Why Modern Movies Suck - They Hate Their Own Fans

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    The Critical DrinkerThe Critical Drinker

    From Ghostbusters 2016 to Resident Evil to Rings of Power, it seems modern studios just can't stop antagonising their own fans. But is this down to simple incompetence, or is there something deeper going on? Join me as I break down the seedy world of Fan Baiting.

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RYAN KAMINSKI
RYAN KAMINSKI

I was taken aback when I saw Top Gun Maverick in the theater and saw the special message from Tom Cruise at the beginning. He actually thanked fans for coming out to the theater to support his movie. I can't remember the last time a Hollywood actor actually thanked the public. A lot of Hollywood actors just like to lecture fans these days.

Vor 2 Monate
MintyLime
MintyLime

@HiSammy I used to work at a linen cleaning factory and there were plenty of both men and women working there. Most of us were called "linen assistants". Despite being the same title as most others there, I was paid quite a bit more because I had earned it. I was even receiving more pay than the leads, most of which were women. I got paid more because I was the fastest there and very few ever came close to matching my numbers. The leads may have had the more complicated jobs, but in the end I contributed more than they did and pretty often I ended up doing their jobs too. To somebody who sees sexism everywhere they go they may assume I was getting paid more because I'm a guy, but it was because I was the better worker. That's not to say men are on average "better" at their jobs though. It's just that in my case I was far more motivated to get my shit done so I could go home. Didn't even do it for the extra money. But they'll point to instances like mine and cite it as being sexism because it's an easy shortcut to increase their own pay without having to earn it. So no, you don't always get paid the same as someone else in the same position. Sometimes you can even be paid more than someone above you and when it's a man this is often purposely misconstrued as sexism. That's what I got from his comment.

Vor 5 Tage
SyZion Aurifex
SyZion Aurifex

That’s because that was HIS movie. He was one of the leading producers and invested the most into the film. It was his baby

Vor 11 Tage
John Glass
John Glass

Isn't Tom Cruise on the Lolita Express flight logs?

Vor 17 Tage
jojotheg0dofrand0m
jojotheg0dofrand0m

last of an era, bout it

Vor 22 Tage
Tnb Spotter
Tnb Spotter

Crazy Tom Cruise is the voice of reason in this soy dystopia.

Vor 22 Tage
Ac Bower
Ac Bower

I remember when “Alien” came out in theatre (yes, I’m that old) and Sigourney Weever was just a-matter-of-fact lead. No “woman empowerment”, just a woman playing the role superbly

Vor 2 Monate
MintyLime
MintyLime

@Anomander Rake look, gaslighting

Vor 5 Tage
John Wise
John Wise

I loved Xena. She an Hercules were like friendly rivals and not enemies based on gender. They were like one in the same. And Xena was more than just her gender, she was a warrior princess. Feminist actually put women in a box. It defeats its purpose…

Vor 8 Tage
Michael Houston
Michael Houston

@Nick Agriesti that's my recollection too. I wrote a comment just before reading yours saying the buzz about Alien included everything the commenter said was NOT said or done regarding Weaver's pioneering "strong woman" character etc.🤔

Vor 11 Tage
Michael Houston
Michael Houston

I'm "that old" too. I remember it different, they did exactly what you say they didn't. lot's of "strong wamon character" talk,..."historic" etc.,...I'm sure a little research will prove I'm correct if anyone doubts what I say. 😉

Vor 11 Tage
TexMechs
TexMechs

Same for me when I saw Kill Bil. Uma did an amazing job and it's set up where you believe that she really is the greatest killer in this world. If they made it now, she would have probably taken over and not retired to go be a mom.

Vor 13 Tage
ScrambledAndBenedict
ScrambledAndBenedict

You know something that really proves what Drinker is saying? Cobra Kai. It has a massively diverse cast of empowering characters, and both old-time fans and newcomers to the franchise adore it. Why? It doesn't attack fans. It doesn't put down the original cast and still holds them in reverence, even while letting them share the spotlight on equal terms with the new cast. It respects its new actors to treat them as characters instead of pieces of colored meat on a deli counter. And most important of all it's written well. And so far it's made it to Season 5, ran for four years, has been renewed for a sixth season, had zero controversy, has been nominated for two dozen awards, and boasts a 95 critic / 92 audience on Rotten Tomatoes with no signs of slowing down. Shows like Star Wars and 2016 Ghostbusters could have been as beloved by fans as Cobra Kai had they simply had enough faith in their new characters to put them on equal ground with the old cast and make something for their fans as well as newcomers to the series.

Vor Monat
ScrambledAndBenedict
ScrambledAndBenedict

@DJ_KOEN What you have to remember, at the end of the day, is most people are mad that these works are badly done. The whole reason studios make such a big to-do about their "sexist racist" fans is basically a manipulation tactic: It forces critics to choose between defending their own character or defending the movie, and it pressures people into thinking supporting the movie is supporting civil rights issues. Never forget that Disney, the same studio claiming you're a racist for not liking black Ariel, is the same studio who thanked the specific organization that is putting Uyghurs in concentration camps. These studios don't give a fart in a summer wind about helping any groups -- they care about taking your money by feeding a trend and are perfectly willing to call you terrible things if you don't give them your money.

Vor 3 Tage
DJ_KOEN
DJ_KOEN

I knew nick fury was originally white But the actor in the movies was a natural fit so it didn’t bother me And the movies didn’t warp around this fact It was just a normal movie where they inserted the best possible actor for the job Nick fury being white was never important And I actually liked the modern version better Back when i still watched marvel movies

Vor 5 Tage
ScrambledAndBenedict
ScrambledAndBenedict

@SynsityGW It makes me wonder how much money it's actually making. It must be profitable enough for them to have kept doing it for this long, but I just can't imagine how insulting and alienating your target user base can be sustainable. Look at the new Star Wars movies: they sold well but they've had zero effect on pop culture, unlike The Mandalorian that is still talked about to this day. I've seen tons of Mando merch, but I have never see anyone wearing a shirt with Rey on it or having a Kylo Ren bobblehead on their dash. There's enough panic with how they tried to unfuck the new Star Wars trilogy in Rise of Skywalker, and how they cancelled everything Bat Woman related, that makes me think they must be realizing on some level that being mean to their customers isn't a good way to sell a product.

Vor 8 Tage
SynsityGW
SynsityGW

@ScrambledAndBenedict 100% agreed on the last part, but unfortunately we live in a time where it's just safer to work off an existing brand and just hire whoever the fuck to run the show because it'll make money no matter what, whereas trying to find someone who has a genuine vision and who wants to make something unique and memorable is just way harder AND way riskier. Which is why I wish consumers would stop being so fucking lazy and just stop seeing these garbage sequels/remakes/reboots/spin offs. Occasionally one of them lands and that's great, but I think people came to believe that movies having sequels is just the norm. It's occasionally because there's more story to be told, but usually because there's more money to be made.

Vor 14 Tage
ScrambledAndBenedict
ScrambledAndBenedict

@SynsityGW The whole thing with making such a big deal about diverse casting, is they want to put critics in a position where the critic has to choose between "defend their product" or "defend myself". It's why it's so preemptive, and why they make such a big deal out of it before a product they don't have a lot of faith in even launches, and why works that are actually GOOD rarely if ever focus on the diversity of their casting (Cobra Kai, old MCU, Arcane, The Mandalorian, etc). If the folks behind things like Rings of Power or the 2016 Ghostbusters or Resident Evil could defend the actual quality of those works, they would, because even if they were actually RIGHT about people criticizing their works just being sexist racists, the thing is these critics are raising valid complaints about these works that the creators have no retort to whatsoever. At the end of the day, my belief is if you want to adapt a work, you tell their story. If you want to tell your own story, tell your own story. It's why I'm so heavily critical of The Last Jedi: "doing your own thing" and "subverting the genre" was NOT the thing to do halfway through someone else's trilogy, especially when that trilogy is part of a trilogy of trilogies.

Vor 14 Tage
Spence Space
Spence Space

The thing that made me so angry is the thought that if any of this ended up being said in front of a crowd like at a Q&A at some panel the audience would boo the hell out of him. Not even because they disagree but because that's how they've been wired to react. It's just so damn sad and infuriating.

Vor 2 Monate
Wayy
Wayy

@MintyLime that's what I'm saying. We share a collective consciousness all of our ideas are not ours exclusively they are a product of the collective. Culture, Teaching, Reading, Watching Listening, etc. You can't come up with one original idea because if a human being is coming up with it nothing about it is original.

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MintyLime
MintyLime

@Wayy Just because your thoughts aren't original doesn't always mean it didn't come from you. Lots of things have been done already. You can't make a piece of music that contains a string of notes that have never been used. But you can still make a song nobody's ever heard.

