Twitch Makes a Decision That Shocks Everyone

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First Name Last Name +6495
First Name Last Name

The thing with twitch is that the ads make you miss a ton of content. You could miss a joke or the final match of a tournament and you can’t rewind.

Vor 11 Monate
honey sweet +58
honey sweet

true,,,,

Vor 11 Monate
Moxie Havok +730
Moxie Havok

yeah all they need is a rewind feature and then the ads wouldn't be that bad or some option to pause the content during ads, and then watching at 1.25x speed until you catch back up.

Vor 11 Monate
Nadzrul Azim +418
Nadzrul Azim

they should add reminder to streamer that an ad will play soon so streamer can stop or take a break while the ad run

Vor 11 Monate
ikkue +223
ikkue

@Moxie Havok This exactly. Give me the option to rewind the stream and change playback speed right in the livestream like on YouTube. Not having to go to the Videos tab of that channel and click on the VOD of that livestream which doesn't even update its length until you refresh it again.

Vor 11 Monate
OGICEY +30
OGICEY

@Nadzrul Azim they do have this but only if the creator has the twitch “creator manager” tab open.

Vor 11 Monate
Bmxchrome +906
Bmxchrome

It's amazing how Mogul mail can sneak into Ludwig's office and not get caught over and over again

Vor 11 Monate
MTDNinja99 +23
MTDNinja99

Nah, Ludwig is sneaking into his.

Vor 11 Monate
bread +5
bread

@MTDNinja99 we'll never know

Vor 11 Monate
Dubbo +25
Dubbo

Ludwig was killed by mogul mail yesterday… he cant get caught anymore

Vor 11 Monate
peinutz
peinutz

@Dubbo can you explain?

Vor 11 Monate
Xanderqwerty123 +1102
Xanderqwerty123

Im so glad mogul mail is over 1 mil. I love when small, up and coming creators get big!

Vor 11 Monate
GlizzieMcGuire +11
GlizzieMcGuire

This joke and all the other one note jokes on others channels ie Destiny is a girls name are so tiring. Yall are basically bots at this point

Vor 11 Monate
Sub-Zer0 +1
Sub-Zer0

PFFFFFT now that is how you do a joke

Vor 11 Monate
Jess +18
Jess

@GlizzieMcGuire they just wanted to make someone laugh! i dont think it’s such a bad thing haha

Vor 11 Monate
Armored_Guy +22
Armored_Guy

@GlizzieMcGuire It’s a running gag with his channel and channels like this. I don’t see why it’s such an issue. I get where your coming from but that’s where the beauty of the platform comes in because you can just scroll and pretend you didn’t see it

Vor 11 Monate
Niels Miedema +551
Niels Miedema

I honestly am not that interested in news like this, but the way Ludwig is able to make this news seem interesting makes me absolutely love these vids and i keep watching them. You can really see Ludwig has the talent of a good news reporter. Keep up the good work, im lovin it!

Vor 11 Monate
Etym +62
Etym

Who's ludwig? This is mogul mail

Vor 11 Monate
Frosty +32
Frosty

@Etym Idk either. This commenter is clearly insane. If they said "Mogul Mail" instead of "Ludwig" though, I could get behind that. Mogul Mail is very talented.

Vor 11 Monate
Armored_Guy +9
Armored_Guy

@Frosty what is this “Ludwig” you guys are referring to

Vor 11 Monate
Frosty +3
Frosty

@Armored_Guy Why are you asking me? I just said I didn't know...

Vor 11 Monate
Armored_Guy +8
Armored_Guy

@Frosty yeah but I was womdering if you know what a “Ludwig” is? Is it perhaps a type of disease or maybe a sex object per chance.

Vor 11 Monate
Snatch +92
Snatch

Congratulations for 1 mil Lud! Very impressive, especially for a side channel. I'd also like to add that this channel is one of the most informative, interesting, and well-made news channels that I've ever watched. Thanks for everything!

Vor 11 Monate
5ilky +22
5ilky

what do you mean? this is mogul mail, not ludwig

Vor 11 Monate
Sundae +14
Sundae

Who is ludwig? This is mogul mail lol

Vor 11 Monate
Lucca
Lucca

who is lud?

Vor 10 Monate
R - G - C
R - G - C

It's basically a second main channel at this point since the content are very different.

Vor 10 Monate
DDUBS +126
DDUBS

This channel has to be one of the best on the platform, thankyou for keeping us updated ludwig!

Vor 11 Monate
spongee +18
spongee

Ludwig? Who’s Ludwig?

Vor 11 Monate
john welch +11
john welch

Ludwig has brown hair

Vor 11 Monate
NoName +2
NoName

The best in spreading misinformation and lies you mean ? Still no update regarding how all the Bayonetta 3 VA claims have been found out to be lies.

Vor 11 Monate
Arugula
Arugula

@NoName ludwig never said anything about bayonetta tho?

Vor 11 Monate
oliver +5685
oliver

So proud of Mogul Mail for his really fast channel growth and now he's able to do ad sponsorhips

Vor 11 Monate
Curious Lamp +40
Curious Lamp

guess he's not a one take jakeblakecake anymore

Vor 11 Monate
Recitation To Hear +13
Recitation To Hear

Link to why ur parents left u : https://youtu.be/HvyqYJ4Iv48

Vor 11 Monate
Chase Weeks +15
Chase Weeks

He just ran a sponsorship because he messed up the take and didn’t want to do it over again.

