Witcher 3 on THIS?!? - OneXPlayer Mini

Sargon
Sargon

8:17 This blurriness is mainly Microsoft's fault. Go to the game's executable and then open properties. Disable full screen optimization and then you'll find that the game is no longer blurry, even in full screen mode. In older versions of Windows 10, there was a global setting for that, but Microsoft in its infinite wisdom, decided to scrap it in newer versions and now you have to do it one executable at a time lol.

Vor 3 Monate
Lee Griffiths
Lee Griffiths

@Moskeeto I just couldn't exist exclusively in the Steam ecosystem. I'd strip out my Steam purchases from the client and uninstall it in a heartbeat if it were possible.

Vor 3 Monate
Moskeeto
Moskeeto

@MultiWirth SteamOS is based on Arch and uses Proton to play Windows games. Proton is getting better and better all the time as Valve works on improving it. The Steam Deck will only help speed up development of Proton as well as encourage developers to take it into account to avoid any potential issues with certain middleware that heavily relies on Windows.

Vor 3 Monate
MultiWirth
MultiWirth

@Moskeeto Gaming on Linux... oh well. SteamOS is based on debian so i don´t think SteamOS 3.0 will be any better. It´s the game´s site of things that needs better support.

Vor 3 Monate
ZimM
ZimM

@Sargon Thank you. This is interesting. However, I'm still puzzled what exactly is causing the bluriness... For bluriness to occur, the game must render in resolution other than the native resolution of the screen. But on the video you linked, resolution stays at 1280x800. You mention rotated display is the issue, but if I rotate my PC monitor, I don't see the bluriness... This is definitely some kind of software problem, but which side is it really - Windows, drivers, the game? Assuming that ALL games can't be badly written, and that Windows doesn't have this behavior on any other kind of devices, I'd assume it's an issue with the drivers?

Vor 3 Monate
Sargon
Sargon

@ZimM Again, you are selling me a "feature" which games were already providing. If someone wanted easy alt tabbing experience, they had borderless Window for that. For people who did not want any distractions, they had exclusive fullscreen with the added benefit of a slight performance boost. Then Microsoft barges in and removes exclusive fullscreen, because they wanted to spoon-feed notifications with less effort. Focus assist doesn't always disable all notifications, especially if Windows deems them "critical". Yes notifications always existed, but they weren't centralised or in your face until Windows 8. You can dismiss the performance difference, but the video and my comment are about HANDHELD gaming PCs with integrated graphics. They need every frame they can get! *Proof of blurriness? Oh now I get it... You don't actually own a handheld gaming PC do you?* Otherwise you wouldn't be arguing with me about this. Most gaming handheld PCs have a resolution of 720p or 768p or 800p. They are not gonna use scaling above 100%, or hardly anything would fit onto the screen. I own two handheld gaming devices, BOTH experience this issue. The appropriate forums and discord servers are FILLED with these topics. Linus mentions it in this video. The fix is always the same: Use Windowed mode, or disable full screen optimizations if you want to use exclusive fullscreen. Are you saying we are all delusional? There are members of the community literally making scripts that go through a Steam Directory and disable this for all executables. Everyone with a Handheld gaming PC is aware of this. No game was made with a handheld gaming PC is mind, nor did developers foresee that Microsoft would destroy exclusive fullscreen one day. This is NOT a developer's fault. This is all Microsoft's fault for not testing this dumb feature of theirs on handheld PCs with portrait displays being used in landscape mode. Some older games do not even have Windowed mode or borderless window, so disabling fullscreen optimizations is the ONLY fix for the bluriness. What's mostly infuriating is that: 1) We already had borderless Window in modern games for easy alt tabbing. 2) We used to have a global setting for fulslcreen optimizations, now we do not. How long before they remove the ability to disable this entirely? Now I know that you won't buy a device just to verify any of this, and you will not believe a word that I'm saying, so here, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oAGalQvTjk or visit any handheld gaming PC forum. Also stop starting your arguments with "I'm a game developer" with the intention to immediately invalidate everyone else. You're not the only one IT-literate.

Vor 3 Monate
Mattuk
Mattuk

Aya Neo having quick access buttons like esc, windows, task manager and keyboard overlay saves a lot of frustrations especially with emulators.

Vor 3 Monate
Eddie P
Eddie P

Windows has touch screen gestures for all of this

Vor 3 Monate
ALEX TECHTUR
ALEX TECHTUR

Really? No way ! How come that onex don't have it?

Vor 3 Monate
Realities in the Raw
Realities in the Raw

@Paul that's a problem with the emulator, not the device tho, right?

Vor 3 Monate
Nine Zero
Nine Zero

@O K O K

Vor 3 Monate
O K
O K

Report spammers please

Vor 3 Monate
shmoogit
shmoogit

i think the steam deck is gonna be the best bang for your buck and best price to performance out of all handheld pc's, especially considering RDNA2 and a custom skin of arch

Vor 3 Monate
shmoogit
shmoogit

@Derek Furst like i told that other guy, yes i know, i just didnt want to get it wrong

Vor 3 Monate
Tyler L
Tyler L

Probably yeah, I think it's one of, if not the only sub $1000 handheld I think. Haven't done too much research so idk

Vor 3 Monate
Derek Furst
Derek Furst

Calling steamos a skin of arch is reductive. Is Ubuntu just a skin of Debian?

Vor 3 Monate
SoKool
SoKool

@Montisaquadeis Yeah, I forgot to mention that the Steam Deck's storage can expanded through MicroSD or the NVME slot.

