[UNTRIMMED] Piper PA-28 FLYING IN IMC + NORDO + LOW FUEL at Orlando

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    [23/JAN/2021]
    Piper PA28 (N32019) performing flight in the Orlando area reported going into clouds while VFR and requested IFR instructions to land at Orlando Executive Airport KORL. Controller vectored him to ILS25 but he didn't descend on the glideslope. Controller then tried to vector him for ILS7 but he crossed the localizer, descended below the MVA and proceeded for runway 13 after getting visual contact with the ground.
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Give a like for this amazing Orlando controller!! EDITED VERSION: https://youtu.be/H1qb0gjIcsc

Vor 2 Monate
Erik Bročko
Erik Bročko

Thanks for this untrimmed version! No Patreon-only BS, no sponsorships, just honest and high quality reporting. I wonder, which platform takes a bigger cut? Patreon or YouTube?

Vor 2 Monate
Code Blue
Code Blue

Both controllers involved handled and assisted an obviously overwhelmed pilot. Any credit is all for them.

Vor 2 Monate
Cessna688
Cessna688

Credit to the guy flying to miraculously not get into an unusual attitude. Everything else was a total cluster on his part.

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Kevin Baslee
Kevin Baslee

"Are you IFR qualified and capable?" May be qualified, not sure on the capable part! Glad he made it down safely!!

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Nick Gresla
Nick Gresla

I guess he clearly doesn’t understand the meaning of “IFR reserve fuel”

Vor 2 Monate
VA4Arab الطيران التشبيهي للعرب
VA4Arab الطيران التشبيهي للعرب

did he land without a landing clearnce ?

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VASAviation -
VASAviation -

No

Vor 2 Monate
1967retread
1967retread

Did he receive a phone number after he was safely on the ground?

Vor 2 Monate
Misss Marvel
Misss Marvel

Amazing Video, but SO hard to hear !!!

Vor 2 Monate
K. York
K. York

This guy's compass is clearly unreliable!

Vor 2 Monate
Alan Luster
Alan Luster

The tower controller debating with a stressed out pilot that he "...was not cleared for the approach" - during an EMERGENCY - did not help the situation. (Shit, he wasn't cleared to be flying IFR in the first place - so not being technically cleared for the approach was the least of his worries.) The tower controller could have verified the approach clearance himself, and just allowed the single pilot flying in IMC conditions to remain on his frequency, and concentrate on getting the airplane lower and keeping the needles centered. Instead, he [r]evoked the landing clearance he had given to the pilot twice, and then told the single pilot, in a  condescending tone, to flip-flop back and forth on the radios, just to call the approach controller and just to hear the words "Cleared for the approach". This effectively told the pilot who was critically low on fuel to go-around, and probably contributed to the pilot being too high on the first approach. The approach controller was more helpful - although I believe he put to much emphasis on whether the pilot was on the Localizer, whereas being on glideslope was the bigger issue. Assisting the pilot to get established on glideslope and getting below the cloud deck was more important than worrying about being below his sector MVA. (Luckily the pilot went below the MVA on his own EMERGENCY authority - so he could see the ground, [b]efore he ran out of gas.) Just think about what would have happened if the pilot climbed back up to the 1,600 MVA, that would have kept the pilot in clouds, and going around for a third approach was not an option, as he was critically low on fuel. Neither controller offered any assistance with the glideslope, nor offered any step-down assistance. It was obvious the pilot did not have any approach plates - as he did not even know the ILS frequency. REMEMBER: When you have an EMERGENCY, you can shoot an approach without a clearance, go below MVA and land without a clearance. You can explain it on the ground. AVIATE, NAVIGATE, then COMMUNICATE.

Vor 2 Monate
Alan Luster
Alan Luster

@SantaZeede Not true. ATC can declare an emergency for you - if the see then need. They do it a lot, I just listened to them do it recently as VAS aviation channel. Google it, or search the regs. In some airline cases, dispatch can even declare an emergency.

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SantaZeede
SantaZeede

@Alan Luster No, you have to say the words otherwise you do not get the priority. ATC is not allowed to declare an emergency for you.

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J G
J G

@Alan Luster Right, he never DECLARED an emergency.