Vor 11 Monate
Galaxy 1034 +75
Galaxy 1034

I agree. I do think he is piggybacking off of ludwig tho. They do look really similar

Vor 11 Monate
Rasmus Busk Ladefoged +11
Rasmus Busk Ladefoged

Little add on: a Big part of the issue with the x min of adds per hour is also that they’re automated so they’ll interrupt a stream at bad times with the creators not having any control of when it’ll happen which will ruin the experience for everyone involved… (as I understand it at least)

Vor 11 Monate
Grace +2
Grace

Streamers can preemptively run ads when it's more convenient for them and that will cancel the next ad break from what I've heard

Vor 11 Monate
koiun dwrru +4
koiun dwrru

Congrats on 1 mil Mogul Mail, can't wait for you to overtake Ludwig

Vor 10 Monate
Pink Ward +112
Pink Ward

My biggest issue with Shorts is not knowing how they effect other videos you post. Because a short does really badly, does that mean my next youtube video is gonna do badly? Similar to how if a regular video does badly, the algorithm is less likely to push your next video, or what I've experienced in the past.

Vor 11 Monate
Bah humbug +4
Bah humbug

If your content is real good people will watch just keep goin 🙏

Vor 11 Monate
deV14nt +2
deV14nt

I think some channels have hedged their bets there by having a separate shorts channel

Vor 10 Monate
Perła Widmowa
Perła Widmowa

@Bah humbug not as simple if it gets less views one time you could be doomed by youtube and lose a large part of revenue its really risky

Vor 10 Monate
LL Game Shows!
LL Game Shows!

No, shorts and videos are not related at all. They're algorithms don't affect each other

Vor 7 Monate
Hanna +1991
Hanna

You've become one of my favorite YouTubers in a period of 2 weeks. Good shit. Absolutely hilarious and informative!

Vor 11 Monate
Shwitz +3
Shwitz

Comment after watching

Vor 11 Monate
NerdMachine +97
NerdMachine

definitely better than Ludwig

Vor 11 Monate
james_arts +114
james_arts

if you enjoy mogul mail you may like this small youtuber named ludwig

Vor 11 Monate
AaaAa +9
AaaAa

You’ll probably love this one smaller streamer/YouTuber, Ludwig!

Vor 11 Monate
Sahil Ithape +2
Sahil Ithape

Check out Ludwig, very underrated youtuber

Vor 11 Monate
Seb +45
Seb

Really appreciate how you handle referring to other channels. Use a clip to get a point across, and then tell people to check it out. Nice and simple. Just also put the links in the description in the future!

Vor 11 Monate
El Capitan
El Capitan

He will soon be on the level of the Pepega react lord staring blankly at a video for 20 min and closing it without a word

Vor 11 Monate
Samuel Campbell
Samuel Campbell

i actually really appreciate your breakdown of this bc as a viewer ive been a bit confused and not understood the ad incentive program and why it’s so appealing to so many smaller streamers but your explanation made total sense, thank you!

Vor 11 Monate
Saiegel +4
Saiegel

Good to see that Mogul Mail is growing so well. Love the format. Now on twitch issues with the apps, why don't they add a feature that notify the streamers when the ads are going to start and this way the can take a break and not interrupt the stream for everyone that is watching at that time.

Vor 11 Monate
MrEshah
MrEshah

Unless the streamer pushes the show ads button themselves, everyone watching are going to get the ads on different time. Fairly sure it's a "amount of time watched" trigger that pushes mid-rolls on viewers.

Vor 11 Monate
J W +11
J W

1 mil subs in a year is a great accomplishment. Keep doing what you're doing, the content is amazing.

Vor 11 Monate
MacAndSteez +8
MacAndSteez

I think if streamers included the ad structure into their stream format this could really incentivize people to subscribe/ get turbo. For the duration of the ads the streamer could momentarily pause the activity they are doing & the ad break could be used to actively chat & interact with the chatters for the whole time. Subscribers feel better cause they get to interact with the streamer, non subs feel better cause they’re not missing out on content, and twitch is happy because money. Basically just turn the ad time into community & chat time.

Vor 11 Monate
MoneyOnSquirtle +2
MoneyOnSquirtle

This seems like a good idea until you actually try to do it. To tailor literally everything you do on stream to ads makes the content suffer. There are very few forms of content this actually could work alongside.

Vor 11 Monate
R - G - C
R - G - C

Let's say you are fighting an intense boss battle, and someone in chat says there's an ad, well you pause the game and start chatting with your chat, and after the ad, you continue fighting the boss battle like nothing happened, it isn't gonna affect much anyway.

Vor 10 Monate
MacAndSteez
MacAndSteez

@R - G - C I more so mean that if streamers are given the option of when the ad break takes place they can strategicly place it during the less important parts of the stream or after something important. For example they could put it right after the boss fight, shoot the shit with subscribed chatters for a couple minutes, while non subs just chill out & watch some ads knowing they’re not really missing out on any content.

Vor 10 Monate
MoneyOnSquirtle
MoneyOnSquirtle

@MacAndSteez Youre given options pre stream, and can manually place them during stream but what if you cant pause the game? I literally deal with this on a daily basis.

