Reading the comments section--honestly proud that so many people are not cool with sweeping unethical behavior under the rug. Way to go, internet :)

@David Cattin right! I thought I was in the twilight zone , people are too vested in this ONE YouTube channel, Jesus.

@YesReneau Are you religious? What ethical code are you holding the cheater to? Do you believe marriage is validated by a fickle promise and a government form?

@Michael Eldridge Exactly! People cheat all the time. Try Guys turned it into an international incident. It's not like they're a Christian channel or anything.

@Z Malek Thank you! I couldn't put it into words as well as you did, but fully agree. Yeah, people cheat & it's hard on the parties INVOLVED. Try Guys managed to turn this everyday occurance into an international incident. If it violates your company rules, handle it with HR and move on! Sheesh!!!

akexandrea should be in jail for what her jezabel ass did!

Everyone talking about how Ned has ties with the writers on SNL need to know that Alex also has a bestie working on SNL so this was 100% a purposeful hit piece

I mean they've done this with other people they imitate you know. Like celebrities. But when they do it with try guys it feels wrong. Probably because of the situation and the whole skit intself. Like the dudes were figuring it out. And their brand just got such a hit. Maybe they came off as shallow or whatever. It can happen.

They didnt need all that about Eugene.. it just sounded like it came out the mouth of some prejudiced 1950s rhetoric.. I'm put off snl now ..

"He was a try guy and she was a food baby" "He was the boss and owner of the company and she was his employee. "

Haha

@Shanchan I always thought they were friends that happened to work together. But this shows they are not.

The amount of people on here who don't understand how a business is run is alarming. Anything that taints a business has to go, fair or not. That's the way it is. It has nothing to do with 'consensual'. Hes not being charged with assault. Hes fired for having an affair with a subordinate which is very, very stupid. And he did it publicly which basically ended his own career, let alone marriage. Your business is your brand. Anything that jeopardizes that needs to go or you won't have a business. That's why relationships and business don't and shouldn't ever mix. I bet some of you actually think your friends with your boss! 😄

@Amy rose multi million dollar business is small when you are talking about corporate entities with rigorous hr departments. I think you over estimate their oversight sophistication. Someone probably said to them that it could be a legal issue and that is why they did anything. They probably had no clue what to do. Funny how this went on for months of public dates and none of the try guys new about it.

@Michael Eldridge he literally was fired for the work place relationship, are you dense? He was 1/4 owner of the company, as well as the fucking HR person. So if he threatened to fire Alex unless she slept with him she would have NO ONE to report it to. And I'm not saying that's what happened! But those are the reasons. They also are a multi million dollar business so yeah a pretty big one bud. And just because shit doesn't get done at other companies it's fine? Like wtf are you talking about.

Been a fan of SNL for a long time, and my wife and I are huge fans of Bowen Yang. So it saddens me to say not only is this sketch not funny, it's an embarrassment. Is SNL trying to say that when a company owner has secret affair with an employee, while publicly portraying himself as a great husband, it's just no big deal?? The only thing to laugh about in this sketch is the sheer stupidity of making it.

The way the actors do the impersonations is kind of toxic too. A big part of the humor of this skit is, "haha, look at the fairy boys. They're showing emotion". Yang's impersonation of Eugene really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's just a blanket stereotype of an overemotional effeminate gay man, which is just kinda disgusting to see in 2022.

Considering the amount of sexual misconduct accusations against the higher ups at snl? Gonna say, yes that's exactly what they think.

@rotting and here come the insults You sound just like the snl cast Can't have a grown adult conversation on the internet ever

@NoName god how nice it would be to be as stupid as you are

@ashley marks it could be cancelled if enough people actually care to speak about it Or start a petition Or they can make them change their jokes at least and not be political or do any more personal jokes its been happening with a lot of comedians left and right They can't make racial, jokes about gender, political or personal jokes anymore without possibly being sued

Team try guys. I encourage anyone who hasn’t heard of the “Try Guys” to go watch their videos and see how wonderful they are. God forbid a group of men take it upon themselves to uphold morals and standards.

Oh so it’s the passing of judgement on others that makes you moral, got it.

Yeah and pay close attention to how much Ned gushes over his wife on every episode (while secretly screwing his employee)

Shoutout to whoever wrote this sketch for misunderstanding the entire situation

Lol...funniest sketch in a minute.

@Cláudia Rodrigues I'll have to get that. I'm glad that the ratio of dislikes to likes is almost 50/50

@Simplecaveman it's a chrome extension

@Cláudia Rodrigues How do you figure out the dislikes?

This comment section proves Gen Z is doomed. Period.

I love how they try to write it off as “a consensual kiss between coworkers”, when Ned’s wife did NOT CONSENT TO BE CHEATED ON.

@K. Kelly If you didn't care you wouldn't waste your time posting

@Sgt FuckOff It's potentially Iliegal due to the fact he was not only in charge of HR but also was her boss. but to explain the uproar. there's a few theories. one, 1It's because Ned constantly brought her up, he has 2 kids with her, so when you find out that Ned "my wife" Fulmer cheated on his wife. yeah that's shocking. 2 they know Eugene's parents went through divorce and they are mad for Eugene. 3 brand betrayal, it goes against what the try guys stand for. 4 Feel bad for Ariel. and 5 The internet loves and gets invested in drama.

