We need to talk about Dark Academia..

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    Alice CappelleAlice Cappelle

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    Ohi!
    I love dark academia but it's kiiinda problematic, here's why and what we can do about it :)
    SOURCES:
    www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/15/british-black-intellectual-stuart-hall
    www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jan/28/academics-must-stop-uk-universities-sweatshops
    www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/07/oxford-bullingdon-club-boris-johnson-sexism-violence-bullying-culture
    Link to grey academia fandom page: aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Grey_Academia
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Andina Rizkia
Andina Rizkia

There's this slogan used by people who loves vintage and historical fashion, even said by many fashion historician of colors: _Vintage aesthetics, NOT vintage values_ It's ok to like something due to the aesthetics as long as you don't do the problematic values of it!

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LGBTQ Rights
LGBTQ Rights

@Eralah White like what? Many of those old values were sexist, racist, homophobia, and transphobic. :/

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Jerems !
Jerems !

@T J the way people live now would be off putting to practically every person of every era in every culture. Do you really think people 100s of years from now are going to look back on drag queen story hour, trans toddlers, and unfiltered consumerism as good things? Lmao. Ironically the only reason people were able to create the music/styles/architecture that everyone loves to romanticize was because of their "problematic" hierarchical values.

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Eralah White
Eralah White

There are some vintage values that are important and okay to like. So :)

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DaisyVi Luck
DaisyVi Luck

Even then, not all old time values were wrong. Take the good values, discard the problematic ones, and never forget that future times WILL judge us and find us wanting

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T J
T J

That described my life, thank you for sharing! I have always been an old soul, been fascinated by old fashioned things such as old books, old hobbies (such as baking with sourdough), especially from the Victorian era---however, the values morals of those times are very off putting and I certainly would never encourage anyone to practice them---especially with how children, women, and animals were treated.

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Peter Gert
Peter Gert

I fit right into the aesthetic. I love the colours, I adore reading and learning and well... the secret history is one of my favourite books. But at the end of the day it’s just an aesthetic, I am not going to build my life around something like that.

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Madeline Vlogs
Madeline Vlogs

A lot of the old colleges that look like castles are also expensive af and extremely difficult to get into especially in America. The colleges most average students go to aren’t as fancy but it would be nice to romanticize them too.

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Kezziah Valentino
Kezziah Valentino

I looks cool though

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blackswan1983
blackswan1983

Stereotypes are problematic. I didn't know what DA was until finding a playlist, and this popped up. Sigh. I'm tired of everything being examined to a pulp and ruined.

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Hanan Yohannes
Hanan Yohannes

Its so weird to see that the writer of the dead poet society did not include a girl in the book

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Physes
Physes

Ironically, considering things "problematic" is the whitest thing ever

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Moon Youtube
Moon Youtube

Je viens de te découvrir et franchement j'aime beaucoup tes vidéos ^^

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Merci c'est trop gentil 🥰

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The K-pop sound
The K-pop sound

Plato once said Excellence is not a gift but a skill that takes practice we do not act rightly because we are excellent in fact we achieve excellence by acting rightly. (I'm from Greece don't judge me)

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Lucia Noel
Lucia Noel

I’m not sure on whether it’s internalized misogyny from the author or producer, or the lack of female characters is intentional to portray the phallocratic society.

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Brenna Davis
Brenna Davis

Yeah period values are never going to be at today’s standards. But wear whatever aesthetic you love because that’s all it is. style.

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firstname lastname
firstname lastname

part of dark academia's aesthetic is elitism and European heritage, whats the problem?

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꧁ B 3 1 1 A T R 1 X ꧂
꧁ B 3 1 1 A T R 1 X ꧂

I dont see a problem either, and im not european. Plus, Europe is so cool! I want to travel to all the countries someday :]

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Abby Germann
Abby Germann

*i just like the playlists*

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Charlotte V.
Charlotte V.

Why are people commenting that she’s taking it too seriously? I don’t think she is. She made valid criticisms of a type of unhealthy mentality that a lot of people adopt in order to be “aesthetic”. No one said it was wrong to identify with dark academia, it’s just important to remember that we should only adopt the fashion, passion for learning, decor and architecture, not the bigoted mindsets.