Vor 10 Monate
MacAndSteez
MacAndSteez

@MoneyOnSquirtle oh okay cool so then how do you go about deciding when you want to take an ad break? What do you do during that time?

Vor 10 Monate
Mako +23
Mako

Great Job Mogul Mail on hitting 1 Million in such a short time you deserve it

Vor 11 Monate
HarryBlock_ +16
HarryBlock_

It's great news that mogul mail has finally taken over Ludwig's channel. About time.

Vor 11 Monate
Potatoe Overlord +7
Potatoe Overlord

I've always found it odd that Twitch makes you watch an ad when you enter a stream. Seems like it would discourage people from giving something a chance or browsing around if they know they'll immediately have to watch an ad.

Vor 11 Monate
Aaron M
Aaron M

Like 50% I never watch twitch. I have a hard time just dropping into a stream unless I have a very specific reason to be there (special event, I know them irl, some kind of drop) and when the first thing I see is 50 seconds of ads I’m usually just gonna dip

Vor 10 Monate
R - G - C
R - G - C

Youtube: o_o

Vor 10 Monate
Miss Palindrome +311
Miss Palindrome

I've actually been watching these videos as well as MoistCritical's for information on streaming platforms, because I'm currently trying to decide where to start based on what will work best for me, and it's crazy how much things have been changing over the last few months. This video has been incredibly informative, thank you. And early congrats on 1 million subs, dude! 🎉

Vor 11 Monate
Eli +26
Eli

To grow I'd suggest twitch and using shorts and tiktoks to announce you're live, YouTube isn't friendly to new players in the field for growth, twitch is pretty friendly and tiktok is very friendly, use twitch and tiktok to build an audience that you then bleed into YouTube, YouTube being the end goal for "stable" growth I'd say, but if you are doing exceptional on a platform I'd focus on that one

Vor 11 Monate
Alexandre Bélair
Alexandre Bélair

Where to start? Youtube but keep in mind, it won't work out.

Vor 11 Monate
Alexandre Bélair
Alexandre Bélair

@Eli Why would anyone watch her tho?

Vor 11 Monate
Vibe +2
Vibe

Post your clips on tiktok and try to get your viewers to post your clips on tiktok Obviously it's an amazing method seeing as how successful Adin Ross and Speed are

Vor 11 Monate
lengthyApple +1
lengthyApple

Stream on both and post YouTube highlights.

Vor 11 Monate
Robert RN +7
Robert RN

Ludwig is the master of making a small channel into a big one in a small ammount of time, one of the best contents from youtube is right here.

Vor 11 Monate
Brendol Breadwar
Brendol Breadwar

I love this channel. Literally get the old feeling of seeing pewdiepie upload or xqc live. Best source for news on the platform!

Vor 11 Monate
Stephen Donaldson +1
Stephen Donaldson

What I appreciate about Ludwig, that many may be overlooking, is that he’s one of the only modern essayists. And his essays are thought through and are attempting to make progress in the world. Thanks Lud.

Vor 11 Monate
Mira +1
Mira

Who is lud

Vor 11 Monate
Mockedarche +3
Mockedarche

Love this channel. I love sources were people really inform people about things they know.

Vor 11 Monate
Narasthenics +520
Narasthenics

Wow I can't believe this mongol mail lad made it this far from scratch, truly an inspiring success story.

Vor 11 Monate
Recitation To Hear
Recitation To Hear

Link to the clip : This is the best platform : https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU

Vor 11 Monate
Michael Ironsights +18
Michael Ironsights

Mongol Mail should do some throat singing 😂😂

Vor 11 Monate
Zachary Moerder +2
Zachary Moerder

I get the joke and all... but like he did tho didn't he? like it was all him all along lol 😆

Vor 11 Monate
Tiia Maria +3
Tiia Maria

mongol mail is a dude ludwig wouldn't even dream of being since he doesn't even know mongol

Vor 11 Monate
Dan +3
Dan

People always ask how ludwig does that with his fingers, but mongel mail will make ur toes curls

Vor 11 Monate
Nalydtl
Nalydtl

The issue with the twitch ads is almost every person I know would just simply not watch twitch and would instead watch clips from other platforms to get the experience they want without ads and then have a small number of creators they sub to. Netflix and other streaming services first got popular by a lack of ads and huge selection but now there’s so many content platforms with their own “premium” that people don’t want to pay for a billion things. I think the better option would be to have the creators start running less intrusive ads such as the minibar pop ups that YouTube uses, maybe chat ads that will scroll with chat (although I don’t like the idea of chat clutter), and optional banner or bar ad placements for the creator that would take up space in their descriptors below the stream. Include the occasional midroll or whatever but don’t increase it to 5+ minutes where it takes so much time that most people will get distracted or move to another platform or activity. To be clear these aren’t amazing ideas by any means but they’re different ideas that come from a consumer who generally only watches twitch clips or my 2 streamers I’ve chosen for the month 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Vor 11 Monate
nbi
nbi

i dont go on twitch for a number of reasons, but one of the big ones is how intrusive the ads are. now that i know some creators can make up to 43k an hour i dont feel AS bad about how intrusive they are.

