VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 76

Icarus the Phoenix
Icarus the Phoenix

I think the biggest reason she-hulk looks weird to me is that the Hulk, like you said, doesn't look human. Whereas she-hulk look like a normal actress with a green tint after effect applied (granted expertly done). Also she is so perfect, no skin imperfection, no peach fuzz, meanwhile the hulk is gruff and has tons of minor details. It's so strange seeing her and the hulk standing next to each other, b/c they seem like completely different styles.

Vor Monat
Law Rence
Law Rence

And then you make female characters with slight white face hair and everyone says she is ugly and does not have perfect skin like a female should. Speaking of the 2nd Horizon game

Vor 11 Tage
Legato DeadWinters
Legato DeadWinters

Yeah, Hulk is a big mass of stylized muscles, that kinda looks like Mark.

Vor 13 Tage
lawrence gomar
lawrence gomar

I don't know, her face is the problem for me, it feels like her eyes and head keep bouncing, it's like you spin around until you're dizzy then try to focus on one thing, the lines start to almost vibrate, it kind of gives me a head ache. The body looks great, it's just the face.

Vor 15 Tage
alwaysxnever
alwaysxnever

@Hekutokku I'm hoping more people are Dunkin gonnyhe billion dollar conglomerate that didn't allow the artists enough time to finish refining and rendering their work. Some of the close ups are glorious but put here two to three arm lengths away and the facial animations are smooth and rubbery. I'm not expecting her to look like Thanos and she doesn't look like Johnson in Scorpion King. It's just good enough.

Vor 18 Tage
koi140
koi140

No mention of how Jibaro avoided clipping with all that jewelry and armor? It was an amazing technical accomplishment

Vor Monat
Caitlin
Caitlin

It should have had its own episode. But seriously the behind the scenes with the director is far more informative than this video.

Vor 11 Tage
santi_super_stunts
santi_super_stunts

Yeah and still ended up being the worst episode

Vor 22 Tage
Stormy Weather
Stormy Weather

Jibaro was really beautiful and most importantly heavily stylized. I agree they did seem salty.

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tong
tong

@Vishant Singh How was they salty? i think they really like the work

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Vishant Singh
Vishant Singh

Yeaa Idky they were i got a bit vibe that they were being kinda salty when they were reviewing that and i was most excited about their review of that only. Lol I thought they will appreciate it like helll

Vor Monat
135Fenrir
135Fenrir

For me, (She Hulk) what is triggering my mind is that her eyes have no micro movements. She is just deadpan robo-staring into things. That starts the uncanny rollercoaster. Especially the dinner date and the phone swipe scene.

Vor Monat
Aleksandr
Aleksandr

Yeah, I get the same feeling when looking at Luke Skinwalker from the Boba Fett show. These shows have been garbage in terms of writing, but it looks like there's a new layer of shit with the VFX in this new one.

Vor 3 Stunden
Tyler Emery
Tyler Emery

That's it. I knew the phone swipe scene looked off, but I couldn't put my finger on why. It's definitely the lack of eye movement.

Vor 8 Tage
Faith&Films
Faith&Films

The eyes need more movement

Vor 9 Tage
Faith&Films
Faith&Films

I agree with you

Vor 9 Tage
SubwayJack919
SubwayJack919

*The racist phone swipe scene.

Vor 10 Tage
TheApostleofRock
TheApostleofRock

Are we going to pretend that the animation of SheHulk's hair is convincing? Really good point about compression and stuff, but Her hair looks lifeless to me. (not a VFX artist)

Vor 24 Tage
CaptainFlowers
CaptainFlowers

@Hunter Also the fact there has been extradimenional beings, gods, aliens, robots, a genocide warlord, and a fucking celestial whose finger nail is the size of the Earth and that fiasco with Spider-Man and everyone thinks She-Hulk is strange? At this point, She-Hulk is someone people should be expecting and be like "hey another one.... anyways..." At this point, it should be actually normal now, she shouldn't be getting this much attention since even stranger things happened since then

Vor 7 Tage
Hunter
Hunter

@CaptainFlowers maybe if she had to deal with rage issues too it would be a more compelling show... but it’s not.

Vor 7 Tage
Gert van Bruggen
Gert van Bruggen

@CaptainFlowers The great question is can we at some point have a great looking Medusa!

Vor 11 Tage
CaptainFlowers
CaptainFlowers

@Mati Brizu Oh yes, I completely miss-read the text, you're right. My only complaint with the fact She-Hulk looks like a normal person with green skin and muscles. To me her situation is not AS bad as she is making it out to be, she is just.. green basically. Bruce had actually issues he had to overcome which took hell a long time to find a solution. I do not know what drama they're gonna bring in here, but She-Hulk looks as normal as any other besides green. I had not read the comics, not sure if this is the same so if anyone can educate me on She-Hulk from the comics, I'll be down.

Vor 14 Tage
Mati Brizu
Mati Brizu

@CaptainFlowers No they didn't...

Vor 14 Tage
Đạt Trương
Đạt Trương

The problem with She-Hulk at least for me that her movements are too smooth for a human, she moves with a smooth 60fps while everyone else is just around 30-45fps making her look out of place. All the fuss about the trailer quality is that, this is a trailer, finely picked scenes that Marvel chose to show the world what the series is capable of, so even if some of those finely picked scenes are flawed, what guarantee that even more scenes are just as if not more flaw than those trailer scenes.

Vor 13 Tage
Tux
Tux

I suggest you guys take a look at Prehistoric Planet by David Attenborough - possibly the most realistic looking dinosaurs filmed through the perspective of a documentary. Just gorgeous

Vor Monat
Jesus protects
Jesus protects

Nah, I don't like fantasy tales.

Vor 6 Tage
Jordan Willey
Jordan Willey

@Man Bat "Dude, it's just light plagiarism."

Vor 9 Tage
LeoBurningFast
LeoBurningFast

ive been saying this on every video for a long time.

