Proof that Sonic is Actually Slow!? - Sonic Theory / Gnoggin

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    Dr. Robotnik, aka Eggman, has outrun Sonic the Hedgehog MULTIPLE times throughout the games! But how is such a thing possible? Sonic is the fastest hedgehog alive besides Shadow! But is he really all that fast? Or is he... a hedgehog? Today lets talk about animal brains and relativity to explain this Sonic theory, about how Eggman constantly outruns him!
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Annoying Intro
    00:27 Eggman is SPEED
    00:50 Sponsored by Vessi
    01:54 Sonic is SLOW
    02:24 Time and Speed
    08:50 Small Animals and Time
    11:16 Applying this to Sonic
    14:55 Goodbye

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What would've happened if GameFreak designed and released 256 Pokemon species in Gen 1? How would that have change the future Pokemon games, manga, anime, TCG, etc.? How would GameFreak have handled with designing 256 new species for every new generation?

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Cesar the Salad
Cesar the Salad

I think Sonic is purposely trying to go slow, because 1, if Sonic actually moved towards Eggman at the speed of sound, he'll kill him And 2, Sonic likes adventures, he likes a challenge, so stopping Eggman now would be too easy That's why Sonic doesn't try to catch up to him, he knows he can, but he won't.

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Rez Rezzy
Rez Rezzy

Very interesting video, learn something every day. Keep up the good work. Your videos have gotten better as well as your health. Sounds silly but you as well looking healthier and more confident with nice touch of comedic relief. Looking forward to your next video.

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Eduardo Kenji
Eduardo Kenji

Za warudo is slower for Sonic

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Eduardo Kenji
Eduardo Kenji

Soos thht hegddged

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Munchie Litten
Munchie Litten

Lol poor pika

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Talimus Bellavance
Talimus Bellavance

8:50 - Lockstin out of context.

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The Pan Man
The Pan Man

Sonic is actually slow and here's why Hedgehogs in real life dont run fast, silly! They just think they do! Therefore Sonic does.

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Doom Guy
Doom Guy

You’re gonna have a heart attack

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nbusto
nbusto

But isn't sonic the hedgehog an alien hedgehog from a planet called Mobius sounds kind of stupid to compare a cartoon alien hedgehog to real animals and how they see speed all we know is if eggman built something so he can outrun sonic. Then again its your theory so it might not be true. As you said eggman as the technology to do so. So in not judging.

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Aidon Brintley
Aidon Brintley

Eggman: I am faster than Sonic. Sonic: Sega told me that you're beating yourself in the mirror.😆

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Aidon Brintley
Aidon Brintley

Did you know that Lockstin keeps secrets about his voice?

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Dissonance Paradiddle
Dissonance Paradiddle

Really glad you humans are so slow. It makes borrowing things from you much easier

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crab game
crab game

Can we get a count on how many times lockstin has indicated that he is an alien similar to 5:49

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Blazing Embit
Blazing Embit

R.I.P Lego Pikachu

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Minecraft Steve is in Smash
Minecraft Steve is in Smash

Maybe he has a bad acceleration some

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Tommy Winata
Tommy Winata

People who watch Game Theory : Hm... familiar..

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Jonathan Doss
Jonathan Doss

Maybe eggman moves fast because of his 300 IQ, his brain might be built different in a literal sense, so this theory could actually apply to him as well.

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salwa jalil
salwa jalil

You seriously he’s slow or you are just kidding me

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Violet Vulpix
Violet Vulpix

13:25 Am I the only one disturbed by the way they’re walking? You’re not a cowboy bro, don’t do this to me 🥶

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Shane Gil
Shane Gil

At the end he says maybe Eggman has robot legs you're just copying matpat.

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Shane Gil
Shane Gil

Sanic slow Eggman fast. Nintendo better also the shoes don't make him fast actually look it .

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Voidless
Voidless

8:04 - 8:30 yes

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Stephen Faircloth
Stephen Faircloth

Gasp! MatPat what happened to you!?

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legendary7708
legendary7708

PIKACHU!

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Classhat
Classhat

The algorithm frowns upon you.