Vor 11 Monate
TheCowboyFromCali +1
TheCowboyFromCali

Instead of Twitch Turbo, I've just been using like 3 different adblockers made specifically for twitch. However, the second they released this info and "ad incentive" to creators, all of my adblockers stopped working. They are actively fighting your ability to consume content for free. YouTube might end up being the preferred streaming site if Twitch sets a bad example enough times over.

Vor 10 Monate
Josué Alexander Olaverria Nieves +1
Josué Alexander Olaverria Nieves

I like that you incentivize people to inform themselves before they try forming an opinion on a topic with the first thing they hear. Like telling us to watch Linus' video.

Vor 11 Monate
ThatLucarioGuy +3
ThatLucarioGuy

Man killed it with that stream. I bet this mogul mail guy can beat that washed up streamer Ludwig at pogostuck

Vor 11 Monate
crazy ninja +781
crazy ninja

Thank you Rocket Money for helping Mogul Mail man get money back from the Ludwig Invitational

Vor 11 Monate
Storm Cat
Storm Cat

Rip 150k

Vor 11 Monate
iwindod +1
iwindod

I feel like you could go for the highest subscription as a creator and then easily gamify the experience, with a prize or payout on a lottery basis for the people that get the answer right. Keeps your viewer base and makes it easier to get higher premiums from Twitch. Win-Win

Vor 11 Monate
Shinobi San +3
Shinobi San

999K subscribers 1MIL here he comes. From a small creator to a giant power house we proud of you mogul mail

Vor 11 Monate
illusion +1
illusion

Congrats on 1M subs :D. Soon you will overtake this Ludwig guy

Vor 11 Monate
Chris
Chris

It felt like twitch turbo was the best kept secret for so long. Being able to jump between streams with zero ads is great for multi stream tournaments. Hopefully the popularity doesn’t bump up the price- which it will

Vor 11 Monate
Little Stuart
Little Stuart

Ad blocker goated except when on mobile

Vor 11 Monate
Nad TheAmazing
Nad TheAmazing

Congratulations on 1 million subscribers! Keep up the great work!

Vor 11 Monate
TheTrueGamer +494
TheTrueGamer

The 4K videos being strictly for premium users makes sense from a business stand point since the only real marketing point for premium was the "No ads" thing which could be blocked by ad blockers anyways so making a video resolution special to premium only makes sense since you can't really get around that (at least that I know of) and it'd give someone a real reason to join rather than just downloading a free ad block program

Vor 11 Monate
DBOMB YO +79
DBOMB YO

Although it doesn’t mean much…. YT premium also is good for phone users because it lets you turn your phone off with the video still playing

Vor 11 Monate
Vhalrouge Larfouxe +34
Vhalrouge Larfouxe

@DBOMB YO very true! That is the reason why I even used Premium in the first place.

Vor 11 Monate
Glethil +13
Glethil

@DBOMB YO YouTube revanced od Android does work 😉

Vor 11 Monate
Jerzi +51
Jerzi

4k videos behind paywall it's not big deal anyway. There are tons of users who have barely 1080p screen or internet so bad 4k wouldn't even load. Also if you don't have like 80inch TV and you sit right in front of it you can't tell that big of a difference between 1080p and 4k.

Vor 11 Monate
Dayko +8
Dayko

@DBOMB YO On Android that is still possible for free with Youtube Vanced (I know they shut down but the app still works). And I think there are already others that do the same. For me the only reason to get youtube premium would be for 4k on my TV but honestly I will just watch at 1440p and leave it at that.

Vor 11 Monate
Malicious
Malicious

Thank you MogulMail for giving YouTube the ideas they need to innovate

Vor 11 Monate
Bredlofe +2
Bredlofe

CONGRATS ON ONE MIL🎉🎉🎉 and remember, stay luddy 😎😎

Vor 11 Monate
Rasma Chris
Rasma Chris

I think 3 minutes is acceptable. Streamers should take a break every hour to get a drink or stretch their legs, run an ad during that time so minimize down time during streams and viewers dont feel like they're missing anything. The biggest issue as a viewer is how intrusive they are. I get 4-8 ads back to back 30s each and that translates to being unable to watch live content for 2-4 minutes, when watching the live content is what I'm there for in the first place.

Vor 11 Monate
David P +1
David P

The main reason I don't watch twitch isn't the ads themselves, but the lack of regulation for them. Literal unskippable ads when I hop into a stream or a random ad in the middle of a tense or exciting moment makes me immediately leave. So if you allow the streamers to choose when and how many ads are played, I will watch twitch 100x more than I do. Like, just imagine if you were watching the super bowl or the world cup and they could just play an ad at any random time, there would be literal riots.

Vor 11 Monate
Joe Smith +970
Joe Smith

Damn he’s really out here grinding videos for this channel… At this point I’m convinced he’s the puppet master for all of this drama so that he can consistently upload to hit 1Mil subs ☠️

Vor 11 Monate
terry scott +1
terry scott

Good point

Vor 11 Monate
Moothu +4
Moothu

If you're watching a stream and have the opera browser, you can do a workaround by popping out the smaller muted video of stream, unmuting it, muting the ad and then enlarging the popped out image. It allows you to both see and hear the stream as the ads play in the background

Vor 11 Monate
R - G - C +1
R - G - C

Unfortunately, only like 0.6% of people who browse the internet use Opera, and even less use Twitch.