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pessimistic unicorn
pessimistic unicorn

I haven’t seen anyone online who does or promotes the unhealthy stuff... also it’s pretty stupid to criticize that it’s European centric bc it’s literally inspired by 20th century Europe. The aesthetic started on tumblr and a lot of queer people read queer classics ( and 20th century Europe was pretty homophobic). Poc can read poc classics instead of crying about it on the internet. You can make the aesthetic fit you and your interest.

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Pacoimero XVida
Pacoimero XVida

I love reading books on heydrich & eichmann thus i aesthetic with nassie regalia

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LPS PeanutButter Productions
LPS PeanutButter Productions

I like the aesthetic. But no I’m hella dumb

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Dinel Samaratunga
Dinel Samaratunga

"It is fiction and the way we read or look at dark academia can be very different to the way we live it" -you Well exactly, can't we just accept books and movies as they are, they are works of fiction which generally serve as a form of entertainment. When we read crime books, thrillers which generally glorify murder, or deception we don't suddenly get the urge to go and kill someone amirite? If you listen to Pumped Up Kicks, which glorifies school shootings, we aren't going to go and massacre some kindergarteners right? What is the need to change dark academia or make it more inclusive? It's an aesthetic And take that at face value. Period. and that obviously doesn't mean you have to become depressed or mysoginistic. People have to stop reading into things so much and ruining it. This wokeness is going too far.

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tired af
tired af

My kind of dark academia aesthetic is Harry Potter ❤️😁 i couldn't care less about any of these movies and books

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alannothnagle
alannothnagle

Dark Academia is only a "thing" at a few classic universities like Oxford, Cambridge and a few others, where there are still the traditions and architecture to match. I taught for several years at a new university on the continent. Believe you me, life there revolved entirely around earning class credits, careerism, sniffing out plagiarism, publish-and-perish etc. There wasn't a trace of romance or aesthetics in sight, and there was nobody to recognize it if there had been. I suspect this is true in most academia these days.

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pessimistic unicorn
pessimistic unicorn

Most countries in Europe have old university buildings... Also it’s JUST AN AESTHETIC. Obviously a lot of people back then were sexist, racist and homophobic but that doesn’t mean that the people who like the aesthetic are those things

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Oscar Errington
Oscar Errington

The Secret History is one of my favourite books of all time, but I hate how some people seem to romanticise the characters’ morally bad actions and their elitism (even when they’re purposely written to be flawed and and sometimes outright unlikeable). It seems like quite an odd reaction. I came away from the book seeing a lot more problems with that side of academia than pluses.

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Aiden Mikolajczyk
Aiden Mikolajczyk

If you don't like it don't read it, not everyone needs to be represented in a single book. Make it what you want it to be

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Grace Furrow
Grace Furrow

your voice is SO soothing, I put your blogs on when I'm working on my schoolwork. Sorry if that's weird, actually, I just adore your accent

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

That's so sweet 🥰

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Hana Tanana
Hana Tanana

You have to realize that different cultures developed along different lines. There is NO one single aesthetic that is ALL inclusive. It doesn't make sense to demand any culture to be all inclusive because by definition a culture is "the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a PARTICULAR nation, people, or social group".

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Teja Johnson
Teja Johnson

I think you could have touched a little more on why the subjects idealized by dark academia - (western) art history, (western) literature, and classics (literally bc greek and latin are formative pillars of... western culture and scholarship) - are problematically narrow! it's not just that you have to be rich to confidently study them in school; even just casually engaging in these interests promotes traditional western culture as superior to everything else. the aesthetics of dark academia are rooted in these imperialist, traditional values - what clothes are popular (expensive, somewhat formal prep school styles), which fields and subjects are popular, what the setting looks like, so on and so forth. i'm definitely not saying throw the whole thing out - youtube would never recommend me a dark academia video if i didn't watch dark academia videos - but it frustrates me so much when people will just basically not admit to what beauty standards are obviously influencing their aesthetic choices. Just as it would be ridiculous to say "oh i just think light skin and a thin body are pretty for no reason," it's ridiculous to behave like, "oh i just want to wear mid-20th century boarding school clothing and fantasize that i go to an expensive, prestigious university hundreds of years old and am studying the works of dead white western men because it just happens to appeal to me for no reason!" Overall i loved this video and it was very validating.