@Sgt FuckOff to the brainwashed? What if Alex turned around and accused Ned of rapping her? Then what homie comes out and says it's consensual sex between them so she's lying? He was her boss so their for the power play of him being a superior is where the problem lies

@Ben Dover it is when it's between an employer and an employee.

It's not about his wife. Ned put the company in potential legal trouble with having a relationship with a subordinate.

I’ve never seen such solidarity in a YouTube comment section. There is hope for humanity yet!

@I like Shrimp What?!

Read about it please or at least Watch matpat's Video on it. Also DO BETTER

@Rhoda Baruchcan u blame us? gen x stuck a phone in our face to raise us since we were kids. and you know who a lot of us watched? these guys. and then we had covid. a lot of us spent our defining years trapped in a room. but plz continue to shade us

@FullSendFeyo 🤡🤡

😂 don’t take yourselves too serious 🤡

been a fan of snl for years, y'all dropped the ball on this one. wtf.

Racist, just because it's criticizing white men with token Asian They deserve to be made fun of like trump, racist

@Lilly snl is funniest from 75 to 2005. Especially the 90s. But it's still better than mad TV

@Lilly agreed

Your first mistake was being a fan of SNL for years.

SNL should be really glad the like to dislike ratio isn’t public information

@Saiko Neko19 It's called return the deslike buttun

@Saiko Neko19 yeah

@142doddy wait there is an extension that will show you? Really?

35k likes - 182k dislikes chrome extention

Imagine calling a year-long affair with an engaged subordinate “a consensual kiss at a Harry styles concert.” Tell me this was written by Ned’s friend at SNL without telling me this was written by Ned’s friend at SNL.

@Kate Ashby I never heard about those guys before, not to mention all that drama and it still was funny for me even more when i knew nothing, cause of course i made some research after all those comments.

@Kate Ashby ppl hate mayweather and they pay every ppv in hopes he loses lol he would get ways more views independently than ever as a try guy. He was the main guy lol

@Kate Ashby that’s exactly what that duo could’ve did lol

@Keith Prater lmfao yeah just walk away from your multi-million dollar business and start a new one even though everyone hates your face 😂 ok 👍🏼

@Dom wrong. It’s based on pop culture so if it’s not at all accurate then it’s not funny. That’s how pop culture jokes work 🥴

Yes how dare a company uphold a moral standard and respect the families hurt by this situation. How dare they not cover this up like it is no big deal. It is admirable that they actually hold one of their dear friends accountable, and that they did so without bashing him and without siding with him either. They have handled this with grace, and of course SNL is not able to just respect that in a space and community they normally wouldn’t care about.

@Hannah you do understand this happens every day right? And in most cases you would get a warming. I mean my girlfriend works high up in HR so I hear about this shit all the time. And if I owned a company I wouldn't put myself in that situation. Yeah they had every right to let him go I'm just saying the whole thing is blown way out of proportion and the reactions seem fake AF but that's just my opinion and we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. Have a good day and Merry Christmas

@william miller If that's how you really feel then let us all just hope that you are never in charge of a company.

@Hannah not just men, my girlfriend and mother of my child had the same thoughts. That's a warning a best and if they keep seeing each other then termination and I'm not saying cheating on your wife is okay at all, I'm saying it's nobody's business but the husband and wife. I mean to act like this is a big deal is actually crazy.

@william miller Yeah you're missing that fact that he was her boss, not just a coworker. That's such a legal can of worms with the fact that he was her boss, he could have and likely did cost the Try Guys significant amounts of money. It's really interesting how many men in the comments feel the need to try to defend the fact that he cheated on his lovely wife and betrayed all of his closest friends, putting their life's work at risk.

Nah it's just y'all making a big deal about something that's none of your business and that is so small. A man cheated on his wife with a coworker. Like am I missing something

This has to be one of the most unbelievably embarrassing skits snl has ever made. Imagine missing the point of the situation this much 💀

No it's not. No they didn't

Sending Eugene, Keith, and Zack so much love ❤️ my respect and love for them as a fan has grown even more after how professionally they handled everything and in the right way. SNL, you wish you had their level of professionalism and integrity.

It's funny how bad SNL actually is. They're trying even harder then the tri guys and still aren't funny 😂 so freaking bad! 🤦

Lol workplace harassment funny Try guys are like trump now, being made fun of on snl Lololol why you supporting people who are like trump like the try guys racist

I think the humor SNL was going for here was making it as obvious as possible that one of Ned’s frat boy besties wrote this whole thing

this makes more sense when you realize that Ned has a friend that is an SNL writer

It's not a skit on the tryguys it's on about entertainment news it's simple to understand, that there's a major war in Europe which USA will probably end up in but people care more about trivial crap about YouTubers than real news.

It makes sense because they are making fun of people who think this is a big deal at all. Dude keep it with a co-worker and his " friends" dropped him. I mean am I missing something? If I am correct me

@Kate Ashby By the looks of your comments, you're in a mood.

@Kate Ashby A tv persona was in fact just a persona? I'm shocked. And that totally warrants the pedophilia comparison, for sure.

@Sira Castori wrong, not when you make yourself a public figure AND your entire persona for your channel is based on being the beloved “wife guy”. At that rate you’re playing your fan base for chumps. And people aren’t gunna like it. Besides, those dummies were photographed all over the damn country for 6 months (or longer) cheating together. If they wanted it to stay private then maybe they shouldn’t have cheated out in the open. You don’t get to have it both ways. I respect this wife’s privacy but he can suck it.

