Oh wait I made a mistake. Riven's a skirmisher not a fighter. 😥 Also PSA: Fiora and Jax are also skirmishers, not fighters. Stop asking me why I didn't put Fiora's W or Jax's E -_-

Wait are-OH I always forget the slayers... assassins and skirmishers are there, assassins aren’t their own class type, slayers are

Kled passive for skirmishers

what is the name of the song you used in the video?

i would say skirmishers are more similar to fighters than assassins anyway. ESPECIALLY ones like riven, jax, and fiora. Like, you cannot convince me that riven is more similar to yone or yi or trynd than rek'sai or aatrox. she is so similar to aatrox that he's STILL called "riven 2" by a lot of people.

so fiora jax and riven are not fighters but rengar (the definition of an assassin) is a fighter?

A bit of theory crafting, to me the strongest strategy to use is to make the guys against you rage quit so here it goes. Shaco's Passive, Shaco's Q, Shaco's W, Shaco's E and Shaco's R. I think there won't be anything more frustrating than this combo.

@Waddles R fiddles passive fear is the passive from his Q though, not from his actual passive

@_Death_ Bro we're not THAT cruel

I just wanna say, I love you

@Communist Penguin I would drink to your well-being... If I had anything to drink XD

@Communist Penguin don't worry brah we're all gonna make it

Active: Jax enters Evasion, a defensive stance, for up to 2 seconds, causing all basic attacks against him to miss. Jax also takes 25% reduced damage from all champion area of effect abilities. After 1 second, Jax can reactivate to end it immediately.

R/halalmains

@Brody Gates you must playin with iron shitters

Eyyo drut reference

@Sam Ye, the only difference is the different classes and different usage

@Youtube Goose Well Shen is a warden, so he uses it to defend his teammates too

I feel like Nasus’s Ult is heavily underrated. Just because he’s not a 200years champ doesn’t mean that 70 armor AND magic resistance, 600 Bonus Heath, and half cooldown on Q (Camille Q on 0.5 sec cooldown?) should be ignored. Not to mention damage aura for 15 seconds and ridiculously short cooldown for such an ability

i think nasus best ability is his w; 95% slow and 48% cripple is insane on any fighter.

doesn't only half syphoning strike? as sylas q doesn't get the CDR, while for vayne which effects her q not tumble, let's sylas go invis on a cast? if I remember correctly

Imagine if Illaoi's W was her Q. SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK with % max hp damage every second.

Camille 2nd Q takes a while to cast tho

Minor critique: Illaoi's E does potentially have tentacles to use. The tentacles that spawn as a result of the tether being broken early (via running away or killing the spirit) spawn independently of the passive (your passive can be on cooldown and, if given the space to do so, up to three tentacles will spawn that can slap). They ultimately become subject to the same rules as all the other tentacles, therefore becoming unusable if applied to any other champion, but for the duration of that section of the E you will have access to a couple of tentacles.

@R B True, but you still have access to the tentacles. They do next to nothing, even on Illaoi, outside of being a nuisance. They still exist though, and that's all I was getting at.

problem: you miss the damage increase from illaoi q on those tentacles.

@Kinda Tim I usually bring it up because most people, rightly believing Illaoi is passive-reliant, seemingly disregard the tentacles exclusive to the E. It's a pet peeve more than anything lol.

I mean, we can basically consider those tentacles a part of the ability, because they do something on their own - they attack the vessel. Which, I think, is fair enough.

the fact that 2 of the 5 abilities were camille's and that her ult almost replaced j4 ult says a lot about how strong camille is edited the 4 abilities thing for 5 abilities, i forgot for a second how many abilities a champ has

@Santiago Carmona yeah the thing with Camille is that she really has the best kit in the game but it's also one of the hardest kits to use so you only really see her being stupidly strong in higher ranks

@Santiago Carmona there was a time where Camille actually didn't have an easy time laning into most matchups and would often only have opportunities to snowball from level 3-4 skirmishes for crab since even if she doesn't have prio hookshot lets her arrive / impact fights faster. you could blame item changes / her counters being neutered (renekton comes to mind) tp ignire / grasp allow her a free pass through lanes she has no business contesting. I think this might be a case of the playerbase optimising setup and gameplay around the champions strengths and weaknesses in a way that elevates the champion. AD hullbreaker Sion is another example of this being done, it got nerfed as soon as it caught mainstream appeal though.

