The illegal mining under the training area is symbolic that there's crypto mining under the games surface. They're genius devs like that.

That's exactly what I thought too XD

This!

Now this is some 300 IQ move that they've managed to pull off.

They know what they're doing

It's probably there so that the devs can say that they told people that there was mining involved for legal reasons.

My favorite part of all of this is if you scroll back to the update that came out after this video, the single developer actually listened and fixed a ton of the issues pointed out. They also removed the cash shop, so cheers to them for actually trying to make it better. Also, they added 4 more to the length of the characters name (now 20) so you can now properly be thunderhammer!

Good on them, way to go ✌️

Good on them. Not enough to make me play it though. This game straight up rapes my ocular organs

they removed the cash shop because crypto mining earns them enough as it is.

@@zoltanbojan8035 But it’s not a crypto miner. How would they earn anything off of a game that nobody plays? Also, if you had any idea how to check to see if it’s using resources and net connectivity to mine bitcoin, you’d already know it’s not a cryptominer. Go try to be cool by saying shit you don’t understand about something else.

@@jflanagan9696 it was a joke, but go off I guess

I recognise literally every item sprite they use as generic Unity stuff lol. I got given them in my first game dev class. Same with the scroll speed issue; that's Unity's default scroll speed. Fixing it is super easy too, so they just didn't care.

I recognize those sprites from Thea 2 and one or another from SphaxPureBDcraft texture pack from minecraft, so it seems they stole assets from other games and the Unity generic marketplace, very nice indeed

The compass is from skyrim I think.

yup, and there's definitely no "crypto mining," it's just using too much CPU and RAM because he didn't bake lighting and instead placed tons of real lights in one massive scene... He has no idea how to optimize the game.

HELLO DEAR DEVS JUST LIKE YOU I'M A PROCESSIONAL VIDEO GAME MAKER AND I ALSO SEEN ALL THESE STUFF FROM UNITY, UNREAL ENGINE, NVIDIA ETC..

@@thegreatoldone That is actually just Skyrim's compass, holy shit.

"You can unequip your own hand..." That ability might do some of us some good given being stuck at home with internet access.

cyberpunk 2021

Best Dnd spell right there.

@Simple Weirdo lol, MAGICCCCC!! of course.

Garrys Mod does the same

"*THEY*" don't want you to know this, but removing your hand is possible... for a price

Love how these kinda games ALWAYS got a shop and you can bet your ass, even if nothing else works, the shop will.

there were a few that he reviewed where the shop didn't work like digimon world. the game was a fail from first loggin in and seeing spelling mistakes everywhere

@davoodinator The cash shop not working is just a symptom that the game is abandoned or on auto pilot.

If by "works" you mean "charges your card" yep 😂

Grim Dawn actually did the "Manage reputation with enemy factions" thing pretty well. In that game, friendly factions have Respect, which goes up when you do things for them, and higher respect gets you discounts from vendors, new quests, etc. Enemy factions have Infamy, which goes up when you kill them, and higher Infamy causes stronger enemies to spawn, which makes it easier to get better loot.

Grim Dawn is great.

You should really run some of these games from a virtual machine. So you don’t have to worry about installing any malicious software.

Yeah thanks muta

Thanks muta

Ah, my people

Didn't know muta had a second channel

Thanks muta

Hello Josh! On the ability order...Looks like the creator (almost!) used the stat order from the original version of Dungeons and Dragons and the 1st edition of Advanced Dungeons and Dragons (~1980). At that time the order was Strength, Intelligence, Wisdom, Dexterity, Constitution, Charisma. Not sure why they swapped Constitution and Dexterity in this game. The more common order of Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, Charisma began in AD&D version 2.

The original original version does it Strength, Intelligence, Wisdom, Constitution, Dexterity, Charisma. This is because the three available human classes are Fighting-Man, Magic-User, and Cleric, which have prime requisites matching the first three attributes. Constitution is something that affects everyone's hit points, so it comes next, and Dexterity and Charisma are more situationally useful elements so they come later. When the Thief class is added later on, its prime requisite is Dexterity, so that moves up to the "prime requisite" section of the attributes, resulting in the order you've noted.