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MintyLime
MintyLime

@Zetsubou-Sensei Exactly. And sometimes just because you changed your mind because of the environment doesn't mean it manipulated you; rather it could mean you manipulated yourself and became something of your own. It's just that it set you on that path. It's a fine line between falling for propaganda and genuine thought, but if you find that line it becomes much easier to determine what you actually think and what you've been told to think. Not to turn this into a religious discussion but it's the example I'm gonna use because it's my own. I was raised as a Catholic. I wasn't really that invested in it but i was forced to go to church every Sunday and Wednesday school for like 2 or 3 hours. I did believe in hell and was terrified of it. Had it not been for the threat of hell I likely would've ignored it all from the start. It never even occurred to me that it's possible to not believe in a faith because that meant hell. One day when I was 11 I actually listened to the church sermon and started figuring out some things. The way they used hell almost as though it was a threat, and not long after the donation box came around. I understood that I was being scared into believing this stuff and other than hell I didn't really care about the rest. But I wasn't interested in believing in another faith, so what was the alternative? I had no idea, but I chose to be agnostic for a bit and then atheist without even knowing what those things were called. For a time I didn't even think there were others like me. I emphasize that part because that's where the line is. I came to that conclusion on my own, although I'm sure my family would've accused me of following the devil or something. They likely would've believed I learned to think that way from others, but I hadn't. But if I had then I'd have to clarify with myself whether or not what they had said is what I genuinely believe, and that's the tricky part. Were you truly convinced, or were you just being told what you wanted to hear? But it works the other way, too. Do I believe what I now believe just because of that particular sermon? In other words, am I allowing my old Catholic beliefs to still control what I think now? Over time I found the answer to be no in my case, but some people find that they've overcorrected.

Vor 5 Tage
Adamphibia Kalboonchuy
Adamphibia Kalboonchuy

Denial is a heck of a drug. An invisible, mental drug that is a mindset instead of a pill.

Vor 22 Tage
Zetsubou-Sensei
Zetsubou-Sensei

@Wayy While it's true that our environment and human nature do everything in their power to keep you from thinking for yourself, you do still have the ability to do it. You just have to learn HOW to do it first. You can break out of it and have opinions of your own, no matter how much they try to take away your ability to do so. It just takes a while to train yourself to catch yourself doing it and change the behavior.

Vor Monat
greyfox37
greyfox37

I've been saying this for nearly seven years and you nailed it in the coffin, Drinker. I've always said that these reviewers and fans are liking modern crap based on two things: They love to humiliate true fans by pretending to like crap today in some sick form of revenge game against their "opposition" and the second, they know it's crap, they know it sucks, but they will not admit it out of fear of being called a monster by their peers.

Vor 2 Monate
Kyhec
Kyhec

Goated comment

Vor 20 Tage
Galaxis
Galaxis

It's like "Christian Rock" from the 90s. Everyone knew it was utter crap, but the Biblists had their agenda to take the minds of the youth; so, they did whatever they could think of. Pure propaganda, zero integrity.

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North Buster
North Buster

They're creating movies for an audience that doesn't exist. Drinker, you nailed it.

Vor 2 Monate
srry
srry

@I Be Marvel The issue is that a lot of these products, being reboots or continuations of an established franchise, are simply not developed with high quality & artistry as their #1 priority, because they've already got an audience who will tune in based on franchise recognition alone. Producing a truly great movie or TV show involves taking on RISK, which studios are highly averse to since the outcome is so unpredictable and it'll hurt their bottom line if the gamble doesn't pay off. That is why this happens. "The message" is a separate issue that becomes more apparent because the quality of the underlying product is so low. There's also an indirect correlation between quality and profits. Casual viewers and more importantly KIDS often just don't notice when something fundamentally sucks as long as it ticks off items on a checklist. And honestly, the standard of quality in big-budget productions has been so low for so long that younger audiences no longer even know what they're missing. They grew up watching garbage, and they like it.

Vor 29 Tage
Womenhave HiveMind
Womenhave HiveMind

@Matthew Mekonis Lol go and learn the meaning of incel 1st soyboy

Vor Monat
Rise65487
Rise65487

@kotzpenner gotta keep that score high otherwise uncle bill and papa-schwab might not invest money into your product

Vor Monat
kotzpenner
kotzpenner

@Rise65487 It's all about that GSC Score

Vor Monat
maddie
maddie

This hits the nail on the head. They don't actually care about pushing any specific narrative, and they aren't actually "activists". They are just greedy capitalists, they want to make the most money possible. They just want to make fans mad and generate controversy and therefor attention, and they don't care about what they do to the material in the process.

Vor Monat
Kazik Majster
Kazik Majster

*This video perfectly sums up everything happening with pop-culture nowadays. This is the best Drinker video out there.*

Vor 2 Monate
Marek Głogowski
Marek Głogowski

Dokładnie tak. Tłoczą to ścierwo gebelsoskiej propagandy od paru ładnych lat aż się rzygać chce.

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Josh Lewis
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The two extremes of this is Top Gun, and Star Wars. Top Gun had a message thanking fans before the movie even started. Star Wars had Mark Hamill throw away a lightsaber.

Vor 2 Monate
Tiglish Nobody
Tiglish Nobody

@Machu Pikachu If this is true then it work. Even Propaganda could be successful if it well written lol.

Vor 20 Tage
a a
a a

​@Machu Pikachu Interesting. Well I still don't have a problem with that. Same thing with advertising brands, etc. in movies and Star Wars selling lightsabers outside the theater.... movies about cops/fireman etc. probably see a surge in applicants if the movie is cool. Nobody cares if movies are advertising something, or Companies pickup on the hype to advertisement (hell cereal/chips, etc. do this all the time). What made the movie great outside of the action, cinematics, is we didn't have stupid ass SJW/PC messaging thrown throughout the movie and rubbed in our face 24/7.... see Disney, the women are powerful literally SAID in the movie, LGBTQ crap thrown in throughout, men are stupid, etc. etc. This movie didn't go there. That's my point. I was just waiting for the female pilot to say, "See, told you women are just as good as men" ... or the black pilot to start spitting rap lyrics while saying something stupid like, "These white boys can't fly..." and it never came (Thank God). Couldn't care less if the Navy wants to recruit people after a movie. Who gives a crap? What I didn't get in the movie was the Navy saying "Join the Navy, make a difference because Muslims are evil.... and only lesbos join, and we need more women because they are strong and there's too many men in the Navy. And black people are just as good at flying so make sure they join too!" That's what we would've gotten with Disney. And the public is flipping fed up with it. Notice how NFL has cut back big time on politics, etc. Yah, their ratings were going down. I'm sitting down to be entertained, not lectured on what I should find acceptable and shamed for not thinking a certain way.

Vor 27 Tage
Machu Pikachu
Machu Pikachu

@a a Dude, Jonathan is serious. Navy recruiters literally set up tents outside movie theaters showing Top Gun and recruited thousands on their way out of the movie.

Vor 27 Tage
benjamint
benjamint

@cytized why is that? Because people don't realise that aircraft carriers and the planes on them are operated by the Navy, not airforce?

Vor 29 Tage
cytized
cytized

Top Gun is the best recruitment video the Navy could have made for the Air Force.

Vor 29 Tage
A S
A S

Literally one of the single most important videos ever uploaded to this platform. Thank you so much for posting this fine dissection of contemporary pop culture and its pitfalls, sir!

Vor Monat
Solo Renegade
Solo Renegade

"Why Modern Movies Suck - They Hate Their Own Fans" sums it up perfectly

Vor Monat
Whitefox
Whitefox

If it weren’t for people like Critical Drinker, Friday Night Tights etc, I think I’d honestly just be gaslit into thinking I’m the only one who thinks the way I do. I’m so thankful for these creators.

Vor 2 Monate
RHOYDPLAZ
RHOYDPLAZ

@Mark Jensen same

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Herstory
Herstory

@Zarin Kai And if I'm a POC who doesn't like being pandered to, you gonna call me the n-word and tell me to get back to my proper place?

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂🤣😂

Vor 2 Monate
Adrian Denton
Adrian Denton

@Whitefox I haven't studied politics for nearly 20 years now so I guess I'm behind with a lot of this. I know the world (especially Europe) has lurched to the right so what we once thought was right is now the norm...I'm guessing economic crashes, invasions, media scaring and other things dont help...ah the 90s.