yeah i mean, it's kinda dumb how you can just jump half a lane and oneshot an adc just by the sheer force of existing but other than that in general i just feel it's just a pretty good champion, not plain dumb op but not utterly useless like some old champions, she just has a lot of potential with all the tools she gets offered just by being her

the thing with camille's abilities are in a vacuum they're strong but inherently fair. Q offers you time to react / cc or disengage. E can be positioned against (hug the opposite side of the lane to camille's nearest wall) problems occur when her ult effectively remove a lot of the counterplay (lock you into an area where you can't kite away from her 2nd q / avoid e) so while her ult doesn't directly do that much damage the conditions it ensures make camille feel quite stat check-y while also having a lot of playmaking potential and escapes unlike typical stat checkers.

@Multi tbh i don't know if you are, i'd think that's the cause because camille for years has been one of the best toplaners. the thing is she's not an easy champion so it's not braindead op, however she has a lot of potential and if played well she's just a beast that cuts through your teammates and your towers for equal

I like How PQWER lools like "Power"

Sir the word Power has an O in-between the letter P and W, notice how PQWER does not have an O in-between P and W so I fail to understand how you mistake the word Power for PQWER which is not even a word in the English dictionary

Thats because larry designed it

*Terry Crews liked that*

finallu not the only one

thats what i thought.

Riot’s out here taking notes off of this to craft the new “balanced champion”

I think it would be interesting to see what your "ultimate kit" would be for each class, listing your nightmare-fuel combination of abilities in one kit, just to summarize the video.

@Fitmo GMC Xin e for extra attack speed

Ultimate nightmare Teemo passive Fiddle Q Shaco W Katarina E Kha zix evolved R

@Blazing Magic monster

vlad w fizz e

I think my combo would be: Darius passive, Riven q, Lee Sin w, AAtrox e, and Sett Ultimate. The rational being mega drain tank with insane mobility and damage, but also insec plays with w flash ult or engages with w ult

Id say mundo passive camile q pantheon w and sett e and morde ult

Passive: Mundo (CC immunity is just so useful on anyone, especially someone who is facetanking stuff) Q: Camille (Massive DMG, free MS, what more can you want?) W: Sett (Will combo really well with E, and plus one of the main balancing things for sett is his lack of mobility and ability to be CCed [both of which are now being covered], one of the main balances of higher dmg fighters like Camille is one shot-ability [which this covers].) E: Aatrox (20% Healing on Cammile Q? Dash to get true damage part of sett W [and healing on that too]? yes pls) R: Warwick or VI R for the gap close + cc (Edit: got rid of yone R, though LOL puts him in fighter class, as others have said, his primary is skirmisher assassin, and added VI r as it also provides same functionality)

@jam3syboy Build tiamat ig? Sett doesn't use CDs on wave and works fine, Jax doesn't use E on wave works fine, i think one can manage

@jam3syboy My idea has riven q, but even there, you can just take tiamat

What about waveclear though? No AOE abilities means you can't push waves at all

Or P: Darius Q: Riven/Camille W: Pantheon E: atrox R: Olaf atrox E into Pantheon W into Riven Q and autos coupled with Darius' passive and E's vamp would be disguisting, especially if you'd have the passive resistances, possibly CC invulnerability, AD, and MS from Olaf R. Oh my Editor, if you took this, Goredrinker/Eclipse, Spirit Visage and maybe Wrath Potion/Ravenous Hydra you'd be the most friggin disguisting champion in the game. As you may have seen I am a petty man and will insult MY enemies.

@pAftAq also would be good yes

I'm just gonna say that mordes ult can be game changing or absolutely useless

it all depends on the enemy's willingness to spend 1300g really

@Rukir Ok, but that wasn't my point. I'm saying it feels bad to use for the person playing Morde.

@Darcie an incredibly impactful ability that requires morde to be smart when using it (so he doesnt get 4 manned after he exits) and the enemy champ gets to play a little minigame is WAY better than the million point-click-die or stat stick ults in this game, imo

It's a badly designed ability, because it's entirely within the power of Morde's target to react and cancel it out. Any ability like that feels bad to use.