Vor 10 Tage
SansPlaysGames
SansPlaysGames

@Chinedu Opara if someone you know has apple tv+ watch it on that

Vor 10 Tage
Besanii
Besanii

She hulk looks like a filter made on Instagram, where the tracking of the actual face is just a split second delayed. Like, as long as she’s still it’s okay. But yes the CC make a good point in the blurring with compression. Plus it’s probably not complete yet, so she’s only 3/4 baked? It’ll likely be better by the time the show releases.

Vor 13 Tage
SirMonkeySuit
SirMonkeySuit

She hulk doesn't look that great that it deserves this much defending. People aren't criticising the work and effort that goes into creating a TV show budgeted CGI character, because a full CGI character for a TV show is tough. But even none Visual Effect Artists can see how wrong it looks, I don't see why they couldn't have just mixed and matched CGI shots with the actual actress rather than bogging themselves down with having to go full CGI. I like Practical effects with CGI elements to bolster a shot. Full CGI rarely and VERY rarely works for me to get immersed.

Vor 11 Tage
ashish hembrom
ashish hembrom

@Scorched did you watch Lord of the rings? Or Honey I shrunk the kids? Cats looked better than this.

Vor 12 Stunden
SirMonkeySuit
SirMonkeySuit

@Scorched Camera tricks, been done plenty of times on plenty of media throughout the century. Just opting for CGI is not creative, just Disney throwing money at the problem.

Vor 4 Tage
Scorched
Scorched

how exactly would they practically make her 7 feet tall

Vor 4 Tage
David Esch
David Esch

I think it's tough to see Marvel put so much time and effort into something like Infinity Wars Thanos then turn around and (seemingly) phone in the work on She Hulk. That said, seeing the YouTube / Disney Plus side by side comparison did help ease my concerns. I just want them to give as much love to Jennifer Walters as they do their other characters, cus she deserves it

Vor 19 Tage
Fedora The Explorar
Fedora The Explorar

For bad CGI, I would give a huge recommendation to watch the opening raceway disaster in Final Destination 4 (aka The Final Destination). If you look at its behind the scenes, you'd see a lot of practical effects but the final product seems much worse and cheap, and It'd be a great example of how the process from practical effect to the final shot can go wrong. Maybe to balance it out with good VFX, watch the opening bridge disaster in Final Destination 5.

Vor Monat
MagnetarFire
MagnetarFire

Love, Death and Robots Volume 1: "Beyond the aquila rift" has some absolutely bonkers facial animation. Very photo realistic imo. They managed to capture the subtle tics of the facial muscles near perfectly.

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ultimatebailer
ultimatebailer

@Zaire you must be from States lol they have reached to some of the most violent scenes, but a bit of sex is to much?

Vor Monat
SuperSolomob422
SuperSolomob422

@Beacom7  Well, Lucky 13 is episode 13, and Ice Age is 16 and I just assumed you were watching them in order. But definitely my favorite yet in the whole series, stays within its own theme very wel

Vor Monat
SuperSolomob422
SuperSolomob422

@Beacom7 Well, Lucky 13 is episode 13, and Ice Age is 16 and I just assumed you were watching them in order. But definitely my favorite yet in the whole series

Vor Monat
SuperSolomob422
SuperSolomob422

@Beacom7 Well, Lucky 13 is episode 13, and Ice Age is 16 and I just assumed you were watching them in order. But definitely my favorite yet in the whole series

Vor Monat
Beacom7
Beacom7

@SuperSolomob422 I dont remember that one i must not have seen it yet but i do see everyone in the comments mentioning that one so Ill tell you when i watch it

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Order 66
Order 66

Sam: “I don’t get why people have so many opinions about watching content.” Also Sam: “Let’s get back to giving opinions about content we are watching.” 🤣

Vor Monat
Jon C
Jon C

Less Sam = more likes

Vor 7 Tage
zhengyingli
zhengyingli

Order 66 Sam sounds like a gatekeeper.

Vor 9 Tage
Abhishek Janardhan
Abhishek Janardhan

I dont know the fat guy's name, but he was really defensive about she hulk. I mean he was really surprised with people criticising things on the internet. like how many have pointed out, this channel is also in the very business of generating critique. As long as there will be content, other people will react to it. the fat guy appeared to be more edgy and in angst than anyone who did not like a movie trailer on youtube.

Vor 9 Tage
xtremejay2000
xtremejay2000

That is the he problem with this show now. See a while back when they made fun of the last Jedi throne room scene the OPPOSITE portion of the internet that blindly LIKES everything came after them about "respecting the hard work of crews and if it's bad you can't say anything because real people worked on it." blah bl;ah blah. Since then the show changed to mostly praise and kissing the asses of guests on the show. Seriously watch episodes 1-10 then watch newer ones. Night and day difference.

Vor 23 Tage
Some Blaq Guy
Some Blaq Guy

@Ashutosh Bhushan these three are obnoxious as all hell...

Vor 25 Tage
Spiritverse
Spiritverse

you guys are so freaking hilarious 🤣 its a potato! 😂😂😂

Vor 23 Tage
protoguy
protoguy

Some of the issues with She-Hulk are the rough green screen too. That office shot looks like a bad Photoshop cut-out.

Vor 22 Tage
izatheworld
izatheworld

orphan black is insane!!! tatiana is so good, you truly forget she is playing almost every single character.. and while watching you really don't notice how the shots are done, you believe 100% there are multiple clones of the same person interacting. glad you guys covered it here, it deserves a lot more recognition than it has

Vor Monat
Milla Talonhand
Milla Talonhand

Orphan Black is amazing on so many levels, it's legitimately one of the best TV shows I've ever seen. And it's Canadian!

Vor Monat
spwarren95
spwarren95

Orphan Black was such an amazing show, Tatiana Maslany absolutely deserved her awards but the effects of clones were not recognized enough

Vor 5 Stunden
Annie Kallen
Annie Kallen

One of my favorite clone "effects" is the episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer where Xander has an evil twin. It just so happens that actor Nicholas Brendon has an identical twin brother, so they just used him for any shots where they both appear.