Vor 2 Monate
Whitefox
Whitefox

@Adrian Denton No I'm from South Africa. All I'm saying is the definition of liberal has changed a great deal over the last two decades. If you're what is considered liberal (progressive) today, you believe that some people require "more" representation than others, owing to identitarian markers like gender or race. Which is in stark contrast to everybody having a fair shot. That is an important determinant of a modern liberal. But you are of course right, not everything is black and white. I'm not saying you're conservative on all issues, but that one, again, is an important one for modern liberals. I still considered myself a liberal up till like two years ago when I realized that the liberals of even the 2000's are conservative in comparison to the affirmative action identitarians of the modern progressive landscape. Equal opportunity, versus equal outcome.

Vor 2 Monate
Aaron Money
Aaron Money

I’m honestly not interested in the garbage created nowadays by film and television studios. At the same time I really appreciate content like yours which is actually entertaining and thought provoking. Thank you for helping me preserve my sanity in these trying times.

Vor 2 Monate
Steve Anton
Steve Anton

Others have said it, but it must be reiterated that this is definitely one of those videos that needs to be seen by as many people as possible. Drinker you've nailed it as always my friend!

Vor 24 Tage
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Yohannes Sulistyo
Yohannes Sulistyo

I sat next to my sister when she watched "girly movie" of "Sisterhood of Traveling Pants" - it is a romance drama clearly not marketed towards men. But this film simply offers a compelling story. Of course the main characters of this film is the girl groupie has a "silly ritual" and their "traveling pants" gimmick, but it was presented in a way that it emotionally suck you in and give you the actual feels - because well, men have feelings too, and girl stories are human stories too. The men characters are side characters here, and everything is compellingly presented from the female perspective and point of view. I don't feel their concern or worries to be "whiny" or even cringey at all. It maybe nothing special, but a neat film that tells a good heartwarming story about western female friendships. Ghostbusters 2016 is simply bad in every aspect, the lazy joke, and the annoying recycled characters (why can't they just be a fresh new characters like how the cartoon did) - and then there is the big question: how are these guys friends for real? They are not presenting any compelling story, and you can tell that they are just acting it out like overpaid pretentious comedian doing multi million dollar silver screen project. It is hard not getting cynical when they tried waay too hard to be funny. They don't feel like real people. The male characters are annoying as hell, and it is quite a miracle why they don't give the "empowered" females a chance to really kick their arses. Since everyone in the movie are awful, there is simply no redeeming quality here. While the billionaire-backed western media lauded the movie out of political peer pressure or whitewash their funding source controversies, I started to learn to ignore them. It is a capitalist product that uses feminism and progressive politics as a marketing crutch. I just wish these socio-political influence peddlers has as much integrity as their tree-hugging counterparts. They gladly accept the paycheck and money invested by "partiarchy-dominated" industry and yet whined for profits to their indifferent corporate sponsors on behalf of feminism. If anything good can be taken from the pandemic is how the industry is being brought to its heels, and how a lot of gullible consumers are getting used to not having to see a "movie" every single week and be more selective about their consumption choice.

Vor 27 Tage
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Mat Roqueta
Mat Roqueta

It surprised me that House of the Dragon of all shows was the one that did diverse casting right. The Velaryons are black and to me they are the most interesting noble house introduced in the series. Since they hail from Essos and have since lived in the islands of the narrow sea instead of the mainland it makes perfect sense for them to be ethnically different from other westerosi characters, their skin tone is consistent with many other esossi characters we have seen before in the Game of Thrones franchise. The ethnic difference adds to the viewer's experiencing of the story because it highlights that they have a very different history from other westerosi houses. It makes it easy to see how their different history leads to different values and concerns, which in turn makes any tension between them and the throne feel natural. But most importantly of all, I never saw HotD promotional material advertise or flaunt their diverse casting as a selling point for their show.

Vor Monat
SynsityGW
SynsityGW

@Mat Roqueta It is a little weird... but we don't know how the climate/sun works all that well in asoiaf. Also Valyrians may have just conquered Valyria, or perhaps have some sort of albinism.

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Mat Roqueta
Mat Roqueta

@SynsityGW It actually made me think that it was weird for the Targs themselves to be ultra pale to begin with. Based on where Valyria was located geographically they shouldn't be too ethnically different from characters like Grey Worm, Missandei, or Hizdhar zo Loraq, right?

Vor 15 Tage
SynsityGW
SynsityGW

@bcf 123 It was already incredibly obvious in the source material as when Valyrians produce offspring they come out Valyrian, it would be basically impossible for them to have dark hair and brown eyes. Whereas racially mixed babies can turn out all sorts of ways. Louis CK is half mexican and the guy is a fat white ginger

Vor 16 Tage
SynsityGW
SynsityGW

@Xavier Benjamin That might be the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard lol. Imagine thinking audiences are so fucking stupid that they would get too confused about characters because they have the same skin color. You know, like how everyone confused Gandalf for Saruman, or how the Bagginses were always confused with the Gamgee's, or how everyone confused the Starks with the Baratheons. If people are that stupid, they would be incapable of following the story anyways.

Vor 16 Tage
SynsityGW
SynsityGW

Race bending the Velaryons makes no sense. They are Valyrian blood, which is a race. That's why Targaryens wed them so frequently. Aegon the conqueror's mother is a Velaryon. They wed them so frequently to preserve the racial purity of their bloodline, a big part of which is physical characteristics (silver hair, purple eyes, pale skin). The idea that Targaryens would choose the only black family north of the Summer Isles is nothing short of preposterous, and the fact that all of the Targaryen characters have pale skin despite this happening for generations has zero logical consistency. That said, it didn't matter to many fans (myself included), because it wasn't a focal point of advertising and the direction of the show. It's a bit jarring, but then you just kind of ignore it and focus on the story, which they clearly put first and foremost and it shows. It's a perfect example of doing diversity right because very few people actually get mad at diversity for diversity's sake, they get mad at diversity in place of a good story. Me and many other fans are simply willing to look the other way if you just write a good story because at the end of the day, what the characters look like is not really that important, and you can kind of laugh off the logistical inconsistency of it and enjoy the show if the writing is good enough, which in this case it was. I will be watching the second season.

Vor 16 Tage
Luke Deehan
Luke Deehan

I think it's quite funny how Amazon makes the Boys, which intentionally parodies stuff like this, yet they also make shit like rings of power at the same time

Vor 2 Monate
Elizabeth McDaniel
Elizabeth McDaniel

Thank you so much for saying this. I feel like everyone around is so happy to be force fed horrible content and I can’t say a word against it for the reasons you mentioned it. I also lack the eloquence to explain it half as well as you have, which is why I appreciate this so much. It’s so upsetting as a fan who really does want to see new content that is actually good and to constantly be disappointed while the masses rave about how much greater everything is for these shallow, half-assed reasons. And I feel like it’s only going to get worse. If I have any advice, it’s to quit watching American made media.

Vor Monat
David Shillaker
David Shillaker

I think that some directors and producers are finally starting to wake up to this problem. It is far from being addressed at large, but there is some light, I think. The Northman was fantastic. The Batman was the best one in the franchise. It's films like this and few others that are giving me hope again that films will be made for the sake of producing top quality work that people will gladly go back and watch again.

Vor 2 Monate
greatredchicken
greatredchicken

The Northman was barely a 6/10, it's just that it at least isn't a 1/10 like everything nowadays

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Danny1775

I watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy. When I heard that the Tolkien family didn't endorse the films, I knew something was wrong. The Fellowship of the Ring was just okay and the movies got progressively worse. From almost everyone, other than the Fellowship, being less heroic than they were in the books to Elrond (Half-elven) not wanting his daughter to marry Aragorn the storyline sucked. I'm not sure if Peter Jackson even read the books. The Hobbit movies were even worse.

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The Omega Potato
The Omega Potato

This is why I respect the creators of Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul because at the end both the actors and the writers/producers thanked their fans for sticking with them for so long. When you create good product people will generally praise it, who would've thought?

Vor 2 Monate
supdude69
supdude69

Watching the end of Better Call Saul recently, it really made me realize how much we need to finally get off the Disney train. We all deserve better fiction than what Disney has been churning out. It's just a shame Disney pretty much has a stranglehold on big budget fiction.

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Phil Ashley
Phil Ashley

Ewwww what a shitty show

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BatMaster Yoda

Say my name

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Lucas Coval
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@Geralt Of Rivia Man in the Middle caught in this crazy thing called life.

Vor 2 Monate
Vlad Ivanov
Vlad Ivanov

I was also surprised to find Better Call Saul is basically devoid of 'diversity' throughout. How did they get away with it without attracting the locusts? It's become such a mandatory part of the bizz at this point, there has to be a catch.