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pessimistic unicorn
pessimistic unicorn

Wow the “woke” people here interpret way too much into it... it’s European centric bc it’s inspired by European 20th century universities. People back then were homophobic, sexist and racist that doesn’t mean that the people who like the aesthetic... Queer people made it fit their interest by reading classic lit with queer themes. You can make it fit your interests too. Let people enjoy things... I like the aesthetic too and that doesn’t mean I agree with the elitist, bigoted and militaristic views of early 20th Century Europe

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hi hi
hi hi

The only part of dark acadamia I do is romanticizing learning, trying to look good, and the music.

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Jif
Jif

I think Dark Academia is the positive appropriation of rich, white, male study culture to fit all genders and any poc, because I feel there's no exclusiveness to the fantasy.

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Afham Khan
Afham Khan

I did listen but she is so cute that I was just lost most of the time

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Pokhraj Roy
Pokhraj Roy

Dark Academia is Gothic Fandom but in earth tones.

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Dana van Logchem
Dana van Logchem

I just love the colors and clothing style

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bs4e
bs4e

Ok so I'm older than the tik tok age and I thought it was called dark academia because they wear darker shades of clothing....🤦‍♀️

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EMIRY REYES
EMIRY REYES

Problematic or not, I'm joining the aesthetic no matter what

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Antoine R
Antoine R

Je suis admiratif de ton anglais ! Un accent très soigné et un lexique très riche !

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hitchins dawkins
hitchins dawkins

I think you are taking it too serious tbh

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pessimistic unicorn
pessimistic unicorn

@Alice Cappelle um no... the woke people like you are just interpreting too much into it... Let people enjoy things...

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

That's the point of DA, taking things seriously, researching, learning

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FeduGina
FeduGina

blah blah blah. If you know nothing about Victorian era, just stop talking about it. The fashion style has nothig to do with the Victorian England, it's just a fashion style 🤦‍♀️

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Vicktoria
Vicktoria

ох как же запарили моралофаги... сами не живут и другим не дают...

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Lilmisscostumedrama
Lilmisscostumedrama

I get where you are coming from with your points about Dark Acedemia being problematic. But, these points are only a very small part of “Dark Acedemia” and may not even be the main reasons as to what people hold up as a candle to why they follow the aesthetic in the first place. The women who wrote these books were HIGHLIGHTING theISSUES with the Male Elitist upper classes. We all see what’s wrong in the rout club. That’s what thw writer wants you to see.

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Using parody as a way to dismiss anything that is been said or done is what bothers me the most about The Riot Club, "it's fine, it's a parody" yes but what is the moral of the story? Posh boys are mean? really?? That's it? So you watched 1h30 of a crappy movie full of misogyny, homophobia (the only homosexual character is presented as a predator throughout the movie...) and racism just for that? It's ridiculous, I don't know what purpose it serves except reinforcing those stereotypes

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visions of january
visions of january

I'm a STEM gal, but I love the look as well as the classical music that's associated with the aesthetic.

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• Śtarzx •
• Śtarzx •

*I love Dark academia so VINTAGE, STUDYING, ESPECIALLY THE STYLE OF THERE CLOTHES I also value old items because it’s in the past you can’t have it now*

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Bruna Miranda
Bruna Miranda

I never had a feeling it was problematic because I wasn't obsessed with it. Everything you get obsessed with can really dictate your life. I love drinking coffee, studying art history dressing dark and listening to classic music way before I even found out about the aesthetics. So it was more like using it to feel even more inspired and motivated to be myself. Aesthetics is always a feeling, not a lifestyle. It's like listening to rap sometimes, you really don't wanna do drugs and act slutty, it's just a song. If you know what I mean.