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Alan Luster
Alan Luster

He said he had about 20 minutes of fuel remaining, while in IMC conditions, that implies an emergency. For example, if your engine falls off the plane - you don't have to say the word EMERGENCY - it can be implied.

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J G
J G

I don’t think an emergency was ever declared.

Vor 2 Monate
Poop
Poop

I've seen two commenters suggest the FAA pull his license completely. I don't agree. However, he should have to redo the IFR test and IFR checkride again with a FAA examiner, or different DPE. This is only for his safety and for the safety of others. Go/no-go is a huge deal when flying light aircraft. I've already had the embarrassment of a no-go early on, and it's not as bad as it seems. (Esp. once the hail comes down right after closing the hangar door)

Vor 2 Monate
Harris Jessop
Harris Jessop

some of the best work i have heard, outstanding job by these ATC's!!!

Vor 2 Monate
Isaac Dekine
Isaac Dekine

This is definitely Archie Award material

Vor 2 Monate
Ken Clark
Ken Clark

VASAviation question why do you say NORDO which means no radio communications? There is radio communication thus no NORDO

Vor 2 Monate
Justin Krezelak
Justin Krezelak

Instrument rated? What....like in Microsoft Flight Sim?

Vor 2 Monate
Andrew
Andrew

I have no idea what this pilot was thinking. No way he should have been flying that day. I just got my IPC after a year of not flying IFR/IMC since my plane was getting repaired from an incident. While I am now legal again in the eyes of the FAA, no way am I proficient enough to go into hard IMC. I hope that he does have a conversation with the FSDO and CFII and that he realizes how close he was to dying that day. I hope he learns from this and does not think that just because he is current, that he is also proficient. What can I say about ATC. Awesome proffesional job by ATC. These controllers deserve some recognition, and have my vote, for saving lives on this one.

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Cogito Ergo
Cogito Ergo

Kudos to the initial controllers. Very calm and professional. No exasperation or condescending attitude, which would have stressed an already over-stressed pilot who was clearly in over his head. Well played, sirs. Well played.

Vor 2 Monate
Mike Crake
Mike Crake

A lifesaver on the radio. That was almost a disaster. Great pro ATC right there. To get a small and safe idea of how this went go into flight sim near airport and play this video in imc in a single.

Vor 2 Monate
mattwebb02
mattwebb02

A lot of human factors in this event. The pilot sounds pretty shaken, the controllers very professional. Well done to all.

Vor 2 Monate
Jeff Lawson
Jeff Lawson

Great job by my local controllers for handling this situation. According to FlightRadar24, his flight path took him over University of Central Florida, the major shopping mall and the main tourist shopping areas and a mile or two from my house. Personally glad this worked out for the best. As I recall, on Saturday we only had very light rain and a low ceiling. Other than flying blind, the conditions were not as bad as it seemed.

Vor 2 Monate
bripilot34
bripilot34

Controller did a fantastic job - keeping calm and not overstressing the pilot. Pilot needs some serious recurrent training - sounds like very poor (or non-existant) pre-flight planning. That was scary and could've had a much more sad (and messy ending). For now the only thing messy is that pilot's pants.

Vor 2 Monate
depoultry
depoultry

Absolutely fantastic controllers - approach and tower. They truly deserve some recognition for their work, they undoubtedly saved lives that day.

Vor 2 Monate
Mark Talaga
Mark Talaga

Preflight Action - 91.103 it starts like this "Each pilot in command , shall before beginning of the flight, become familiar with all available information concerning the flight..." he did not (at least from hearing this communication) and that is violation of this regulation. Also 91.13 Careless and Reckless come to mind since he "endangered the life and property of another"

Vor 2 Monate
Chris Schack
Chris Schack

I have to wonder when the last time he checked his gyrocompass against the magnetic compass was ... he was constantly ending up left of course. That, or he was hand-flying it and needed more right rudder, I suppose.

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K. York
K. York

Yeah, the consistent heading deviations should have raised alarm bells early on in this flight!

Vor 2 Monate
Alexia
Alexia

This comes across as more terrifying compared with the trimmed video. Glad he’s safe and hoping this is his closest brush with disaster.

Vor 2 Monate
133dave133
133dave133

Non pilot question. Why does it seem like a lot of these planes come in with low fuel? Is this a payload thing?