Vor 10 Monate
Moothu
Moothu

@R - G - C yeah, I guess I'm in a very small minority here. I just wish people would give other browsers a shot besides the default one on their device

Vor 10 Monate
Squatology
Squatology

I think Twitch could fix their issue if they put skippable ads in there. In this case everybody is still shown the ads and if people are interested in it they can finish the ad and if not they should be able to skip it after 5 seconds or so.

Vor 11 Monate
Caesar Speaks +1
Caesar Speaks

I think Lud should’ve covered the Affiliate payout thing, which is that you earn a 50/50 split with twitch if you run more than 3 minutes per hour.

Vor 11 Monate
Unequaled +1
Unequaled

Congrats on your first sponsorship! If only small youtubers like Ludwig could catch up.

Vor 11 Monate
mattyAU | Content Creator
mattyAU | Content Creator

congrats on 1 mil lud this probably one of my favourite channels, looking forward to move videos!

Vor 11 Monate
Colby7114 +779
Colby7114

Personally I like mogal mail better than main channel it keeps me up to date on things I love!

Vor 11 Monate
Ska_fan_1996 +28
Ska_fan_1996

other chanal?

Vor 11 Monate
ruel reyes +104
ruel reyes

what do you mean the main channel? their is only one mogul mail.

Vor 11 Monate
Dagan Douglas +19
Dagan Douglas

Because his content there had changed ever since he left Twitch permanently. More generic, not what he had grown off of.

Vor 11 Monate
Goat
Goat

nah fax

Vor 11 Monate
diane kim +3
diane kim

What other channel

Vor 11 Monate
Chez +7
Chez

this is insane lud!! i remember when you started this channel and it’s came so far. congrats on 1M, mogul mail!

Vor 11 Monate
TallenTV
TallenTV

Ive always thought youtube should have 4 modes. Play, Live, Shorts, and Vods Leave the YT logo on the screen or on app and when tapped+held or hovered opens to a radial menu for the different modes. Play would be traditional youtube (with other modes sprinkled in like now) Live is streams only (bringing viewers more streams per page and allowing website rework to be streamer friendly) Shorts so you can serve more shorts per page and pump view numbers And VODS, so that stream replays dont smother growing livestreams, but are still available in their own little package. The core of that idea just being the radial menu. What i imagine is pretty clean and quick to use without locking you in to tunnel vision of a category.

Vor 11 Monate
Requiem +1
Requiem

congrats on 1 mil, Mogul Mail! You're well on your way to matching the youtuber Ludwig in subscriber count!

Vor 11 Monate
Ryan Mega
Ryan Mega

I think the ad blocks could be something chats can get used to if twitch offered a picture and picture view while also cutting pre roll ads. Nothing is worse than missing an entire round of Valorant for the same Adobe Photoshop ad you’ve seen 6 times. Secondly it would be less intrusive to have an ad run at 60% with the stream at 40% so you can at least see what is happening still. It sucks to get hit with an ad and come back and have NO idea what you missed. Also why can’t twitch provide ad space on a creators page instead of on the stream? Lastly can ads just not be full screen? Cable TV have 10% bars that come up from the bottom that sit for like 10 seconds. I could see a secret lab ad bar animate at the bottom for a period. I think twitch is putting the creative implementation of ads onto the streamers and not helping with their side. They can create other ad types but refuse to. This will cause a lot of streams to take ad breaks - either food breaks, bathroom breaks or just breaks in general to run ads. It will also benefit tournament broadcasts or restreams. Tarik runs 6 min of ads during a valorant tech timeout dude is making 40k extra. Also can’t someone run a second stream late at night or early morning and just run all their ads then when their main viewership isn’t watching?

Vor 11 Monate
Shorkie +6
Shorkie

So proud of mogul mail getting his first ad, he's grown up so fast 😥

Vor 11 Monate
peyton lewallen +48
peyton lewallen

it’s so crazy how many things he’s been able to do and accomplish after making the switch to youtube, best move he could have ever made especially since twitch is swiftly killing their platform. youtube needs to start capitalizing more on twitch’s mistakes and make big upgrades to the live streaming and shorts so more streamers will come to youtube.

Vor 11 Monate
Budget King +2
Budget King

Youtube will go the same route once they have monopoly........... thats capitalism for you.

Vor 11 Monate
Jim H +1
Jim H

Youtube's revenue is down and that is after they have paid all of these streamers big contracts. They are not getting a return on investment and will stop investing in live streamers. Why hasn't Lud convinced QT to move exclusively to YouTube? Because it's all about the contract, otherwise he's be on Twitch.

Vor 11 Monate
MarginalSC +1
MarginalSC

Do they really have to if Twitch is doing what it's doing?

Vor 11 Monate
peyton lewallen +1
peyton lewallen

@MarginalSC yeah, twitch acts like they have no competition, so they don’t really care what they do to the platform because it’s the biggest streaming site on the internet. just like nba2k they have no competition to make they’re games good because they’re the only basketball game that comes out every year so they know people are gonna buy it no matter what, atleast a big majority of people are.