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Miss Sonia
Miss Sonia

On the topic of aesthetic, I feel like too many people try to dress and be apart of whatever aesthetic is trendy. To me, an aesthetic is finding what you love, and how you are comfortable looking. Don’t try to throw yourself into an aesthetic because it’s “trendy”. It will die out soon, and it isn’t truly you! If you love the aesthetic and feel comfortable, then go for it! But if it isn’t you and you are doing it for the trend, then don’t do it and just be yourself.

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coffee to go
coffee to go

Great and informative video! Grey Academia seems to try to solve these issues, but it turned out to be a failed venture. I made a video on my channel on that, explaining why. But I'd argue that Dark Academia can also become more inclusive and aware, in the way we consume media, and what kind of art we want to produce in the future.

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PURRR GET INTO IT
PURRR GET INTO IT

dark academia is genuinely scary in my opinion. LIKE NOPE i'd hate to go back in that time period.

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Moon The Consultant
Moon The Consultant

I think alot of people on the comments think that if something is problematic you cant do it Alot of things are problematic but by knowing its problematic history and being accountable for your actions you can improve something If you dont care about where something came from you dont really care about it and sometimes just sometimes that cant hurt people

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Arkan
Arkan

For the love of God, keep Dark Accademia away from the Jacques...

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Erin Bathie-Moore
Erin Bathie-Moore

I like the aesthetics, the music, Gothic architecture and such. I just wish I could find a lighter version of it? Like, white, grey, neutrals, naturals and such. But yeah; vintage fashion, not vintage morals

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

I think light academia exists, don't know if you've heard of it 😊

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the odd fox
the odd fox

Its not an aesthetic

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kristen wilkins
kristen wilkins

i just like using harry potter and classical music to make me study 🧍🏼‍♂️

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Tsuki Noir
Tsuki Noir

I just like the music and the outfits but not studying or reading haha.

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Louisa Portkrey
Louisa Portkrey

I love the style, I love Ancient Greek, Latin and Mythology, but here in Italy we study these subjects in public schools, so I see the whole Dark Academia thing from a different and inclusive point of view.

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Kelly Vaters
Kelly Vaters

The issue with "dark academia" isn't so much in the aesthetic, but in how the aesthetic is largely based in an idealized milieu of the past. While the 1950s were a period, at least in North America, of tremendous social mobility and opportunity, those were by no means universally available. Most of the Ivy League schools, for example, did not become fully co-ed until the 1970s. The 1980s, the next big wave of a similar aesthetic was the "preppy", "BCBG" and "Sloane Square" looks, which were more colorful, but decidedly elitist and absolutely tapped into privilege - or the appearance thereof. To see it return some thirty years later is, in some ways, welcome; but without question it's essential that we harbour no illusions about what it all aspires to - surrounding oneself with the kind of understanded beauty and practical elegance that we associate with those who live so far from want that they feel no wonder over it.

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pessimistic unicorn
pessimistic unicorn

You know that people who like the aesthetic do not share the militaristic, elitist and bigoted views of the early 20th Century

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Matthew Bowen
Matthew Bowen

I was very surprised to see dark academia as having been inspired by the Bullingdon Club, etc. To me dark academia respects and romanticises learning and education - the members of that club idolise money, status and power, not learning, self-improvement or the steady betterment of mankind. They’re almost the polar opposite in terms of ideals.

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Zipperozic
Zipperozic

fuck it. dark souls

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MinTac Gaming
MinTac Gaming

Who cares. The fighting terms of modern fringe politics has no power here. Nothing problematic- instead: its the root of greatness.

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Hailey Valencia
Hailey Valencia

My personality and my life is dark academia, except im a happy person not into murders or death.

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Only 2 Sisters
Only 2 Sisters

Hi fronce France ♥️♥️🇫🇷🇫🇷

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doon dae
doon dae

I decided to set dark academia as my aesthetic bc i rly like the outfit sobs

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G0th L0v3R
G0th L0v3R

Me, just wants to be a mix of Dark Academia and Cottagecore; 😟👓🤏so...can I do Dark Academia or no?