Would have been cool if you had first taken the 3 best abilities/passives like you did here, but then at the very end "designed" the best fighter from all of those abilities. Otherwise I am happy that you came back to make this mini series.

You know, Darius passive, Hecarim W, and Illaoi E is a pretty good combination in lane. All you need to do is and 1 E and you get easy regen from bleeding the spirit. Add Riven’s Q and the enemy risks dealing with the equivalent of 6-7 bleed stacks from the spirit’s damage transfer with the aoe physical damage.

From the support I must say Sorakas E is my favorite of all the supports abilities, In URF I call it the anti-fun zone.

@laplace I've had an Ez straight up cast his q in it before.

@Quickredf0x bc the ability is already casted, Soraka E doesnt make the spell disappear

I've been noticing recently that her e is delayed in actually casting the silence n people even though it was already down. I've already lost count of the number of times I cast it on someone and they used their ability anyways.

I personally like Vi's ult. Its a simple point and click, cc immune, dash that locks them in for a second and ensures no matter how fancy their moves or distance that you will reach them.

I remember having so much fun watching MockRock's video on smash moves and I'm hella pumped to see you retackle this video format! Looking forward to the rest~

It's videos like these that make me wish that League has a Legends of DOTA type game mode that allows you to mix and match any and all abilities in any slot

@I P Look at ultimate spellbook, it was a mess just with ults If they add more I believe the game will start crashing at like 2 minutes

Was about to comment the same thing. Riot really needs to copy Ability Draft.

Great video, one recommendation: it would be cool to see your mock champion at the end where you compile your subjective THE best abilities into a champ.

Now here's a question that remains in my head after the video. Which champ do you use as a base? I wonder which is the perfect fighter for a base for all the abilities.

For E I would make an arguement for Elise's Rapel. (Yes, Elise is a Diver) It is such a versatile ability, it can be used offensively as a gap closer. Defensively as essentially a zhonyas where you can end somewhere else. If you have vision of jungle camps or plants it can be used as an escape tool. If your jungling it can be used to stay alive in tight Drag/Baron fights just long enough to snag a smite. And it can even just be used for mind games. Maybe I'm biased as an Elise main, but the versatility of this move with other champion abilities could be freaking insane!

Might as well give my personal choices for this: Passive: Ornn Q: Darius W: Urgot E: Aatrox R: Olaf Have fun being the most unkillablle run-&-gun raidboss since actual Urgot

@Alex2005z it doesnt anymore

Ornn is a tank. lol

@Alex2005z it doesnt since the rework

@Red Stranger feel like a bit of a waste of a part of his passive

@Alex2005z It only removes the armor and mr passive, ornn passive still gives you a ton of bonus hp

it would be so fun to have a rgm where you draft a kit from all champion abilities (some exceptions for transformers etc)

like legends of dota

I'm very surprised none of Volibear's abilities even made honorable mentions here. Passive, W, E, and R are all extremely strong.

I love this. I always wondered about a world where you can swap anyones abilities for anothers in a mode. A fun/horrible one was Mordecaizer passive, lillia q(this can be changed to whatever), shivana w, karthus e and fiddlesticks ult. Just for fun.

here is my opinion for the perfect and yet somewhat balanced Passive: Darius so its interactive Q:Hecarim for good wave clear W:Jax for some auto resets and magic damage as well E:Nasus for poke and armor reduction R: Pantheon idk but i just like a fighter able to join fights lol

Im kinda perplexed that Fiora W didnt make honorable mentions, but with the sinergies you described with the abilities that did make the cut, I cant be mad at all. (Edit: I just realised that Fighters and Skirmisher are not the same, my bad) Very interesting concept for a video and Im excited for the next episode

ive been here since i started league and i have watched nearly all of your videos these last few months, i think this was a great way to revive this series and im glad to see it return

Can't wait for the next class based episode!

I would have expected Gwen for a W spot. Her "I dont give a damn" bullshi* in combination with more defense stats is extremly strong and could avoid ranged damage for some time. A huge plus on many melee fighter.

I feel like Mundo suffers from his passive more often than he benefits during lanephase, it essentially makes CC abillities deal extra damage to you. Now, this wouldn't be a huge issue if you could pick up the canister, but for some reason it has a habit of just straight up flying into the enemy champion.

Garen's ult is so good and in wildrift having it does have dash and aoe dmg you can use it to close gaps and with a high dps it's just good.