Vor 11 Monate
Holy +1
Holy

The numbers for coconut’s deal were kind of insane. In exchange for streaming about 168 hours and running 8 minutes of ads per hour, he’d make $44k in ad revenue, which seems pretty good. On the contrary, say if I, his viewer, watched every hour of every stream he did, I would be subjected to 28 hours of ads… more than an entire day’s worth of ads. In addition, even for a gaming streamer like coconut brah (plays siege if I remember right), 168 hours a month is an average of around 5 and a half hours a day. In the end, while the creator is essentially milked dry, the viewers themselves are subjected to absurd amounts of ads. Seems like a lose lose for anyone on twitch that doesn’t own the company

Vor 11 Monate
Kyle McLaughlin
Kyle McLaughlin

It will be interesting to see how a higher saturation of twitch turbo users impacts the overall/average payout of ads ran by streamers (because theoretically twitch would be getting less ad revenues because less people are actually seeing ads, and you KNOW that twitch will pass along that change if sponsors demand something)

Vor 11 Monate
I own Kazakhstan +8
I own Kazakhstan

Can't believe Mogul Mail just killed Ludwig.

Vor 11 Monate
PendejoDeMexico
PendejoDeMexico

Ludwig: 3 minutes is only 5% of the hour and when you compare it to cable televisions that does 20 minutes sometimes it’s a whole lot less Also Ludwig but 5 minutes later: Nobody wants to go on twitch and see *opens stream sees an ad* SEE 30 whole seconds, that’s a lot.

Vor 10 Monate
Austin Rader
Austin Rader

Already hit 1mil subscribers by the time I watched this 10 hours later. Congrats, Mogul Mail!! Soon you’ll even surpass that other guy that looks like you.

Vor 11 Monate
Kanzan Koi +95
Kanzan Koi

So glad to see Mogul Mail is growing, that other youtuber Ludwig won’t be able to keep up at this rate

Vor 11 Monate
BigBoomerBastard
BigBoomerBastard

One streamer I watch did the 3mins ad and made it work with his chat. When it was time for ads he stopped gaming or doing any content, took that time to grab a drink or use the washroom, he really made it work and his chat loved it. Twitch took away the 3mins option so he went back to 1 or 2mins until they give him back the 3min option.

Vor 11 Monate
yungmonster xs +1
yungmonster xs

Legend has it that Mogul Mail and Ludwig switch out every other day with every Sunday being Slime's day to possess whichever vessel he so chooses.

Vor 11 Monate
Benzye +1
Benzye

this channel has been a great source of news. Congrats on 1M Mogul Mail! very deserved unlike that Ludwig guy :)

Vor 11 Monate
Sooper +1
Sooper

Who's Ludwig?

Vor 11 Monate
ZerØ
ZerØ

This is mogul mail, not Ludwig. I don't know who "Ludwig" is.

Vor 11 Monate
Mojoani
Mojoani

All the options that were shown for the ad incentives from Twitch ranged anywhere from $19/hr to $262/hr. It sounds like a good opportunity for streamers. I understand ads are not very desirable for audiences but now it at least feels like you're kind of supporting those streamers because they have the ads and are receiving compensation for having it run during their stream. I remember when ads for Youtube videos were a real nuisance and when Youtube began actually sharing those profits with creators, everyone kind of got the idea that watching at least part of the ad or watching all of the ad helped the creator that they enjoyed watching.

Vor 11 Monate
Ryan H +4
Ryan H

Im excited for mogulmails first stream tommorow

Vor 11 Monate
Zach M +152
Zach M

The benefit of shorts channels and vod channels was that I could choose which ones to subscribe to and control what ends up in my subscription feed. Will be very interesting to see if I can get a similar level of control with everything in different tabs but all on one channel

Vor 11 Monate
Recitation To Hear
Recitation To Hear

Link to the clip : This is the best platform : https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU

Vor 11 Monate
*_Mark_* +13
*_Mark_*

Yeah I don’t care about shorts and hate them in my subscriptions

Vor 11 Monate
🌟 Wander the Nomad +8
🌟 Wander the
Nomad

Apparently it's already an option to have Shorts not show up in your viewers subscriptions feed. I've only seen one channel do this. Though to be fair, I'm not sure if it's a universal feature or one of the ones that youtube rolls out little by little to a small portion of youtube channels. If that's not the case, then youtubers are either not enabling that option because they don't know about it/where the setting is located, or they don't care to hide Shorts from their subscribers.

Vor 11 Monate
Dave Junkjet +2
Dave Junkjet

If only YouTube started moderating shorts and comments on shorts that right now look A LOT like a bastard child of Twitter and 4chan. The cancer is real in there.

Vor 11 Monate
AwesomeTree
AwesomeTree

yeah, maybe if they added the same 3 screens for your subscription feed with livestreams, videos, and shorts with their own tab, maybe that could work?

Vor 11 Monate
Emz
Emz

I think one of the issues with twitch ads is that you miss content during the ads, as opposed to TV where the show stops during the ads. Not sure how the fix it but it's a big deal for a lot of us.

Vor 11 Monate
alfonso vergara
alfonso vergara

Happy 1 million subscribers🎉🎉🎉 Is amazing how this small channel has grown from nothing

Vor 11 Monate
Victoria Zero +2
Victoria Zero

Congrats for the gold button, Mogul. Also, good news.