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J AV
J AV

My personality and fashion style is dark academia, my room is shabby chic pink aesthetic. I think some people need to realize they don’t have to emulate all aspects of an aesthetic. It’s ok to pick and choose

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Morgane 모간
Morgane 모간

Je viens de découvrir ta chaîne, et j'adore ce que tu fais, vraiment. Ton analyse de l'aesthetic est très intéressante et la vidéo est vraiment agréable à regarder

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Merci beaucoup Morgane 🥰

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Lord Sheep
Lord Sheep

Very informative video! Just subscribed!

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Geologick
Geologick

Literally everything is problematic in this world. People need to calm down and let folks enjoy things, stop looking for all the bad and focus on the good.

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• Spiral_Studios •
• Spiral_Studios •

I mean, I love the Dark Academia aesthetic because I love reading and learning about those things I’m interesting in but my dream clothing style is a mix of gothic and dark academia, aswell as the music choices!

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Ally Miku
Ally Miku

I feel like all the academia aesthetics are cool best anyone who likes that aesthetic usually gets inspired to learn more, do better in school, improve their education, get neat instead of unorganized, etc.

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Olivia Woloshyn
Olivia Woloshyn

I can't blame The Portrait of Dorian Grey for not letting the characters come out or treating homosexuality like a scandalous thing- it was written inthe 1800's I think. Also just the amount of homosexuality rep in the book got the author 2 years of hard labor because it was used as evidence that he was gay.

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Wmjitati
Wmjitati

Is it still okay to like DA? I just enjoy the clothes and fashion as well as writing, reading, studying, and the overall calm atmosphere it gives me. Sorry if it doesn’t make sense I’m not good at this stuff.

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f r i e n d s m a y b e
f r i e n d s m a y b e

It’s kinda sad how a Aesthetic based on the passion of culture, history and litterature became just glamorising 1600-1800’s uperclass Europe

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Auryn Minh
Auryn Minh

This is actually a really cleverly done video. I was surprised

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Gourami21
Gourami21

Honestly..... everything is bad if you make it bad. As long as you think about what you’re doing and think about your health it’s fine.

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Basundhara Paul
Basundhara Paul

Y'all be finding problems with anything people enjoy without hurting others. "It's really problematic". If you see in that sense, everything is. Stop taking stuff so seriously... Everything is positive only if the person who is seeing it is optimistic. You need to be able to elicit the positivity from everything, and not succumb to the negatives. Nothing is problematic if you in your mind are not.

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

lol then everything is good, nothing needs to be challenged and we're all happy and positive, thanks for the advice ! Man the world wouldn't be what it is today if everybody shut up and smiled at social injustice...

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barbietingz
barbietingz

na im the stevie nicks 70s aesthetic 🤩

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TheWorld Says
TheWorld Says

I guess it is time to round up all the people who are not interested in dark academia and force them to adapt it for representation.

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Gamingline
Gamingline

I don't know what to do I like dark academia but i also like anime and gaming. Even if it doesn't fit, I'll probably mix everything together.All of these three aesthetics feel like myself,so I can't decide which of the three i life. I know that sounds strange but that's just the way I am

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Rom
Rom

not everything is problematic, dark academia is just an aesthetic, not completely tied to the social attitudes & background that you find problematic.

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Michael Bier
Michael Bier

Amazing

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Black Artemis
Black Artemis

I'm an 80's kid - We had Posh, Collegiate and Preppy - for us that was the current Academia genre and it's sub-genres. I was a mix of all three as I loved (and still do) what I called the British Collegiate look and I mixed it with grunge and punk. There is a problematic bent to almost any genre - But that shouldn't stop anyone from pursuing what in that Genre can positively work for them. I think every generation has been attracted to an aesthetic that they felt inspired them to become a better version of themselves - Not so much for acceptance from others but as a true expression of themselves. Sometimes we see an aesthetic and it just clicks with something in us. None of these Aesthetics mean you have to borrow the negative traits in order to exact the tone of that style - especially if they will lower your energy and (or) mental health. Life is stranger than fiction and every turn has a darker turn waiting in the glitter of experience. Be wise in all things

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ASMR Ivy
ASMR Ivy

I like the vibes or dark Acadameia but I just have a funky and very joyful personality that doesn't match it. reading and the classical music just fits right with me. the style is so cute. I just probably won't make it my whole aesthetic because I live for other things as well

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Pumpkin Patch
Pumpkin Patch

Vintage style, not vintage values. Shhhhhh... let people enjoy things.