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Golden Boy Benny
Golden Boy Benny

You where defending sonic being fast in a debunk and know your saying sonic is slow. I’m mad Now.

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Robin Adriaensens
Robin Adriaensens

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JoreX
JoreX

1:20 did he said wife? ...soo... I dont know if ican becalled a fan because i have no idea if thats real, a funny way to zell shoes or just random stuff goimg on.

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Gage Vic
Gage Vic

0:23 wtf wide man is faster than sonic. Bro ima quit

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Portalcrafter Productions
Portalcrafter Productions

I think sonic just slows down so eggman can get in his next mech.

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Lee Runion
Lee Runion

I could see this theory being true FOR THE GAME. add in animal height difference which gets left out all the time and when someone ask. IS IT THE SHOES?? it is! They are special low friction shoes. and it's a video game it has to be kept at a fairly reasonable pace..

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Finn Birnel
Finn Birnel

Didn’t he make a video debunking a game theory video about the same thing?

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Moobloom Bees moobloom
Moobloom Bees moobloom

1:55 is when the ad ends

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Miles Edgelord
Miles Edgelord

relativity is just a theory and has been disproved countless of times, by thousands of scientists who actually understand relativity, check out http://einsteinwrong.com/site/ for more info.

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Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem
Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem

Or maybe he didn’t wanna ruin the space station and kill tails, eggman, and himself. I remember your old theory that he can control his speed.

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Catcocomics
Catcocomics

I think the mechanical legs hypothesis is more likely, I mean, look at Starfox 64 multi-player and how everyone just runs really fast.

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Xavior
Xavior

Ayo, isn't this the same guy that made a debunk vid for Game Theory saying Sonic isn't slow?

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Abigail Cain
Abigail Cain

Eggman canonically does cardio according to the comics

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HDGamer
HDGamer

The day I watched this video I hit a fly out of the air with a broomstick pole and I felt like a freakin ninja

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Hanako Wolf
Hanako Wolf

This theory reminds me of the movie "Epic" if anyone remembers it. In a way, it IS true! For example, take what the dad says in the beginning of the movie. "Bugs and smaller animals can be living in a ”different dimension" from ours by how they precieve time and the world around them. To a bug, we humans are just bug, dumb, and slow." Makes sense! 😋

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{'•Witch Cat•'}
{'•Witch Cat•'}

“Annoying Intro” “Eggman is SPEED” “Sponsored by Vessi” “Sonic is SLOW” “Time and Speed” “Small Animals and Time” “Applying this to Sonic” “Goodbye”

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K N
K N

TIL I need all games to be 60 FPS from now on so all dogs and cats may enjoy them

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K N
K N

Wait, are you telling me that children perceive time as so much slower because of their metabolic rate and because they're smaller????

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JumpySpiderLady
JumpySpiderLady

My daughter has that lego (yes I know it’s not really lego) pikachu. I’ve rebuilt it too many times. Time for the kragle.

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The Minecraft
The Minecraft

Eggman was also faster than Sonic on foot in SA2 and the Olympic games

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Nieroshai
Nieroshai

Or you could refrain from MatPatting and remember that the 3d games (and the speeds they represent) are canon and Sonic (like Goku) is easily bored and won't fight an opponent at his weakest. Sonic can't catch unarmored Eggman? Sonic WON'T catch unarmored Eggman. Observe that Sonic IS moving slowly during those 2d game scenes where he chases Eggman.

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Golden Lightning
Golden Lightning

This is a backwards arc dude lol your channel literally grew and blew up off of the sonic is still fast rebuttal you made towards game theory all those years ago and now u are going back again to change that theory I love his so much

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Marcus Dewhurst
Marcus Dewhurst

HOOPA HE IS HURTING PIKACHU

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White Diamond ツ
White Diamond ツ

Sonic used Trick room

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Joey Tabora
Joey Tabora

The mantis shrimp factoid actually isn't true, the ranges of their cones overlap significantly, so any wavelength of light is likely to trigger 3 or 4 of them, and as a result their vision is likely sort of a brownish blur. And by blurry I don't necessarily mean that they have blurry vision, just that the colors aren't super vibrant. However, having many cones trigger for a given color is actually pretty advantageous, because it lets them be pretty sure about which color they're seeing pretty fast, because each of the cones is basically confirming what the cones of neighboring wavelengths are seeing