Vor 11 Monate
Adalon
Adalon

I think streamers (most) prefer Twitch for streaming, but for general viewers (not only the regular stream audience), YouTube is better, by far... But it should promote streams separately from videos, like the categories shown in the home page. They should ofc be promoted together, but not mixed, like having multiple categories side-by-side everywhere (live streams, videos, shorts). I keep having to look specifically for a stream, because if I don't watch for a week or two, even having notifs on, i don't see announcements anymore. Another thing that is bad with limited promotion of streams, is that, for example, I watched a mc streamer looking specifically for Minecraft streams to see what is like and if it's worth changing from Twitch. And the category was showing things that I never heard of. However I watch YouTube Minecraft streams, from HermitCraft and empires. Why couldn't someone see these immediately when looking? That was was already more than I do, I NEVER even bothered looking for the general streams tab or category on YouTube. So I don't even know what it is or where. And I watch a LOT.

Vor 11 Monate
ScyDeath +2
ScyDeath

Finally, a good streamer!

Vor 11 Monate
VioletKnights +57
VioletKnights

Man I love mogal mail! It would be so cool to watch him do more casual stuff, like watching TikToks or playing games : )

Vor 11 Monate
beefour +16
beefour

Yeah, I wish he had a second channel where he would do that stuff. He would also make a good streamer, too!

Vor 11 Monate
geraldine yorarou +1
geraldine yorarou

Funni mank

Vor 11 Monate
FaZeOnTheWall +1
FaZeOnTheWall

Man YouTube really turned on the heat to Twitch. Glad to see they're pushing up the creator pay

Vor 11 Monate
HeavensArcher
HeavensArcher

Man. If I was a full time streamer and I see an option of 3 minutes of ads an hour for 2.5k/month for about 60 hrs of streaming a month, I would be ok with that. That was my average monthly income from a 8 to 10 hr a day job.

Vor 11 Monate
ianfleischman82
ianfleischman82

I think it would be interesting if twitch were to run some ads like in the NFL where they basically keep showing the football content in a smaller screen while they run the ad as a big screen. That at least would make it to where if someone like a speed runner is doing their thing they could keep playing and chat could seamlessly keep watching. I don’t really watch twitch much, but that would be a nice feature. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Vor 11 Monate
RyeN +1
RyeN

Congrats on 1 mil Mogul Mail. Very nice milestone

Vor 11 Monate
Max Headroom
Max Headroom

The trajectory of Ludwig's background is either one of increasingly complex self-expression or a slow descent into madness. Either way, I'm here for it.

Vor 11 Monate
Noctile +22
Noctile

Would like to add some info on the ad rev for Twitch: It varies depending on which region your viewers are from. 95% of my viewership is from the Philippines. Twitch offers me in the range of 100-150 usd a month for 7min/hour. A similar-sized streamer (US Based, same follower/viewer count as me is being offered 800-900usd a month for 5min/hour

Vor 11 Monate
Dayko +2
Dayko

One question do they also have to stream the same amount of hours that month? Because it says "run X min of ads X amount of hours".

Vor 11 Monate
Vovegog
Vovegog

I've had Twitch Turbo for years and years at this point. Best thing I ever paid for. Don't HAVE to buy subscriptions to creators unless I want to support them and I still get ad-free viewing everywhere on the site no matter what.

Vor 11 Monate
Byron Barrientos
Byron Barrientos

I've had adblocker for years and years at this point. Best thing I NEVER paid for. Don't HAVE to buy subscriptions to creators unless I want to support them and I still get ad-free viewing everywhere on the site no matter what, FOR FREEEE

Vor 11 Monate
Trogan2000
Trogan2000

Honestly I'd love to see a toned down version for affiliates so they can get a little bit of something

Vor 11 Monate
MidgeWorth
MidgeWorth

The problem with Turbo is that it will cause the CPM of ads to go down because if everyone did it Twitch would have no power in selling ads. The creator will make less from ads because again they (Twitch) buys the ad for less. So it will lead to the same problem. If Twitch doesnt run ads they lose money, but no-one wants that many ads so get Twitch Turbo. Its a bad cycle.

Vor 11 Monate
Nick C
Nick C

I was watching a stream once and the streamer was telling a great story. It was getting really good and then BAM. 1 of 4 ads started. The whole chat started saying "STOP STOP. ADS!!!!" It slowed down the stream and lost momentum after that.

Vor 11 Monate
I C +71
I C

I'm glad to hear that livestreams will be separated! As much as I like sykkuno and lilpichu they never unlisted their livestreams

Vor 11 Monate
Pure Yt Youtube
Pure Yt Youtube

I have to say that the worst thing about twitch ads compared to YouTube's or even tv's ads is that the livestream is still going and sometimes the ads are played by twitch and not the streamer, so maybe I'm losing out on a funny/cool moment or an important part of an explanation. It's not the end of the world but it makes the expirience much more frustrating, especially when I just have my prime sub (because I don't have much money) and even just following 2-3 streamers it really disincentives me to do so. Also I'm getting like 8 to 9 add in a row a lot of times, and it sucks so bad. I'm not using adblockers on either youtube or twitch because I want to contribute even a small amount to creators I really like, but twitch has been making such a good case for an adblocker recently