@@Glazius7 That's actually really interesting to learn.

Whatever people think about Asmon, I hope this boosts your channel so damn hard. Your content is fantastic and deserves to be seen.

Thanks matt. I actually find asmon to be a really grounded and balanced person with a lot of very witty, very accuratr insights into the mmo world.

I need a firewall that will stop non-MMO clips of Asmon from filling half of my youtube sidebar, no matter what I'm watching. No, youtube, I do not want to listen to him rant for 20+ minutes about other peoples' rants about some petty drama.

@@JoshStrifeHayes hes more intelligent than what most people make him off, and I like how sometimes he goes with the flow of it .. once you catch this on him, its impossible to not see it again, and he's good on what he does.

I love how at 24:52 there is a photorealistic high resolution spider with a gorgeous character model and 10 cm behind it is a bag where I can literally count the vertexes.

That's how it goes asset flips, random models and graphics slapped together with no thought for artistic cohesion. I can only suspect that it's going to get worse in the future.

i apologise for being that guy AND over a year late. but it's 'vertices' :)

​@dopesickdog I didn't know that so thanks champ 👍

If i binge watch all of Josh Strife MMO reviews im hoping i can transcend the regular human body i reside in and become an eloquent lord of the words like him.

lol same

Josh's patience with so many of these games is honestly awe-inspiring.

I don't even play MMO's but man I've been addicted to your content recently.

How did you arrive here...?

@@pablocardona9804 his Wizard 101 video got in my recommended, and I use to always see ads for that game as a child and wanted to see what exactly it was like. I ended up loving his content so I’ve just been binging it since.

@@ARisingRed good to hear :)

I don't play MMO games anymore, mostly because I don't think my current comp can handle it, but I used to play a few. I'm glad they weren't anything like most of the games in the Worst MMO Ever series.

@@magnatcleo2043 that’s good! XD I’m not a huge fan of the MMO genre, I’d say the only “MMO” I really play is Destiny, but I have a love-hate relationship with it. I usually like more involved combat or movement mechanics in a game, or a really interesting plot to go through and be done with, but I really like to see the concepts and art design of MMO’s since so many are still really interesting to me. I also love really terrible games, hence why I’m here.

In regards to the character stats and their order. In Advanced D&D (1st ed) that was actually how they were ordered as each stat had a chart that took up half a page. The grouping of the physical/mental stats was actually a change in later editions of D&D.

It's not a team. It's one guy. He used a Unity asset for MMO-building. Others have succeeded doing the same thing, but this guy focused entirely on building the landscape, zero on optimization, and didn't finish the UI, didn't work on the gameplay, and got no feedback before release.

This feels a lot like what Dreamworld could hope to be with a couple more years of development...

A game i recommend you checking out is Sherwood Dungeon. An old browser mmo that I played as a kid. I'd love to see an analysis on it from a professional

Oh boi, that nostalgia shockwave almost knocked me out of my feet!

Glad I’m not the only one who remembers that game! I played it all the time as a kid, I’d love to see him do a proper analysis of it here.

I used to LOVE Sherwood dungeon as a kid, wow! I really would love to see Josh review it today!

i can think of only one reason for a game to use that much memory... if the ENTIRE WORLD is ONE SINGLE AREA. if it uses ONE SINGLE FILE for THE ENTIRE WORLD.

It probably doesn't unload any of the things you can't see.

@@1un4cy it dont unload anything whatsoever.

Also it's a Crypto Miner.

@@Kairos_Akuma High ram alone shouldn't mean that I've used a few different miners and none reach anywhere near that much ram usage, its mainly GPU usage

@@Kairos_Akuma Ram Usage alone doesn't mean a Crypto Miner since Crypto Mining primarily uses your GPU

Props to this masterpiece of a review I genuinely couldn't go 10 seconds without laughing my head off and the scene with the peacekeeper at the end was hilarious keep up the amazing work!