Vor 2 Monate
Valarien777
Valarien777

"Somehow, through some kind of Lovecraftian manipulation and absolute stupidity..." - that's absolutely classic! You pretty much describe all the garbage that's been ruining so many beloved IP's in the last couple of decades, especially in recent years; and explains very well what these disrespectful studios and inept show runners have been doing for some time now. It really makes no good sense to destroy the source material, piss off the existing fanbase, make stuff they'll hate, all for socio-political agendas that have nothing to do with real art. Well said Critical Drinker!

Vor 2 Monate
Paradigm7977
Paradigm7977

I absolutely used to love going to the theater and seeing a new movie that I was really excited for. That hasn't happened in years. The last amazing movie I saw in theatres was "inception" for the 10 year anniversary showing.

Vor Monat
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Vor 27 Tage
bastiat
bastiat

i remember being a kid and thinking winston was cool egon was smart akroy was the comic relief and bill murray was the heart and attitude. i remember seeing ghost busters 2016 and thinking if i leave before it ends i can get a refund.

Vor 2 Monate
Blue DeskFan
Blue DeskFan

Got to say I watch a lot more analysis of modern films like this then the actual shows. I wouldn't dream of watching a Star Wars, Marvel or Bond movie now. Which is quite a flip because I once had ambitions to actually make films like that.

Vor 2 Monate
Spark Maker
Spark Maker

The best counter example of the “fans are toxic and hate women and POCs” argument is Rogue One, which coincidentally released the same year as the Ghostbusters reboot. Rogue One is nearly universally loved by Star Wars fans, who generally agree that it’s the best thing Disney has done with Star Wars. This, despite having a female lead, her team which consists solely of POCs, her black mentor, and virtually every villain being a white male. Evidently fans really are more concerned with a good story than the makeup of the characters, and will eagerly support well-written females and POCs.

Vor 2 Monate
Ronak Choudhary
Ronak Choudhary

You pointed out something I never noticed, the villains were all white and the heroes were diverse. I liked the story so I never noticed.

Vor 5 Tage
J W
J W

To add to this, Rogue One is easily in the top 3 best Star Wars movies, and that includes TV shows

Vor 14 Tage
thinkwithurdipstick
thinkwithurdipstick

Well I hate Saw Guerrera, but other than that sure

Vor 14 Tage
13orrax
13orrax

Rogue one was the movie I was expecting episode 1 to be back in 99

Vor 15 Tage
Paul Conway
Paul Conway

@Chilli Ripley still kept her femininity and was realistic. Now they are toxic and force a masculine identity.

Vor Monat
Frank Brislin
Frank Brislin

11:05 One good example of an adaptation done right was 'The Wiz'. They gave it a different title, made it their own, and it was a delight to watch.

Vor Monat
Rui Ferreira
Rui Ferreira

I found it very suspiscious and wierd that every bit of information that got out about the ROP show was like the perfect scenario to fuel controversy and debate, from the "super fans" to the reveal of diverse cast, misleading posters, the "sex educator", "beta elrond" etc. Instead on teasing some of the good things that the show actually has, they teased controversy. All of that was part of Amazon's big plan to increase social media engagment and controversy of the show, they probably made the money back before the show even aired.

Vor 2 Monate
Kyle DeWitt
Kyle DeWitt

Just makes me appreciate the good modern movies even more. Everything Everywhere All At Once is a prime example.

Vor 2 Monate
Symbiote Soda
Symbiote Soda

Something I found interesting is that the female dwarves didn't have beards, despite the fact that it's said in the book (if I remember correctly) that they do.

Vor Monat
Knju1 MonsterHunt
Knju1 MonsterHunt

"Modern movies hate their own fans." Drinker, that was *never* lost on us.

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂🤣😂

Vor 2 Monate
Uncle Dandy
Uncle Dandy

@Jo Jo the “big guys” as you refer to them are not lgbt white men, they are small hats.

Vor 2 Monate
Archangel
Archangel

Worse than hating their fans, they hate the white race. Media, entertainment and academia are all viciously antiwhite.

Vor 2 Monate
Normad Garmez
Normad Garmez

That's been known for a while, but thanks to the internet it exposes the ugly face on how the people running the entertainment industries really feel. Hate, disgust... and greed.

Vor 2 Monate
Acesahn
Acesahn

@Tommy Slavic Is that out yet? I have it on my 'To Watch' list right next to the Urusei Yatsura remake, Spy X Spy season 2, Basturd!! and Eminence in Shadow

Vor 2 Monate
jeffrey melton
jeffrey melton

Damn man. You are such a good writer in your own right. Every video that I watch of yours is so well written and delivered

Vor 2 Monate
Tridium Master
Tridium Master

This would explain why I have gone to the theater 3 times in the last 6 years. In the early 00s and 90 and even 80s as a kid I would go up to 4 times a month and almost everything was good. Of the 3 I saw in 6 years I only enjoyed End Game. Love live Tony.

Vor Monat
Insanity 8992
Insanity 8992

To make things more simple: “they are trying to get audiences that don’t like these kind of movies by changing into stuff they like, but they will still not watch it and in the process you lose the audience you already had before, which is similar to what Blizzard did with WOW”

Vor Monat
Þulr Óðinsson
Þulr Óðinsson

Yep, a lot of films have focused on politicizing over quality. I understand wanting to add diversity to films and shows, but you hit the nail on the head: Quit race and gender swapping; if you want to add diversity, create new material!

Vor 2 Monate
Ryley Hayes
Ryley Hayes

Can we have a moment of appreciation for Dune managing to avoid all this shit by simply being good?

Vor 2 Monate
Susan Cook
Susan Cook

@Y K I thought the movie was well made but it wasn't Frank Herbert's "DUNE"; it was more the director's interpretation of "DUNE". Having read the books, I noticed a lot of Herbert's dialog (which I felt meaningfully important) was missing in the latest iteration. Key example: "I'll miss the sea but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing them to grow. Without change, something sleeps within us, and seldom awakens." ! ~ Duke Leto's advice to his son, Paul, as they readied themselves to go to Arrakis. What we got instead was dialogue that was ultimately less than meaningful.

Vor Monat
evan Ellis
evan Ellis

@CountZero78 offended by non white people existing in movies? Lmao go cry about it snowflake

Vor Monat
Brent Ives
Brent Ives

@J.P. Wick You're lecturing people on culture and can't even spell "In" correctly. Thanks for the chortle.

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂🤣

Vor 2 Monate
Bir Love
Bir Love

@KajiCarson Thanks for your thoughts, glad you enjoyed it so much! Oh yeah I'll watch the second one too, but just because it's definitely worth a watch (on the computer).. if you wanna know a movie that blew me away, Blade Runner 2049 - now I was not expecting that masterpiece.

Vor 2 Monate
walter haider
walter haider

I would rather trump over a second female ghost busters. There I said it. Here's your political statement Hollywood. Thanks for telling us about this Drinker, love your content. I thought my brother and I were the only ones who can see what media has become. Edit: I don't care if a character has a black, white, purple or green artor or if they have a yooho or chagiger. If 👏 they're 👏 a 👏 we'll 👏 written 👏 character 👏 I'll 👏 like it 👏 👏 👏. Edit edit: (writing as I watch) Drows (!!!dark elves!!!) have dark skin. If there was a white pale as snow actor playing a drow. would it be just as progressive to have a Asian actor playing a Mexican bandit in a spaghetti western.

Vor Monat
John Paul Jones
John Paul Jones

Its actually a good thing as it makes us more present in reality than in our TVs.

Vor Monat
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Nature and Physics
Nature and Physics

Something I've noticed about contemporary movies: the dialogue is often so paltry that I watch the film at double speed but not miss a thing. I think the first film I saw like that was _Heaven_ where Cate Blanchett sat there and stared for 15 minutes.

Vor Monat
Mr.Sandwich
Mr.Sandwich

i really love this channel. it neatly verbalizes how ive felt about modern movies for years

Vor Monat
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Vor 27 Tage
🇷🇺Jesus Christ is Lord
🇷🇺Jesus Christ is Lord

they're not creating anything, they're just destroying everything creative.

Vor 2 Monate
joeodd2
joeodd2

@Bobby Bob-omb If you put your opinion in a public space, you're asking for criticism, same as art or anything else made public. This video is garbage, and I hold the people who hold its opinion in the same regard. And I love how you look around and declare you're with the "normal people." Please check your sanctimony if you're taking the time to argue with someone on a YouTube video about fictitious characters. That is all.

