Why the Marvel Cinematic Universe feels empty

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    What makes a fictional universe good? In this requested episode of Overrated, Vox’s Phil Edwards explores the past and present of fictional universes to try to figure it out.
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    Fictional universes and crossovers have been around long before the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The Green Hornet radio show had a crossover with the Lone Ranger that kicked off the trend. In comics, the Marvel Universe started long before Stan Lee was at the helm.

    But these crossovers have a problem: They can privilege business relationships ahead of storytelling immersion and really interesting universes. As the Tommy Westphall Universe shows, crossovers often become a map of business decisions rather than of integrated fictional stories, and that leads to worse stories.

    This problem plagues the MCU as well. When Marvel engineers crossovers, they aren’t thinking about a universe transformed by superheroes - they just want more quips, explosions, and cash. Or at least that’s Edwards’s argument - do you think the MCU works?
    Overrated is a series that takes a look at the things we all know - the books, the trends, and the ideas that have become iconic - and answers the question: “Why is this so famous"?
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Vox
Vox

You know that one font every comic book uses? Phil Edwards explains where it came from, and how it became so enduring: http://bit.ly/2EoOE6a

Vor 5 Monate
Ribbitt III
Ribbitt III

Vox nobody EXCEPT FANS would notice

Vor 7 Tage
macgyver15147
macgyver15147

Looks like VOX is overrated

Vor Monat
SirKain
SirKain

we will never have it be the "true" comic story, since wolverine, daredevil, she hulk, the fantastic 4, the "avengers" and a non kid spiderman will never be in the same movie

Vor 14 Stunden
Cataclysmic Dildoser
Cataclysmic Dildoser

Would be interessting to maybe learn some new details, could be fun, so let's give it a chance, I'm open-minded... (french accent) - 1 video later Now I understand you mean well & I respect your opinion... but this is some ol' bullshit there, dude! Like it's missing 2/3 of the nessessary content to explain your point of view. You're only scratching the surface here. (Arrow-voice) You failed this spectator crowd... I have spoken. Hail Hydra

Vor 15 Stunden
Mordyth
Mordyth

Hey how can we get a bunch of views? Let's pay out the biggest movie franchise of all time

Vor Tag
zacywoo
zacywoo

Everyone new they were the same goddam universe anyway you potato brain

Vor Tag
zacywoo
zacywoo

Wtfffffff the ant Man one people already new he was in the cinematic universe and was to show the the scientist bloke (I forgot his name) had a fall out with the guys at sheild etc

Vor Tag
Rhyannon Ashford
Rhyannon Ashford

Wait... is your argument just "it doesn't make sense because its fiction"? You don't have any supporting arguments, just a thesis statement and 7 minutes of disjointedly reading the wikipedia page for St. Elsewhere.

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Michael Angeloz
Michael Angeloz

The most pretentious video ever existed :) sorry vox, but stop talking about things you don't understand

Vor 2 Tage
Maurice Buckley
Maurice Buckley

Yes people would definitely know if Hawkeye showed up in the background. Unless Jeremy Renner is Green Arrow or a Lanter. These movies are for the fans. Some are better than others but if you're not a fan then its okay. Sign me up for Marvel v DC v Dragonball

Vor 2 Tage
Gumersindo Cebollero
Gumersindo Cebollero

Boy does this make you look stupid. Feel bad for the guy, he probably didn't write this attempt at an analysis.

Vor 2 Tage
Arturo Rubio
Arturo Rubio

In short they are trying to say the MCU lacks the real world feel of superheros and the consequences they would have on the world like how the X-men series handles their universe. The only MCU film to do it "correctly" would be Civil War in which they do show the real world impact the heroes have on the world

Vor 2 Tage
Funny Gruny
Funny Gruny

Bruh it’s a connected universe and by the later movies ofc we know it’s connected so what’s wrong with mentioning it in early parts of ant man, also it works very well and if it’s confusing for you how it’s connected and is together than you need to go get ur chromosomes back, not that complicated

Vor 2 Tage
Rick Hand
Rick Hand

looks at dislike and like button I love democracy

Vor 2 Tage
Dekkusu
Dekkusu

wasted 9 minutes and 38 seconds of my life... give it back...