I gave this game 10 more hours. I often play the overly ambitious individual-created MMOs and this game is definitely in the bottom half of those games in fun factor, stability, optimization, and world building / design. I'm going to check out the MUD later on. It has to be better.

Well they got the "dreamscape" part right. This does look like something I would see in my nightmares.

I'm planning to make an MMO as my first game. It's going to be a Crypto Currency mining text based MUD with limited open world player housing, full open world pvp, and procedurally generated dungeons. Edit: And a cash shop. For Lootboxes.

Please take my money.

@@DarthZ01 holy shit, calm down you entrepreneur overlord, leave some money for the rest of us.

Change it to Luteboxes, where you buy boxes that contain lutes.

@@marclytle644 G E N I US

4:08 STR, INT, WIS, CON, DEX, CHA was the order of the ability scores in original D&D. 3rd edition changed the order in order to group the physical and mental stats together. Strength was the primary ability of the Fighting-Man (later Fighter), Intelligence was for Magic-Users (later Wizards), and Wisdom was for Clerics; the three original class of the game. Constitution, Dexterity and Charisma was useful for all classes, but not strictly necessary--sort of like bonus abilities.

How awkward to call a class "Fighting-Man" in a setting with non-human races. I suppose that's why Elf and Dwarf were originally classes.

Man. That plot is straight out of a horror game. Imagine what spiders could build if they could use crafting tools! Or advanced maschinery!

Yeah man, that shit was wierd and scary XD

@@tut-4126 I would totally watch taht movie/ read that book where spiders managed to overthrough humanity because they mastered basic tools. xD

@@sleepydruid100 XD

Cyriak knows what they would build

The spider queen craffted one arrow. He got lucky she didnt craft the bow yet.

That attribute order sounded strangely familiar. I opened my old gaming books and it's almost the order they're written in original D&D. Strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution and charisma. They just have dexterity and constitution backwards. (Yeah took them a while to figure out you could sort them by physical and mental).

They were originally sorted as Primary and Secondary. Fighters needed STR, wizards INT, clerics WIS, and the other three were important to all three, but less so than the main one.

I really, REALLY liked your disclaimer regarding not disrespecting the developer but actually only critizising the product

If it's a one person malware cash-grab with a surface vaguely resembling a game, I don't know why there should be any respect due.

if you check the game theyve actually improved on some things mentioned in the video, you can now walk without using endurance, the bad scroll speed in the menu and rubberbanding

the perspective of judging games harder for having microtransactions is very fair. I just wanted to say I appreciate the respect you clearly give to independant game designers doing their best even when it doesnt turn out great, only judging them more harshly if they deserve it by trying to extort money from whatever playerbase they manage.

4:15 I believe the reason why the attributes are grouped the way they are is because they used to be group that way in older D&D editions. As to why they were grouped like that in that game, it was because Strength Intelligence and Wisdom were sort of primary attributes for the playable classes, that is to say Fighter, Magic-User and Cleric respectively. The other 3 were secondary in importance and all 3 classes benefited from them in some small way. I am not sure if that is reasonable for this game in particular though

This game feels like an intense fever dream.

No, that's Otherland.

i feel sry 4 the guy and the video seems better then the game 4 sure ..

More like a barely interesting daydream.

That’s cuz it is.

More then secondhand lands?

I like that it charges you more the more gold you buy at once lol. Honestly innovative MMO design and an incredible risk they took there.

Man... I've been going through this series looking for "the worst mmo ever" to try and beat as a stream bit, and this seemed like a good contender. But damn finding out it's just malware kills that option.

I freaking lost it at the piccolo chunky skully-tons moment. I’m so happy yt offered me this series to randomly binge out of order. Great series, & unlike most of these games, not actively hostile or opaque to new people. Yay thx.