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Redcast
Redcast

archie sonic: i would like to disagree with you there buckaroo

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Inverse wheel35
Inverse wheel35

Froggy is big’s best friend so there is a frog toad type sonic character

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jared roundtree
jared roundtree

Lockstin lets call a spade a spade the Galar region is just a nature preserve which is why sooooooo many rare Pokémon are there and why many moves aren't supported moves like punishment and judgement. They aren't very natural and can be used as death blows so they wouldn't let the Pokémon learn this in such an environment being a preserve. to support this the isle of armor and the crown tundra. As the isle of armor have what seems to be mostly imported creatures as the island like the wild area are obviously manmade to support certain Pokémon in the preserve . i assume the land needed human intervention along with Pokémon intervention for the Galar region to thrive after oh say a meteor or comet hit it potentially after the Kalos region shot it from the sky during their war. (France v Britain is a pretty obvious nod here as Kalos referenced a war and all the Pokémon that fought against Kalos when its depicted all are found in Galar.) Also if the ultimate weapon made mega evolution I would assume that whatever hit Galar could create some other evolution because for Pokémon meteors / comets of infinity energy that has dissipated on the land in the flora and fauna that they eat so instead of inducing some form of evolution it makes Pokémon giant and in some compatible Pokémon still generates some evolution (gigantamax). So after the dust settles the Galar region needs to rebuild and since they probably don't have problems with other regions and may even ally with them they send Pokémon to live in peace and make home in the giant area that was made barren from the war. there's more but I think this could and should be a video just makes sense its a Lockstin rabbit hole that id like to see your spin on.

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Janos1989
Janos1989

The comics have stated that Sonic and Eggman have a psychological dependency on each other and their conflicts. It’s quite unhealthy.

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Ricky Ruocco
Ricky Ruocco

8:33 ima go lie down cause my brain fried

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Alec Willey
Alec Willey

Fun Fact about Sonic (classic sonic that is) is that Sonic alone actually isn't fast. I don't know how fast he is on his own. Sonic's speed actually comes from his shoes, which are enchanted (or something like that). I think Sonic X also sort of addresses this as well in one episode.

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Alec Willey
Alec Willey

@Eminster 2000 Perhaps it depends on the source, considering that there are several different timelines. But from what I looked up, he does have the speed naturally, but can't use that speed without his shoes. Not without consequences anyway. So he still needs his shoes either way.

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Eminster 2000
Eminster 2000

Sonic shoes does not make him fast. His speed is natural

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TOTODILE
TOTODILE

At this point it’s a fact that when sonic chases eggman he slows down on purpose because if sonic catches eggman what is he gonna do kill him that isn’t something sonic would do

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pradhu babu
pradhu babu

eggman's speed it's over 90000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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Dillon Mosher
Dillon Mosher

Well, looks like it's all come full circle. Lockstin is reiterating Game Theory, specifically ones he's debunked.

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ChillQuillz
ChillQuillz

its what they do! they just go

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Camden Thompson
Camden Thompson

after hearing the "eggman has Cybernetic Shoes" argument, it all made sense to me

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DeXЯ
DeXЯ

It's not showed in games I think that eggman is just rolling like a ball

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Jinx The Loose Cannon
Jinx The Loose Cannon

How dare you make me learn these things

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Logannev Gaming
Logannev Gaming

Actually yoshies tounge inst long at all, because Mario is the same size as a turtle and just slightly smaller than yoshi, so really yosbies tounge is short we just see it as long because the game is zoomed in

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My Last Breath is that of Stupidity
My Last Breath is that of Stupidity

My idea is that sonic has the Goku personality trait.

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dragonbanana1
dragonbanana1

how could you? you've become that which you hate

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OtherMomo
OtherMomo

id like to present the idea that on top of his bullet-time reaction speed that makes us percieve him as fast, he is also ridiculously agile. how many somersaults can the best athlete in the world do from a standing jump, in comparison to sonic? have you ever tried to run a loop? your body doesnt like to rotate backwards while moving, and with the magic shoes giving him the traction he needs to stick to walls so long as he's moving, you still need agility and capability to manage that kind of shift in momentum.