Shoutout to the writer whose friends with Ned and manipulated the entire situation.

@Weird Wombatthat’s not the point. The point is the treatment those victims have gotten after coming out… which has allegedly been very poor.

@Sewwfffyhjijuiyou are telling me a crew that has had hundreds and hundreds of people on it has had accounts of sexual harassment... how shocking.

The SNL crew has also been accused multiple times of sexual harassment

Youtube, bring back the dislike counter. I need to see it for this video

Someone said it was like 170K and counting or something

Hm, now I know exactly what Pat Bateman meant when he said “that whole Yale thing”

Amazing how you manage to not blame the only person worth blaming. Sexual misconduct at work isn't a joke and they were certainly not overreacting. Honestly with snl's history of covering up or ignoring scandals like this (horatio sanz's case for example), this really fits their theme.

The guys deserve better than to be roasted for their emotions

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They stereotype Eugene so awfully. Like they've obviously never ever seen him before. It's completely serotypical honestly

I mean they are clearly parodying the video they posted

@Mark Jayson That doesn't really have anything to do with the blatant homophobic stereotyping they're using here.

It’s SNL that’s the whole point when they parody situations, don’t watch if you’re gonna be a sensitive ass baby

He sock tho.. its just a rebrand of buzzfeed

Wow, I trust SNL a lot less for this one, they really outed themselves as a place that doesn’t resepect the need for a healthy workplace

How dare the co-founders of a company take action against their business partner who threatened their livelihood by having an affair with an employee of their company instead of just being bros about the situation 🙄 say whatever you want about people being too invested in internet personalities, but you could have made a joke about parasocial relationships without also having the shittiest take on the actual events that happened.

“I’m sorry…why is that a big deal.?” He was married :D that’s why. They completely boiled the situation down to “he didn’t tell his friends he kissed a girl.” This was done poorly. 👎

It wasn't their job to make his marriage their life and responsibility to tell everyone about 99% of anyone who even knew the try guys didnt know about this until it came out and hit number 1 viewed charts on youtube when they were doing that.

This was really a low blow by SNL, seriously? The try guys actually did a fantastic job handling it all and holding people accountable. Good on them.

@Robert Quinones no one was harassed, and quid pro quo is not illegal. it CAN be illegal yes... there is a difference

@Cousin Ivory CIV quid pro quo sexual harassment is illegal. it's one of two types of sexual harassment clearly outlined in title VII of the Civil Rights Act

@Cousin Ivory CIV The problem was Ned's carelessness in the first time. The second the issue became online gossip they were forced to make a statement to salvage their business from their friend's stupidity. The video they made is professional, lacks an over exaggerated emotional response and calls for people outside the incident to respect the family's wishes of privacy. I hope you are never so shitty as a person that your friends have to question whether or not they should support you or not.

@Cousin Ivory CIV Yes, they can be sued for defamation. If they did this wrong and claimed to the public that Ned did something that ruins his reputation to the point where he is no longer making money and also could potentially keep from making money in the future and also ruin his marriage is defamation. You come off as so lost. I don't think you understand what is actually happening here at all. Also, you showed me that you have no idea what Quid Pro Quo is.

@Cousin Ivory CIV my god you’re obviously trolling at this point..you know they covered the defamation thing in their video and podcast…y’know…the ones you claimed to watch…

I think Ned’s friend needs to be fired because he had a “consensual kiss goodbye with his career.” ❤️

this is like when an old person trys to be hip and cool with a joke but just makes everyone cringe instead

Wow! Today I learned that it’s okay for someone to cheat on their wife, completely disregarding their family, and with their employee at that! Really makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes of this shitshow that hasn’t been funny in years- if ever

i feel bad for the romantic partners of everyone involved in this sketch. thanks SNL i had too many brain cells before watching this, but you sure fixed that problem for me

How can you miss this hard when every social media avenue has given so much material to work with

Here is the full video : that explains https://youtu.be/jhTTxdBKSyI

Link to the clip : Thank me later 💀 https://youtu.be/vn8WdvkmTGs

https://youtu.be/-3DyBTUfPsc Finally it’s here

Ned has a friend that writes for SNL

I watched this sketch four times trying to find the joke only to realise that I had always known, it just wasn’t funny

Can the Try Guys sue SNL for this? It's clear libel and misrepresentation, at best.

Yeah, he's a Try Guy and she's a Food Baby. Meaning that he's her boss and there was a serious ethical issue, possibly even a consent issue. PLUS, he was the head of HR, so he's supposed to be making sure this stuff doesn't happen. Also, he's married and she was engaged, and they were having an ongoing relationship. Their significant others were publicly humiliated, especially Ned's wife, who was (or is) part of the Try Guys staff; she's nearly as well known to the public as Ned. Publicly, the Try Guys have always stood for integrity and against toxic masculinity. Ned's actions were disgustingly hypocritical. A large part of his brand of humor is the "wife guy" stuff, and he literally made money off of that - which would be fine if he was really the person he said he was, but clearly he's not.

Great job normalising cheating👍🏽 Your partners must be proud

@Alexis Mellow not in the grand scheme of things. Its definitely not newsworthy! 🙄

@Leslie Yancey it is a big deal though

@Leslie Yancey Sounds like something a cheater would say

Nobody’s normalizing cheating, it’s just not the big freaking deal you all are making it out to be!