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Scott H
Scott H

@133dave133 you would be surprised by some GA pilots total disregard for planning and decision making when it comes to making a flight. Mix that with the arrogance that they're capable of figuring it out as they go and you get these types of situations.

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Andrew
Andrew

@133dave133 Nope, you are not overlooking anything. Just poor planning on the part of the pilot.

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133dave133
133dave133

@Andrew That seems like a simple thing to have enough fuel. I thought maybe I was overlooking another reason for this.

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Andrew
Andrew

As stated already, poor planning. Yes, it can be a payload thing depending on how far you want to fly. The airplane he was flying, if it was just him, no reason to not take full fuel tanks, even for such a short flight. I always depart with as much fuel as I can for any particular flight.

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Scott H
Scott H

It’s a poor planning thing

Vor 2 Monate
scose
scose

33:52 the pilot forcefully rejects going back out for another approach. Good that he was still able to be assertive while stressed, disoriented, and possibly embarrassed. Otherwise could have turned into an Avianca JFK situation.

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

@scose he also stalled the aircraft and recovered from the stall without crashing. You could give him credit for recovering from a stall but I think it’s more important to point out that he stalled the aircraft in the first place.

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

@scose I think you are giving credit where no credit is deserved. This situations as entirely his own making, he only had a1/4 tank of gas when he took off, he was not able to fly an ILS, or even hold an assigned heading, he didn’t have a flight plan or suitable IFR charts and hadn’t noticed that it was overcast at 500’, but against all the odds he didn’t crash.

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scose
scose

@Fragile Crystal it seems like you are ignoring the specificness of my original comment.

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

@scose he had 2 tries at flying an ILS and couldn’t do it, in the end he was pointed towards the airfield by ATC and he descended blindly, hoping he would spot the airport before he flew into an obstacle or ran out of fuel. I would not describe that as doing something right. The most likely outcome was a crash, but he got very very lucky and landed at an airport.

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scose
scose

@Fragile Crystal yeah he made bad decisions, I'm just pointing out one thing he did right

Vor 2 Monate
Adam R
Adam R

Orlando was low ifr almost all day yesterday

Vor 2 Monate
LowG
LowG

Regular folks have no way of appreciating the skill sets it takes to fly single pilot IMC. And lord help us rusty pilots. All grounded by COVID

Vor 2 Monate
Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

And take more than a 1/4 of a tank of gas and some IFR charts with you. And align your DG with the compass before you take off! Or maybe just stay on the ground

Vor 2 Monate
LowG
LowG

Amen!

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

If you’re not current don’t take off into 500’ overcast cloud

Vor 2 Monate
gomphrena -beautiful flower-
gomphrena -beautiful flower-

The camaraderie between pilots is legendary. But when dicey situations present themselves, the relationship between ATC and pilot goes on steroids. Surely ATC gets hyper-situationally aware on his/her end, just as the pilots do on their end. ATC must realize they may be the last communications of the pilot...ever, and I love how they stay so calm, professional, and helpful. One might say that’s just their job, and it is. But it never hurts to offer a pat on the back or a few kind words for - however expected - a job well done. Thanks, Victor, for providing this unusual but interesting untrimmed version. I was on the edge of my seat each time I heard that low altitude alert!

Vor 2 Monate
Paul Hood
Paul Hood

awesome job to the controller, true save there

Vor 2 Monate
Samira Sorchia Ireland
Samira Sorchia Ireland

Control did great but I do have to give the pilot kudos as well. He recognised he had a situation and needed to do what was necessary to avert any problems. While he may not have loads of IFR experience, I highly doubt he expected too use it this day. He did very well.

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Scott
Scott

He flew himself into a desperate situation and by pure luck and good ATC he managed to survive. If that’s your standard for doing “very well”, than I think you should re-evaluate your expectations.

Vor 2 Monate
Scott Francis
Scott Francis

This had all the makings of an accident investigation video! Poor guy was probably too busy crying with relief to even remember to use the radio with that runway in sight and finally on the ground. Hopefully, he'll practice his IR more frequently now.