Vor 3 Monate
Montisaquadeis
Montisaquadeis

@SoKool 64GB is plenty for what I plan on doing with the Steam Deck AKA emulators mainly and those don't take up much space its all the roms/isos that do and those can easily reside on an sd card.

Vor 3 Monate
J. Francis Ward
J. Francis Ward

Steam Deck is gonna make so much content for LTT

Vor 3 Monate
TOPGEARS
TOPGEARS

@Brett Cooper me too, did you do it from steam?

Vor 3 Monate
Crazylaze98
Crazylaze98

@GHOST LEGIT You make battleye and EAC developers feel sad

Vor 3 Monate
Casual Veemo
Casual Veemo

@GHOST LEGIT stop trolling and get a life

Vor 3 Monate
Brett Cooper
Brett Cooper

Already have mine pre ordered for purchase 🍻

Vor 3 Monate
Vrishank
Vrishank

Seems to be quite good but the price is the only problem here. Definitely can’t compete with things like the steam deck in-terms of value

Vor 3 Monate
Ian B.
Ian B.

@lanzo86 agreed!, and if the Steamdeck meets or exceeds expectations, you can bet there will be models releasing in the future that will compete heavily with power of GPD, AYA, ONEX, and price, which will definitely kill at least one or 2 of these competitors in the near future. That's why these competitors are marketing so hard before the Steamdeck releases, because u think they know there in trouble once it does.

Vor 3 Monate
Ian B.
Ian B.

@Sprits FalNot limited at all You can dual boot windows. and from the limited time I seen it running, it was running GamePass easily on medium/High settings.

Vor 3 Monate
RedEnvelopeMedia
RedEnvelopeMedia

You might as well buy a good gaming desktop with that money and play with better performance and comfort. Extra performance is not worth an extra 1,000 dollars especially compared to the switch. And idk about anyone else but does anyone have a hard time playing long sessions on a hand helds? Like these things arent light like phones or DSs and youre focusing your vision on a small screen and playing on a wide controller it really strains after a while. If you really want to have long gaming sessions at a cafe or something why arent you on a laptop with a wider screen,keyboard mouse, and cheaper even?

Vor 3 Monate
Zhenyu Cai
Zhenyu Cai

@Peel Fresh Vita 3 Yeah that's why I found it funny when people compared leagues final prize pool vs Dota2. Like league players actually get paid whether they win or not.

Vor 3 Monate
Peel Fresh Vita 3
Peel Fresh Vita 3

It's made by Valve. There's only 1 problem with it. Dedication for update. Hope it's not just 1 time, to profit, then boom, vanish. Example. Dota 2. They hype it with huge prize pool for The International. Instead, if the money was better distributed for all tier tournament just to help pro players to keep food on their tab, in all levels, maybe they can play better and consistent. But, they made it like it'a a rat race. And this year, no Major at all. Actually, life or anything doesn't have to be like rat race. But, sometimes, corporations just wanna make it so as publicity stunt, to quickly gather attention instead of slowly building it up, because shareholders is pressing for their profit, and once profit, they wanna out.

Vor 3 Monate
Pongporn Pawanawichien
Pongporn Pawanawichien

For the blurry display, you need to disable "fullscreen optimization" in windows

Vor 3 Monate
Trexosaurustron
Trexosaurustron

Yeah it's a small hassle but pretty straightforward once you know.

Vor 3 Monate
EZG
EZG

Was just about to post this.

Vor 3 Monate
Cartercus
Cartercus

I love the idea of grips being made this large as standard. I’ve never liked the size of a joy con. I feel company’s should just expand the batteries into the space of the grips to aid ergonomics and battery life.

Vor 3 Monate
Jonathan H
Jonathan H

You can literally buy a $10-$20 grip, have great ergo’s, and use the $1000 you didn’t spend on this to go on holiday

Vor 3 Monate
Mahesh Thapa
Mahesh Thapa

The battery "grip" will get hotter making it uncomfortable for gaming in my opinion

Vor 3 Monate
High Low
High Low

RayRay RayRayRay .....people get sweat on their hands????

Vor 3 Monate
First Name Last Name
First Name Last Name

Binbok to the rescue.

Vor 3 Monate
CallMeL
CallMeL

I would argue that I would rather have grip rails. Much easier to swap sizes based on the region (much smaller hands in China/Japan). I even would wish for a standardized grip rail system where you could get 3rd party or even 3d print your grips.

Vor 3 Monate
Just Some Person
Just Some Person

This is what concerns me about Intel's upcoming discreet GPUs: *the drivers* !!! Ooof. Intel is really going to have to step up their game. They are *not* doing themselves any service by leaving their integrated graphics drivers so shoddy this close to allegedly gameable DGPU launch. Their graphics drivers have always been bad, and continue to be bad. Why would I want to trust them now?

Vor 3 Monate
Telogor
Telogor

discrete*

Vor 3 Monate
LMacNeill
LMacNeill

I do hope that Intel releasing stand-alone graphics cards will help them figure out driver issues in their on-board GPUs. That's really a limitation that they need to overcome. It's not like Iris Xe graphics are just a month or two old. It's been about a year, y'all. Time to get your sh*t together.

Vor 3 Monate
Pl4yerN
Pl4yerN

The drivers are stable for their older iGPUs, but obviously with the downside of those GPUs being garbage.

Vor 3 Monate
Gabriel Bella
Gabriel Bella

Clicked so fast the moment I read “Witcher 3”

Vor 3 Monate
جيرالت
جيرالت

+1

Vor 2 Monate
Yash Pal Singh
Yash Pal Singh

Yeah

Vor 3 Monate
Mitch James
Mitch James

@AFC Steve runs much better now with the latest patch.