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Eddie K
Eddie K

@jedironin380 Haha. Glad to help. In fact - search for Terminator 2 Linda Hamilton Twin scene on YouTube and you should also get to see a cool deleted scene featuring the twins that was used during the extended cut.

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jedironin380
jedironin380

@Eddie K I did NOT know that!

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Eddie K
Eddie K

@jedironin380 Haha. They did that on Terminator 2 as well. Hamilton has a twin sister.

Vor Monat
jedironin380
jedironin380

Oh now that's just cheating! haha

Vor Monat
Janzer
Janzer

Love seeing Clint all energized. Glad he got a chance to do his own thing, seems more happy and alive now.

Vor Monat
tuxegirls
tuxegirls

I think more of the problem with she-hulk is in the actual design and in the choices they made about how to present her. Yes, the compression and funniness exaggerate it, but the color of green they went with, the exaggerated beauty, the hairstyle and length, etc. all kind of make her look like a sim and like they still wanted her to be pretty.

Vor Monat
Hunter
Hunter

@Trainer BlueHair-With-Pronouns Kris good character design and story telling should ALWAYS be number one priority.... but HE-hulks always gonna be fucking gross. Just make her FEMININE but buff as fuck. Instead of artists going out of their way to LITERALLY make her masculine and man like. It’s gross and weird.

Vor 7 Tage
Hunter
Hunter

@Dog God she isn’t buff enough.

Vor 7 Tage
jjj7790
jjj7790

@Dog God Disney executives have a very constrained view of what "pretty" is. If you've seen the movie Encanto, there's a girl character who has super strength. She is designed to be pretty but also has a big strong physique and broad shoulders. From the behind-the-scenes we are told that the filmmakers fought against Disney executives who wanted to make her slimmer and more petite. She-Hulk doesn't necessarily have the same physique, but there was definitely room to make her look more athletic and hot (not just "pretty"). The VFX artists have said publicly that Disney executives wanted them to make her smaller and less muscular and they caved.

Vor 26 Tage
alwaysxnever
alwaysxnever

@Joshua McDonaldthis is what I was looking to be discussed. I keep thinking Niko should have been on this one to explain this.

Vor Monat
Michael Zaite
Michael Zaite

@Zohair Jafar It's basically all of them, she get's "Homina-homina-hominaed" by at least one rando in a crowd like EVERY issue that involves a crowd. And she definitely capitalizes on that multiple times with multiple avengers and other Superheros. Basically crack open Marvel Unlimited and look at almost everything from after the original "Savage She-Hulk" on. Although "Sensational She-Hulk" may be too trying too hard to be Doom Patrol to be worth including.

Vor Monat
Thomas Brien
Thomas Brien

The two Love, Death and Robots I would love to see you guys break down; Zima Blue (V1E18) and Ice (V2E2). Both for similar reasons, but the art style and animation is wonderful and blends some spectacular traditional animation styles with more CGI/3D textured animations. (Also some of my favourite episodes)

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Beast Row
Beast Row

Snow in the desert, Ice age, and, Shapeshifters have got to be some of the best looking and I feel like the most impressive cgi oriented episodes of Love, Death, and Robots.

Vor Monat
no
no

Shapeshifters was solo good, I love the realistic look and the storytelling

Vor Monat
KillerTacos
KillerTacos

Absolute joy seeing Clint back as always!! Always a pleasure to see him!

Vor Monat
Ben Bouffard
Ben Bouffard

Sonnie's Edge, Bad Travelling, The Witness, Good Hunting, Snow in the Desert, In Vaulted Halls Entombed, and Swarm are great in terms of animation and VFX. Please look at those!

Vor 18 Stunden
Pete The Wargamer
Pete The Wargamer

Secret War from Love, Death and Robots Volume 1 gets my vote!

Vor Monat
Cameron Cange
Cameron Cange

Zima blue is my favorite😋

Vor Monat
Shambles
Shambles

The episode was nuts. It had everything. The anticipation, the mystery, the drama, the heroism, the gore. Freaking love it!

Vor Monat
Beacom7
Beacom7

Ice age is the most impressive episode in my opinion

Vor Monat
dasein
dasein

Hmm... the air feels... heavy

Vor Monat
Rittania
Rittania

100% agree

Vor Monat
Cryss Downes
Cryss Downes

Orphan black will always be one of my favorite television series♥️

Vor Monat
Willem Brodie
Willem Brodie

Been hanging around for the Love, Death and robots for some time. If I had some to reccomend, Sonny's Edge to look at skin, muscle. Beyond the Aquila rift for realism. And definitely the Secret War for both. The snow sims are insane, not to mention character detail and background design is mind boggling.

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Steven Bartel
Steven Bartel

Now im not saying you are wrong, but if you want to see something realistic you have to watch lucky 13

Vor 25 Tage
Ryan Kane
Ryan Kane

Okay I know they already reacted to “the witness” from love death and robots, but theres this one bit during the chase where they guy knocks over some boxes and briefly goes from 3d to 2d for like four frames and it’s amazing

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The Sabotender
The Sabotender

so glad you talked about Orphen Black, such a great series :D personally, my issue with SheHulk isnt the face or the details, its the body animation... it kind of has that "Disney wobble", and looks like its not mocapped

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alwaysxnever
alwaysxnever

Agree about the lack of performance capture. Like it was hand animated instead. Some movements lack realistic weight.

Vor Monat
blue text on white background
blue text on white background

7:51 one thing that stands out is she doesn't blink. it's actually a rule in animation to make characters blink when they turn their heads because most people do that irl.

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daedalus_suzuki
daedalus_suzuki

Blinks and (some word I forget for small involuntary eyelid and eye movements that people do) really help sell "this is a human." EDIT: saccades

Vor Monat
Just Dewitt
Just Dewitt

Absolutely

Vor Monat
arc
arc

Bad Travelling was my favourite love death robots episode ... the atmosphere, story and animation was just top tier (and it also was David Fincher's animation directorial debut!)