Any way we can get YouTube to bring back the dislike bar for just this video?

Yeah...so I can dislike this comment. 😆 🤣

It's 188k

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there's chrome extensions that let you see them. right now its at 157k dislikes

@cam i 9.6 million dislikes

If anything, this shows that SNLs workplace is in desperate need of new HR.

He was her BOSS and was MARRIED

Major Boomer energy from this sketch.

This is actually terrible. I’m usually a fan of SNL, but they misread this situation so incredibly wrong. He was her boss, it was a year long affair, and he literally turned his wife and family into his entire brand just to cheat on her. They just glossed over all of that.

Calling a year-long affair with a subordinate which results in the betrayal your wife and children *"a consensual kiss"* is like calling a hit-and-run "driving the speed limit"

@Yuh Breaking contract does not mean you broke the law. Let me state it clearer. Point: Workplace relationships are legal. If that doesn’t make sense to you, you may need to do a second read.

@Vulpesune the whole point is that the relationship when against the contract moron so your whole “point “ made no sense

@J B hmm looks like you are grasping at straws trying to find justification for your comment there... smh... you total ignored my other comments. Smh... or are you saying Alex was under total duress when they were having an affair? I mean just look at the outcome... Ned was removed from the company... if Ned had such power over Alex the subordinate as you call her why is the company so afraid of her?

@Yuh Sure. My entire argument is it is solely not illegal, you can have relationships in the workplace, up and down or side to side. Contracts may specify otherwise, and that can get you fired on violation. End of point.

@Vulpesune and? It still violates their contract, who gives a shit about the law , when you breach a contract there is a law saying that it should be handled accordingly to the terms, so the fact that you are trying to sit here and say that he can get away with it because it’s not a us crime , as if the contract he signed doesn’t apply.if it wasn’t a big deal he wouldn’t be getting sued for breach of contract

How does no one on snl didn't go "wait the minute..." while reading this script?!?!

It was a year long affair. Neds entire brand was loving his wife, and he couldn’t even do that. SNL would have been better off never letting this skit go to the table. God forbid a company takes action against sexual misconduct in a workplace.

I love how they try “pun not intended” to make fun of YouTube and how important it is. Meanwhile the only reason SNL is still around is because of the internet.

yeah, no…you know it’s bad when EVERYBODY’s slamming snl for being so freaking stupid…

Lmao you can tell Ned got his friend to do this one. Imagine making fun of the try guys and NOT Ned in this situation. The gross abuse of power and treating it like it’s nothing is disgusting.

@Lance Cyber I’m gonna make an assumption that you bought into the (false) rhetoric by predominantly conservative media saying that members and supporters of the LGBTQ+ community are groomers. Otherwise I’m fully lost about where this is coming from.

@Whiskey Gordon yes. Yes it was. You really thought you had something there didn’t you. It’s still abuse of power. Whether it be Ned Fulmer or Michelle Obama.

It’s not abuse. It was consensual. Michelle Obama dated Barack when he was an intern at her law firm. Was that an abuse of power??

@school appropriate username so you're saying you like spreading gossip about people's relationships to destroy their families? That's cool. Oh and you support child abuse? Do you also have a channel aimed towards kids with links to "adult toys" in your about section, like all of the people supporting the left over try guys? Weird that the only people supporting these scum bags are either children or child predators. Hmmm... Almost as if they're gr00mers, like every other youtuber.

@Lance Cyber just making things up huh? Don’t worry I also like supporting people who cheat and put company’s in danger of legal actions I also enjoy spreading false information and being all around unloved

Did not expected this from snl, glad to see people are not falling for it and calling out these hypocrites.

There was one wrong take and they took it

Bold of them not to have taken this down yet.

‘Simple kiss’ he was having realations for a whole year while being her boss, i mean not like SNL ever had *any* bad news come out about their woman friendly work environment-

This just reflects how SNL would handle a situation like this if it were to ever happen to them.

"if"?

Ever to happen? Buddy... it HAS Happened to them

it speaks volumes

What do you mean, if?

@Alyssa Hopson ok. Its likely to say theyre still friends. Amything couldve happened between then and now. But still, the second half of your question still can be said back to you.

I'm honestly really disappointed in SNL for this one. Completely misunderstood the situation, made *cheating* seem like not a big deal, just completely shitting on the situation that's already hard enough for the people involved. and it's not even funny, I enjoy SNL but this one just managed to be the worst thing they've released.

I have never ever been so disappointed in SNL before - the standard have really dropped Wonder how close Ned and the writer is, clearly a deep friendship there that goes beyond logic

For once we have a company that clearly has expressed their values, and that they don't like the kind of people who cheats on their significant other (which specifically bastardizes their proclaimed image), and SNL makes a skit about how that's dumb. SNL. This tells us your stance in supporting two-faced people so long as they give you money. The Try Guys have made it clear that they value being genuine over money. You don't. (As if SNL is gonna pay attention to this comment. Lol.)

I used to love snl Past tense

i don't even watch the try guys, but i found their response to this situation so professional and admirable. this is the first time i've seen any company take the accountability that they did. they were deeply hurt because their long-time friend and co-worker was involved with their subordinate. not only did someone they trusted abuse their power, but this also put their entire company and brand at risk. the fact that SNL is downplaying all of this to be some kind of silly internet drama instead of workplace sexual misconduct is very telling.