28:25 "What the hell is up with the light rays coming from the windows at random angles?!" This is something you see fairly often when someone who is new to 3D modeling tries to model game assets, or when you're using a questionable compiler to convert models from the modeling software to the ingame format. To explain it simply, a 3D model is made up of points in 3D space called "vertices". When you connect two vertices together you form an "edge" which is basically just a line between vertices. If you connect 3 or more edges together in a loop you get a "face", which makes up the "skin" of the model that you're creating. Your model is made up of many many of those faces or "polygons". Those lines or "light rays" as you call it happen when you connect too many edges and faces to the same vertice. That's bad. You never want one vertice to have more than 4 edges connected to it. Basically the lighting portion of the 3D software gets confused and doesn't really know what to do, so it produces these lines in the model that mess up it's appearance. It's considered a form of artifact or glitch/bug in the model. If you look closely you can see that each of the "light rays" converge on a nearby point. What you're seeing is the edges creating distortions in the model, and the point of convergence is the single vertice that they're connected to. It's a common mistake with new modelers and it's completely fixable or preventable, and really any serious or even halfway decent hobby modeler learns how to make models without these glitches eventually. They kind of have to or they don't have a job. But since this game is made by a completely new and very inexperienced developer it's not all that surprising to see it.

I love these series.❤ Our host is determined and focused at his task. And we learn so much and are entertained at the same time.☺

The slider in the character creation screen is a default unity asset that comes pre installed with the engine itself. The background of panels is just stretched buttons. And the buttons feel super close to the default Unity stuff, but feel a little bit different.

Josh is releasing content at a "league of angel reward box" pace atm. Great stuff !

Out of all the buttons you’re allowed to rebind in this game, the devs chose WASD lmaoo that’s literally the worst option.

I burst out laughing when you opened the keybinds menu and it was just the WASD keys. Such a perfect visual representation of the amount of effort put into this game.

I actually don't mind having the quests you completed in a list. That way if I miss something from the lore than I like being able to go back read it.

Im pretty active in a lot of game dev circles. Im an aspiring one myself and I live with a professional game dev, and we have lots of friends within those circles. and one thing I see happen a LOT is that there are so many newbie wannabe game devs who only have about a year or less worth of game coding experience who just want to make their own MMOs. for some baffling reason a lot of inexperienced programmers and designers just immediately want to start their first project with an MMO. and often times they come around asking extremely basic questions, and we keep giving them the same answer every time. "if you need to ask basic questions like this and have never completed a game before, then you really shouldn't be attempting to make an MMO". and of course thats not what they wanna hear, so they keep pushing forward until they hit a wall and give up, or release unfinished broken garbage like Dreamscapes Dimensions. for anyone reading this who is interested in making their own MMO, Im really sorry to break this to you, but your over ambitious WoW killer MMO isnt ever going to be good if your entire team consists of just five people or less. the best you can hope for is to make something small and simple like Minecraft or Adventure Quest or Runescape, but anything more advanced than those and you'll be biting off way more than you can chew. get some basic games under your belt first before you attempt anything bigger so you can get a good feel of how things are done. it'll help you get a good idea of scope, and know what your limits are.

After watching your videos I've gained a better appreciation for games that do it right, and a higher sensitivity to games that do it wrong. Now whatever game I'm playing I notice "Hey, they decided to this... which isn't that optimized... or it bugs, or it looks weird" To the bright side of this, I can now, if I give a review, give more positive notes on minor details. All in all I think I can appreciate games better...

This just looks like an asset flip to me, would explain the inconsistency in art style, why the "procedurally generated" dungeon is the way it is and why there's no optimisation to speak of. I doubt this was the result of someone's passion.

I think the high CPU and RAM is because the game is probably loading every asset at once. Prime example of this is that you can see the world below the character creation screen. Also when increasing the graphics the RAM usage shoots up. More quality = bigger file size = more RAM usage where its loading everything. Steam is generally pretty good at removing malware and crypto mining games so this is the only thing I can think of to defend the high usage. Or it could be a crypto but I would like to think its just loading files. RAM disk best disk

"You can unequip your own hand" I'm glad to see devs being inclusive with people who lost an arm and could do that with a fake one. You might even use it as a club for a bit

The way you put it makes it sound like an alternate universe Sir Daniel Fortesque who groomed children.