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JoAce
JoAce

I have a theory- maybe that the developers word of god is always correct, maybe that they know the characters that they themselves created better then some random dude on the internet trying to cash in on a topic by shoving a controversial “hot take” on it. In all seriousness, this is a good and informative video. But I have a theory that doesn't go against word of god. Sonic is just a cocky jerkass who lets Eggman get to his mechs on purpose because he thinks that Eggman could never win anyways. We have PLENTY of moments of him doing things like that, and he can always get away with it too... because he may be a cocky jerkass, but he's right.

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lazylion games
lazylion games

TFW You're to slow 🙁🔫

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Daniel Huelsman
Daniel Huelsman

This makes me wonder if when Luffy uses Gear Second, he slows down time in his eyes. Or if Peter Parker has been living in slow motion ever since that spider bite.

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Evokip
Evokip

I thought he was game theory AGAIN

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FrozenAxe YT
FrozenAxe YT

“Tails beat me in a race so I beat him with my fists”

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Ryan Dunham
Ryan Dunham

If time perception and computational speed is dependent on the metabolic rate, it would also explain the connection to the 'fat idiot' trope in media. (Patrick Starr, Peter Griffin, etc.) Also, it would explain how a lack of exercise correlates to declining grades.

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Ninja Hombrepalito
Ninja Hombrepalito

Gravity doesn't slow down time, it slows down things so it looks like it is slowing down time. For example, you run slower when you have m,ore weight on you. And not just humans, cars, ships, anything with mass, which includes molecules. Also, speed based on metabolic rate is a correlation. It just happens that animals that move faster tend to have faster metabolic rates. And because they move faster, their brains create different neural pathways to process information faster. Plus, the tiny brain thing you mentioned. Then there are other animals that barely move, so seeing time faster would just be a big waste of relative time for them. So they evolved slower neural pathways.

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Vulpine Deity
Vulpine Deity

Cybernetic legs wouldn't just explain how thin they are, but also their overall bizarre shape.

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LuigiBoi42
LuigiBoi42

RIP Mega Contstrux Pikachu

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Angolo del horror
Angolo del horror

Wait you hot a wife

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CinderChamp #815
CinderChamp #815

f in the chat for lego pikachu

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Mathinus Wolters
Mathinus Wolters

So this is why giants are always ''slow'' To them, they are normal and we are the flies xD Is this also applicable for critical moments in life? As someone who has done many sports and in particular parkour and climbing, time actually felt slower and some times. And tbh, when I listen to extremely fast metal, Japanese or other fast music, all other music seem slower then before. Heck, even watching a new videoclip of 2 minutes can feel like 15minutes the very first time.

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Juan Carlos
Juan Carlos

Didn't you make a video debunking Mat pats game theory on how sonic is actually slow like 7 years ago

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Witherleadermc
Witherleadermc

If its all about relativity then I have one question to ask you... how can sonic run in a loop-dee-loop

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AzraelThanatos
AzraelThanatos

One other thing to consider is that Sonic's displayed speeds are not his actual speed in the games. If you can find them, there are some pretty interesting short clips of the prototype Sonic test level from when they were working out mechanics for the first game. They were largely unplayable because he could move far faster than the human reaction speed could reach, which for a platformer is a problem. His initial speed was either five or ten times faster than what showed up in the game. You have several games where they display an MPH for Sonic, and you also have the cutscenes that show him as much faster than you can play him as. For Robotnik, robotic legs fits, as does a few other theories...and that you'd have a ratings problem for a human getting pummeled.

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richy
richy

Shoes the hedgehog

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D.G0at
D.G0at

I love this theory, it makes a lot of sense. But I guess we see him as super fast because he has the same relative time perception as a hedgehog but at the size of a child and professional standard mastery over his muscles while not minding an 800-mile sprint (same with knuckles; only he likes running less and, as you said, let's him win for his pride or whatever). Which, I guess, is to say that Sonic and co are just animals who have been sized up in absolute relativity to the size of people. Which I guess makes sense as to why Tails is fast, because he's the size of a smaller child than Sonic. Which would also mean Charmy should be extremely fast .-. Okay I stopped typing this comment to have a long Lore crafting brainstorm session on my discord, thanks for the vid man lmfao

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Do Nathan
Do Nathan

Why Sonic is slow: Game mechanics nerf his actual speed

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NotInOrder
NotInOrder

so we know sugar is deadly for Lockstin. Are cows deadly to him too?