Vor 11 Monate
Aediion
Aediion

I think the things this works best for us actually gaming events, especially tournaments as after 30 minutes (which can be 1-2 matches for most games) they switch to 3-4 minute add break, and then again at the end of the hour, which most tournaments already do. Or at the end of the hour they run 1 large ad break. I think for individual creators it does become much harder as you don't want to potentially lose viewers for running ads and essentially punish non subs, but you also see how much you could be making from running maybe a minute of ads between games, maybe 2 minutes of ads after 20 minutes, or at the end of an hour making a big announcement and being like "alright chat, I need to run some ads, it's gonna be a bit. Take this time to maybe get a snack, a drink, stretch, and just take a moment. If you have a twitch prime available you can view my stream, or anyone's for that matter, without ads and it doesn't cost you anything if you subscribe with it" I think it also incentivizes creators to also take small breaks for the same reason instead of sitting for 5, 6, 7+ hours at a time only getting up maybe twice to go to the bathroom and maybe grab food they ordered I don't fully agree with the feature, but I also don't inherently disagree with it except that it hurts the viewing experience for most people.

Vor 11 Monate
PlagueNB
PlagueNB

So cool to see Mogul Mail hit 1m, idk who said this but there's a phrase that goes "bigger number better person" and that seems the case for this small channel

Vor 11 Monate
Tiia Maria
Tiia Maria

Mogul Mail been grinding and he totally deserves the 1 million subs. Glag he can finally overcome that Ludwig guy who scammed him back then

Vor 11 Monate
lolzorgfykys
lolzorgfykys

mr mail hit 1 million subs good for him always nice to see small creators make their mark

Vor 11 Monate
Goat's Fluff
Goat's Fluff

What would happen if, say, everyone got Twitch Turbo? Would creators just not get _any_ ad money? That's a scary thought. It'd probably hurt Twitch too, though. No ad money for them either.

Vor 11 Monate
SavageWolf609
SavageWolf609

Grats on 1mil Mogul Mail, you're catching up to your doppelganger Ludwig!

Vor 11 Monate
Slappo
Slappo

As someone who doesn’t really watch streaming, getting paid 44k a month for running 8 ads for 166 hours sounds like heaven

Vor 11 Monate
Cody Brown
Cody Brown

With Twitch turbo, there is also going to be fewer people willing to sub. This then leads streamer to depend more on ads, thus leading them to run more ads.

Vor 11 Monate
Hill Walker +1
Hill Walker

For the dedicated shorts channels, YouTube could merge them with main channels. Like they did for music artists, bringing all their music over the website into one channel

Vor 11 Monate
Mango Talks Tech +36
Mango Talks Tech

Dude I’ve been with this channel since day one, wild to see how much it’s grown!!

Vor 11 Monate
Recitation To Hear
Recitation To Hear

Link to the clip : This is the best platform : https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU

Vor 11 Monate
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interesting to see this now, cos the trackmania community also recently had lots of discourse due to players using software to limit analog steering to optimize runs

Vor 11 Monate
sportsddg
sportsddg

I enjoy your insight and also what you are explaining.

Vor 11 Monate
Grease Monkey
Grease Monkey

CONGRATS ON THE 1 MILL MY MAN, time to start another channel

Vor 11 Monate
Imply
Imply

Congrats on 1m subscribers brother, you'll pass up Ludwig before you know it.

Vor 11 Monate
Milkshake +7
Milkshake

I feel like Twitch is actually going in the right direction with these changes. It could make streaming a more stable job

Vor 11 Monate
Ulises Muracciole +1
Ulises Muracciole

yeah but it's going to be more like tv, 50 mins of content 10 of ads

Vor 11 Monate
Ben Sheridan +24
Ben Sheridan

Small thing, I appreciate that these videos are very raw and clearly filmed shortly before upload. Noticed the Twitter trends aligned with tonight’s football games. Thanks Mr. Mail!

Vor 11 Monate
James Baxter +3
James Baxter

He prides himself on filming every one of these in one take. No cuts at all. It's a very impressive skill.

Vor 11 Monate

Nächster

The Cheating Scandal Got Worse

11:57

The Cheating Scandal Got Worse

Mogul Mail

Aufrufe 1,8 Mio.

This Mistake Cost Me $100,000

22:15

This Mistake Cost Me $100,000

Ludwig

Aufrufe 524 Tsd.

Honest Trailers | One Piece

08:11

Honest Trailers | One Piece

Screen Junkies

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Power outlets are topsy turvy - but does it matter?

18:40

Power outlets are topsy turvy - but does it matter?

Technology Connections

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Racist Streamer Finally Arrested

10:17

Racist Streamer Finally Arrested

Mogul Mail

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Elon Musk's Worst Idea

10:10

Elon Musk's Worst Idea

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Aufrufe 944 Tsd.

Huge Gaming Drama

21:49

Huge Gaming Drama

Mogul Mail

Aufrufe 1,7 Mio.

Big Update to Huge Drama

29:20

Big Update to Huge Drama

Mogul Mail

Aufrufe 1,1 Mio.

This VTuber Got Cancelled for Talking to a Boy

14:27

Streamer Accidentally Exposes a Scam Live

15:51

The Most Dangerous Man in America

14:28

The Most Dangerous Man in America

Mogul Mail

Aufrufe 1,4 Mio.

Huge Cheating Scandal

13:23

Huge Cheating Scandal

Mogul Mail

Aufrufe 1,9 Mio.

Honest Trailers | One Piece

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Screen Junkies

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