As a game developer that makes RPGs, I really appreciate your intro disclaimer. It would be dandy if more folk thought along those lines

Hey, don't hate the devs, hate the publishers/investors. Neither know how much time y'all put into your work.

@@T0asty- pretty sure this game is a solo team

and yet you would develop a crypto mining program with a shell of a game on top for money.. no scruples.

@@xenxander wh..

Love how this game was a soullessly developed crypto miner and it still looks better than Facebook's VR Metaverse.

Increasing the graphics increases your ram usage, makes me think this is not just a crypto miner, it also loads all the textures and other assets at once and keeps them in the memory.

That one dislike is Archeage, it tried so hard to be the worst one and these guys came to ruin everything.

i tried ArcheAge for a while, but the forced-PVP aspect in higher-level areas put me off. i HATE that. it's MADE for "griefing". ArcheAge also has a silly crafting system that uses ENERGY. one-point-per minute energy. ONLY GAINED WHEN ONLINE UNLESS YOU PAY THE MONTHLY FEE FOR PREMIUM. AND it takes energy to open "money pouch" items dropped by enemies! i had a HUNDRED i could not open for lack of energy!

I don't understand how ArcheAge is even remotely comparable to any of these meme-tier pieces of garbage. The game has problems (mostly to do with its insistence on combining a highly linearized gearing and leveling system with open world PvP, but the energy system isn't too great either) but it tries to do a lot of small things right, honestly. Things like the ability to actually sit in chairs or light/snuff lights, the soundtrack, the music system, several of the environments, the approach to the player's place in the world's lore, player territory sieges that actually matter, the skill systems... Overall I'd say it's an almost incredible game made mediocre by a few critical decisions being made deadly wrong, not a game competing for being the worst on the market.

I loved archeage on launch. On launch. The rest sucked. Haha

@@Ithirahad It's less the quality of the game's framework and moreso the abysmal way in which the publishers have handled it. Fucking up one of the most promising MMOs in years twice in a row isn't something you live down.

Archeage could have been a wonderful game with a few smarter decisions around PvP and Land Owning. And Pay to Win. I should know, I was there during the beta/launch madness. Quit a few months later for good though.

The skeletons having a tracked reputation was a nice touch though, reminds me of the Bloodsail Buccaneers rep in WoW

Yeah, I actually liked that, even if it does nothing is fun to be a bad person to the skeletons

I mean, the combat makes perfect sense for a MUD. The 4 second timer between attacks is probably their "fix" for turn-based combat. So if this is just their MUD with a 3D skin thrown on top … yeah. That would also explain the dungeon (well, the layout of it, not why it randomly teleports you).

Thank you Josh for saving our PCs from being killed by this game using it for mining. This game hasn't been tested at all it looks like. Alpha and most likely abandoned by the Devs

28:30 That's phong shading. It creates a gradiend to smooth out the lighting around hard edges and we've been using it for at least 20 years. The problem is the game is trying to smooth ALL edges and you're seeing the triangles where this goes wrong. It's just how phong works and totally normal. The fix would be simple: limit the phong angle, so you actually get some hard edges. You learn that in the first few hours of 3D modelling and it's nothing more than entering a numeric value.

Love how grumpy you got on this one! Just the absolute passion here is sublime

After watching this all I have to say is, thank you for your sacrifices lmfao enjoyed it man love the worst mmo videos

I always assumed it ran so heavy cause everything was always loaded in, like it was a singular level that was over it's object limit but still forced to load it all at all times.

I'm pretty sure that the lanterns in the starting area, as well as the compass are assets from Skyrim. Not sure if its from the vanilla version or Skyrim mods, but I'm certain that they are flipped assests. Anyways, love your content, I've been binging your worst mmo series and I've loved every video so far!