Vor Monat
Riga Students Rent
Riga Students Rent

Thats the plan

Vor Monat
Bobby Bob-omb
Bobby Bob-omb

@joeodd2 As if Jesus’ skin tone was ever defined prior. Regardless it’s more than probable that a Jewish man born under the Roman Empire was of lighter skin. As if that really mattered to someone like you who definitely doesn’t share the ideals of the people you fail to counter the arguments of. Also your other comments are fun perversions that demonstrate a complete lack of comprehension skills. As not only do they show you never listened to or watched this video, but you also didn’t really read these comments with the context of the video in mind. Just like the very people described in the video you create a false narrative about people you’ve never met by “attempting” to pervert genuine arguments into ancient and unpopular ideals like “racism”, because you are the knight in white armor who must slay all who hold different opinions than you with your inelegant and spineless arguments. Everyone’s already made up their minds on you, it’s why pretty much no one has responded to you. Don’t expect any more attention, because the video itself already shines enough light onto your fragile persona. The normal people are done watching your act, ok?

Vor Monat
Bobby Bob-omb
Bobby Bob-omb

@chris sonofpear1 Go cope over religious people existing by yourself, the rest of us atheists want nothing to do with your malicious cherry picking and misinterpretation lmfao.

Vor Monat
W. Adams
W. Adams

For christ sake, let me like this comment here..

Vor Monat
Pascal
Pascal

I actually like the new Lord of the Rings, and appreciate the new Obi-Wan show as a step in the right direction (as in, both of these shows are like 7/10 for me -- good but not great), but I do agree with about 70% of what's being said here. There is too much of this going on, and some fan baiting does seem to be occurring. I also think that the US is diverse for reasons of migration, slavery, and immigration, not something that just happened, so creating a racially diverse city in a fantasy setting should coincide with some explanation as to why. For example, ancient Alexandria, during the Ptolemaic period, was a very diverse city due to being a trading hub. This is historically something verifiable and explanatory. I think Amazon could put some effort into explaining why a black elf might be there since a lot of the Lord of the Rings world is veiled in mystery and remains unexplained, and there is a chance for freedom of storytelling. Just my 0.05.

Vor 2 Monate
[Crypto] Soldier
[Crypto] Soldier

Totally agree, some great examples from the past of re-culturizing or updating a great film/story are Seven Samurai -> Magnificent Seven and Conrad's Heart of Darkness -> Apocalypse Now. These were done well and did not infringe on the original stories or media. Instead of having Western samurai walking around in a remake, they re-told the story with new characters in a completely new setting and culture.

Vor 22 Tage
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Vor 18 Tage
Bilskirnir3124
Bilskirnir3124

You know, it strikes me that a lot of this could have been avoided with a small amount of creative thought. As others have pointed out Harad, Khand, Rhun, and Umbar all had mentions of dark or, to quote the text, "men of swarthy complexion." However, much like the rumor of the introduction of the X-Men, I mean, Mutants, excuse me, being Deadpool showing up and just saying, "Hey guys, DP here. Did you know we have Mutants now?" and then vanishing, it would require the writing room to have more collective creativity than a peace lily for them to sieze on the creative constraints of the world they're working within as catalysts for new and interesting storries. Instead they look at the constraints and say, "That sign can't stop me. I can't read," and plow on pumping out garden variety shlock, "film," after, "a product similar to but legaly distinct from a film."

Vor 2 Monate
GenZcurmudgeon
GenZcurmudgeon

The diversity in rings of power is downright confusing at times. “Wait, that old white dude is that Mexican chicks father? She’s adopted I guess?” “Oh that’s Noris mom, not her auntie. They look nothing alike and she’s black so I just assumed”

Vor 2 Monate
Thomas Adams
Thomas Adams

LOTR is entertaining but you're right. Doesn't make sense. Like they slapped on a black female just say "hey look how diverse we are". At least get black female actor that looks somewhat like the king.

Vor 2 Monate
Charming Peasant
Charming Peasant

I love how Twitter anti-capitalists all of sudden become the biggest corporate shills when these manufactured controversies get created that portray fans as bigots.

Vor 2 Monate
Hells Only
Hells Only

How is it shilling when explaining how corporations work?

Vor Monat
Nick Agriesti
Nick Agriesti

You are a bigot if your only objection is that the actor playing a character has a skin color you disapprove of.

Vor Monat
zandorando
zandorando

Twitter is a dumpster

Vor Monat
The13thRonin
The13thRonin

It wasn't real capitalism. Real capitalism has never been tried.

Vor 2 Monate
lol i like dragons
lol i like dragons

@awful. products. literaly was wondering why my friends on the most basic level sound like an advertisement on twitter. Now i know why. Twitter is nothing more then a platform to manafacture whatever lie you can think of.

Vor 2 Monate
Aneesa Hendricks
Aneesa Hendricks

Prey was actually one of the few female led movies that was good. The protagonist had to work hard to get to where she was. She was never shown as stronger or better than the men but showed her ability to overcome her obstacles and beat the predator

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The Watcher
The Watcher

There are 2 main problems: 1) they are using people to adapt original works who haven't the slightest regard for the material. Look at Preacher as a prime example. 2) movies / shows become little more than vehicles for whatever cause the writer is desperate to espouse. See all of the most recent MCU output, Peacemaker, Star Wars etc. etc.

Vor 2 Monate
Tetrapharmakos
Tetrapharmakos

In the comic book industry there's a saying: "An angry reader is an engaged reader."

Vor Monat
stuart andersen
stuart andersen

Well said good sir!! Instead of accepting that they messed up their show/movie they instead turn on the fans and blame them for not accepting the change!

Vor 2 Monate
Corporate Billionaire
Corporate Billionaire

When Morbius screamed "Black lives matter", then bit Sauron in the balls in Rings of Power.......man that scene made me cry

Vor 2 Monate
Buddy
Buddy

"stop morbin all over the place" was my favorite chorus of the series

Vor Monat
antokent
antokent

@James Neese I think they prefer to be called "alphabet people"

Vor Monat
Weymint
Weymint

I was literally orgasmic during that scene

Vor Monat
bastiat
bastiat

took em right off and then liver king ran in and said ya ya boy to cheer him on brought a tear to my eye.

Vor 2 Monate
ifStatement ifStatement
ifStatement ifStatement

LOL

Vor 2 Monate
David M. Kelly
David M. Kelly

I've been saying this a long time. Glad other people are finally noticing. Great dissection of this ongoing problem. As others have said, the only way to stop it is vote with your money.

Vor Monat
The clubof.info Blog
The clubof.info Blog

with regard to the Rings of Power, the diversity makes it fail because Tolkien was a reactionary and he is explicit not only in stating that these fictional kingdoms (Elves, Numenoreans) are not diverse and are hostile to outsiders, but he makes it essential to the story so it doesn't work without that aspect. Sauron in Tolkien's writing hates the Numenoreans, their blood and their descendants, regardless of whether they claim a Numenorean culture - this is why Sauron wanted to kill Aragorn even when he had forsaken his right to be king. Having the Numenoreans be defined by a culture and all different races join it in a kind of medieval version of America actually just means the story is scrambled and makes no sense

Vor Monat
benjamint
benjamint

at first i was thinking "never attribute malice where you could instead attribute incompetence" but by the end of the video i realised youre right... in this case it's both!

Vor Monat
Secret Squirrel
Secret Squirrel

This approach to movies always disappoints me more than anything. I want greats shows and movies as an escape in what ever story they are telling. Only to have real world, made up politicism shoved down your throat. Look at all the brilliant movies that don't make a song and dance about it, but are both great movies and inclusive = anything by quentin tarantino. Heaps of diversity and each character is brilliant! One that disney got right and is loaded quite rightly = The Mandalorian. All colours and sex's represented and all brilliant characters! BUT as this video accurately points out and my biggest gripe with movies these days. The above are examples of original material. So you don't have existing expectations from the source material. They are set in the multiverse! Are they so unimaginative or lack resources that all they can think of these days. Is to poorly remake great movies/franchise's but with flipped gender/race characters?

Vor 2 Monate
PixelSubstream
PixelSubstream

The most annoying aspect of fan baiting is it teaches people "don't be like those angry fans getting angry over dumb details, just shut your brain off and enjoy the show."

Vor 2 Monate
Wulf
Wulf

"don't be like those angry fans getting angry over dumb details, just ignore the whole show and never give them money for what they've done, boycott the whole lot and let their industry die from neglect."

Vor 2 Monate
hawkeye5955
hawkeye5955

@maciejz3: I think it's pretty sad that particular portion of the SW fans are desperate for new movies/shows that they don't care if it's bad. I'd rather not have any new stuff if it tarnishes the legacy of the franchise.