Y’all are so delusional and weird

@dietrevich Nothing dramatic about addressing workplace sexual misconduct.

@ZombieSushi and her and Ned’s actions can cause the courts to shut down the company. It’s a federal crime for a boss to have a relationship with an employee

@clutched010 maybe try making sense. It wasn’t weirdos on the internet- many mainstream news outlets started running this story. Millions of people have watched them for almost a decade and wanted to know what was going on.

@Eugene Brukhman Maybe you shouldn't discuss things without knowing wtf you're talking about.... Thats the point and you said it yourself. You have these weirdos on the internet demanding answers... When they are not owed shit. And thats who is to blame for the skit in the first place..... That's why its hilarious bc social media forced them to do this.

When even MatPat thinks you have a bad take, then you know you’ve done something wrong. That’s how you know you’ve screwed up, SNL. You made Mathew Patrick RIGHT about something.

This is so disgusting snl completely misunderstood the situation. Nice to see that if this were to ever happen to snl, they would handle it in this childish manner.

No way they missed the mark THIS MUCH 😭

As someone who had watched them for years, this was hilarious... UP UNTIL 'Zach' making making that weird comment about Ned not spilling the tea on cheating... like wtf? Who even wrote this?!

I'm VERY happy that this comment section passed the smell check. The Guys did everything correctly. We love you guys!! Especially YOU, Keith!! Keith is Daddy's favorite.

Eww it's called the vibe check you weirdo 🤨

@Greywolf757 because of the power imbalance (1) no (2) Ned had more of a responsibility to stop the situation from happening (3) she could have felt pressured into or into continuing the relationship imo it was likely consensual based off what I've seen, but until Alex herself makes a statement saying as much, its important to note that only Ned is the one who has said it was consensual. Alex has not. until she confirms or denies (which likely won't be anytime soon), I would hold off from final judgment

@Greywolf757 potentially yes but no one knows for sure and I think what most are seeing is that so many people are saying "she could be a victim" and others are like "but she likely wasn't" and with Alex not speaking (which is her right to stay quiet, I personally would want to hide in a bunker for a year if I messed up and was caught on such a big scale) both sides are just trying to convince the other that they're right. It also is just infuriating that SNL is downplaying the situation SO badly from "after weeks of investigation it was revealed this was ongoing for almost a year and multiple people in the office knew about it (ie were in an environment of sexual harassment, keeping in mind that NOT sleeping with the boss and when someone is and might be getting perks from it is considered sexual harassment and can be an offense/winnable lawsuit)" to "a consensual kiss"... just so so so angering that a company is doing the upright thing and SNL is mocking and downplaying it so hard.

I don't blame the Try Guys for how they responded, but I wish people would stop acting like Alex is a victim. The relationship between Alex and Ned was likely consensual. She's likely just as responsible for what happened as he is.

@Alex D have you actually seen them go to media outlet after media outlet to talk about this? They haven't. They issued a brief text statement on their page and then when things REALLY blew up they did a 3 minute video on their YouTube channel and then addressed it fully on their podcast in long form version but they aren't the ones blowing this up- media and social media are. They removed ned while they were doing the investigation because it's literally just them putting him on suspension while conducting the investigation. I don't get how you think the try guys are the ones being dramatic... they were being human. If you had the company you worked so hard on for 8 years be put in jeopardy because one of your partners decided to do an action that left the company vulnerable to a lawsuit you'd be really angry too. Especially since they action hurt their friend and boys who are nephews to them, Ariel and the boys. So yeah, I do like living in a world where actions aren't swept under the rug and YouTuber don't go everywhere to talk about big changes on their channel but do feel free to be honest and transparent on their own channel.

The only acceptable jokes here are where Egobunma doesn't know who they're talking about but Brendan is so serious about it. The rest is garbage. I respect that the guys took it seriously and handled it well when they discovered that an owner of the company was having a sexual relationship with a young lower-level employee. The only stupid part was how it was such a crazy huge scandal. Guess SNL thinks #metoo is no longer popular enough to support if they're shitting on companies who actually properly handle sexual misconduct in the workplace.

not only can you tell the writer clearly had some "influence" but you can tell this show is targeted towards older millennials and up. snl just loves making fun of internet drama bc their older audience will laugh (emphasis on partially, clearly SOMEONE knew one of the writers 🙃)

Sending my love to Ariel and Wesley. You don’t deserve this 😞❤

SNL completely misunderstood why they had to remove Ned from the company. There are a lot of legal problems that they had to face throughout the whole ordeal. For one, Ned was a co-head of the company dating an employee which can cause a lot of legal issues in the future if they didn't react quickly and accordingly. So many problems can arise from a relationship between a boss and an employee and it is very easy for things to get out of hand when things take a bad turn in those relationships. Keeping Ned in the company with everything going on between him and Alex puts the entire company at risk, not just him. If say there is a really bad break up between Ned and Alex and Ned is still a boss at Second Try LLC when it happens, not only can it affect the flow at work for everyone as a boss and producer are having personally issues brought into the workplace, but there is always the possibility of these problems leading to legal actions being taken against the company for allowing the boss and employee relationship to continue. This is why most companies have a policy that states that upper management is in no way allowed to have a romantic relationship with someone who works beneath them as an employee of the company. A lot of people think this is unfair to basically say "You can't date this person even if you really like each other because you work together" but it is in the best interests of every person involved including the company itself because there's just no telling how these relationships will play out and how it will affect the company or whether or not it will end with any sort of legal action taken against the boss individual and/or the company itself.