Vor 2 Monate
Zander Lane
Zander Lane

Holy hell... He should have just been honest! Doesnt seem to be even VFR let alone IFR. He is so lucky to be alive, and that he didn't take others with him! Wow!

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Jonathan H
Jonathan H

The sky is full of these idiots. It makes the job so much harder.

Vor 2 Monate
opl500
opl500

Florida Man in IMC...

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Dheeraj Lalwani
Dheeraj Lalwani

I use Orlando Approach’s services on a daily basis. The approach guys on 119.4, 119.77 ,135.3, 124.8 and 132.65 are absolute rockstars.

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Jonathan H
Jonathan H

Thank you and you’re welcome!

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ngtflyer
ngtflyer

I am glad I came over here to hear the untrimmed audio, especially the positive comments from other pilots and between ATC. You could hear the air of relief on the radio after the 019 landed.

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

Me too. The unedited recording is soooo much worse.

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stormysrider
stormysrider

He owes that controller an entire case of whatever he likes to drink!

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Francis Arrigo
Francis Arrigo

Thank goodness he had an autopilot. This wouldn’t have lasted long if he was hand flying.

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Shay Spicher
Shay Spicher

He was hand flying

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Francis Arrigo
Francis Arrigo

@VASAviation - I was thinking the same thing but with the stress of that workload and the missed , it’s hard to believe he didn’t lose it. Thanks for all your work

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VASAviation -
VASAviation -

Given the issues to maintain heading and altitude, I don't think he was using autopilot

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scose
scose

This poor pilot, flying untrimmed for 40 minutes. His arms must be so tired.

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Hisham Hassan
Hisham Hassan

IMC is no joke..

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Dean Brown
Dean Brown

Fantastic job by both controllers, but especially the approach controller at the very end after the pilot could not track inbound on the ILS 7.

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Francis Arrigo
Francis Arrigo

Holy smokes. What a lucky guy. This could have been disastrous. Great work controllers. Juan and Dan are going to be all over this......

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freakfly23
freakfly23

This guy flew in from Virginia and is on his way back now. He is why our insurance is so high.

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556to762
556to762

Nice. More untrim vid plz=)

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Jose Omar
Jose Omar

I hope the FAA gives this guy a 709 ride. It appears that he might able and capable to fly IFR but not proficient. I've been to situation like this where I took off VFR but while enroute the weather became questionable. I would had called flight services and file an IFR and get an updated weather. In this case he could had requested a pop up IFR from the controller directly.

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J
J

What's a 709 ride? Like a reward?

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apfelsnutz
apfelsnutz

Piper 2019 CALL THE NUMBER.........

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apfelsnutz
apfelsnutz

The controller guys are too nice...!

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

They saved a life today.

Vor 2 Monate
apfelsnutz
apfelsnutz

Cleared for the approach...with out ils instrumentation !!! No glide scope...who's kidding who ?

Vor 2 Monate
Kevin Rice
Kevin Rice

I sent this to VASAviation. I was flying N81991... I think this guy 100% lied about being IFR, and needed to declare an emergency. 32019 called with 3 souls and one hour of gas. All pilots on frequency felt this. I know I was scared. I honestly thought I was going to listen to the death of a fellow pilot. I called Orlando when I got on the ground and told them they saved 3 lives. They were well aware. GET IFR, GET CURRENT, DON’T BE A STATISTIC Super grateful to the amazing controllers I get to talk to on a daily bases.

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Austin Byrd
Austin Byrd

I'm not judging this pilot - he said he was Instrument rated and current, so let's go with that. Maybe he thought he could get where he planned under the clouds. I don't know. What I do know is that flying in IMC, maintaining alt and assigned headings, communicating, navigating, and worrying about running out of fuel, isn't easy, and for a marginally current instrument pilot, a life-threatening situation in a PA-28. He kept it going until a safe landing, even though he struggled. So good job to you pilot. He didn't plan on being IFR/IMC, so it seems he didn't have the plates to fly the ILS 25, then they turned the runway around to ILS 7. So he didn't know the crossing altitudes for the ILS, and he wound up too high, but he managed to get on the ground. I think you can be technically current, but not close to ready to be in real IMC and fly approaches to 500ft ceilings with no charts. If anything, the FAA should require an instrument proficiency check with an FAA examiner. This wasn't in the newspaper or local TV. He went home for dinner. So great job pilot, and ATC.