Vor 15 Tage
Insanity™
Insanity™

👍

Vor 13 Tage
Abel Báscones Salazar
Abel Báscones Salazar

4:48 ^this shot looks incredible ^ While showing the creepiest hand holding a glass in whole CGI record

Vor 13 Tage
mike literus
mike literus

We love you clint you bring some even more good vibe energy

Vor Monat
Rock girl
Rock girl

with their caricatures and stylization of the characters' faces, which I think is a VERY strong tie in to Wren's point about adding a twinge of stylization to really top off a scene.

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Lea With No H
Lea With No H

Please do "the witness" for the love death and robots episode. The cgi is a lot like Jibaro, but it's much more stylized and vibrant. It's got to be my favorite episode out of the entire anthology series

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Owen F
Owen F

I love to see breakdowns of the Love Death and Robots episodes; Snow in the Desert, Shape-Shifters, or Beyond the Aquila Rift

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R G
R G

That Love Death and Robots epsiode was spectacular. I had to watch it multiple times

Vor 16 Tage
RED_Racing 24
RED_Racing 24

I think one of the episodes you guys should really watch is episode 2, Volume 3. It looks for a lot of realism without actually being photorealistic mainly in the way people look and are. I loved it's style and I believe you guys will appretiate it. Also if it is worth something it has perhaps the best plot of the show

Vor 26 Tage
Rapid Readers
Rapid Readers

You guys should look at the VFX of _Everything Everywhere All at Once._ Apparently, all of the VFX was done by a small team of 5 people, some of which were done by the directors themselves. They even built a very low-budget version of Mandalorian's virtual set for the universe-jumping scenes.

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RikFTK
RikFTK

@Le Derp The VFX were done by six people without proper training, who learned most of it by watching YT tutorials. No cap.

Vor Monat
Mr.Bigboi
Mr.Bigboi

@Le Derp if you think that’s impressive, look at the stunt coordinators that worked on the film. Incredible talent.

Vor Monat
Mr.Bigboi
Mr.Bigboi

Yes please. It’s quickly becoming one of my favourite movies of all time.

Vor Monat
Theo
Theo

Big agree. They should look at the stunts too, the fight choreo is amazing. I bet the guys over at Martial Club (who did the stunts) would be willing to come on the show, they have their own YT channel!

Vor Monat
David Esteban
David Esteban

Can't wait to the reaction of the new She-Hulk trailer, for more Tatiana / 4th-wall-breaking CGI appreciation 😁👍

Vor 23 Tage
Merrygate
Merrygate

6:02 If I want to voice my opinion of something, I'm going to voice my opinion on it, I'm not going to stay quiet just because you think it's good. This is literally a show about *BAD CGI* you can't tell me not to talk about bad cgi

Vor 25 Tage
Hunter
Hunter

@patrick mahomes seems like you care though.... ya know, since you keep responding with how much you and sam don’t care.😕

Vor 7 Tage
Hunter
Hunter

@patrick mahomes there sure as hell is a reason, he’s part of a YouTube channel that specifically deals with this exact topic and improving on the shitty CGI... If they’re incapable of seeing what’s wrong with it and why people dislike a job done then he shouldn’t be doing the Job he has. You can’t improve what you refuse to see. The reason people are ticked off at his take is the same reason you puny mind is incapable of understanding why people dislike the shows take on she-hulk. Hypocrisy. “mY OpINiON iS tHE onLY VaLiD OnE!”

Vor 7 Tage
patrick mahomes
patrick mahomes

@Hunter There's no reason for Sam to care about a few Twitter girls complaining about their successful Youtube channel(s). Meanwhile, you can go back to screaming into your pillow, doing absolutely nothing. Seethe.

Vor 7 Tage
wholesome.footage
wholesome.footage

6:29 "What is triggering their minds [...]?" Easy: Her facial animation is too smoth. You know perfectly well that this shot should've been stacked with "jittery" micro expressions, yet it was rather stiff and rubbery, too + the green/s is/are debatable = uncanney valley. Could've worked, didn't work. Missed by a few inches.

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Josh Clark
Josh Clark

I'd say aquila's rift, shape shifters from s1, snow in the desert and life hutch from s2 and bad travelling, swarm, in vaulted halls for s3 of l+d+r are the ones that really push the boundary of realism imo I'd love an episode that includes those

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T H
T H

I didn't see the She-hulk trailer and had no priors on whatever controversy it drummed up. But the thing I IMMEDIATELY noticed in that one shot of her looking over her shoulder is that her clothes look so fake. Her suit and shirt look like they are made of rubber, and they don't move realistically as she turns which gives such a bizarre look. I don't think the character looks that bad actually.

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x340x
x340x

i think the way she walks (bumps up and down etc) is also responsible for looking bad. it looks like Pixar movie character walking

Vor Monat
Goldenkitten1
Goldenkitten1

@Casey Reuter You're correct but honestly I've never understood that business practice. Of course you need to get the name out there and start generating hype, but if you release it TOO soon you run the risk of massive fan backlash (which is exactly what happened). In the days of early CG making that mistake was understandable but how executives, particularly at a company like Disney and Marvel Studios who have been at the forefront of VFX for the last decade still push out an unfinished trailer and don't know it's going to do more harm than good is beyond me.

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Casey Reuter
Casey Reuter

I would bet that if that shot is in the show, and wasn't just made for the trailer, the clothes will be simulated. Got to remember that for trailers they are showing you parts of the show months in advance. Specifically the VFX which are some of the most time intensive things. They are cutting whatever corners they can to get it out for the trailer and have it presentable. The final product will probably have simulated clothes and more polished animation.

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FreelookUK
FreelookUK

@Sean Romahn That specific shot is more of an animation issue, her swivels her head unnaturally while her eyes move a little oddly. It's weird that they picked this shot for the trailer.