This is disgusting behavior!!! We’ve been trying so hard to get men to hold other men accountable for cheating and once they do they immediately get made fun of, the way the try guys handled this was incredibly well and my heart aches for Ariel and the boys, and Will.

@Summer N ok

@SalvSays How in the world is it terrible to fire an employee who potentially ruined your company's image? A company's image determines their success. Ned endangered the company for some action on the side. It's really as simple as that. He completely deserved to be let go. His actions showed how much he valued the company and its reputation (which was clearly not a lot).

@Rowan Caldwell I imagine they will be fine but unless they're going to start paying Ariel what Ned was making, I can't see how this doesn't also punish her. I know in other videos the power dynamic in the affair is brought up but The Try Guys introduced a similar power dynamic when they started incorporating their partners into the business. Like you said, Arial works for the try guys. Ned was already in a relationship with an employee. It just seems like this response is more about protecting the Try Guys' brand from potential fan backlash than actually doing right by the people caught up in what would normally be a very personal and very private betrayal.

@Summer N but that’s speculation. If they can prove quid pro quo or he broke something he agreed to, something work related like that. Then yes. But none of what has been said seems to be that. They fired him to keep an image. That’s terrible

@SalvSays It's actually not nonsense. He likely violated a company policy. Wouldn't you say that in general if someone violates a company policy, that's grounds to be fired?

you know they edited in every laugh

Didn't Ned's friend write this sketch? I guess that's why an affair and workplace sexual misconduct for over a year, was treated as "a consensual kiss" that was being overblown all because the Try Guys were just angry they weren't in on "the joke." SNL tends to do well nailing it with their parodies, but this time hit below the belt. It doesn't matter The Try Guys tried to take it lightly themselves, it still wasn't okay to ignore the moral implications of what happened to the franchise, and what could have been what potentially ruined it. They are all three struggling with what to do now. Ned's choices destroyed their company, essentially.

HE HAS A WIFE AND CHILDREN

There was a time where Bill Murray "apologized" on an SNL skit for not being funny. I think it would've been of great comfort to him in those rough times to have someone from the future bring him this footage.

Glad to see that this is where SNL stands on exploitative power dynamics. Real cool.

@emilia von gutez no, it doesn't "become" sexual harassment just because she claims it is. It is sexual harassment if it actually IS sexual harassment, regardless of what she claims. Whether or not she claims it is is entirely irrelevant, ethically speaking. It is relevant epistemically, (we may somewhat justifiably BELIEVE it's more likely to be sexual harassment if she claims it is) but not at all ethically.

@sub-harmonick Are you kidding? What people “could claim” is very much ethically relevant as that is the whole reason why it’s such an issue. It doesn’t matter that it appears consensual. If she says she felt like she couldn’t turn him down after some point in the relationship because of fear of retaliation, it immediately becomes sexual harassment. There’s many ways Alex could’ve twisted it due to the power imbalance and a single claim could give her a right to sue. It wouldn’t only open them to huge legal issues but damage to their brand and their company as a whole.

@emilia von gutez What people 'could claim' isn't ethically relevant, what's ethically relevant is what the reality of the situation is. (which we don't know). Also I think the situation would be pretty contextual and dependent on the specific jobs in question, and structure of the company. But in this particular case I don't fault the company for firing him at all. There are other factors than just the employee/management relationship.

@sub-harmonick Yes, it is inherently wrong literally just because of the possibility. That’s why it’s not permitted or at least highly frowned upon in almost every workplace. Even if everything was consensual there is *always* the possibility that Alex as his subordinate, could claim she felt coerced or suggested into the relationship, and if she ever wanted to end it she could claim she felt she couldn’t because of his position as her boss, and she didn’t want to be in bad favor with the person literally signing her checks. Also people throughout the company could claim unfairness if Alex got any type of promotion/raise or higher position because it could be assumed it was because of what she was doing with Ned. Their relationship itself, consensual or otherwise opened up a possibility of legal issues for not just Ned but the company and their brand as a whole. It wasn’t just his livelihood he put on the line but that of his friends who also cofounded the company. That might sound a bit dramatic but think of what would happen even if he did cheat with someone outside the company. Ned would quickly be branded a deceitful cheater and by standing by him the rest of the Try guys and their channel as a whole would suffer in the face of the internet (rightfully so imo). The fact that it was with an employee only made it that much worse because of the HR issues. The decision to remove him was very much also a business one as it probably was a personal one.

@Thatotherchannel It's obviously not ideal for someone higher up to date an employee due to the potential for bad social situations but idk if that makes it inherently wrong

Yall love ned so much just put him on the show im sure that would get great ratings 🫠

Amazing, I didn’t laugh once

You forgot the part where Ned cheated on his wife and young children with his employee, NOT his coworker, his EMPLOYEE, who btw was engaged and in a 10 year relationship…

Fun fact- this sketch was written by Ned's friends from college!

Keith, Zach and Eugene do not deserve any hate for their response to the situation. They handled it so, so professionally and responsibly and the last thing they deserve is backlash from freaking SNL

lmfao it’s funny thoooo

This comment makes this skit unironically more hysterical 😆

🤣🤣 bud this is massive exposure for them. You do not need to be outraged at comedy because life is outrageous 🤣

SNL just jealous lol let's be real

@Coriander do you have a source that he wrote it and that theyre friends? Or is that just a rumor/gossip?