Ohh i wish they would create an ability draft mode like in Dota 2. Nice video :D I like this theme.

Ngl amongst the best passives i would definitely include Warwick's. It's almost exclusively the reason he can beat almost any other champ in a 1v1 at level one and that much pressure early can't be ignored on fighter.

I just really wish that you showed a list of which champions you are counting in a roll at the beginning of the episode. That way I can better compare in my head different choices

Hello Vars . If you are gonna make one video for adc's i recommend to consider aphelious R to best adc R . His ult is litterally hard cc/ stat boost / poke / sustain / and AOE if you have the roght weapon and it is AOE it doesnt matter what gun you use

Just to mention something. Pantheon empowered cones from the passive mortal will. According to the rules you set the empowered version is not available.

Would definitly come back to LoL if riot ever creates a build your own champion rotation mode.

I don't know if anyone's already said this, but one other interesting thing you could add to these videos would be at the end creating the ultimate most broken champion with a hodgepodge of the abilities you went over

It'd be interesting to see you theorycraft the best possible team by mixing and matching four different abilities from different champs and calling that a new champ.

Alright but imagine Darius Passive with an empowered Pantheon W and Darius Ult. Point & Click instakill

Great video :D My marksman best abilities are : P: Kindred for scaling or Ashe for annoyance Q: Senna - poke, utility and self peel W: Vayne - true damage uncapped by vaynes range and attack speed E: Ezreal - repositioning and damage R: Kindred - one of the most impactful ults in marksman, period :)

Vars: I won’t forget controllers/supports this time. Also Vars: So I’m gonna make my next videos tanks 😍

I'm really surprised Jaws of the Beast (Warwick Q) didn't make it considering how strong it is for a 6 second base cd ability considering its numbers and utility.

Since you like theory crafting please make a series where you come with concepts of champions. What would their abilities do is the only requirement but you can and things like theme or skin concepts for that champion.

Do you count viego as a fighter because I'd like to have his passive on any champ... It just makes you able to be relevant no matter what the situation

I will keep steadfast on the "Darius P, Heca Q, Sett W, Aatrox E and R" kit from the announcement post. If this is a mana champ, he would such digustingly high amounts of AD that he could drain tank entire teams while also doing a thousand damage with every Q.

I'm gonna give this another go. Because this is going to be a mouthful, here's the short answer: [P] - Jarvan IV; burst [Q] - Olaf; waveclear, sticking power [W] - Warwick; rotation pressure [E] - Camille; long range engage, stun [R] - Rek'sai; burst, drop tower aggro From the start, 2 abilites I'd like to use stand out: Olaf's Q and Camille's E. The later has such a wasted potential because it is a long range dash that stuns that A: is not in a jungle/support and B: is on a low waveclear champion. So what might be the single best ganking ability in the game was given to a champion with restricted potential to create roam timers. Olaf's Q, meanwhile, is such a versatile ability. The resets allow it to be a consistent DPS ability and its slow allows for excellent sticking potential. Its AoE and range makes it some of the best waveclear abilites in the game and sure its mana cost is steep but that is a worth cost to pay for that many uses. It even gives armor pen now. Another thing I'd like on that hyphotetical champion is map pressure through either an ability with semi-global range or a movement speed buff that lasts more than a few seconds, akin to Taliyah's passive, ASol's E or Pyke's W. Unfortunately there are only 3 abilities among all fighters that fit said description: Pantheon's R, Rengar's R and Warwick's W. I decided to go with the later to acess the rotation power earlier and more frequently. With the waveclear, the rotation pressure and the engage ready, there are a few things still missing I'd like on that hyphotetical champion. While Q resets and W and E both giving attack speed, DPS is certainly not a problem, but this champion is missing a bit of burst. Either that or some more lockdown because 0.75 seconds of lockdown often is not enough and slows don't cut it if the target is already close to tower. Speaking of which, some ability to play with tower agro is always appreciated. Low cooldown and/or level 1 ultimate is much appreciated too. Though at this point I already figured I was getting too picky. I can already scrap the only two level 1 ultimates avaliable for fighters: Udyr's because... bruh! And Elise's because hers is impossible to isolate from the rest of the champion. Sylas can use Elise's spider form abilities when stealing her ult, but I still don't think it is fair for me to include spider form's QWE as Elise's ultimate, as otherwise that'd just be the best choice everytime. Volibear's and Camille's and Rek'sai help dealing with tower aggro, but the former two's cooldowns are hideous, leaving Rek'sai as a strong candidate. Rek'sai's is, in addition, an execute, covering the burst that was lacking. The passives avaliable for picking aren't very interesting for the type of champion I'm going for so this was the hardest choice. Empowered abilities such as Pantheon's or Renekton's are impossible to evaluate because what would even be the power up of the non-Pantheon/Renekton abilities? Stacking or backloaded pressure passives such as Darius or Irelia's aren't preferable on the champion I'm going for either. With the QWER we already have, this champion already has plenty of good tools, the only thing missing is a little extra lockdown, but sadly Annie's or Braum's passive isn't an option here and there's no CC passives on the fighter class. Volibear's and Urgot's passive would give even more waveclear, but that's already covered and practical use elsewhere is limited. So I decided to take the loss and go with Jarvan's passive for some not bad extra burst. Some not bad short trades in lane, some extra damage to finish off minions Olaf's Q couldn't and so on.