Vor 2 Tage
MsSunisred2
MsSunisred2

of all the things wrong with the mcu you chose world-building? Maybe thats why this video felt empty...

Vor 3 Tage
Jorge Emiliano Bustamante Montenegro
Jorge Emiliano Bustamante Montenegro

No.

Vor 3 Tage
Spectacular Spider-Man
Spectacular Spider-Man

It’s overrated because the stories are par for the course.

Vor 3 Tage
Brian Jobim Tan
Brian Jobim Tan

Who the f@ck is this idiot? First that sh!tty PC build now this.

Vor 3 Tage
Maurice Garrick
Maurice Garrick

This is nonsense

Vor 3 Tage
Kushal Sadafale
Kushal Sadafale

Only vox documentary,that I found irrelevant.

Vor 4 Tage
Dutch Vanderlin
Dutch Vanderlin

Vox, I want my 9:39 seconds left.

Vor 4 Tage
Harsh One 1
Harsh One 1

So did Vox cancelled this series because of one bad video

Vor 4 Tage
Three Friends
Three Friends

103k dislikes lol looks like a bunch of fanboys

Vor 4 Tage
Three Friends
Three Friends

Gumersindo Cebollero I don’t hate marvel but after endgame it will fell empty

Vor 2 Tage
Gumersindo Cebollero
Gumersindo Cebollero

Do you agree with the video?

Vor 2 Tage
CreamyGoodness
CreamyGoodness

So a film series with a multitude of continuity errors is better than a developed and coherent universe? _Sure_

Vor 4 Tage
Derp 360
Derp 360

You monster dont u ever talk about them like that boy

Vor 4 Tage
Prasanna Patil
Prasanna Patil

This video is wrong from core... See this reply.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYjovWomA70

Vor 4 Tage
Aqhbar Shaiful
Aqhbar Shaiful

its not, you stupid.

Vor 4 Tage
M. Talk
M. Talk

The Like to Dislike ratio says it all.......Perfectly balanced as all things should be....

Vor 4 Tage
Matt Witt
Matt Witt

Your overrated

Vor 5 Tage
coopdejoure
coopdejoure

Now I see how this got over 100k dislikes. You dont know anything about die hard fans, universe development or character relationship building.

Vor 5 Tage
dgeez123z
dgeez123z

Have another downvote, vox is garbage

Vor 6 Tage
comic fan
comic fan

In film God was over here defending this video why am I not surprised he knows absolutely nothing about character development

Vor 6 Tage
Swishajay
Swishajay

?

Vor 6 Tage
Oscar Cardenas
Oscar Cardenas

Almost 10 minutes of nothing. What a bait geez

Vor 6 Tage
Gabriel M
Gabriel M

Why does this video feel... empty?

Vor 6 Tage
Sachin Raghavan
Sachin Raghavan

I too think it's heavily overrated but not because of these. Anyway, do Marvel Animated Universe is underrated next.

Vor 7 Tage
3 Dollars and 50 Cents
3 Dollars and 50 Cents

Best Vox video by far

Vor 7 Tage
Lewis Mugo
Lewis Mugo

wow mot much about marvel, and star wars marvel cross over? damn

Vor 7 Tage
Paulafan5
Paulafan5

It feels empty because... why? Still didn't really answer that question.

Vor 8 Tage
Dj Bloor
Dj Bloor

I get what he's saying. And it's a sensible issue to think of, BUT no movie viewer really cares about it being a problem.

Vor 8 Tage
TayterTots ASMR
TayterTots ASMR

I would care if aquaman was on the poster. I know about every character in depth so yes it would make difference. Most people do.

Vor 8 Tage
Normal Guy
Normal Guy

I normally like Vox but it feels like you guys don't really understand anything about being a comic fan.

Vor 8 Tage
Normal Guy
Normal Guy

Did I just hear a man say that Fox's X-Men universe was better than the MCU?

Vor 8 Tage
Carlos Vannoni
Carlos Vannoni

Screw you vox Enough said

Vor 9 Tage
HarrBearTnt
HarrBearTnt

You know I really used to like Vox but then they became way to leftist and just criticize things they shouldnt

Vor 10 Tage
Jason Hulett
Jason Hulett

This video felt empty.