Vor 3 Monate
Mitch James
Mitch James

@Gabriel Bella still good for an underclocked SOC from 2015.

Vor 3 Monate
AFC Steve
AFC Steve

@Mitch James Yeah... Like shit.

Vor 3 Monate
Joseph Cohen
Joseph Cohen

I have the GPD Win Max and the Aya Neo. The whole reason I ended up getting the Neo was that AMD processor. Intel's driver issues just caused so many problems I was like to hell with this. I travel for work so this class of device gets a good amount of use and I kinda needed it to just work, and AMD is good at that, also those load in issues with intel is freaking real and have existed for a while at this point.

Vor 3 Monate
Ace
Ace

@Seek why do EA and Activision Blizzard deserve our hard earned cash? Rockstar sure, maybe. What about all the hard working devs that hack consoles and give us emus? Or hack games for those that can't afford them? Don't they deserve some love? Morals are a two-way street, pal. Game publishers only care about money. They don't care about you or the game. At least pirates do. Hell, publishers have been making our gaming experience unnecessarily increasingly annoying over the years (online only, no Lan, no mods, etc) for the sole purpose of guaranteeing their profits. Which they're already making tons of anyway. So put down your suit of armor before going to war for the devil.

Vor 3 Monate
Seek
Seek

@Frank Wang I support and agree with you that we gamers should have morals and be above piracy. If you can afford to buy games than you should if you have time to play. Steam also makes it a lot easier to afford games with their sales.

Vor 3 Monate
Frank Wang
Frank Wang

That was what GPD wrote in their article warning against steam deck, not what I thought.

Vor 3 Monate
Super Neenjaa
Super Neenjaa

@Frank Wang you think, we can't use linux to play pirated games? It's sometimes even less problematic in Linux. In windows win defender try to delete the game executable as soon as you launch the game. Linux have no such things.

Vor 3 Monate
Mephiplays
Mephiplays

I think the biggest point in Valves favor with the steam deck will be linux. The (theoretically) lower overhead should help performance wise quite a bit. Also the price of about half, even on the top spec model...

Vor 3 Monate
The Cave Dweller
The Cave Dweller

@Game Over I was just as surprised about it as you, trust me, eventually I was using fsck almost after every system boot, I tried with many distributions, and actually got quite surprised when I saw that btrfs solved my issue, I'm still not sure about what happened, about the snapshots scripts and stuff, I just handle them manually with timeshift every once in a while.

Vor 3 Monate
Game Over
Game Over

@The Cave Dweller never had issues like you had... like, ever it sounds insanely unlikely to happen on a regular basis, something else probably related to this problem, ext4 isn't a thing that breaks and randomly loses data without a notice. It even won't let you mount filesystem until you repair it with fsck (recovering from journal, optimising nodes, etc) I gave up on btrfs because it's such a chore to maintain automatic snapshots + backups of those snapshots (snapper, custom scripts, whatever, all of this is not easy and fragile) And the fact that i never had issues with ext4 even with lvm across two disks (striped) for more than a year on laptop... after that i didn't feel like manintaining btrfs anymore and switched back to ext4

Vor 3 Monate
The Cave Dweller
The Cave Dweller

@Game Over  Mine required the filesystem to be repaired extremely quite often for some reason, just after regular system shutdowns on any distro I tried, on both of my shitty cheap adata drives (may have to do with that), other times grub files simply vanished, I eventually gave up, and before using windows I gave btrfs a chance, it has never really failed me, and the snapshots always save me if any bleeding edge update screws something up. I can't say anything about swap on multiple disks tho.

Vor 3 Monate
Game Over
Game Over

@The Cave Dweller never had any issues with ext, like ever (had crappy cheap 120 gb kingdian ssd for 2 years and now using samsung evo 970 tb ssd, both were system one. i was saved it's filesystem couple of times when i resized it incorrectly (forgot to add one more number), it still managed to be prefectly functional (and with all files) after resizing back to original size Any journaling filesystem (like ext) can recover from bad and sudden shutdown, something really nasty should happen to not be able to recover from journals. Btrfs on the other hand is waay to big of a hussle to maintain if you want to utilize it's snapshots, plus it isn't robust like ext4 (swap on multiple disks with btrfs? forget about it)

Vor 3 Monate
The Cave Dweller
The Cave Dweller

@Game Over True, NTFS is pure garbage, but on my experience EXT4 also has some issues on SSD, mine got corrupt a few times using it, few of them after some system updates, and other times after electricity shutdowns (those where quite expected). I normally prefer using BTRFS on them, that thing seems to be bulletproof on my devices atm, and the snapshots are fantastic.

Vor 3 Monate
Xplosio
Xplosio

Hard to get excited about this when Ryzen RDNA APUs are coming, doubling the performance of Intel's Xe Graphics

Vor 3 Monate
Nicholas Kennedy
Nicholas Kennedy

@Tech guy Google "Official AMD Ryzen 6000 benchmark results". Notebookcheck include the graphics highlighting the difference. Take them with a grain of salt but the Ryzen 6000 series WILL be significantly faster, we just have to wait for the real world tests for actual numbers.

Vor 3 Monate
Tech guy
Tech guy

Where do you get this statistic?

Vor 3 Monate
Little Angel
Little Angel

Those scaling issues been there since Intel removed custom resolutions for internal displays from their drivers. They will deny it was ever possible to make custom resolutions for internal displays.