Vor 2 Monate
mike xs
mike xs

Because that's the attitude to have in aviation, "Well he didn't die so great job". Yikes. This pilot did a terrible job of just about everything and has no business being back up in the air without additional training.

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

@Evan M luckily he had very little fuel left so there wouldn’t have been much of a fire, just a lot of twisted tin.

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Wayne Mayo
Wayne Mayo

@Fragile Crystal Certainly appeared so, or not current, but he SAID he was when queried by ATC.

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Evan M
Evan M

@Cj Clos you remember wrong then, it’s less than 3sm OR less then 1000ft ceilings. Don’t need both, just one or the other

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Evan M
Evan M

He survived this by dumb luck and great atc controllers. He deserves and gets no credit for this. 99% of the time this ends up with a flaming ball of metal and atleast the pilot, if not others, dead. Likely will lose his license for this and he shouldn’t fight it. Time to let others do the flying for him

Vor 2 Monate
Interceptor11
Interceptor11

This idiot could have killed ppl. I hope the FAA Yanks his license

Vor 2 Monate
Jemand
Jemand

Everyone here is saying he wasn't IFR qualified. I don't think this is the issue here. He can't even fly a heading or climb to an altitude. I think there was something else going on here. Maybe dementia or even a little stroke... I mean he already was on the ILS and didn't make it down.

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Jemand
Jemand

@Cody Bancroft I know all that. I'm not saying I'm a pilot. All I'm saying is someone who is a pilot should be able to at least fly a heading. And if you know about all these illusions (and he didn't have faulty instrumentations!!!) then you should be able to fly IMC. How else would thousands of pilots do it? How would airliners not crash if it was as hard as you suggest?!

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Cody Bancroft
Cody Bancroft

@Jemand great, now try it real life, in IMC with potentially faulty instrumentation. Microsoft Flight sim doesn't simulate somatogyral illusions or coriolis illusions.

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Jemand
Jemand

@Cody Bancroft not saying it developped in flight, maybe he was suffering from it whithout recognizing it for a longer time. It happens. And honestly, who can't fly a heading?! I did that after 40 minutes of Training in FSX.

Vor 2 Monate
Cody Bancroft
Cody Bancroft

Doubt it was medical, he read everything back 100% correctly. No slurred words (not likely a stroke), in dementia, most severe onset takes years, not minutes. He wouldn't pass a physical with dementia. He mentioned on the first ILS approach attempt that his obs needle strayed away from the Localizer and after the first go around, that's when he started having major heading and altitude issues. Who knows, definitely wasn't familiar with the airspace, didn't seem to have charts, paper or digital. Genuinely unprepared for IMC conditions, lack of fuel, no charts, and potentially instrument issues.

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Godzilla032
Godzilla032

Id say the combination of spacial disorientation in imc and stress of the situation wouldnt have helped.

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Thomas Charlton
Thomas Charlton

Wow!

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Fly gal
Fly gal

Why? Great controllers for keeping him calm. Thank you atc!

Vor 2 Monate
Gregorius
Gregorius

Wow. Kudos to the approach controller for landing the plane :-) Great work.

Vor 2 Monate
Kim Heran
Kim Heran

be prepared before you take off and land

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ElitistMagi
ElitistMagi

major kudos to ATC

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Vincent Groenewold
Vincent Groenewold

I guess this immediately results in some kind of investigation towards the pilot? Repeats everything correctly, doesn't execute.

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Zsombor Kaló
Zsombor Kaló

Hm, when not familiar to the airspace and feels lost, why not panpan-ed due to low fuel.

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Cody Bancroft
Cody Bancroft

Think he was already having issues on top of the ones you mentioned, definitely lost focus.

Vor 2 Monate
Ron G
Ron G

Wow. This can be a lesson for other pilots on at least 10 things NOT to do

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Jeff Kelley
Jeff Kelley

I would like to know if he got in trouble for this. Did not seem IFR capable to me. How was he able to take off with a 500 ft ceiling VFR in the first place?

Vor 2 Monate
Mauricio Felicio
Mauricio Felicio

I really dont understand why some pilots insist in fly ifr conditions without experience.