Vor 10 Tage
Max Kafka
Max Kafka

The host is clearly expressing a cis, heteronormative, patriarchal perspective. This video is LITERALLY RAPE!!!

Vor 10 Tage
Elliot
Elliot

I feel like captain marvel has really helped with some continuity tho

Vor 11 Tage
frabsurdity
frabsurdity

Iamverysmart

Vor 11 Tage
Sunglass Hut
Sunglass Hut

This is so ironic because the MCU is thriving while this video is what feels so empty.

Vor 13 Tage
Olivia Sanchez
Olivia Sanchez

If anything this video is empty. All the points are loosely connected and don’t make sense. Marvel does have some flaws and even as a fan I admit that but none of the flaws that should have been addressed, were.

Vor 14 Tage
Jack Black
Jack Black

Lol so many triggered marvel fans. They're probably crying in their parents basements over this video.

Vor 14 Tage
This Dude Actually Said
This Dude Actually Said

how do i choose between mutants and humans unless either one?

Vor 15 Tage
This Dude Actually Said
This Dude Actually Said

really? because at the end of Logan all anybody knew of the X Men were comics which even he said were all bullshit

Vor 15 Tage
Azwar A.
Azwar A.

the most disliked video i've ever watched !!!!

Vor 15 Tage
greenturtle gaming
greenturtle gaming

This vid is empty

Vor 16 Tage
Mauricio Vargas Sánchez
Mauricio Vargas Sánchez

Come on! Tell me more than 10 movies made in Hollywood that are good and weren't made for the sake of 💰

Vor 16 Tage
Lamar Davis
Lamar Davis

The MCU’s popularity and profit margins prove this video is nothingness.

Vor 16 Tage
Logan Barry
Logan Barry

i want you to make another video on marvel. i like all these sweet marvel fans cry their hurt hearts out

Vor 17 Tage
2002 Pontiac Montana
2002 Pontiac Montana

I'd be fine not seeing another one of these movies ever again.

Vor 17 Tage
Nutsilica
Nutsilica

Cross-overs are as old as comics themselves. Newspaper strips did it all the time. Oftentimes Vox has videos that are full of wrong facts.

Vor 18 Tage
Nutsilica
Nutsilica

He uses a story about Mork knowing Fonzie because Gary Marshall’s son told him Fonzie should meet an alien, as an example of how it is about the money, not the writing. Making a show of your son’s idea is not about money!

Vor 18 Tage
Nutsilica
Nutsilica

The public loves cross-overs, therefore writers would like them too. The Vox writer doesn’t realize that can also be good for the money and the writing. Ancient writings have cross-overs!

Vor 18 Tage
Joshua Boswell
Joshua Boswell

Marvel movies are appalling abominations. They’ve completely destroyed the genre.

Vor 18 Tage
CraisenGaming
CraisenGaming

Omfg there’s so many dislikes, but I can see why and I think most of the movies are bass besides like the new spider man and infinity war

Vor 19 Tage
Exdiamonds
Exdiamonds

booooooooooo

Vor 19 Tage
Justin Cheng
Justin Cheng

What the heck this is so wrong

Vor 19 Tage
xxk hdn
xxk hdn

Daredevil??

Vor 19 Tage
lazyidiotofthemonth
lazyidiotofthemonth

You did this over Apple?

Vor 20 Tage
Zealous Zombae
Zealous Zombae

listen, i hate the mcu but at least i can say why i hate it pls justify yourself better jesus

Vor 21 Tag
Unseated
Unseated

90 percent of the video is poorly explained background knowledge the other 10 percent is poorly explained nothingness

Vor 21 Tag
Mariya Vatova
Mariya Vatova

What about shield vs hydra. Thats bigger than just the heroes and merch aspect.

Vor 21 Tag
Izaac7000 ´
Izaac7000 ´

all the marvel fanboys in the comments XD

Vor 21 Tag
donna cannon
donna cannon

Ah yes because it's not a crossover when iron man is in homecoming it's only an Easter egg

Vor 21 Tag
Century
Century

Marvel fans disliked the video but I agree.