Vor 3 Monate
rdmendezr
rdmendezr

Damn, until last year I never knew how garbage Intel drivers were but nowadays it's all issues I see and Intel seems to be worse than AMD when it comes to drivers which is crazy to think about. What the hell is Intel's driver team doing?

Vor 3 Monate
Super Neenjaa
Super Neenjaa

They always have been crappy. People didn't notice it because those iGPUs were too weak to play anything serious and handled desktop use cases fine.

Vor 3 Monate
ahloke cafe
ahloke cafe

I owned Onexplayer bcuz of this channel and it can't ever run so many games like GOTG, FH5, etc due to Intel lack of support in updating its drivers. Waste of our money...

Vor 3 Monate
Snoopy4156
Snoopy4156

Amd here been able to run almost all tittles. I switch over to amd after the release of the 5950x everything had to be amd 🤣frankly I will never go back to Intel my Aya neo sold it

Vor 5 Tage
Vendoshi
Vendoshi

@Adrian Daugdaug I have amd and intel buddy and intel just doesn’t have enough support

Vor 3 Monate
Tech guy
Tech guy

@Adrian Daugdaug in real world usage they're not in my experience with the Win 3.

Vor 3 Monate
Vendoshi
Vendoshi

@Tech guy I have aya neo and one x mini and I know it does it runs good

Vor 3 Monate
Mr도디
Mr도디

I always wonder for devices like this if it would be beneficial to have a windows UI like we had in 8 / 8.1 . I know almost anyone hated it with the Live-Tiles.. that was on a full desktop, this is basically a handheld so having big button / tiles for your programs instead of searching and stuff within steam or so, might be a lot more userfriendly

Vor 3 Monate
First Name Last Name
First Name Last Name

A few things 1. Windows 10 can have a full screen start menu 2. Windows 8 was really good on tablets but not good on anything with mouse and keyboard as the primary input. 3. I prefer regular mode but tablet mode dose exist in win 10 and it may be better for a device like this.

Vor 3 Monate
Shayan Shadow
Shayan Shadow

I think there is a tablet mode in windows that might fix the problem

Vor 3 Monate
Tacoh
Tacoh

Considering Windows 8 was pretty much developed to work on touchscreens/tablets...you might be onto something there.

Vor 3 Monate
Macho Man
Macho Man

Extra type C port adds redundancy too. Arguably extending the product life too since wear and tear port failure is a thing.

Vor 3 Monate
Wei Min Chan
Wei Min Chan

Doom Eternal WILL run with the latest drivers. The problem is that the drivers on Windows Updates don't update as quick... you'll have to manually download it from Intel and it will work. As of the time of posting I've used the Dec 2021 driver and Doom Eternal will run.. Playing it? Well.. not really good...

Vor 3 Monate
Lp
Lp

@Wei Min Chan A couple days later I tried it again and I*think* it succeeded tbh but yeah apparently that's a thing.. @o zzun will take a look on my optional updates and do that probably, cheers! I don't think much harm can come by disabling that.

Vor 3 Monate
Wei Min Chan
Wei Min Chan

@Lp That's EXACTLY what happens to me!!!! So I turned on the group policy to not auto update drivers to prevent it from doing that!

Vor 3 Monate
o zzun
o zzun

@Lp you must go to the device manager choose the display driver and in the driver properties choose the option to revert to the previous driver and with that go back to the latest version you installed then in Windows updates disable optional updates

Vor 3 Monate
Lp
Lp

'windows updates don't update as quick' - The other day I tried installing updated amd drivers and at the end it said well we updated but windows reverted the driver xD

Vor 3 Monate
Pieter Rossouw
Pieter Rossouw

If I bought a device like this, I'd be interested in using it with Parsec or Steam Link or something to stream games off my gaming PC. It'd be interesting to see the network and decode latency as well as full end-to-end input lag.

Vor 3 Monate
Pieter Rossouw
Pieter Rossouw

@MindBlowerWTF certainly not dedicated to doing only that, obviously. It's a PC after all so there's many use cases - I just think the form factor makes more sense for in-home streaming than e.g. a laptop. I'd want to know how long the battery would last for such a task. You can already do this with Android tablets and I've played mainly Red Dead Redemption 2 using Parsec. The on-device controls might make for a better experience.

Vor 3 Monate
MindBlowerWTF
MindBlowerWTF

1200USD or something to stream games to it?

Vor 3 Monate
Lightning Gamer
Lightning Gamer

I’m super curious about what having the Steam Deck as an option going to do for this kind of market. Where does it land in terms of performance for that price? Only time will tell. I’m curious though. I can’t wait for the reviews and see if I should pick one up when they’re available.

Vor 3 Monate
MegaManNeo
MegaManNeo

I love the AyaNeo, also because it is using AMD. Then again, the One X gives you the benefit of eGPUs probably.

Vor 3 Monate
hivetyrant7
hivetyrant7

There are OXP's with AMD chips as well now. So you can have both.

Vor 3 Monate
Phuqr
Phuqr

Thanks for checking how dim it can go. I am a dark room viewer. Honestly a TV setup guide for no/low light rooms while maintaining color accuracy would be great

Vor 3 Monate
MrSuperduper5000
MrSuperduper5000

That is a sweet device, we'll have to see what kind of performance and more importantly availability the steam deck has. Even the top of the line one is half the price of this bad boy. Only time will tell.

Vor 3 Monate
That Guy Leroy
That Guy Leroy

I always love how Short Circuits "first impression and unboxing" videos turn into full teardowns when Linus is hosting.