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Sovětský Netopýr
Sovětský Netopýr

It may also be that Sonic can control his metabolism, which is why in the film Sonic sees the world faster and sometimes slower. As if, I just think so loud Nothing else Have a good night, everyone

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Proto
Proto

This didn't made sense at all, like, Eggman outrunning sonic in the classic games was just a tool to create tension, plus, none of Sonic's speed feats were talked about, like when he outrunned a black hole in Colors for like 3 seconds before being swallowed

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Spaghetti guy
Spaghetti guy

I think it is because eggman has prosthetic legs

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Ren Ookami
Ren Ookami

1) If eggman could create "slow shoes" (sonic labyrinth) why not speed shoes? That's a good point actually (if his legs can support it) 2) Same for the olympics games, it would make sense for the Sonic cast to wear slow-shoes because fairplay. Just like driving cars it's just a way to get some challenge out of the competition for Sonic. Of course everyone would lose if he was getting serious, but it's no fun. 3) Comedic value. Someone suddenly running away faster than usually possible is a well known joke that happens in most cartoons.

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Hypertox55 Plays
Hypertox55 Plays

2:15 gasp! How Could Say That???

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theiceysonic
theiceysonic

My opinion? Sonic has extremely slow acceleration.

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Naota Kenichi
Naota Kenichi

I don't understand your jump in logic between Sonic's perception of time, and what we see on screen. If Sonic is perceiving everything as slow he'd be seeing Eggman essentially walking in slow motion. But the fact of the matter is Eggman is matching his speed. Seeing them running together gives us a frame of reference. If we assume that Eggman is running at the speed of a average human, that means Sonic was running at human speeds the whole time as well. Sonic wouldn't have the perception that he's faster than humans or other animals if he wasn't, and if his perception of time was really that fast, seeing Eggman match his speed would give the idea that he's really slow, he'd probably have esteem issues since he's perceiving everything in slow motion but can't move much faster in spite of that. So let's say it's the opposite, the high speed we see IS Sonic's perception of time. If he's perceiving things as slow, that means both him and Eggman are even faster than we think. The point is, if had a significantly different perception of time compared to Eggman, it really doesn't matter as it's not giving him the benefit of moving relatively faster than him. Imagine that fly swatter analogy, like a fly that sees us swatting at it in slow motion but can't physically move fast enough to actually utilize that information. Not to mention the fact that as an anthropomophic video game character he's barely aged in 30 years, his metabolism would be closer to that sea turtle.

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Chris Ray
Chris Ray

Has Lockstin read From Bacteria To Bach and Back by Daniel Dennet?

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blazikenowen
blazikenowen

to be fair the comics explain why robotnik is faster then sonic and why his body keeps changing its all cause hes in different robot shells of himself mind sonic is clearly actually fast in the games we've seen feats in the games showing this along with cartoons and comics the only real villian able to properly outrun him is robotnik also in the olympic games stuff clearly sonic is purposely limiting his speed to be fair the one we see in sonic 3 and knuckles the one that actively outruns him quiet abit from what I remember is called robotnik prime

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transfactory
transfactory

This theory is just based on real world hedgehogs Sonic is not a real world hedgehog he is closer to human size and probably has a similar metabolism to professional runners Also the Mario and sonic Olympic games are not cannon and could be explained as sonic and shadow were limited in their speed And it makes sense that eggman would probably carry something that temporarily enhances his speed for emergencies

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Joi Boi
Joi Boi

Because of all the science things he was talking about, I actually forgot I was watching a video about Sonic.

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TBoneTony
TBoneTony

If Sonic can't keep up with Dr Eggman/Robotnik. Then Dr Eggman/Robotnik must be really fast himself.

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Dinker27
Dinker27

I can't wait for an episode covering Radical-6 and time perception.

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