I've been watching all of these videos as I grind out Grand Chase Classic, an MMO you should definitely do a video on. This Wednesday (May 24th, 2023) they will be releasing an update making the new player experience much quicker, easier, and with more loot making it the perfect time to check it out! Elsword was technically a sequel to Grand Chase, but I never personally got into it. It would blow my mind to see this game get some attention! I even named my son after one of the main characters!

I dont think that's how child's first MMO would come up. This seems like they were trying to enhance the MUD experience rather than make something recognizable as modern MMO.

I think they should have chosen tab target w/ auto attack for combat And probably change the common endurance/ mvpoint usage system (for movement and siills but not attack) common in MUD type of game Though i havent played the MUD game that its based on , it looks like it using the same mechanic of it For the resources i dont know how that can be feels like the server is running locally plus rendering the game

Your videos are getting better, and better. Great job Josh!

Just discovered your channel & I have to say I'm enjoying the content it has already saved me from paying for a couple of MMO's so well done, got yourself a sub :)

Regarding the heavy resource use, my first thought is just that it's extremely poorly optimized because it screams Yandere Simulator levels of performance and if this is a team's first "production ready" game and they are using something like Unity without understanding how it works under the hood (not disparaging them or anything because I know nothing as well). If it were a miner, a smarter implementation would be to promote leaving the game on (or install something that runs even when the game is closed) and then run in the background once you leave the keyboard alone for a certain amount of time

Based on the CPU demand I think it might be that the game is using software rendering like old 90s games before GPUs took off. Only way I could explain it needing so much CPU power as even mining on my CPU doesn't use that much RAM.

The stamina thing reminds of an Epic NPC Man sketch about pay-to-win MMOs where the final punchline was the player couldn't move because they'd run out of steps, and had to purchase more from the shop. I remember thinking at the time that it was funny, but so ridiculous that it could never happen in a real game.

The "attacking costs stamina but attacks take stamina" system is one of the worst ideas ever. Sadly, Arcanum had this too.

Josh, do Tibia next, hear me on this one: I know you often mention it as classic game, a pioneer in certain aspects, but in my opinion the game is a shell of what it used to be. While it has grown into a fan-favorite of a very niche community, it is, without a doubt, a microtransaction hellhole. This, in turn, has attracted masses of ill-intentioned players, many of which operate in what I would describe as cartels, with a lot of real life money involved. It is my childhood mmorpg, and it wrecks my heart to see it as it is now. It had potential to grow into something special, but it's been ruined and it's only getting worse. I'd love to hear your analysis on the game

OMG yes my little sister and I loved that game as kids but it has become like u said a shell of its former self

let see it on future video. look interesting topic.

Still love it

I figured Old School Runescape was also like this, recalling the numerous PvP & Luring clans in the wilderness alongside the countless malicious groups behind the 'Sand Casino' that was once formerly known as the Duel Arena a long time ago, not to mention the rampant scamming and hacking going on behind the scenes.

nah tibia was always trash, losing 10%( or 20% i dont remenber, but either way was awefull) of your total exp points and skill point AND 1 random item is just freaking BRUTAL. i died 4 times in a roll while lv up skills, it setted me back 3 month of progress and i never come back to it. and i'm still in rage about it 17 years later.

The compass at the top is practically identical to the compass in Skyrim! Seriously one of those "You can copy my homework but change it a little so we don't get in trouble" situations

I really like the graphics. Thanks for playing this so I can see it without having to suffer through it.

That is why MUD were great. They didn't had any music or graphic - only text so everything you were reading was happening in your mind in a super spectacular way and you could play your own music during playing MUD.

8:17 hold up, that Cure Light Wounds icon is the same icon used in RPG Duels Text Adventure for several healing abilities - for example, Cathy the Kitty's 9 Lives in the critter duels mode

You can buy icon packs. A lot of indie devs do that.