Vor 3 Monate
Tel San
Tel San

Whilst these devices are powerful amazing portable pcs, it does make you appreciate the instant turn on and play of actual console manufacturers such as a Nintendo switch, here’s hoping the steamdeck can provide a similar easy and seamless experience 😬🤞

Vor 3 Monate
PortfolioPL
PortfolioPL

Aya neo next is also out with similar grip. Love to see these things evolve.

Vor 3 Monate
Martin Strnad
Martin Strnad

Whenever Stem Deck come out, I'm super curious about how you can install games onyl focussed Windows with Steam big picture opening up right after login and how it fares with the battery and power settings in Windows.

Vor 3 Monate
Max Nibler
Max Nibler

I think the main thing I miss as I've switched to a near pure PC gamer is the experience of the handheld. The Nintendo DS and PS Vita are two of my favorite consoles and a number of my favorite gaming experiences were on them. A device like this isn't in the budget for me ATM but I'm excited to see where the space is going. This looks awesome

Vor 3 Monate
nosirrahx
nosirrahx

Imagine how good the 12th gen mini PCs will be. I'm probably going to hold off for 1 more generation.

Vor 3 Monate
Marvin Keil
Marvin Keil

man I'm so excited for these things in the future... currently cant afford a handheld computer. But when I can, maybe they will run with zen 5 and/or 12th gen Intel. I'm kinda hyped

Vor 3 Monate
Galactic Video Games
Galactic Video Games

Someone needs to make one of these with HDMI in and 120Hz OLED true HDR panel.

Vor 3 Monate
Patrick Moreno
Patrick Moreno

This just shows how Valve is doing something that promises to be remarkable for portable PC gaming, but let’s see how they’ll address all the issues that can happen with PC architecture

Vor 3 Monate
Error 52
Error 52

Some of those scaling problems you had might be solved by going to Properties -> Compatibility -> Change high DPI settings -> Override high DPI scaling behaviour

Vor 3 Monate
ShaketXavius
ShaketXavius

That CTD issue with the Xe graphics was something I came across trying to play rogue heroes on my laptop with the 11th gen i5. Just crashed instantly every time. Unfortunate, but I also haven't tried it in a while

Vor 3 Monate
AusSkiller
AusSkiller

I'm really curious to see how these go once the SteamOS can be loaded on to any PC and is put on these, though that is assuming that the SteamOS interface is going to be better than Windows for hand held gaming devices. Valve are terrible at producing their hardware at reasonable volumes so these might be a good alternative to the Steam Deck if they can also use SteamOS (and don't include the cost of a Windows license).

Vor 3 Monate
Paper Goldfinch
Paper Goldfinch

Also, Intel's Linux drivers are actually very good, probably slightly better than AMD's (and both are leagues above NVIDIA).

Vor 3 Monate
THilly
THilly

All these Handhelds and I’m still more stoked for the steamdeck!

Vor 3 Monate
Wobble2007
Wobble2007

@Mr Walker I use GPD WIN 2 handheld on the train all the time, great for playing Fifa, COD, Rocket League, Skyrim, GTA 4&5, PS2 games, Gamecube games and so on, I also still use my DSi XL from time to time, so many fantastic gems on that system.

Vor 3 Monate
Mr Walker
Mr Walker

@THilly maybe go play Cod mobile instead...these Steam Deck's cost more than a PS5 in my country

Vor 3 Monate
THilly
THilly

@Mr Walker yeah well im a casual gaming with little to no time to game so I haven’t got a clue what your point is…

Vor 3 Monate
Mr Walker
Mr Walker

@THilly these are for casual gamer's..anyone worth their salt would just get a gaming laptop for serious portable gaming when travelling etc... And no I don't see gamer's using a SteamDeck on a frigging train or bus like a kid with his DS

Vor 3 Monate
THilly
THilly

@Mr Walker I don’t want a gaming laptop. These are going to be sick.

Vor 3 Monate
istevens78
istevens78

Completely impractical, but just for fun, I'd love to see this with an EGPU.

Vor 3 Monate
Neoxon
Neoxon

It's great to see more handheld PCs enter the market, especially with the Steam Deck on the horizon.

Vor 3 Monate
theober555
theober555

@intro94 you can't really say they don't sell when they're several generations in. There's obviously been a market for them else they wouldn't have made it this far. Hell, we might not even have a steam deck without them. As for performing worse than the steam deck we don't know for sure, but general consensus is that they will be very similar in performance just with the others needing more power to hit that performance.

Vor 3 Monate
intro94
intro94

These never sell since they cost thrice or 4 times the deck for worse performance.

Vor 3 Monate
theober555
theober555

All of these handheld PCs were available before the steam deck... This one's just a revision of the original One X Player, same hardware in a smaller shell.

Vor 3 Monate
Lord Justin
Lord Justin

This just gets me even more pumped for the steam deck to start shipping.

Vor 3 Monate
Crestofhonor 23
Crestofhonor 23

I still think it’s screen is too high resolution for gaming. A 1280x800 display would be much better suited for it like the aya Neo and the steam deck

Vor 3 Monate
Creative Minds
Creative Minds

while it looks amazing, i can't justify the price for that if i can get a switch for a lot cheaper. If it was AMD's upcoming graphics and mobile CPUs in there it may be a different story.

Vor 3 Monate
Pol Cámara
Pol Cámara

Another trick could be using window mode + the lossless scaling app to make it fullscreen using FSR

Vor 3 Monate
Se7enthson
Se7enthson

Having the choice of weather to plug the charger in on the top or bottom is HUGE at least to me, whenever I use my Switch in handheld mode and plug in the charger its in such an annoying place, at least to me its annoying, I would much rather be able to have the option to plug it into the top instead.