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Deadguy247
Deadguy247

Do them all! I would to watch the whole thing with you guys commenting

Vor 27 Tage
LshowKnows
LshowKnows

I think my 3 issues with the She Hulk trailer are: 1 - They could have given her a bit more muscle 2 - Some times the lighting doesn´t seem to sit well on the model, like the character isn´t really in that scene 3 - The hair is way too stiff

Vor 14 Tage
🏳️‍🌈⃠Anti Gay League
🏳️‍🌈⃠Anti Gay League

She should be a badass no manner

Vor 11 Tage
Shadow Child
Shadow Child

would you consider reacting to the Warframe cinematics? they absolutely blow me away and each time they release one the effects and cinematography have me enamored

Vor Monat
Ayyy Lmao
Ayyy Lmao

That “target acquired” sound effect brought back so many memories that I wasn’t expecting. Thank you counter strike: source for a lot of funny memories

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PM-55
PM-55

All the She-Hulk CGI shots looks great when they are frozen yes... when in motion it tickles the uncanny valley way too much. It's genuinely hard to watch for me specially next to Hulk's expressions and the movement of the character overall that even with it's flaws looks absolutely perfect in comparison.

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Cameron Joseph Videos
Cameron Joseph Videos

@EDBA 1.0 Which was exactly my point. The guy seems to have deleted his replies but he was saying how it had to be CG because you can't paint skin green and have it look natural.

Vor 16 Tage
EDBA 1.0
EDBA 1.0

@Cameron Joseph Videos gamora is pure make up, not CG

Vor 16 Tage
Geekdom Central
Geekdom Central

Yeah I'm a little shocked at how easily they're just waving it off. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they're "garbage", I do think that the internet is far too liberal with their use of that word. But there are multiple shots in the clips they play where it just looks off

Vor 23 Tage
Prod. Lucio
Prod. Lucio

@Supreme Lord of the Universe W it’s so bad

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Christine C.
Christine C.

Its* flaws.

Vor Monat
Alexis Nebs
Alexis Nebs

OMG! Please do Love death + Robots as a series. You can totally do a 3- to 4-episode series doing all the seasons of the show. Please, please, please! It is soooo difficult to just choose a couple!

Vor 22 Tage
Josh Allen
Josh Allen

For Love, Death, and Robots, the episode where it is the gladiator monsters being controlled by the people is awesome and would love a breakdown of it

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Commander Jane Shepard
Commander Jane Shepard

Tatiana Maslany appreciation video is accurate. 😂 She's super sweet in person (and tiny), but I'm so happy she's had the recognition even out of little old Regina, SK!

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SuperbaconX
SuperbaconX

if you’re gonna do love death and robots you have to do the secret war, it’s my favorite episode of the series and it looks almost real

Vor 9 Tage
TXF
TXF

My problem with the She Hulk cg, is that the movements look almost...too fluid? That, and the skin is like, TOO green? Like, it almost feels like they ripped a character from a slightly more cartoony looking cgi movie, and tossed her into this real life world and backdrop. And she just doesn't fit in. Even Hulk himself has a more natural looking faded green. Where as She Hulk is just a straight up cartoony green. Might also be down to there not being a lot of variation in her skin tone. I know she's a bright green comic book character, but real skin tone isn't just one color. It's a whole bunch of colors. Let's take a lighter skin face for instance. Might have that general peachy skin tone, but then you might see a bit of red around the checks and nose, some almost grey/blue around the eyes. Then add in the way the sun shines slightly through the skin, adding brighter reds here and there and stuff. Meanwhile She Hulk just looks...green. like Kermit the Frog green. No taking into account the blood under her skin subtly changing it's hue or anything. She just looks like a fake cgi character. Even when they do a great job of making her feel real, it still feels off.

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Steve Brown
Steve Brown

@GipsyQueen But that's the point he made. Obv women don't have perfectly smooth faces, but men commonly have more and larger wrinkles, stubble, etc. In the Disney+ version you can clearly see much more detail on her face. The YT compression removed a lot of the detail finer detail from her face whereas on his face, the larger details were still present because large wrinkles and large areas of stubble aren't wiped out by compression. They didn't just make a Barbie, it's the crappy video compression from Youtube.

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Diree
Diree

@GipsyQueen Right? It's like poor Wren has never seen a woman's face up close :( But he is right that stubble and beards just add so much detail ... things you'll likely not end up seeing from just a meter or two away... however the shots in the trailer were very close to her face.

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GipsyQueen
GipsyQueen

Completely agree. It seems like she's moving in a diferent gravity than ours, her body and movement don't seem as heavy as they should be. And I completely disagree with the coment Wren made abou womens faces being smoother. We also have facial hair, wrinkles, expression lines, different shades of our skin tone... so instead of making her look like a smooth perfect Barbie they could have made her more human.

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Anna_ in_Aotearoa
Anna_ in_Aotearoa

Yeah, agreed - for me it was probably more the slightly weird movement of the body (esp in the "superhuman" movement sections), like physics not quite working properly....? The earlier models of the He-Hulk (? is that the correct nomenclature? 😆) seem to behave similarly, with the newer ones seeming to have better physics simulation - maybe work on the new female version of the model could improve similarly over time as it's reiterated? And as you note, the level of opaqueness/saturation of the green skin also seemed to come and go between shots too, ouch. I don't know how much CGI resource is allocated to these types of shows, so perhaps various scenes end up having differing levels of time & staffing available, depending on where they fall within the show's season...?

Vor Monat
Richard Biocca
Richard Biocca

Here are the love death robots episodes with some of the best cgi I’ve seen in a while. Season 1: 2, 6, 12, 14, and 16 Season 2: 3, 4, 7, and 8 Season 3: 2, 6, 7, and 8 These are the episodes you guys should really look at

Vor 28 Tage
digilotl
digilotl

i appreciate the She-Hulk commentary and i am so sorry your comment section missed the points yall were making

Vor 16 Stunden
Daniel B
Daniel B

13:45 you can see it's two different legs really easily. The join is at the knee. Non of the knee wrinkles match, or affect the leg further down.