I'm assuming somebody already mentioned this before now, but the reason they use that order of stats is that that was how the stats were arrayed in Basic D&D, way way way back in the 70's. It wasn't until AD&D that they went into the physical/mental split.

Seeing the first person walk animation with the arms crossing the screen, I feel like the whole animation is like that purple hulk movie mocap

That’s him

@Anna333 There is but one Amazing Bulk. Please afford him the amazing respect he deserves.

I know exactly what you're talking about and I hate it. Hahaha

Well it aint barney the purple dinosaur!

Dude, I thought the exact same lol

"you should always be able to walk and it should restore stamina" the funny thing, this is what made humans human, the ability to seat and cool while moving, which made the endurance or persistence hunting possible, and which allowed humans to hunt almost any animals, which lead to the increased brain and all the other fun human specialty.

Ah yes, my favorite part of any MMO -- rereading completed quest text.

Pretty bold of you to keep playing after all the warnings, and pretty noble to try and not diminish the developers, not only they put a cash shop but they also are doing some fuckery with your computer, that'd be enough for me

Honestly, "Spider Queen wants to learn crafting" seems like a cutesy quest. Doesn't match the tone of the game in general, but I like that.

This feels like a game you'd be forced to endlessly play if you ended up in hell.

As an MMO player seeing this game hurt me in a deeper level than I thought it would. Keep it up! You should definitely cover Metin2. I used to play it a lot back in 2010 and it was actually really popular for some time.

Ou yes I remember that game. It was very popular at my school around the same time as Club Penguin. Really good times

It was popular because of the combat system, I bet. Anything with good combat gets a good playerbase because it's better than the shitscape that is WoW.

I played it once because a friend wouldn't shut up about it. It was shittier than all the games I played at the time. Empty world, ugly graphics, basically no plot. I seriously don't understand what she liked about it so much, it was no Gothic, it played about as well as a toaster

DreamScapes uses the uMMORPG version 1 addon for Unity. It's a highly customized version of it though. The reason you can't jump or fall off ledges is because movement is based on Unity's NavMesh agent which must be kept on the NavMesh. The uMMORPG Component edition uses true Physics based Movement so you can jump, swim, fall of ledges, all the things you would expect. Also yes the reason for the high memory consumption is because everything is loaded at the start of the game. There is no terrain paging or anything.

A unique blend of honesty and sarcasm. STEAM needs a review rating of DISGUSTING RIP OFF! You can bet the positive reviews you see on games like this are made by the dev's friends or the dev's themselves.

I checked the Steam page. Completing the tutorial is listed as a feature of the game. I just want everyone to know that.

for the building with weird shading, it looks like a model with a single smoothing group and no normal maps, or something similar, so whatever asset pack they downloaded was likely missing that and they had no idea how to fix it and decided to use it even though it looks fucked up

You know the game is good when you have to look at the chat window to tell you're in combat.

You and KiraTV are by far the best mmo channels right now. You two are just geniune, no bs attatched. Also you both are skilled at respectfully dismantling a game while never delving into ignorance or hating.... But yall do spank some games from time to time its great.

Kira is so tiring to watch though

@@Magmagan I do like him most of the time, but he definitely gives off the vibes of that one dude at a party who is convinced they're the smartest guy in the room who is so very above it all and will make sure you know it. Even if you've never met before that moment.

Something about that Kira guy ticks me off. I don't know what, but I can't stomach the way he speaks.

@@Noordledoordle Hes really not like that though, you may get the impression but when you listen to him, hes quite fair and honest

@@jonathansoko1085 That's fair. I do want to add, I have watched a lot of his content and I do try and give him the engagement and clicks and all of that. And I don't doubt his honesty, just his general vibe. That said, he is absolutely in his element when he's doing takedowns of Kickstarter scams, and it shows. Those are the most fun to watch.

"Why are the lizards deformed" I never thought Id ever hear those words in a review, or ever. For some reason that line cracked me up. Ive had a bad week and that made me laugh, thank you Josh.

i love watching the opening monologue because i get to see Josh's indomitus boxset... the emperor protects!