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Mary C.
Mary C.

Wow I had not heard of this and I didn't know vintage clothes had such negative things for the person wearing them . I enjoy my old style clothes, but I don't want people thinking that I am a bad person because of them. I think I will wear them anyways, i was made fun of sometimes for my weird clothes and I am used to others making assumptions about me. Always look at the inside for persons character is a lesson I try to live by and I hope others will still give me the benefit of the doubt

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Sukanya Parashar
Sukanya Parashar

I really like the books though, even though they do tend to be about toxic characters

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S K
S K

That moment when your name is literally on the choose your fighter on the thumbnail

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Shara Sainie
Shara Sainie

As soon as I made dark academia my aesthetic, i feel so much more like myself. I've tried out so many aesthetics but this particular one fits so well omg, like ever since I have violently romanticised studying, my grades skyrocketed😃

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Alicelith Anne
Alicelith Anne

Honestly I love dark academia and the whole aesthetic but for others to force themselves on being overly perfect or studying excessively is honestly wrong although before I even discovered dark academia I already had been quite an excessive study type since I have been pressured at a young age to be like that. I just hope that people who arent specifically like me or like that dont force it on themselves, its ok to not follow everything about the aesthetic its just an aesthetic after all it is not an official guide in life that we HAVE to follow.

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Working Wolf
Working Wolf

Just love the poetry, books, fashion, vibes and the way it’s gotten me so invested in studying. My whole life I’ve felt out of place but when I discovered DA I finally felt like I was at home. I’d found this whole community that loved books, poetry, Greek mythology and classical music just as much as I did.

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Inesthetik
Inesthetik

I was a big fan of it but never saw the dark side... thanks for sharing this perspective !

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Cat Ears
Cat Ears

Why do we have to always be so obsessed with equality? No one talks about "girly" books where there is a group of girls and boys are just some minor characters. Here the situation is different - the books tell us about men dining club, so why are we even expecting that the story will include important female characters... As long as the book doesn't say that women are worse than men why do we get mad just because the author decided to portray men dining club? Also, why are people surprised that homosexuality is portrayed differently in the book that was published in 1890s. Do I need to remind you that till 20th-century homosexualism was illegal? I mean... what do you expect for the book written in 19th century? Ti me it is obvious that the culture was different back then and I'm rather surprised that is isn't obvious to everybody.

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Come on, you cannot compare girly books with men dining clubs, the power dynamics aren't the same... Dining clubs are based on toxic masculinity and patriarchy, girly books on women embracing their feminity, it's a safe space from patriarchy. Second, It's not just about representation. The female characters in the book and movie I talked about are presented as dependent, weak, stupid or to be taken advantage of, that's it, nothing else and that's problematic enough to mention it. And finally, of course homexuality was only implied with Dorian Grey because it was illegal or controversial but why is it still the case in a movie produced in the 2010s?? Why is the only supposedly homosexual character the older member presented multiple times as predator? That's really really problematic and needs to be pointed out. So yeah I stand by my analysis.

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matylda bańka
matylda bańka

How about Frankenstein?