Vor 2 Monate
Justice Wokeisutterbs
Justice Wokeisutterbs

@ZetZet You don't get it. The discussion was about shutting your brain off so that you don't think about how amazon has produced what amounts to a bloated, bad fanfic without the respect for the original work that even very bad fanfic has, and that Amazon is using it both to shove it's favorite woke bullSchiff down the viewers' throats and to piss in the faces of J.R.R. Tolkien as well as those who appreciate his work. My point was that even turning off your brain doesn't dim your awareness of this. If they had made this thing as an original fantasy they could have used all the same elements: elves, dwarves, dragons, orcs, rings and dark lord's, and they could have made absolutely everything a radically feminist, LGBTetc, BIPOC, intersectional socialist stew and no one would batted an eye. Putting Tolkien's name on it makes comparisons inevitable and Rings of Power is twaddle compared to what Tolkien wrote. Some of the dialogue is laughable. It's just a bad joke no matter how you try not to think about it.

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂🤣😂

Vor 2 Monate
Master Stacker
Master Stacker

@Carlos From the womb until you entomb.

Vor 2 Monate
Libor Rajm
Libor Rajm

I am curious if this tactics really works for them though?.. and if so, for how long it will..? I can only speak for myself of course, but what this whole drama around these huge movie/show premieres over the past years does to me is that it basically kills my interest (nevermind excitement).. I just find the constant talks and battles about the cast and artistic choices boring and/or tiring.. and even if I had initially considered watching the stuff, in the end I no longer care and just skip it completely. Thinking back, I am grateful for living through years where I was consistently able to find great content that was promoted by the quality of its story, I'd hear about it from friends, we would discuss the story and quality of the craft, and there was genuine interest and excitement...

Vor Monat
Sam Moss
Sam Moss

Fascinating video, really demonstrates how internet bubbles affect your perception of events. The retelling of ghostbusters 2016 is a good example. The idea this was an important issue that tied into the election is just a bit silly. What people who weren’t diving into the internet culture war saw was a mediocre film come out and then moved on. It’s a pretty obvious cycle inflated by media that knows that outrage sells. Why do modern movies suck? Because you’re not 14 anymore and mass market movies have always varied a lot in quality.

Vor Monat
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Jesse Leibel
Jesse Leibel

Great work as usual… Love your channel Drinker! Although I agree with Drinker here on many points regarding this topic, I think there’s a deeper issue at the foundation of this recent trend in fan baiting. Unfortunately I have neither the knowledge or ability needed to tackle the subject matter in an articulate enough manner to which it needs to be properly addressed. There is thankfully a YouTuber who does this amazingly well, so if this discussion interests anyone then I would love to refer you to… Living Anachronism - “Defending Tolkien”

Vor Monat
Kevin Siu
Kevin Siu

Nowadays these imbeciles believe that you need to check at least 2 out of 3 woke boxes when producing anything: 1. Make at least one or more leading roles black. 2. Hypermasculinize females to make them "strong women" (usually while nerfing men because a strong woman isn't strong if she shares a screen with a strong man). If there were no "strong women" leading roles in the novel, then simply rewrite a strong male character as a woman. 3. Make some random person LGBTQ just to do so, while utterly failing at enhancing story telling and basically just to check a quota box.

Vor 2 Monate
Aurelius 843
Aurelius 843

Meanwhile, Tom Cruise leads his movie with a sincere thank you and a smile for the fans. Man might be a scientologist loon but damn if he isn't the best filmmaker today and the last remnant of Hollywood.

Vor 2 Monate
GingerZombie29
GingerZombie29

He might be crazy, but he knows his craft and does it well. He's a great actor and his work ethic is off the charts. And he doesn't bite the hand that feeds him.

Vor 2 Monate
ConkurIV
ConkurIV

It’s too bad he’s a Scientologist

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂

Vor 2 Monate
OddityDK
OddityDK

@Si paling paham dunia akhirat I agree. I probably misunderstood you then.

Vor 2 Monate
Si paling paham dunia akhirat
Si paling paham dunia akhirat

@OddityDK maybe i haven't made it clear yet, but i don't think Top Gun : Maverick as an anti-woke movie. It just looks like that because Nerdrotics and his mates keep championing it against woke movies, that makes an illusion that show TG:M as an anti-woke movie. This is why i say that one can criticize woke movie without championing another movie. It just gonna makes the horde or wokes attack said movie that one's championing.

Vor 2 Monate
C. C.
C. C.

I think a big part of it is that we have to feel validated by what others around us think. If I have 10 friends that don’t like something that I do, chances are I’m going to find a way to dislike it so I can fit in. We don’t watch for ourselves anymore, we watch for the reactions it’s going to get out of others. Then when we have formed our opinions because our favorite YouTuber is saying something is bad, we then watch the shows with a never ending wheel of reasons why the show is bad. If we just tune out and simply do something just for ourselves, we might find more enjoyment than we expect. Instead we have to be over concerned with ensuring the people we like, friends or content creators, are in the same boat as we are before we can move on. Oh and also, drama sells. Happiness doesn’t.

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Daniel Duncan
Daniel Duncan

Yep, you hit the nail right on the head. I can't get reliable reviews now. So I just don't watch movies anymore. Without reliable reviews, I got burned, and then I got burned, and then I got burned. And then I just gave up. Now it is "I bet this is going to be garbage, just like all others were." It isn't just movies though. My boycotts are against entire corporations now. Like Disney, for an example of one. They burned me so many times, screw their movies now, I just boycott the entire damn corporation.

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Faheem Abbas
Faheem Abbas

Me too. Creativity is dying. I don’t like watching movies anymore either. I haven’t gone to the movie theatre in over a couple years now. And I used to go every couple months or 3. I’d say start watching anime since they may honestly be the last big entertainment industry that actually puts effort into what they make, but people may be hesitant because of the bad reputation it got from haters. Hentai is not normal anime, for example. They are two different things. Hentai is for… you know, “crazy” people ;-) I started watching One Piece, which releases a new episode each week and is possibly the most popular big anime right now. Not everyone likes it because it’s so long, in fact, the anime has been running since 1999 and passed their 1000th(!) episode a couple months ago I think. I watched the whole thing up to the latest episode when I was stuck in my house during the coronavirus boom of March 2020. I surprisingly loved it. And I still watch it today. Before, I thought anime was weird. I was very, VERY wrong. I hope you can look into watching anime and find hidden gems as well as current popular ones like Spy X Family, but if you don’t like anime I understand. Imo it’s definitely not for everyone.

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GroOkIEGAng
GroOkIEGAng

This is why I don’t watch modern movies anymore. The last one I watched was three years ago and that was detective pikachu. I can’t even remember what I last saw before that. I’m surprised this method actually gets people to pay up and basically hate watch the movies. Why would you ever want to spend your time hating something? Apparently it works because they keep doing it. And the worst part about all of this is it’s going to cause a massive 180 in the perspective of American people. Back in the 80’s-90’s we already had tv shows and movies with diversity and good writing. In fact you could’ve argued that racism felt like a major thing of the past at that point. But now? It’s going to cause major issues all over again. You can’t just brag about how progressive you are when you also completely belittle, slander and replace an entire race of people. You end up creating actual racists from doing that. What we’ll eventually end up with are future generations with views that basically reflect the ones back in the 60’s and before.

Vor 2 Monate
B X
B X

"the customer is always right", and even if you attract some attention by provoking fans, guess what, people will remember your names and you will get blacklisted eventually. They did the same with music industry, they produce total crap and then Adele and Lady Gaga made a ton of money by producing good stuff proving their low-quality business model wrong. They still attack Adele for losing weight because they're so jealous of her success and actual talent.

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M. Poppins
M. Poppins

Been saying for a while that this is business model. The backlash is basically free marketing for them. Glad to see people spreading the word.

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂

Vor 2 Monate
Stephen Shelton
Stephen Shelton

But it doesn't work.

Vor 2 Monate
Ahmad Jewett
Ahmad Jewett

I'm just surprised that people will still watch it after seeing how bad it looks.

Vor 2 Monate
Matt
Matt

Pretty much what I've seen happen since Disney took over star wars.

Vor 2 Monate
Joel Schneider
Joel Schneider

​@bonsai zone Nice try. I suggest you watch Conan the Barbarian (1982). It came out 40 years ago, has a diverse cast, and earned wide recognition for Arnold Schwarzenegger. However, some fans of the Conan books didn't like it because of differences between the movie and the source material.

Vor 2 Monate
Blixthand
Blixthand

Last weekend I went to the cinemas and decided to go into something blind. I saw Where the Crawdads Sings. When I later talked with my dad he asked how was the movie? I said it was probably the best movie I’ve seen released this year, but that says more about all the other movies I’ve seen this year than it says about this movie.