Vor Monat
Steve Luedeman
Steve Luedeman

So Constantine from 2005 came on the other day, I felt the effects hold up pretty well. I'd like to hear your guys opinions of the movie, especially the scenes where they're in hell. I like the way they stylized that entire world. Thoughts?

Vor Monat
no
no

Love that movie and agree with you

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Fleckeri
Fleckeri

I feel that her shades of green, while comic accurate, make her stand out more as a cgi character than she would otherwise (MCU's Hulk-green is especially muted by comparison). I do think it's easier to suspend the disbelief with Hulk for reasons mentioned (such as skin texture and hours of work done on him by now). I also think people saying this is ps2 cgi need to go boot a ps2 tho.

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alwaysxnever
alwaysxnever

@SuperSusBus that is a bummer for sure. I was hoping for maybe another 20 lbs of muscle on the characters.

Vor Monat
alwaysxnever
alwaysxnever

@Sadflix agree. The movements are off in over half the shots. Like instead of using a performance she is just hand animated.

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alwaysxnever
alwaysxnever

@JennyM1998 the skin tone is definitely a thing. If the crew wouldn't have mentioned compression I would be more bothered that they didn't discuss that. But skin textures seems to be Niko thing. Maybe he should have been on this one and not Sam.

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blofeld39
blofeld39

@TwistedCupid If you've watched one of Tatiana Maslany's interviews in the last... two years, or so, you will see her doing the exact same stuff with her face. Those are her facial expressions; it's part of the performance.

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JennyM1998
JennyM1998

yeah definitely too brightly green, also a bit too perfectly green? Skin isnt one consistent colour all over, maybe its the youtube quality but she seems to just be one shade of apple green

Vor Monat
SufficientHorseman
SufficientHorseman

I would love to see a full Love, Death and Robots episode. The Beastie fight from "Sonny's Edge" (s1), werewolf transformation in "Shape Shifters" (s1)... Actually you should do an episode per season. There's so much to take a closer look at!

Vor 10 Tage
Slices Santos
Slices Santos

love death robots s3 last ep is so epic. how did they the characters move so dramatically, like a violent dance. I would assume its someone dancing with mocaps but it just looks so extreme and dangerous

Vor Monat
Knowhere
Knowhere

i know it would probably take getting a special guest, but i would love to see a reaction to the opening scene of baby driver. no CG, just practical driving and stunts. maybe next time you have a stunt expert on?

Vor Monat
Singe the Cringe
Singe the Cringe

You guys have sold out and turned into Disney shills. Blaming the audience for their own low quality production is what they do these days.

Vor 20 Tage
PB&J
PB&J

I think the main issue with the She-Hulk trailer, besides the smoothing, is the green skin itself. It's a BIT too vibrant, and it's way too uniform! Real skin is splotchy and comes in tons of different shades. She has the same color all over! And I'm willing to bet the vibrancy was boosted by whoever put the trailer together, and the uniformity is a result of unfinished CGI. I'm sure it'll look great on release!

Vor Monat
Dancing Mathusalem
Dancing Mathusalem

I don't know how they can look at a shot like 7:36 and say it's fine when they're normally so critical, the lighting is wrong and her facial expression remind me of princess Fiona tbh, same for the shot a few seconds later where we're looking from the POV of her phone

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armpit_farts
armpit_farts

Im colorblind so it works for me lololol. Still dont want to see it and thats not trying to dunk like Sam was mentioning(which I agree with actually), just not my kinda movie personally.

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Jason Blalock
Jason Blalock

Personally, the hair is what's really off for me. I can accept that a mutated green giantess may have a different skin tone\texture from most people, but her hair looks like plastic in some of those shots. Or like she's used 1980s levels of hairspray. OTOH, hair is probably one of the last elements to get nailed down, so I think they can fix the VFX.

Vor Monat
Jaylen Mark
Jaylen Mark

It's just something abt her appearance just seems very off putting and makes her a bit more deepfake. And it also seems like Hulk looks more realistic than the main protagonist herself.

Vor Monat
Evan Brown
Evan Brown

For love death and robots I’d recommend reacting to three robots, the secret war, life hutch, bad traveling, and mason’s rats

Vor Monat
sirwinsalot
sirwinsalot

Please take a look at beyond the Aquila rift as back when it first came out it fooled me into thinking it was almost life like and it has some really impressive model detail.

Vor Monat
The_Shield89
The_Shield89

Would love to get a breakdown of VFX from The Golden Child(1986)

Vor Monat
Destroyer243 Productions
Destroyer243 Productions

I'd like to see a reaction to a movie called next gen. My sister found it on Netflix, and watching the final fight scene, there was a ton of detail put into the scene, but they focus more on drama than the fight. I also noticed a lot of things about it that just seemed anime-esque.

Vor Monat
Destroyer243 Productions
Destroyer243 Productions

@nieooj gotoy they already have

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nieooj gotoy
nieooj gotoy

You should do a segment on The Mask (1994). Some weird CGI!

Vor Monat
Art Dreese
Art Dreese

Also, for She-Hulk, what we're getting for a "show" is pretty incredible to think about. However, I think where the uncanny valley part comes in isn't in the textures or shaders, but rather in the animations of the face and body itself. The scene where she's in the office and she twists her torso, it looks like they just pivoted her whole torso rather than adjusting her shoulders (she doesn't lead with her shoulder, instead it just seems... flat as it twists, and unattached bio-mechanically to the head as it turns too.) The same goes for some of the facial expressions too... some of the facial movements are missing micro-expressions, or are just a little to mathematically smoothed, IMO. Again, though, for a series-show, going with a fully CG (mostly) human face is pretty ballsy and its possible that those were some early renders that will be fixed/finished when the show airs too.

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Spends Shanks
Spends Shanks

It’s incredible to get low quality CGI from a company that has billions upon billions of dollars? Doubt.

Vor 6 Tage
AK007-Drakoin101
AK007-Drakoin101

That’s what I think!