Vor 3 Monate
K'lia Jesal
K'lia Jesal

I would love to see SteamOS running on this thing after the Steamdeck hits.

Vor 3 Monate
liaminwales
liaminwales

Maybe once the intel up scaler is done they may relay perform well.

Vor 3 Monate
David P
David P

I’m pretty excited to try out SteamOS on the steam deck. Not sure if I should expect more stability or less though. We’ll find out soon.

Vor 3 Monate
Randy Flores
Randy Flores

When they come out with the amd 6800u version of the big version with an 8 inch screen, we need some improvements .grips on the rear just like on the mini .magnetic hall sensing anologe sticks

Vor 28 Tage
Caveman
Caveman

Don't they also have an AMD version? That would be a good way to avoid those driver issues

Vor 8 Tage
Montisaquadeis
Montisaquadeis

I was wondering when we might start seeing GaN chargers in the boxes of products such as these and laptops since GaN can make chargers so much smaller

Vor 3 Monate
Adargi
Adargi

As an ex PSP-1000 user I'm not 100% convinced on this but I do have to say that it has the ability to be something that I'd definitely consider over the competitor's.

Vor 3 Monate
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Global warming i̶s̶ h̶o̶t̶

For a "mini" I'd expect it to be half that size and that would've been great

Vor 3 Monate
Alexandru Stan
Alexandru Stan

I like how there's more usb ports than the steamdeck. How does linux run on it? I expect it would be pretty weird without the polish steamdeck will put in their linux distro.

Vor 3 Monate
Craig Simpson
Craig Simpson

Best to wait for the AMD 6000 series APU's before getting one of these.

Vor 3 Monate
AbuBakr Akram
AbuBakr Akram

I can’t wait for the Steam Deck to come out only for people to remember that playing extensively on a handheld is remarkably uncomfortable.

Vor 3 Monate
Montisaquadeis
Montisaquadeis

thin devices are uncomfortable for me personally. Including phones and tablets. I always stick an otterbox defender/Pelican style case on my mobile devices and I have a grip case on my Switch because yeah its uncomfortable without it. So yeah I feel the Steam Deck with its ergonomics will be perfectly fine for long sessions.

Vor 3 Monate
tassadarforaiur
tassadarforaiur

A ps Vita with an ergonomic handle case is a very appealing experience for many people. We'll have to wait till people have more hands on time, but with the bulky handle design, have a good feeling about steamdeck ergonomics

Vor 3 Monate
Zoidberg
Zoidberg

Yes the switch has had a rough time in sales and usage, especially the switch lite.

Vor 3 Monate
Ryan Krage
Ryan Krage

Using the DS lite for hours at a time is fine, and that's a lot less ergonomic than the steam deck.

Vor 3 Monate
SPNvidz
SPNvidz

I have played Witcher 3 on Switch Lite for like 8-10 hours straight using a grip case. No discomfort. I don’t recommend with no grip case but with one there was no discomfort for me.

Vor 3 Monate
MLosUno
MLosUno

Something with an included GaN charger alone is impressive!

Vor 3 Monate
yensteel
yensteel

Perhaps setting desktop's resolution to 720p would make 720 borderless work better?

Vor 3 Monate
4D4MS C0RN3R
4D4MS C0RN3R

Fairly cool, rather any of these over the switch. Soon as streamdeck is out if it can emulate switch games (not an entirely crazy concept support it getting really good now)... Ill snap one up. Probably be unbuyable like current consoles though for a year or 2 after launch.

Vor 3 Monate
Desmond Sky
Desmond Sky

Amazing performance for the cheap price of only $1300...

Vor 3 Monate
Tyler Sinclair
Tyler Sinclair

you can play Witcher 3 on a switch some how something to keep in mind lol.

Vor 3 Monate
SomeoneOnlyWeKnow
SomeoneOnlyWeKnow

Looks really awesome, love my gpd pocket 2 and would love to get a gpd pocket 3 some day

Vor 3 Monate
wabash9000
wabash9000

Witcher 3 has major issues with displays that are not 16:9. I have a 21:9 display and had to google how to get past the tutorial because the tooltips that told me how to play were rendered off the edge of the screen. Borderland 3 has issues with this in the fast travel screen and cyberpunk has issues with the photo mode not being able to move the mouse to the right side of the controls.

Vor 3 Monate
wabash9000
wabash9000

@shoubey That's why I gave it a shot. I have heard nothing but good things about it, but it was one the worst experience I've ever had in a game. I can't think of any other AAA game I uninstalled after such a short time. I was playing with mouse/keyboard and the button assignments felt really random and the mouse controls felt like there was a ton of mouse acceleration. I briefly tried it with an xbox control because some people online recommended it but I couldn't figure out how to do basic things with the controller and was having to pause every 20 seconds to look up the controls. So I gave up on that after about 10 minutes.

Vor 3 Monate
shoubey
shoubey

@wabash9000 Witcher 3 is probably the best game I've ever played. I would encourage you to give it another shot. With some quality of life mods it gets really good to play even tho it is a bit old by now. As to the controls, well you don't need the tutorial its mostly default keybinds with KBM. But you only need the mouse buttons and dogde (maybe a sign here and there). Idk about controller.