Vor 2 Monate
ZeroOne
ZeroOne

I remember watching rings of power 1-3 all pirated. I advice you all to pirate these shows so you can actually watch them critique them without paying for them. Creators can't say that shit but I can. Oh yeah, the acting is sooo akward and lazy, some look good but gets overshadowed by the bad actors and costumes, vfx, etc. Writing, character development, world building everything is bad as fuck.

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joe blow
joe blow

all i know is that after i stopped taking my daughter to the movies around 2010 (because she had become too old to go with her dad) i have had no reasons to go the movies.

Vor 2 Monate
ankit kushwah
ankit kushwah

My childhood was amazing for the same reason. I have seen greatest work from cinema without appreciating it enough. No one have guts to make such experiences. Then comes Top Gun Maverick outta nowhere

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DeclanHugo RS
DeclanHugo RS

After Brie Larson spent 3 years of being an arrogant, annoying, self-entitled #girlpower representative, the best thing was to see her frustration when she admitted nobody wanted to see her as Captain Marvel anymore, not even Marvel

Vor 2 Monate
Amey Birulkar
Amey Birulkar

@Stoic Grimace same here. I have actually started to watch older movies and they are much better than superhero bullshit.

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DeclanHugo RS
DeclanHugo RS

@Martin Smarda Well I don't know Hitler personally. But I do know that he killed over 6 million innocent Jewish people as well as several other groups to solidify his power. I think I'm pretty happy he's dead. Of course Brie Larson isn't Hitler, but she actively hates anyone who is white and male, believes both Captain Marvel and her are superior to all others, and she's pretty arrogant. I think I'd be happy to see her completely break down in frustration because of her own actions.

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Bren Ten
Bren Ten

@MediocreMan hard to have a personality when you are named after a flavour of cheese I suppose,,,

Vor 2 Monate
Martin Smarda
Martin Smarda

Why was it the "best thing"? Do you know her? Has she done something to you? I don´t like a lot of actors. But wishing them bad things is just a prickly move.

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music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂🤣😂

Vor 2 Monate
Swanport
Swanport

These recent movies remind me of animes. You know some animes have strong and smug (tsundere) female lead characters surrounded by horny beta males. But such animes are never criticized because Japan has a super patriarchal society with citizens of 99.99% ethnic Japanese, so their fiction remains just fiction. But in US case, feminism and multiculturalism are pushed in both real life and fictions. I think Americans are having too much of it.

Vor 2 Monate
HakuZaku
HakuZaku

At this point. It's time to make our own stuff, we were inspired by these stories now it's time to make our own works, our own worlds, our own entertainment that will generate more positive feedback then this modern shit

Vor 2 Monate
David Fichtner
David Fichtner

Michael Kahn did a production of Troilus and Cressida at the Shakespeare Theater in Washington DC about 25 years ago. He made Achilles and his Myrmidons all black actors. Worked brilliantly and fit into the play like the right key turning a lock.

Vor 2 Monate
Matthew Charles
Matthew Charles

Well said. I refuse to give Disney any more of my money. If I didn't already own DVDs of Disney movies, there would be no mouse in my house.

Vor 2 Monate
Lost Boi
Lost Boi

They don't want fans, they just want consumers

Vor 2 Monate
Frumentarii
Frumentarii

Yup, the want sheep/shills who just consume and don't ask question. They don't' want a fan who points out their stupid "mistakes".

Vor 2 Monate
Nicholas Ajumobi
Nicholas Ajumobi

Which is natural. Businesses are supposed to give customers what they want.

Vor 2 Monate
Lynx Fresh
Lynx Fresh

@R. L. Royall, Jr. Suddenly gatekeepering doesn't seem all that bad afterall. It's a catch 22 either way; you buy the product and hate it welp too bad you still supported it via your money however you if choose not to buy the product well you suddenly lose the "right" to criticise it (even if it received negative feedback from customers). We truly live in a mad mad world.

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R. L. Royall, Jr.
R. L. Royall, Jr.

Worse than that, they feel entitled to your entertainment budget REGARDLESS of what they give you. Whether it's trash or high art doesn't matter, *you owe them your money and if you withhold it then you are wrong.*

Vor 2 Monate
WumpusRat
WumpusRat

@AzureRoxe Well, as we all know, black people have never appeared in any media before this. So of course little kids are surprised to see it. This is the first movie in the history of Hollywood that has starred a black actress!

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Bloodshot
Bloodshot

Drinker, this was goddamn brilliant. I wished I watched it sooner. You perfectly expressed the games that these studios play in the media in order to dodge criticism.

Vor Monat
Jacque Evelyn
Jacque Evelyn

I haven't watched any reviews or interviews of stars, I have just started watching the Rings of Power and I like it. I like the actors and think they are doing a good job. I am now a little disappointed in the Fan Baiting you have told me about , I don't care about their agendas, and will quite often ( If I realize there is one) roll my eyes and it does take away from the story.

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Vidarhjal
Vidarhjal

11:33 exactly! A good, credible explanation IS THE KEY. Just look at Ian Fraser Murray from "Outlander". He is a Scottish man but was accepted by a Native American tribe, now he identifies with them and their culture. I don't think anyone criticises that. And then look at Lone Ranger (2010) where people were upset about Johnny Depp playing a Native American character (they complained about white-washing even while JD has a certain % of Native American heritage). Overall there's an observable hypocrisy culminating in anti-white racism (being discriminated against and treated differently in comparison to others for having a different skin colour) : Either white actors or producers are racists for unjustified white-washing or the white audience as film critics is racist for criticising unjustified black-washing. Meanwhile a recent (2018) white-washing and gender-swapping incident in Netflix' "New Legends of Monkey", an adaptation of "Journey to the West" didn't even create such a turmoil because maybe not enough people were even aware of the changes since the original book is a Chinese classic. I read the book and was totally disappointed by the series because nothing suits the original tale.

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everysteve
everysteve

Diversity is absolutely a good thing in principle, but "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure"

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Chucksenhowzen
Chucksenhowzen

This is why I praise Cobra Kai even after 5 seasons, they love their fans. And with it being the #1 show on Netflix again, the fans love them back

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂🤣😂

Vor 2 Monate
Matt Storm
Matt Storm

@Andrew NJ No i would not date any of those women. I'm well aware of the girl tournaments in the show, I did watch it. I was referring to the girls beating up the boys. Did you even read what I wrote? It's sad how propagandized you are, tell me again you aren't woke 😎

Vor 2 Monate
Andrew NJ
Andrew NJ

@Matt Storm Do you even read what you are saying? Did you have a problem with KK2 where Daniel was dating an Asian girl? So you would refuse to date Eva Longoria because she is Hispanic? Give me a break. None of your arguments make any sense. No tiny girl is beating up grown men or guys of any size, and they have the boys and girls fighting in separate gender classes in all the tournaments. I cannot tell you how many times the two main teenage boys broke up different girls fighting with each other. And like all the men I know, none of us have any problem with two women kissing each other, especially when that entire minor plot involved one of the guy's ex-girlfriend. I am an adult and can handle non PG rated content. No where in this show are they pushing "the message". This is the first time I have ever heard that African-American is a silly term. You do realize the show is a comedy-drama right and it is not trying to be very serious? You seem confused about who you are talking to.

Vor 2 Monate
Matt Storm
Matt Storm

@Andrew NJ Minor lol. Ok. Do you even understand how subversion works? You have tiny girls beating up guys, as I already mentioned atleast 3 interracial relationships, and minor or not so-called bi-sexuality was obviously put in there for a reason. You don't believe you're a victim of the propaganda yet you use silly terms like "african-american". Go watch a film called "Hollywoodism".

Vor 2 Monate
Muscles Mouse
Muscles Mouse

@theeshyguy1 Daniel was the bully

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YOU KNOW BETTER
YOU KNOW BETTER

When I first saw this movie I was like wow great job guys way to destroy one of my favorite childhood franchises it was horrible acting

Vor Monat
Rikorage
Rikorage

It seems like some of the sentiment has always been there, but it's usually from critics after a product is made to point out something that could be considered racists, sexist, or misinformed about anything and everything. Which, to be fair, as a criticism can be legitimate towards that sentiment. It's just that yeah, with all this pre-manufactured hate mongering for a product that they know, and we know, is terrible, to deflect criticism because of their laziness, this creates a bad time for everyone, except for the a-holes that are getting the most money from this. It wasn't very often I get out to watch movies anyway, even before the shutdowns, but now, I really have to be convinced to go to see a movie.

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King of Crowns
King of Crowns

Couldn’t have said it better myself - seriously. How you manage to pack so many valid points into one script is impressive to say the least. Should be compulsory listening for all. Kudos.