Vor Monat
Nanashi Ryuu
Nanashi Ryuu

They have friends who work with marvel and have had many marvel animators on the show who I'm sure have worked on she hulk. They most likely don't want to bash on their friends work. Most likely a bias because an untrained eye can easily tell the CGI in she hulk is very poor

Vor Monat
MrTwixplays
MrTwixplays

Can you react to Julian Bam BEICHTE-B-LOW please they have a fantastic VFX

Vor Monat
Kristoffer Eriksson
Kristoffer Eriksson

Maybe would've looked better if they didn't 100% animate she-hulk then? Maybe go with the Hobbit approach where she's a separate plate using scale and distance to make her look bigger? Then again it's a disney show so they probably want to make it quick and relatively light on budget.

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MyCraigslistVideos
MyCraigslistVideos

Can you tell when Wren, Sam, and Clint were recorded at different times and comped together to seem like they were sitting next to each other?

Vor 24 Tage
dcoog anml
dcoog anml

My favorite chapter from LDR is definitely "Bad Travelling". Would love to see you guys break that one down. Honestly... break down every single episode.

Vor Monat
Ol.Iv.
Ol.Iv.

YES, I immediately knew that you're gonna react to that LD&R episode the same second that I saw its gorgeous visuals lol

Vor Monat
Adam Schoales
Adam Schoales

Rewatched the OG Ghostbusters last night (I think you guys did Ghostbusters II at one point) but MAN the VFX in that film are amazing. Actually, to that end, might be worth chatting about Ghostbusters: Afterlife. Some CGI doubles/resurrecting the dead in that. (Unless you already did? it's hard to remember everything from the last 76 episodes...)

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VegaIllusion
VegaIllusion

I haven’t seen the She Hulk trailer, but from what you guys have shown I think it is the movement of the character. The smoothness is “problematic” sure, but you guys explained that topic perfectly. However the animation/movements and some of the color/contrast seems to be possible “real” problem.

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alwaysxnever
alwaysxnever

@M K but A private business doesn't have to keep her employed if they don't want to.

Vor 18 Tage
The Lover Boy
The Lover Boy

@ipraytovodka The website isn't even the massive issue as much as it being paywalled is. There is no free trial btw.

Vor Monat
Christine C.
Christine C.

@Cjspyker actresses. Women are actresses. We need to stop trying to erase gendered words and pretend that men and women aren't different.

Vor Monat
Happy Cynic.
Happy Cynic.

@Michael Zaite English? Do you speak it?

Vor Monat
Michael Zaite
Michael Zaite

@Happy Cynic. Who the Poster girl for long term concussion injuries affecting your behavior from The Mandalorean?

Vor Monat
4head
4head

"bad travelling" from S3 of LDR is very good, also the one called "the tall grass" from S2

Vor 19 Tage
blazen'thunder
blazen'thunder

Some episodes that would to be good to react to include beyond the aqulia rift, shape shifters, sonnie's edge, secret war, ice, and in vaulted halls entombed

Vor 15 Tage
Johannes Falk-Hansen
Johannes Falk-Hansen

For Love, Death, and robots, i Think you should look at episode 3 season 3. I really dig the style in that episode

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protoguy
protoguy

The Love and Robot work looks totally like it was made with AI

Vor 22 Tage
BakersTuts
BakersTuts

I am happy to see more Love Death and Robots. Please do more when you can!

Vor Monat
MrTwixplays
MrTwixplays

Can you react to Julian Bam BEICHTE-B-LOW please they have a fantastic VFX

Vor Monat
Tipicaljoel
Tipicaljoel

oats studio is sick to theres one eposide you need to look at

Vor Monat
SCRPYTHELORD
SCRPYTHELORD

F*CKING VICIOUS

Vor Monat
Rogério Penna
Rogério Penna

@Jesus Saves! no. By Jupiter Optimus Maximus and Sol Invictus, stop saying nonsense

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Jesus Saves!
Jesus Saves!

Your worries (yes, anxiety), depression, suicidal thoughts, EVERYTHING will melt away and be NO MORE when you lean on God and put your trust in him! When I have physical pain, I literally pray and the Lord quells it, that I am healed!! Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! People are bothered by his name. The world hates the truth and wants to continue living sinfully! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous.

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Hufnaar Atnaaf
Hufnaar Atnaaf

From LD&R: "Beyond the Aquila Rift" "The Drowned Giant" and "Zima Blue" although the last one is more like 2d animation, but the style is fantastic

Vor 16 Tage
Jo Morken
Jo Morken

I understood it to be done this way deliberately to just compress years of fairytales, both told and pictured, it is totally awesome. The way the faces go really unnatural and grotesque. Jumping in and out of realities and layers of story. I got that while watching it and I found it amazing. Like acid.!

Vor 20 Tage
Shawn Goff
Shawn Goff

Have you considered doing an _Artists React to Title Sequences_ episode? There are some really interesting ones out there

Vor Monat
Richard Craig
Richard Craig

I would absolutely love to see a spin-off series of good and bad CGI or animation in video games! Talk about the absolutely janky FMVs of Tekken 1, or the amazingly sublime FMVs of Soul Edge, or the phenomenal hand-keyed animation of the very first Virtua Fighter game (Wolf's ready stance still amazes me to this day, I swear it's more realistic than real life). There's so much to talk about, so much context to give with the dates these games came out and the limited tools available to developers vs Hollywood at the time. Even something as simple as how Metal Gear Solid just wiggled people's heads around for speech animation, yet it was surprisingly effective in conveying body language on limited hardware. SO MUCH TO EXPLORE!

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Benjamin Zarkhin
Benjamin Zarkhin

From what I'm seeing the She-Hulk effects look decent enough- it's the movement that ruins it. The Hulk is still mocapped to an extent from a real actor, which lends to much more natural and fluid motion, meanwhile fully rendered and animated She-Hulk feels very video game-y. Her movement feels stiff, her pauses are too dramatic and overall it feels more like a blend of scenes than a big long natural moveset.