Vor 3 Monate
wabash9000
wabash9000

@shoubey Props to you for playing for that long. I gave up after 4.9 hours because the controls were really bad and I didn't know what was going on having never played a Witcher game before. The 21:9 issues were only with the tooltip overlays during the tutorial. If you already knew how to play, you probably skipped the tutorial and didn't notice it. The menu issue he had might have been because it was a 16:10 screen instead of a 16:9 so it was taller than expected and it rendered the menu off the side of the screen.

Vor 3 Monate
shoubey
shoubey

nah in my experience not Witcher. Played Witcher 3 over Christmas for about 150hours again on 21:9 and gameplaywise it scaled perfectly except for dialog, for which I had to apply some weird hex code thing in some config tool idk anymore...but all in all I guess 21:1+ (all ultrawides) is another kind of problem as its not as common as the 16:9 and 16:10 etc. ratios.

Vor 3 Monate
Mac Gyver
Mac Gyver

They could have installed a larger cooler, or maybe even a video card had they moved stuff into those handle voids like the battery...

Vor 3 Monate
IDont Know
IDont Know

I feel like the Steam deck will destroy most of the market for products like these. The cost is just too high for something like this.

Vor 3 Monate
VengfulDarkness
VengfulDarkness

I feel they would be worth the price IF they didn't have to use desktop windows, so you didn't have that jankiness. So Steam OS by itself should make these better, and more worth the 1.2k price tag.

Vor 3 Monate
r3FleX
r3FleX

I really like my 1X player with the 1165 G7. A frame rates are surprisingly awesome it definitely competes with a 1650 when you have the wattage cranked. The fingerprint/power button is very janky overtime at least it can be replaced.

Vor 3 Monate
r3FleX
r3FleX

@HARIS KHAN skip to 20:00 on the first vid

Vor 3 Monate
HARIS KHAN
HARIS KHAN

You mean Gtx 1650, how on earth did iris Xe get so good? i need video proof.

Vor 3 Monate
LiK
LiK

I wonder if they can make a Ryzen variant.

Vor 3 Monate
Alton Bredthauer
Alton Bredthauer

Can't wait to see when they come out with full Ryzen 6000 APUs with RNDA2

Vor 3 Monate
Simen Pedersen
Simen Pedersen

If Steam Deck is successful, I won't be surprised if Microsoft make their own handheld in a few years that will probably in 5 years time have the same speed as RTX 3080 on a desktop today

Vor 3 Monate
James Sinnett
James Sinnett

I thank Linus for helping me get my ONE x PLAYER. Thank you Linus if this ever gets to you .

Vor 3 Monate
Loku
Loku

Imagine the vr gaming. You can just slip in in your pocket or have it strapped and boom portable almost wireless vr

Vor 3 Monate
Bejenaru Daniel
Bejenaru Daniel

Should we take a moment to take this in? Having the "Activate Windows" screen on a hand-held.

Vor 3 Monate
Garfy Cat
Garfy Cat

Right?! I expect a games console (that's essentially what it is) to have software built in, not to have to pay extra for it! Imagine having to pay extra for "Switch-OS" when you buy a Nintendo Switch!

Vor 3 Monate
Nick The Greek
Nick The Greek

Wonder how these will do with steam os running on them when the os arrives

Vor 3 Monate
Alistair Blaire
Alistair Blaire

The ultimate endgame for portable PCs imo is something with detachable controllers on the left and right, a detachable keyboard on the bottom, and a main body with decent specs. It feels like we're so close.

Vor 3 Monate
Varian Rhesa
Varian Rhesa

it's all the fun game. Until you know Nintendo already used that concept, and sue everyone who tried to copy

Vor 3 Monate
Tato-Chip
Tato-Chip

You know i really wish that microsoft made a custom alternative interface for Tablets :^)

Vor 3 Monate
Lazy Bunny Kiera
Lazy Bunny Kiera

Hey LTT, when you mention USB C ports on such devices, please mention the generations. You didn't mention these are USB-C 4.0 ports, which are also thunderbolt 4 that go direct to the cpu. So you could connect an eGPU to it if you wanted to dock it and use it as your main gaming PC. I use a GPD Win Max 2021(1195G7) with a 3060TI eGPU as my main gaming PC. With an external KB/Mouse and 2560x1080 UW LCD.

Vor 3 Monate
Tag Howard
Tag Howard

Gotta love that feeling of reassembling something, sitting up, and seeing a screw sitting on your chair.

Vor 3 Monate
VašVoljeniStanoje
VašVoljeniStanoje

This prices though..... They are good but expensive! SteamDeck seems like really a good choice. Even 600$ model.

Vor 3 Monate
TokiWar2th
TokiWar2th

Gpd pretty much stood uncontested in this space. Aya came out of nowhere, one-x had some bumps then improved. Now Valve. I feel like Gpd is hardly in the conversation anymore. I don't understand why. I think the gpd win max is still the best device as far as versatility. I would imagine win max 2 will be even more refined.

Vor 3 Monate
CuteTransGirlxD
CuteTransGirlxD

I can't wait to get my stream deck. I hope it goes well

Vor 3 Monate
tassadarforaiur
tassadarforaiur

With mobile graphics improving, these 7" screens seem like they would compromise well with a 1680x1050 screen, if anyone actually makes those.

Vor 3 Monate
walkin mn
walkin mn

Valve could do that for the Steam deck 2... if they manage to launch this one on time... and it sells very well

Vor 3 Monate
Targetlockon
Targetlockon

Steam deck seems to have better value and RDNA2 performance can't wait :)

Vor 3 Monate
Menickc
Menickc

Handheld gaming is just going to keep getting better and better in the coming years and it's very exciting.