I'm extremely protective over comedy, and believe you should have the right to make comedy out of anything. And yet, this makes me soooo mad. So...basically cheating is so normalized that the Try Guys are bad here? This entire skit is downplaying the grief of breaking the trust of someone you thought actually loved and respected you, and the guys themselves losing someone they've been extremely close friends with for a freaking decade.

Glad to know SNL is okay with not only stealing people’s jokes but also downplaying an affair between a superior and their employee. Good on SNL for maintaining such values.

Never thought I would see a piece of media interpret such a serious matter in such an incorrect way, but you know here we are. The internet never ceases to disappoint. SNL should be ashamed of themselves.

Ned was LITERALLY the best person to make fun of in this situation. It wasn’t just because he cheated on his wife with an employee, but this man made his ENTIRE personality and life about his wife for a decade! That’s why people are talking.

Yikes. I just hope Ariel, the kids, and the Try Guys team are okay. Sending my love to them

@Michael W Loss can come in more ways than just death.

I'm glad people care about Ariel, but I wish they would care about the fiance of Alex, the woman who cheated with Ned. Alex's fiance got cheated on as well, but doesn't get the same amount of attention.

@Ghosts on Trains did he die?

@Fortnite Legion they lost someone they consider a friend

​@RandomHer03 No their not. Their friend that they've known for years cheated on his wife, also Eugene's long time friend too (before she married Ned), he screwed up the company financially too, he owns a portion of the company and with them firing him. They have to pay him a lot of money since he was one of the owners, they also have to pay Alex, also Ned screwed up his family financially too as their source of revenue was from the channel. To say that their fine is dumb.

shout out to neds friend who wrote this to downplay what he did. way to go

After reading and seeing other talk about how bad this was and how far they missed the mark I had to give the benefit of the doubt to form my own opinion. I am very sad to say this was worse than I was expecting. This borders on being shameful and they should be ashamed of themselves. I love watching well done parodies they can be hilarious but making villains of three business owners who choose to speak open and honest regarding a situation is in no way humorous. There are reasons quid pro quo relationships are prohibited; this was literally the employees boss and head of Human Resources having an affair with someone they directly oversee. There is a massive power imbalance and every reason to believe the likelihood of retaliation against the employee by her boss is extremely high should the relationship end poorly. This also trivializes that as a small business Ned put the company in a position of being vulnerable to multiple civil lawsuits for sexual harassment, hostile workplace, etc which likely would have bankrupted and ended the company they built. Shame of you SNL, while given the shows own history of sexual harassment and hostile treatment I genuinely believe the writers found this an amusing anecdote victim blaming is not cute. Ideas for future sketches, why not revamp this as upset principal who had to terminate a teacher for violating “bro code” in his affair with a student. Hilarity ensues I’m sure

I came straight here after watching the actual clip the Try Guys posted This sketch was insensitive, wildly inaccurate, minimized the pain of everyone involved in the scandal, and somehow also managed to demonize the remaining Try Guys for having perfectly valid feelings. They totally did Eugene dirty on this.

Even though Ned is *completely* in the wrong with this whole situation, I still feel like it would have been possible to make a legitimately funny sketch about it. I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of hours of content about Eugene, Zach, and Keith where they openly show plenty of imperfections and legitimate character flaws, admit to real things they struggle with, etc. This attempt to make fun of them was so disappointing in its mediocrity that I feel it highlights how little Ned must have been contributing to the hilarity of the show lol.

Wow, look at that. Ned's old Yale friend made a sketch downplaying him breaking a literal law by sleeping with his employee. Which even Ned himself said in an old video is very illegal. Hope SNL is proud of themselves for continuously getting worse.

@RosenrotRtLiebchen87 Oh civil cases are legal matters, and honestly it may be a pretty semantic issue, but I think the term "illegal" has so much weight behind it it's necessary to be more careful with our choice of words. To be clear, criminal and civil courts both handle legal cases but criminal court handle cases regarding breaking of laws, or illegal conduct, while civil court handles legal disputes, or situations that are legally questionable. By saying something is illegal, it means a law has been broken. If the girl he cheated on his wife with came out and said there was sexual harassment / assault involved, that would have been illegal. But if she came out and said the relationship that she had, which she consented to while recognizing the power imbalance involved, led to her reputation being tarnished or workplace harassment from other employees, she could potentially ask to be compensated for that experience from Ned, which would be handled in civil court. For example, you can sue a company or person for negligence due to some accident leading to you being hurt, but negligence is not illegal in and of itself. But considering neither of these things have happened, the relationship itself should not be considered illegal, as it is not criminally prosecutable and nothing has been filed / he has not been found liable to any hurt she sustained in civil court.

@durkslag legal also means civil cases i thought... as in legal matters

@ToxicatedLum will stephen is the yale buddy snl writer he talked about on trypod

@rehoboth favours i mean you can be fired for doing something that's against company policy but not illegal in the state/country. people get fired for talking too much

Even if it were illegal that doesn't make it unethical (the cheating is unethical tho)

Ah yes. The Buzzfeed guys. Who did their research for this 😂

Oh look how Ned’s SNL friends failed at building his image again. A year long cheating sandal, betraying and embarrassing his wife and children, betraying your friends/business partners, putting the other members of try guys at risk of their jobs and reputations. The fact that there’s more stuff coming to light of his affair is nasty. It’s disgusting to make fun of Keith, Eugene and Zach in this situation where they not only had to take the proper precautions for this affair, but they also lost a friends they trusted. The betrayal of Ned to his wife, kids and the rest of the team is unbelievable. Good job SNL at ruining your own imagine trying to make a joke out of the affair, the sexual misconduct at the work place and how it was handle, Keith, Zach and Eugene’s struggles of dealing with the situation and how they also were betrayed, but the worst part is you weren’t even thinking of his wife and kids who are being betrayed the most by the fry guy that made everything about his wife.