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Imagine how much damage you would have with darius passive, riven q and garen e. Then put hecarim w on top of it and you're completely unkillable.

i love how the thumbnail legit highlights the theme around those champions by displaying ability letters in a ,,P Q W E R" word

Obviously Yone E: soul unbound it's the best designed ability in the whole game :)

Passive: Darius (Damage ) Q: Camille(More Damage ) W: Urgot (Even More Damage) E: Warwick( DR) R: Olaf( CC immune)

You know Urgots W can only target Champions that have been hit by one of his other abilities? Still a great choice, but Olaf R wouldn't be that good and Warwick E has a 11 sec CD at max (I know Urgot has also has a high CD on his E). I think your champion kit needs a ranged ability which slows the enemy.

Binge watching your videos, nice info 👌 others seem to dip off and chat rubbish but you stay on point 👉

Pretty telling that Camille was picked for best Q and E for ALL fighters. edit: and honourable mention for ult

Imagine, if you will, a champion with Olaf's new passive, Warwick's Q, Lee Sin's W, Aatrox's E, and Aatrox's R.

Thanks for the Udyr mention :) Can't wait for the rework

I was actually expecting a full 4 abilities + passive kit, not 3 of each, I want to know what Vars thinks, who cares which I'd choose?

I like the concept, and I agree with your picks. I would also like to see you list off all the champions that are eligible to be on your list. I'm going to make two different lists for myself - one for each subclass (Diver and Juggernaut.) Also, I'm not going to go for the best, but I'm going to try to make synergistic, strong, and really fun (in my opinion.) Also one ability per champion. Diver - - They will have Elise - Human's base Attack Range (550) - They will use Mana Passive - Diana - Moonsilver Blade Q - Camille - Precision Protocol W - Renekton - Ruthless Predator E - Rengar - Bola Strike R - Vi - Cease and Desist I accidentally created a ranged-diver champion with a potentially 650 range point & click stun and Camille Q. I'm so sorry everyone. Juggernaut - - They will have Urgot's Range (350) - They will be manaless P - Mordekaiser - Darkness Rise Q - Trundle - Chomp (AD changed to AP at 1.6* the scaling) W - Nasus - Wither E - Volibear - Sky Splitter R - Dr. Mundo - Maximum Dosage This time I think I created a much more fair champion, but one that can catch up to enemies and has the survivability to fight them, can stay on top of them, and do the damage to finish them off. Let me know what you think (besides top lane players who will despise my Diver)

The problem with Hecarims W is he doesn't do way more damage, so you still die super fast. His Q aoe is so tiny it's rare you'll hit more than 1-2 people with it

I feel like nasus W might be another good honorable mention at least. It's basically a you lose button in a 1v1

Passive: darius (broken if you can stack it fast Q: Camille ( more dmg and mv speed) or Udyr (for a lot of dmg too) W: Urgot (for a full darius passive in 2 sec) E: udyr (a stun each 5 sec and mv speed) or aatrox (for healing ) R: olaf ( total immunity to CC and to the slow of Urgot W and mv speed)

Urgot don't get slowed, he set his speed lower by 125(if i recall correctly). It doesn't interact with boots of swiftness, unflinching, phase rush, and sunfire. Source : I am an urgot main that learned that the hard way.