Vor 3 Monate
sekazi
sekazi

I would much rather have a separate grip to buy than have it bulky out of the box. I then can either go mobile as compact as possible or with a grip. This is why I love my satisfye grips for my Switch so much. I do not always want to take the grip with me

Vor 3 Monate
Paolo Spalletta
Paolo Spalletta

amd new mobile line up could be better for this devices? Or due to the lack of thunderbolt Intel will still be the best choice?

Vor 3 Monate
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Seems to be quite good but the price is the only problem here. Definitely can’t compete with things like the steam deck in-terms of value

Vor 3 Monate
SilverKnight
SilverKnight

I bought the Mini, and while it runs better than my Aya Neo, the battery life is...not great. At 800p, I'm getting like an hour and a half to slightly under two hours for my triple AAA gaming experience, which isn't fantastic. If you don't have to worry about the battery life, it's great, but I'd steer clear for that reason alone.

Vor 2 Monate
Lars JJ
Lars JJ

These devices are really, really cool. But tbh, for gaming (imo) a phone with a good controller (like the rishi) and Xbox gamepass is a much better choice for portable gaming...

Vor 3 Monate
Ahmed
Ahmed

you need to pick "fullscreen" instead of "borderless" in tw3 settings for it to run in the resolution you choose despite the size of the display...

Vor 3 Monate
NovaStorm
NovaStorm

@shortcircuit have you guys seen the Aya Neo Next? It looks pretty sick 😁 apart from not having RDNA 2 yet 😢

Vor 3 Monate
FedeIMkun
FedeIMkun

I am waiting for the deck, this never mention spare parts and those are a must in a handheld device

Vor 3 Monate
Sky NightZ
Sky NightZ

I imagine the Win 3 has been broken, given out to a staff member or just LMG forget it exists for comparisons.

Vor 3 Monate
luckeycat
luckeycat

@Nick Miller I've had a Win 3 since launch with absolutely no issues that weren't windows related. I know alot have had issues but you seem to only hear from them. Competition and variety is good, but the Win 3 is an amazing device!

Vor 3 Monate
dotPixel
dotPixel

The version of the Win 3 that's still on indiegogo actually uses the exact same CPU, so they'd really only be able to compare form factor, controls, and cooling

Vor 3 Monate
Sky NightZ
Sky NightZ

@Nick Miller Inferior how? they have the same GPU. This is a 'mini' version and the win 3 is smaller. So as a comparison, at least just a mention.. makes sense. ooooh wait... you are just trolling.

Vor 3 Monate
Kumud Mecwan
Kumud Mecwan

The biggest advantage Steam Deck has against all the handheld consoles is the memory bandwidth of 88 GByte/s.

Vor 3 Monate
ChronoXShadow
ChronoXShadow

Still say the d-pad/analog stick layout on the Steam Deck makes much more sense. Why stick to conventional positioning?

Vor 3 Monate
DCstar
DCstar

Had me all hyped until the price was mentioned.

Vor 3 Monate
Jora
Jora

Good grips are so important. I've recently started to spend hours playing Monster Hunter, and I noticed that even the Xbox One controller is a bit small

Vor 3 Monate
Averdrity
Averdrity

Can't wait for these kind of devices to become better! Would LOVE one!

Vor 3 Monate
Averdrity
Averdrity

@Piers Segal Thanks m8

Vor 3 Monate
Piers Segal
Piers Segal

@Averdrity you can get emulators for every platform on Linux/SteamOS. Many of the big ones are Linux projects that have a Windows port. Many of the big ones have been actively working on their Linux performance specifically for the Deck and Retroarch is even directly available through Steam. There's absolutely no need to use Windows over Linux/SteamOS for emulation

Vor 3 Monate
Averdrity
Averdrity

@Piers Segal I want windows for easy access to emulators :)

Vor 3 Monate
Piers Segal
Piers Segal

@Averdrity it's not old Steam OS it's new Steam OS that's very different. Also you can just run Windows on it it you want. But I imagine once you're hands on with it you wouldn't see the need to.

Vor 3 Monate
Averdrity
Averdrity

@Piers Segal But aint it steamOS? I would like Win10/11.

Vor 3 Monate
Sully Chowder
Sully Chowder

I'd rather get the Aya Neo Pro or wait for the steam deck at this point, if it does ship.

Vor 3 Monate
moon boy
moon boy

I don't even want one of these but the clear plastic design of the original Neo is super appealing to me.

Vor 3 Monate
Sergey Voytenkov
Sergey Voytenkov

Can't wait for the Steam Deck to ship for you to review!

Vor 3 Monate
Xalderin
Xalderin

So when will we see these handhelds with the Ryzen mobile 6000 series and RDNA 2 APUs? Because I fully believe that will be what makes these all compete with the Steam Deck once it releases. Until then, these mostly seem aimed at people who are impatient, and would rather just get something instead of the steam deck which is out in less then a month... (Unless if Valve delays again) Aside from that, I feel like these handhelds should wait for Intel to fix their drivers before using them. One of the reasons AMD is leading in APU performance. *sigh*

Vor 3 Monate
Xalderin
Xalderin

@Super Neenjaa True. But once 6000 series mobile APUs hit these handhelds, they could at least compete with performance. And if I remember correctly, the CPU in the 6000 series Mobile APUs will easily out perform what's in the Steam Deck.

Vor 3 Monate
Super Neenjaa
Super Neenjaa

Nothing can compete with steam deck in terms of price. They are selling at loss.

Vor 3 Monate

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