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Croft
Croft

This makes sense tbf, like House of Dragon has been absolutely incredible and yet I’ve heard and seen more about She-Hulk online.

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Michael Bray
Michael Bray

Rather than "Fan-Baiting," I prefer to refer to it as "Fantagonism." They aren't trying to bait fans, they are trying to Antagonize us.

Vor 2 Monate
Sweet Villasis
Sweet Villasis

I see this too now, but I gotta wonder, is the industry trying to force square pegs into round holes? Are they telling feminist/LGBT+/POC writers and producers to make fantasy sci-fi products because that’s what sells? Maybe these writers and producers loath having to work on these projects?

Vor 2 Monate
Yeah Yeah
Yeah Yeah

@Kir Kanos OK? "Wokism" is an invented new word that basically means anything that makes insecure jelly's feel uncomfortable.

Vor 2 Monate
bastiat
bastiat

@Fatema Khan the funniest part is the left keeps talking about uniting everyone and they have against them. i mean the irony is almost compelling.

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Fatema Khan
Fatema Khan

That's also not bad.

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bastiat
bastiat

@J North oh and to rally the ideologues to rush and see it dont forget.

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Martin Layne
Martin Layne

Excellent piece drinker I am reminded about polititicians who just about the same thing as leaders. They create a controversy then blame those that express an opinion against it, ultimately using it to control the population. It's the oldest trick in the book and most of us would miss it if it wasn't pointed out by persons like yourself

Vor 2 Monate
Nick Psara
Nick Psara

Although i do mostly agree with your points in here, i gotta say that aside from Galadriel being a totally differemt character, the poc in the cast do not seem out of place. They fit just fine. And, to be honest, Tolkien's work, though amazing, reveals much predjudice over non- white ppl. I mean, the lands in the south and east of middle earth/europe are not even explored, and the glimpse of the ppl we see from there have elephants, are darker skinned and are evil coz they side with mordor. So yes, although storywise i think deviating from the books is bad, some racial representation is actually an improvement, especially when it is just there, not on your nose and stuff. I think the only thing needed to be done was to have some new character star instead of galadriel, literally keep the same character traits, and change the name and story

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ASH 23
ASH 23

I never thought I would see the day that companies, in such orchestrated fashion, would be more interested in pushing a narrative than actually making money. Seems like some kind of plan or something, but I don't want to sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist.

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Krösus
Krösus

They want to reach a new audience is something they say allot. Well The Hobbit movies wasn't reaching for a "new audience" and look how well it did in reaching fans and new audiences. It wasn't better then the old ones because it didn't try to be them. using J.R.R. Tolkien's work then mess up all the lore just makes me sad. Its disrespectful against the creator if nothing else

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Dink Martini
Dink Martini

It comes down to this: The public can complain all they want about films. But complaining doesn't matter if you are still shoveling them money. Swear off the industry and turn your back. THAT'S how you'll get them to change.

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MOST HIGH Guitar Guy
MOST HIGH Guitar Guy

@james burgess that is awesome James ! I need to follow your lead and spend more time playing music and exploring the world !

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james burgess
james burgess

I did that years ago (though I saw the Mr Rogers Documentary-not the Tom Hanks flic, and the RUSH40 doc. Last stuff I've seen since around 2011 or 2012.) It's not that hard to do, there's a big wide world out there and me and dog like getting out and seeing it 8>D

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MOST HIGH Guitar Guy
MOST HIGH Guitar Guy

@Morgan my problem with woke hollyweird is i am easily amused and unless it triggers me i just want to have a good time so i am good at ignoring lame characters and stupid plot twists as i become heavily immersed in the eye candy 😮. I try to only support movies that i know are not woke and have a great amount of toxic masculinity!

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MOST HIGH Guitar Guy
MOST HIGH Guitar Guy

@Dink Martini well said Martini 🍸!! Wish more people thought that way 😊

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MOST HIGH Guitar Guy
MOST HIGH Guitar Guy

@Glyne Lewis it unfortunately will never change . Music and movies are not made to make profit as much as they are made for indoctrination. Hollyweird only pretends it bothers them when they go woke and cry broke .

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Aegis
Aegis

You lost me at saying representation matters. You're still swallowing the little seed they planted that led to this entire fiasco. That's how they do it. That's why they always win. They feed you a little "reasonable" thing for you to concede and then it grows out of control. The actor that can best look, sound and act like the character is who should be cast as that character. Always with no exception.

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Mike DeFelice
Mike DeFelice

I love this video.. I laughed when the The Black Panther marketing was fan-baiting by marketing the movie as black people finally getting a superhero. The Blade series that was the best comic book series from earlier attempts to bring comics to the big screen. Blade was so far ahead of it's time and NOBODY important cared that Blade was black because 99 percent of people are not racist and people only care how good something is...

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Adam
Adam

Reflecting the world we live in today is exactly the opposite of fantasy and science fiction. Never back down Drinker, love your channel.

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John Wise
John Wise

I feel like new movies want you obsess over the characters and not the entire story. Even with some movies the camera is so focused on the characters that the world around them seem not to matter.

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Anamnesis
Anamnesis

"Why Disney is still successful despite all this: their fans hate themselves even more than the studio does."

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Nicholas Ajumobi
Nicholas Ajumobi

​@Ano Nony Even if press marketing was forcing and pretending about that, it's the creatives who determine quality of a film. For decades, viewers have simply used trailers of what's in a film to determine whether or not to see it. I myself don't know anyone who takes press campaigns into consideration....it's been only in recent decades where access to such press was so widespread.

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Calcaria Chimera
Calcaria Chimera

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😅🤣🤣🤣😂

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Thomasmemoryscentral
Thomasmemoryscentral

Not sure I understand this?

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Alan Webster
Alan Webster

Money from the parks is what keeps them going

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Major Gear
Major Gear

Not exactly. Imagine a subscription service has 10% content you like and 90% off content you don’t like. If you subscribe to get that 10%, you’re actually funding the 90% that you don’t like as well. The subscription service gets the same amount of money regardless if you like all of it or only some of it.

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scandmaster
scandmaster

The funny thing is when you see a movie with diverse cast its always about black African people. That's not diverse. It's same race of people over and over. Diverse cast, why nut have a native American next time as a love interest to a white girl. Why not have an inuit or Indian, or Thai actors in some high level movie or series. Or why not have more Chinese and Japanese actors,or are they too white.

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IndyMac16
IndyMac16

You may have said something like this before - Remakes are unoriginal and inauthentic.

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El Blaise
El Blaise

I can't help but wonder if silent non-participation would be a more effective deterrent to fan bating than vociferous outrage?

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AusWolf1
AusWolf1

This is a nice summary of why I don't watch new films and TV series anymore. I'm sick of being confronted by propaganda and no entertainment or educational value whatsoever.

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ito2789
ito2789

The absolute most frustrating thing that Hollywood is doing with casting diverse characters is that they are so preoccupied with diversity that they are doing it all for the wrong reasons and not giving these characters proper and worthwhile character arcs to actually give a crap about.

Vor 2 Monate
music man
music man

When a fan of J.R.R.Tolkien sees Jeff Bezos on the street https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6uUjUMQhU 😂🤣😂

Vor 2 Monate
Johnah Arston
Johnah Arston

@Jessi P I’m sure you do pal. I’m also sure you express the same passive nature when minority oriented studios do the same thing to white based shows as well with more creativity and excitement. Though we both know that’s about as true as evident as your source less story.🤷‍♂️

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ito2789
ito2789

@Chemical_E THAT is a prime example of wasted character AND actor potential.

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Dewulfe99
Dewulfe99

@Jessi P that's exactly what I'm thinking is really needed! Sadly, not surprised the suits decided to can it 😒

Vor 2 Monate
Dewulfe99
Dewulfe99

@Wayne Simon so what are you trying to say, that Hollywood will whitewash main characters but won't blackwash main characters? As far as the examples you mention, we're talking about now, not 40 - 60 years ago when no one was there to pull Hollywood into line when they cast Elizabeth Taylor as Cleopatra (who was apparently of Greek and Persian descent, probably). We're trying to get things right now, not balance some ledgerbook of historic offenses back to the dawn of time by acting as if two wrongs somehow make a right. And yes I know Gods of Egypt was made about 5 - 8 years ago, so, not that long ago, but not that recent either, and it *was* called out for its casting choices. Probably wouldn't get made today imo. More recently, when Hollywood has tried to cast white actors in roles not originally white, the backlash has led to those actors withdrawing from those roles (eg. Ed Skrien from Hellboy), which I agree with. So again, what's you point?

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