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F33star
F33star

Me who just likes the areas that look goblincore and dark academia: 👁👄👁

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marker
marker

I just really like the architecture

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Jagoda Wojciechowicz
Jagoda Wojciechowicz

Personaly i like the aesthetic pretty much for the colour palettes & outfits & just "the look" Plus the idea of people enjoying and even loving Education is rather nice, cuz i myself have difficulty with even enjoying anything that has to do with school and Educational system (its also nice to imagine some nice stories about schools with their studends that don't have to suffer in bad Educational systems, being it the magic of fantasy & storytelling & world building) Also, since we on topic of problems with dark academia (and aesthetics overall) - I do remember that one video about dark academia, and the person who was talking in this video said something along the lines of "dark academia is NOT an outfit aesthetic. You have to AND want to learn HARD for it to be dark academia." A.K.A. You aesthetic cant be dark academia, unless you are learning stuff other people will count as the "right ones" (thats what I remember from that video at least, tho it was over a year i think since i watched it) And let me tell you, in my head i just went "nope" Lets just say, i hate when people gatekeep aesthetics of it sorts, ESPECIALLY if those exact same people try to say that the only way for you to "use that aesthetic", you have to take a part in things that either make you uncomfortable, or a literally even toxic behaviors Im sorry if all this is confusing, english isn't my first language and I have difficulty explaining things overall

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Gigi’s Life
Gigi’s Life

I guess for me I never thought of the asthetic going so deep, I thought I was just like an outline for the "darker" side of people who love reading, people who like to dress formal and mix their fantasy with reality, to try and really connect with the books.I always loved the style and the vintage look of i. i never new how some people could take it so seriously but im glad I saw this

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Durandal
Durandal

You realize that this "movement" has no tangible reality. I mean, the "dark academia" style is called gothic, the rest is essentially moving fantasies, which evolves according to your "delusions". It has nothing concrete, no artistic analysis, no confrontation with the history of its "dark cities", it's nothing more than an idealized and totally biased vision of a bygone era.

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Boba C:
Boba C:

I thought it was a show or anime-

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haeno
haeno

I just learned what dining club is, and it's for gentlemen consist of upperclassmen. it's fascinating how these clubs are coming from prestige universities ie Oxford and Cambridge. of course they're very expensive university... you can really tell why they establish this type of club. also this club is kinda useless? like you just accumulated these elites for what? cos they don't have friends unless they socialise among them 🤷🏻‍♀️ you know how rich people usually doesn't have genuine friends lol

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Ahaha, on top of that all these clubs are dying, people don't want to be associated with them anymore

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Progga Paromita
Progga Paromita

I think dark academia can just be a love for learning and a dark vibe.

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london films
london films

No entendí nada porque no hablo en inglés , perdón 😔🤚🏻 Pero la verdad me gusta mucho esta moda no porque sea tendencia si no porque su cultura,lo antiguo y los colores se me hacen muy bonitos.

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Ahaha estoy de acuerdo contigo !

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Alann
Alann

You are gorgeous

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Thanks Alann ahaha

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William Lieske
William Lieske

The community is great if you ask me, I love the people in it. It's great to form connections with people who are also greatly interested in the arts and shit.

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

It definitely is ! Feels less lonely to find people who are into learning and stuff

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Katie Ravenhill
Katie Ravenhill

I think that's just the point, especially the older stories will be like that because of the time. Oscar Wilde for example already had problems because of his homosexuality, so the reason he did not make it too obvious is that he was already criticised and it danger because of his behaviour. But all in all, I agree with you. That's why, as other people have said: vintage aesthetics, not vintage values.

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Destiny Kitsune
Destiny Kitsune

Aesthetic should be about the AESTHETIC meaning the "vibe" or "clothes" or behaviour but the latter should just involve people who already are that way; for instance, I've been smoking for like 6 years and I'm trying to quit, not telling people to start because it's extremely unhealthy and leads to so many physical issues. Aesthetics, in my humble opinion, do not promote bad habits or anything else like that. I enjoy Dark Academia a lot but it has nothing to do with my personality or my behaviour towards myself and others. Don't get me wrong, but if I hear someone calling themselves "Dark Academia" because they like smoking, drinking coffee and read a few books, I would just stay away from them because they know VERY LITTLE about these things

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

When you look at the dark academia community, you realize that it's waaayyy more than just a way of dressing, music or aesthetic :/

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fanette by
fanette by

bonjour :)

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fanette by
fanette by

@Alice Cappelle WOW tu parles super bien anglais et j'adore ton accent ! Super vidéo 😊👍

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Alice Cappelle
Alice Cappelle

Salut :)

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