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Danny McCook
Danny McCook

@Benjamin Zarkhin Because it does? You animate mocap data to look natural, i’m guessing the team is either still refining the CGI, or don’t have the budget to spend the amount t of time to refine it to perfection. Mocapping doesn’t mean you get the data and it looks perfect right out of the gate, it takes a shit ton of work to refine and make it look good in scene.

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Benjamin Zarkhin
Benjamin Zarkhin

@Churba S Why does it still look awkward as a result?

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Benjamin Zarkhin
Benjamin Zarkhin

@Danny McCook Then why does her movement look so stiff and artificial?

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Danny McCook
Danny McCook

I mean, you’re just literally wrong, she’s mocapped from the actress, not fully animated.

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Perfect Human Interface
Perfect Human Interface

I agree with you about it being the movement. Even if it *is* mocapped, it doesn't look great. It looks stiff and weirdly smoothed. Mocap still isn't a silver bullet, unfortunately.

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Edboy Movies
Edboy Movies

Not trashing the CG , but the "Oh" moment in the she hulk trailer reminds me of Evangeline Lily actually. And I think people are wrecking what they find to be the uncanny valley which I'd say the CG in the trailer can delve into sometimes and the compression smoothing out the textures. She may be a bit too green compared to Bruce whose a more muted green.

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jayson claypool
jayson claypool

For the Love Death and Robots episode PLEASE do the episode called "Bad Travelling". I'd love to hear your thoughts on the stylized reality similar to Jabaro, but different. 🤔

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Fardawg
Fardawg

We plebs need to be put in our place by our CGI masters and just love everything put in front of us, unless they crap on it first. How dare we have opinions on what we are asked to pay money for!?

Vor 29 Tage
seedofbayne
seedofbayne

The episode where the giant washes up on shore, and slowly decays. That was a good one. You should check that one out.

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Janky Vibes
Janky Vibes

I'm sorry she hulk in like all the clips you guys showed looked like she had movement from gta 4. And yes my expectation is that marvel is on top. They have been notorious for giving up on cgi while doing shows lately.

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Lennox Sommerville
Lennox Sommerville

Last marvel movie I saw was No way home cgi was garb in some spots and great in others (mostly the outdoor green screen shots) and so is she hulk

Vor Monat
Control Z
Control Z

GTA 4 looked better. Reminded me of the backstage segments from WWE Smackdown on PS2.

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E-K
E-K

For love death and robots episodes, you should watch The secret war, Snow in the desert, all through the house, and Bad traveling.

Vor 11 Tage
Justin Mayfield
Justin Mayfield

Corridor Crew - "Go easy on these people. Don't feel the need to dunk on them..." Also Corridor Crew five minutes later - "JORDAN!"

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wnazgul
wnazgul

With the leg, you can see that it gets some 2D feeling. There is also some distortion on her knee.

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EFG
EFG

If you guys are doing a Love Death and Robots dedicated episode I would LOVE to see your breakdown of ‘Shape Shifters’ from season 1!!

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Seth Yoder
Seth Yoder

The She-Hulk animation/facial animation looks off compared to the work they've done with rufffalo. Her expressions look very overexagerated and sometimes the animation of her body moving looks VERY unnatural. It sits in the uncanny valley which is why a lot of people are reacting negatively to it. Also we know Marvel can hit a full cg face to perfection, they've notably done it with thanos and hulk so for people to have that expectation isnt wild in the slightest. Its also possible the actress is overplaying her performance because of expectations. Something is off to the point that people notice and I think having a dismissive stance towards high expectation studios can be just as harmful of a stance as being over-critical.

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Michael Zaite
Michael Zaite

@papi chulo "TV budget" would mean just painting a damn woman green and doing some forced perspective gimmicks.

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Arkham Red
Arkham Red

@Am Her But they are VFX artists themselves who are giving their professional opinion,,,,doenst matter if you dont agree but dont try an act like this is just them tellin ppl to buzz off of Marvels backs

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The Imaginary Hulk (Deep Kumar - Hulk)
The Imaginary Hulk (Deep Kumar - Hulk)

@David Cooke They would rather lose their loyal veiwers than pissing off the Disney Overlords who might be their potential owner or Employer in the near future given their close ties with so many Disney/marvel Stuntmen being regular parts of the show...

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The Imaginary Hulk (Deep Kumar - Hulk)
The Imaginary Hulk (Deep Kumar - Hulk)

@Beckii They are afraid of being cancelled, Have U watched their hires recently??, Ticking every Check box to make the employees more diverse, The same goes here too, they actually want to work with Disney in the near future so they don't wanna piss them off, So they are pissing off their audiences, I feel sad for them...😅

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Cjspyker
Cjspyker

@Josh Florence perfectly said.

Vor Monat
wuoi zuiu
wuoi zuiu

made realistic at all and it makes it so much more interesting looking, its beautiful af

Vor Monat
Jonas Gustafsson
Jonas Gustafsson

Love, Death and Robots season 1 - Behind the Aquila Rift. It looks incredible! Otherwise the season 3 - Night of the Mini Dead is awesome 👍

Vor Monat
Serebanana
Serebanana

Cover the CGI episodes of Love, Death and Robots. That's what you're here to assess, so avoid the 2D animated ones, and focus on the pieces that have more realistic CGI in them!

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spamalot
spamalot

Not sure if you've looked at 2001's "13 Ghosts" but the set design and effects have always appealed to me. My favorite haunted mansion in film.

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Its Zee
Its Zee

SUCH AN UNDERRATED MOVIE! to ne honest it needs to be a show because they had to cram ap much into the movie and not a lot of explanation didn't get said. every ghost has a full backstory and most of them didn't even to be shown.

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Darren Bonanno
Darren Bonanno

It’s the tone of green that stands out to me. Idk if it’s comic book accurate or not, but I know that Hulks tone fits better and looks more realistic

Vor Monat
kebolaasere
kebolaasere

"in vaulted halls entombed" of season 3 definitely looked more real than Jibao

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