If you think about it you don't actually need aatrox omnivamp if you have Darius passive because then you can just buy goredrinker and then go full tank but you will still draintank because Darius passive will increase goredrinker healing. So how about Darius passive, nasus q nasus ult setts haymaker and Camile hookshot or Darius apprehend. Tank nasus relies on sheen to help with damage but now with armor pen from apprehend it's going to make him immortal. The problem is that the enemies might die before hemorage is fully stacked which makes him weaker

Be sure to Q attack with urgot's W off tho, or else your Q only deals half the damage

this is the reason why i think league need to add ability draft mode like dota did. theory crafting like this will be super useful there

Mundo passive - bonus Regen and some CC immunity Nasus Q - Infinitely scaling damage, procs sheen items. Sion W - Infinitely scaling bonus health and shield as well as a good amount of damage when explodes. Camille E - Long distance engage with a stun. Vi R - point and click, can't be dodged, lock down, knock back anyone in the way.

I'm surprised Warwick's E didn't get mentioned. Take it off him and give it to someone else and you can make them extremely tanky instantly

I think that mundo q is underated its tooo strong like 23% health in magic dmg with slow and no mana cost

Nasus' Q should get a shout out. Depending on the other abilities drafted, it'd have the potential to be insanely broken. Arguably even more so than camille's Q.

I’m salty Warwick’s Primal Howl (his E) wasn’t even on the honorable mentions. On max level you get 55% damage reduction and an AoE fear which can be recast

I need a support video, Zilian W makes some interesting possibilities.

Vars, I dont think we have forgiven you yet for forgetting both the Support Best Abilities video AND Karma in the Empowered Ability video so we again have to put faith you actually pull through now😭💗

Really? Do I even have to say that Darius P and Urgot W is the most broken combination in the game 💀

This video really made me want a "Theory champion" gamemode, where you get to pick a passive, q, w, e, and r from any champion in the game and throw them together on a single champion (the champion's passive you choose is the "body" you'd play with, getting that champion's base stats like attack range and movespeed and AD/health/ etc. I remember I saw this a few years ago as an interesting idea and this video just reinvigorated that.

Soo ability draft(dota) just a bit better?

The specialists video will be rather interesting I imagine.

As someone who loves playing specialists, how will champions be balanced around that class? Will specialists be treated as other classes depending on what playstyle is intended? will specialists be skipped entirely?

I like to think Darius passive and ult combined with camile Q would be a devastating combo cant decide on the best W tho what do you all think?

Can't wait to see Assasins and see Yone in every category cause he's such a balanced champ

@Zetsubo Ashura i meant that its not like Zed where he doesnt HAVE to go back at the end of the time limit, although being able to go back early is also really dumb

@Mozzy wdym, he can press e and go back 💀💀

His e is literally a BETTER Zed ult, the only downside is that you don't get a choice to go back or not, but most of the time your return point is behind a wall or under tower so its safe, and it means you can go back while cced. Not to mention it does the damage storing on everyone you hit not just the initial target.

Don't agree with Mundo passive as only its ideal situation/application is mentioned. While CC immunity is potentially invaluable, 7% of his current health is a hefty price to pay every 15 seconds if the enemy can proc it easily. Not to mention you need higher mobility than the enemy or you wont regain any health due to the enemy stepping on it first (which Mundo/fighters don't often have). As Mundo I often wish I didn't have the passive at all as I'd be able to tank more damage and just tenacity through their CC.

Nasus Q isn't getting enough recognition here. Imagine this coming at you: Rengar P Nasus Q Warwick W Camille E Olaf R It's a shame Sion isn't a fighter anymore; his infinite health being tied to his W would have made it a strong contender. Keep it in mind for tanks.

you would need to use your ult on most of champions to fully utilise the Irelia's passvie

Vars was 🤏 this close to just putting all of Camille's kit in here

From ur vid the best fighter would have Darius pass, Riven Q, Panth W, Illoai E, Morde ult. Daripa, the heart breaker, feeling female darkin that was on the shadow isles b4 ruination maybe effected her but not kill, caused the death of viego's love. Uses her organs as weapons.