I think it's very telling that they never refer to Alex as Ned's *employee* , only as a Food Baby. Way to (probably deliberately) misunderstand the whole situation, SNL!

would love to see the extra spicy like/dislike ratio on this one

The fact that this skit is so dismissive of the entire situation is such a huge red flag of the entire SNL crew and how they may handle a similar situation🚩🚩

SNOW FLAKE!

Who gives af

onlyAerik Even now they’re not telling snl to deal with anything. They just find this whole shitty snl skit strange and incredulous. The people who work on snl clearly don’t give a shit about cheating, well, there’s still the fact that ned messed with like twenty three people’s livelihood. With all the speculation they were under, they were on the verge of getting canceled. And these people work on the internet, if they’re canceled, this job is over for them

onlyAerik No one asked snl to do sht from the beginning , no one cares about snl unless they’re like over fifty.,

You must be fun at parties

What is wrong with you all? They literally did what you're suppose to do in a business when there is work place misconduct? Maybe you all should acknowledge your own history with work place sexual harassment and assault, SNL.

Preach. They want to normalize this shit so we wont call them out on it when they hide sexual misconduct again in the future

Hot take 💁‍♀️ Besides this writing not taking the situation seriously, it’s also quite belittling snl’s reach to young people and their presence in pop culture literally grew out of the digital short format from the lonely island. their comedy was random and silly (🤪) and im sure really benefited from it as a business. the try guys content is in a similar format and I just feel like..why are you talking down on other creators in the same field? it just reeks of ego and jealousy and its NOT🤭🙅 cute they’re both businesses with schedules and not everything is going to stick, but there’s some great and memorable content from these people and there’s no funny thing about this sketch, just disrespectful

we have to do a better job of consciousness raising than throwing alphabet blocks into the ether and expecting whoever finds them to just put them in the right order. how long has the conversation about consent been in the mainstream? and yet all of these people with a straight face can call a relationship between an owner of a company and one of his employees “consensual”? I don’t care if an old friend of Ned’s was in the writers room; knowing the people involved doesn’t mean you understand the dynamic. We have to stop just leaving tools on the table with no explanation for how to use them. The presence of “consent” in the popular verbiage is useless if people are just going to apply it to any situation that fits their needs.

SNL needs to stick with the stuff that their demographic actually understands bc when they try to be “hip with the kids” it’s just so painfully unfunny

The fact they they never call her his employee. Wow.

@Scott McGee I mean I was just living life moving on from a random comment I threw out there. Now I'm back here so....yeah 👍👍👍 glad I can fill the time slot

@Angelica Figueroa Because I'm bored and like to start shit for fun. I mean it's not like you're doing anything productive in a YouTube comment section either

@Scott McGee I mean either way you keep wasting time and memory on replying. Like arguing and making fun are the same thing, at least to me since neither affects me, therefore you're wasting time, energy, but I guess you need the attention 🤨🤔 why else would you be here....hasn't been to make a point you've yet to do that ....

@Angelica Figueroa You think arguing and making fun of someone are comparable I don't think I'm the one with a disconnect. Sorry about how high-school went for you tho with that personality

@Scott McGee hunny you said I'm not worth arguing with but still worth the time to try and make fun of me....there's a level of disconnect with you and it's so sad it's funny but keep commenting.....you've got another five minutes to make a point, you haven't thus far but I'll hold out hope 🙏

This is vile. I wish it was more shocking to see SNL trying to cover and spin for an abuser. Everyone involved should be ashamed to be a part of this.

I appreciate that firing Ned was absolutely the right thing to do and it's very much justified that the Try Guys feel betrayed by their friends actions but that's not the joke here. The joke here is that Try Guys drama managed to break the internet and somehow become the most important news in the world so when you make that joke you take it to the extreme and make them seem as pointless as possible and the crime seem as inoffensive as possible. Having legendary actor Brendan Gleeson say "but she's a Food Baby" is objectively funny because it is clearly a silly thing nobody should care about. Conversely, a sketch laying into Ned just wouldn't be funny for anybody not immersed in the scandal and, importantly, has already been done everywhere. Now, there's a case to be made that they just shouldn't have touched this for fear of looking like they're legitimising predatory behaviour and power harassment but then you're into a separate censorship argument

I’ve loved SNL for 30 years. They’ve had some misses a few times. But this is a whole other level. Shameful, unfunny, and the writers of this should be humiliated that they have been duped into thinking this was an overreaction by the Try Guys.

I used to be a HUGE SNL fan. Iv've watched all their skits for years. I mean, I'm 51 now and have been watching the show since my youth. But before watching this piece, you have lost all my respect. Of all the possible funny things that you could have chosen about the situation, you picked the most wrong one: to try to make look good the person that misbehaved, and to make look bad the people who where trying to be honest and accountable. Shame on you, SNL team!