I decided to try this game. Nothing has changed in the 1+ months since this video was put up. And in the Early Access part they state that they want to be out of early access within a year. It went into EA in Jan 2021. So full game release by Jan 2022. Lets see how that works out for him.

I think the lag and high PC usage is because those are Unity assets with lots of polygons that are not optimized by the devs so maybe that's one of the reasons it is lagging hard.

@Josh Strife Hayes, I would suggest installing a Virtual Machine for games that need you to disable your antivirus like that to mitigate the potential security risks (may not just be a bitcoin miner and especially if you download outside of Steam) You will see a performance hit and it may be too choppy depending on your hardware but just so you know the option exists if you have a decent CPU.

I was so ready for the characters name to be "Chad Thundercock".

He probably didn't do it since he wanted to keep the video monetized.

omg it would even fit in the character length..

That's what the name should have been. But when it wasn't, it was a harsh reminder that this channel, like many that the recommendation algorithms promote, is yet another YouTube channel that's a commercial venture.

Or Geopounder xD

@@Eincrou whoa! A man trying to make a living from something that he puts a lot of hard work and time into! How dare he!

I can't stop laughing. 😂 Man this is entertaining. Thanks for you taking your time to play and review this game.

I think the secret mining operation at the last level is a hint of what this game is doing to your PC while it is running lol

3.5 hours ? this man has some amazing patience!

The stamina fiasco at the end had me in tears.

The post enlightenment building. The light coming from the windows are in fact issues with the normals/polygons on the model. It is the perfect indicator that whoever made that has no idea how they make models. You would be able to see that in the 3D software, and then again when it is added and textured, so I'm sort of amazed by the lack of QA, haha

We have DreamScape Dimensions coming up on our list of games to check out. I'll see what the game files are doing re: the CPU, GPU & RAM. Like you said, it seems way too high to just be an issue of it being poorly optimized.

@@user-gf5lq2pe3q If I end up hacked, it'll give me something to do that's probably more entertaining than the game. Perhaps this isn't an MMO but a program for learning how to troubleshoot PC issues?

I once wrote a 3D browser animation that almost set my laptop on fire simply by not being frame-capped*. Trust me, you can ALWAYS write things poorly enough to use all resources. Load entire map/all assets in at once is all that's required, more often than not. *That was in second year of university, graphics course, quite a few years ago.

@@sinine1100 ah, so your the guy responsible for the gandalf meme?

I think the game is made in Unity, and if so then the game will use as many resources as it possibly can, if a targeted FPS has not been set. (The developer sets a targeted FPS, lets say 90, and when the game reaches 90 FPS it will stop attempting to achieve higher fps, lowering the amount of resources it uses.)

The high memory usage is most likely the engine loading all assets and keeping them loaded, while also not supporting occlusion culling, which means it's keeping everything around you that your camera doesn't see rendered and in-memory. These are generally longer-term performance tuning features that are provided by engines, and not necessarily something you'd throw in the engine in the first iteration. Based on everything I can tell, this is a custom game engine. I wouldn't assume that the performance is based on mining, it's probably just a poorly optimized engine. The fact that the dev team went from creating and managing a long-standing Text-Based MUD, to writing their own engine (again, I'm assuming) and getting this far with it is amazing. Even better is that this game, according to the game's forums, still gets updates WEEKLY!. I don't think Josh gave this game a fair shake. He's usually much more understanding and reasonable regarding smaller dev teams and the complexities of creating an MMO. While it will probably forever remain a bad game, the amount of progress that the dev team has made on what could be chalked up to a hobby project is a fair bit, I'd say. Josh - if you read this, you should do an update and try speaking with the devs on a call and seeing what's-what. My sneaking suspicision is that they're not trying to be malicious.

Tbh if it's made by one person, this is actually insanely good! Given a bit more polish I think it could be great! I would definitely play it

No it sucks.