Vor 22 Tage
Jelani Wood
Jelani Wood

Not to kick you guys while you're down anymore but here's what I think this video was trying to say but this video actually said a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Bq_jK0Z1Y&t=990s

Vor 22 Tage
J R
J R

Full disclosure, I am a comic book nerd and a marvel movie fan. That being said, I think the MCU has had its major flaws. I have watched agreed with videos and articles that take on a similar viewpoint to this video, with different topics to address MCU Flaws, and agreed. Wrong or right is irrelevant after someone watches this video. You got your view. Some points are unfounded, others not given any legitimate reasoning or context. This video is an opinion piece through and through. A poorly made one at that. Purely based upon, the points made that try to connect an intentional crossover with decades of history to a one off of a 70s tv show. Claiming story is thrown to the side just to see characters side by side. While the MCU has its faults, none are accurately represented in this video. This is 100 percent clickbait. Trying to link Vox to the most popular movie series across the globe. You have achieved but two things with this video, Vox: A dislike and a bad taste in my mouth for your future products.

Vor 22 Tage
Brijith Andrews
Brijith Andrews

Marvel is my life, you kill it you kill me too

Vor 23 Tage
The Man With A Million Names
The Man With A Million Names

Of course there's something missing. There'll always be something missing, ya cheeky bastard.

Vor 23 Tage
Peter Love
Peter Love

Good ol clickbait.

Vor 24 Tage
akshay Viswambharan
akshay Viswambharan

Hahaha... I'm overwhelmed by the dislikes you got...you deserved

Vor 24 Tage
Will Reading
Will Reading

Wtf is your criteria for 'too many characters'? They have all been very well established and are based off the thousands of comic characters that exist in marvel. You're fkn dumb

Vor 24 Tage
Khul Golgotha
Khul Golgotha

Fuuuuuuuuuuuu

Vor 25 Tage
Dimitrije6500 :D
Dimitrije6500 :D

Why does Vox still exist, at this point its common knowledge that they just spread misinformation

Vor 26 Tage
Eli Jaques
Eli Jaques

This dude kept hinting at this perfect solution to fixing the Mcu's problems but he never really told us it, this was just a confusing mess of random facts trying to lead itself to a point it never reached, also the x men universe is hella confusing because of the way they mess with time, the mcu isn't perfect but it's much more clearly defined

Vor 26 Tage
VISHNU PRIYA / vp
VISHNU PRIYA / vp

.................................................

Vor 26 Tage
DTB
DTB

"What makes a fictional universe good?" Well, the audience knows the answer. Why don't you seem to?

Vor 27 Tage
James Leandre
James Leandre

So the X-Men universe has logic but yet every 2 or 3 X-Men films they need to re-write and scrap the continuity of the universe... Vox please keep your illmanaged opinions to yourself and all your hipster friends.

Vor 27 Tage
Pauline Montagna
Pauline Montagna

😂😂😂

Vor 27 Tage
Incognito Mode
Incognito Mode

This is the first video I have seen from you guys. If all your videos are like this, then you might as well rename your channel to “buzzfeed 2”

Vor 28 Tage
Dead Memes
Dead Memes

Hey... Shut up

Vor 28 Tage
Fascia B
Fascia B

It feels empty become it so drawn out and people are loosing interest in this storyline. Even the actors are tired of this same story.

Vor 28 Tage
Son0fHobs
Son0fHobs

This is the most overrated video I've ever seen with 3x the amount of dislikes! Glad I glanced at the comments first!

Vor 28 Tage
CactusTea
CactusTea

Like for SpiderMan Reply for SuperMan

Vor 29 Tage
NIgHTMaReFortyTwo
NIgHTMaReFortyTwo

lol there are so many normals with zero taste in this comments section. They aren't your films, why are you all so quick to jump to their defense? They're bland piles of dross for children.

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Bardo boy515
Bardo boy515

bit awkward...

Vor Monat
Noah Slav8805
Noah Slav8805

This guy wants to destroy Marvel Memes. I will throw Thanos brick at u

Vor Monat
Noah Slav8805
Noah Slav8805

This guy supports T-Series and liked DC

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hi there
hi there

*how is it empty tho*

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Sekope Tauyavu
Sekope Tauyavu

This video is so empty....

Vor Monat
balram sharan
balram sharan

First vox video which was so boring.

Vor Monat

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