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Dutch Steamboat
Dutch Steamboat

You get to meet lots of new people.

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David Boyd
David Boyd

Am I the only one who saw the thumbnail and title and thought "untrimmed" was referring to the aircraft and not the video?

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Максим Черепанов
Максим Черепанов

Initially, i think so too.

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Максим Черепанов
Максим Черепанов

Initially, i think so too.

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H
H

Well i didn't really see the title bc i was referred from the trimmed video so i just clicked on the link

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Zsombor Kaló
Zsombor Kaló

No you aren't.

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A R
A R

When you have that kind of desperate efforts to make it to the airport, you were choosing life over anything else. Glad he landed safely.

Vor 2 Monate
Jojo Smith
Jojo Smith

Whew, that controller on approach had a handful and then some. Through it all, he maintained his cool and got the pilot on the ground.

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Darin
Darin

I’m so confused. This pilot did not seem like he was a certified pilot let alone ifr rated. Just the lack of coms on the ground and taxi from an active without clearance alone tells me something is wrong. Glad he made it back but wow, he almost didn’t.

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A R
A R

@Darin sorry I meant unprepared

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Darin
Darin

@A R I must of missed that part. He didn’t follow approach plate altitudes, he was too low on fuel, approach gave him all the frequencies. He busted minimum safe altitudes. Also approached had to ask multiple times if he had the localizer.

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A R
A R

I wonder if that was his first actual approach in hard imc in a while? Also seemed like he was unprepared/ unexpect for imc (Extra gas, approach plates, etc).

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Raphaël Maure
Raphaël Maure

Poor guy, he was completely lost. It looks a bit like some VATSIM pilots seen from there, but this happened IRL...

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Cody Bancroft
Cody Bancroft

Think he was from Virginia, not sure if he had charts and maybe an obs issue onboard, he mentions having needle issues during the first attempt. He also reads everything back correctly and just poorly executes, and maybe region unfamiliarity.

Vor 2 Monate
Joshua Black
Joshua Black

This guy is damn lucky. He shouldn’t have been flying, nor should he have told ATC he was capable of IFR flight. It would’ve saved him a lot of headache attempting to fly an approach he had no clue how to fly.

Vor 2 Monate
ngtflyer
ngtflyer

Shouldn't be flying into those conditions. But at least he did reach out to ATC for help and ATC did a stellar job getting him down safely.

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Peter Gardner
Peter Gardner

You made this video so we would see how hard it is to hear what they're saying and be able to add subtitles 😆

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James Harber
James Harber

Orlando Controller deserves an official commendation for his patience, professionalism and for taking a pilot from desperation to being safe and sound on the ground. I am a pilot.

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NNY Radio
NNY Radio

Does this guy even have a license? My lord...

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Eddie Lopez
Eddie Lopez

@David Webb landing a plane safely is always an expectation for professional pilots, yet we commend them when they land in the face of exceptionally challenging circumstances. It’s ok to be gracious and commend critically important ATC job performance when it is exceptional relative to the circumstances. One justification is that recognition plays an important role in maintaining a motivated workforce. Another is that it highlights model performance for less experienced employees. It also costs you nothing other than the chance to be a d*ckhead. There are a multitude of justifications for commendation that can be seen clearly if you’re not intent on wearing your a**hole like a hat.

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Mike Crake
Mike Crake

10/4

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Glenn Mc
Glenn Mc

@L.M. Malcolm I provide life saving instructions to 90% of my emergency callers on a daily basis and I don’t expect commendations .. But this controller.. he actually saved someone(s) life from another NTSB report.. I agree they need to be recognised for it.

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Dheeraj Lalwani
Dheeraj Lalwani

I use Orlando Approach’s services on a daily basis. The approach guys on 119.4, 119.77 ,135.3, 124.8 and 132.65 are absolute rockstars.

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لا اله الا الله
لا اله الا الله

Checking the weather before flying is real IMPORTANT!

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Clint
Clint

And fuel. Guy was low fuel almost immediately after takeoff.

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Adam K
Adam K

I can’t recommend this enough. You’d be surprised the amount of pilots who don’t even bother to get weather briefings.

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Bastien Labarde
Bastien Labarde

1st !

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