Ok so what I'm gathering from this is that the best fighter abilities are Camille

I think the only one you are forgetting here (that almost everyone does) is malphite w. Just a passive flat 30% bonus armor that goes up to 90% while shielded. THAN he gets an enhanced auto attack and titanic hydra on all auto attacks for 5 sec at the cost of 25 mana. This ability is ridiculous.

I feel like mordekaiser W is by far the best w a fighter could ask for

I personally think you did overlook Warwicks passive. Healing 100/250% when below 50/25% health is gamebreaking when not on a champion like warwick. My personal choice would be: for a Juggernaut: P: Warwick Q: Riven W: Sett E: Urgot R: Olaf You don't kill this thing because it cannot be cc'd while having 4 small dashes and a nuke of true dmg that you want to cast at low health anyway for a diver it would be: P: Mundo Q: Camile W: Pantheon E: Camille R: Mordekaiser/wukong Dash in while needing two hard cc's to be stopped, then either know up the whole team twice (which synergises extremly well with camille Q) or duel your target in the shadow realm. and you can lock a target further with W

For best E ability I really think counterstirke should be at least an honorable mention.

Man, I wish that LoL has a gamemode that Dota has where it pretty much scrambles all the skills a champion has.

If we get to mages the Ziggs w Veigar e combo would have a lot of counterplay.

here is my opinion for mages Passive:Xerath since most mages needs mana having technically unlimited mana is quite helpful especially in laning phase Q:Taliyah with the new taliyah rework her q is good for poking , clearing waves and even bursting champions W:Ziggs having that knockback or your own blast cone is so helpful especially against close ranged champions like divers so you go in safe distance and they go away from you plus destroying low health turrets with this is quite handy as well E:Neeko having an aoe morgana q at max rank is quite powerful especially for teamfights R:Vex having a long range dash and resets is so good for mages since alot of mages are immobile so having this ult is much more reliable and much more rewarding

"What keep this balance is that it is on Darius who takes a while to get to maximum stacks" Darius : AA w AA e AA Q, yup, takes long XD Especially with W that slow for 90% for a whole second

Darius Passive, Riven's Q, Sett W, Jax's E and Mordekaiser's ult - I just gave rito an idea for their new "masterpiece". Edit: I forgot about something very important - this champion should have very high base attack speed in order to be "balanced". And I think this new "Riven Qs" should aditionally shreds armor just to differ an abillity from Riven's Qs.

How awesome would a gamemode in league be if it was about theory crafting ur perfect champ and playing it on the rift.

Honestly Shyvana's Q is GREAT because not only does it count as 2 auto's, but each auto reduces the CD by 0.5 seconds. So it's an impressive ability all things considered, low CD, CD shortener, and because it's 2 auto's stuff that stack with attacks stack MASSIVELY faster then other Q's. Sure the second Q doesn't hit as hard but it's still can chunk

@dawidlol1337 Ok then re-read, did I state it was better then those? No I said it's a great ability and listed why it's a great ability. Never said it was an amazing ability

@Kelmir Osue Yeah I have watched the video. You do realise that precision protocol can re recast early if you really want to stack something fast, it's not like you have to wait 1.5s and by late game the cooldown of it is basically as soon as the chogath ult is used. Shyv Q is nice with her kit but I really don't see how it would ever be better than precision protocol. Camille Q is so powerful as she is practically a 2 ability champ. Q for damage, E for mobility. R is nice but it doesn't do anything crazy it only really used to dodge a spell or gap close it's kinda half a spell.

@dawidlol1337 I don't think you watched the entire video. Go rewatch it for comment context

But you would be missing her W and E on hit effects proccing twice

Yay! My OTP made an appearance. Love Jarvans ulti.

Camille being in there twice says a lot about her

can viego passive count, if yes then I would argue its one of the best

I think I would make a drain tank fighter and do like Morde Passive, Olaf Q, Hecarim W, Camille E, and J4 Ult

I think this series is pretty cool though in the future you should maybe clarify what falls under the class your talking about. There seems to be some confusion on what a fighter is.

If riot were smart enough, the idea of a gamemode about this would be so cool.

Vars be like : Camille Q is amazing, Camille E is amazing, Camille R is also really nice, yes I like Camile too vars

Imagine Irelia with Ragnarok though. Current. Where it lasts infinitely as long as you auto.