This Jumbo Jet CRASHED just after Takeoff, WHY?! Korean Air Cargo flight 8509

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    A Boeing 747-200 falls out of the sky only 2 minutes after takeoff from London Stansted Airport runway 23, what has caused this?
    In todays video I will trace the story of Korean Airlines flight 8509. The story will cover a long chain of events leading up to the crash.
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    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:59 - Chapter 1: Overview
    07:10 - Chapter 2: Stansted Maintenance
    12:51 - Chapter 3: The Crew
    20:48 - Chapter 4: Cleared For Takeoff
    27:03 - Chapter 5: Impact
    28:05 - Chapter 6: The Final Report
    32:14 - Exclusive Offer from Blinkist
    33:27 - Chapter 7: Full Simulation
    35:38 - Outro


    Below you will find the links to videos and sources used in this episode. Enjoy checking them out!

    Final Report: assets.publishing.service.gov...

    Korean Air Cargo 747 Photo: @Michel Gilliand
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_...

    Crash Site Image: @Aircraft Enthusiast
    www.reddit.com/r/aircrashinve...

    Images of Crash Area: @tailstrike.com
    www.tailstrike.com/221299.htm

    Korean Air Cargo 747 taking off: @Urs Zimmermann
    cdn.airplane-pictures.net/ima...

    Flight 801 Crash: @Rex B. Cordell
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_...

    Follow me car: @Maurtis Vink
    twitter.com/Aviation_Pics/sta...

    Maintenance Photo: @3blmedia.com
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    Mechanic Photo: @Jack Stratten
    www.spartan.edu/wp-content/up...

    Cockpit maintenance: @Sabena Technics
    www.sabenatechnics.com/wp-con...

    Wire Image: @dsportmag
    dsportmag.com/wp-content/uplo...

    ADI images: @WorthPoint

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    www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...

    B747-200 Cockpit Photo: @Kevin Bietri
    bit.ly/3p90Hqk

Adrian Ciobotaru
Adrian Ciobotaru

34:24 front gear take off.... 35:28 ground impact... this should be called: "How to crush a plane in one minute or so"...

Vor 47 Minuten
Adrian Ciobotaru
Adrian Ciobotaru

i just can't believe that a pilot can crush a plane, just by turning to the left too much... he was low, he could see out of the windows, the fact that de plane was leaning to the left, even if his instrument showed that it did not... i can't believe that he pulled so much to the left, that he crushed the plane... low- quality pilot...

Vor 51 Minute
Adrian Ciobotaru
Adrian Ciobotaru

what do you mean: the first officer does not speak english at all ??? is this possible ??? please, can i be the one flying the planes, instead of all those who don't even spea, english ??

Vor Stunde
James Huggins
James Huggins

These videos are top notch

Vor 12 Stunden
Armando Covelli
Armando Covelli

Thats why I always fly america,british ad german airlines, I dont trust the other ones.

Vor Tag
Jeremy Truesdell
Jeremy Truesdell

Thank god that this was a cargo flight, and not passenger service, nor impacted a populated area. Tragic as it is, it could have been SO much worse. Thank you for the valuable lesson, and RIP to the KAL crew.

Vor Tag
James Street
James Street

It sounds like this captain was a real cock. I learned long ago that you can catch more bees with sugar than you can with shit.

Vor 2 Tage
James Street
James Street

@ 10:11 I hope that's not the actual wiring on a plane.

Vor 2 Tage
Peoples Ambassador DM
Peoples Ambassador DM

Re looking at this vid, Korean culture consists sort of a tough comradish style of rule, one that is punishable by lack of complying... hense the FO not saying a word!! Hope this can change cuz everyone input in this scenario could save lives... 👍👍👍

Vor 3 Tage
Peter Köln
Peter Köln

Brilliant! Thanks for your work.

Vor 6 Tage
Nikolaos Peterson
Nikolaos Peterson

Assuming for a moment if i was the captain, I would occasioally glance at both the standby smaller ADI AND the FO's ADI just to see if they all agree. It's elementary Watson! Just to rely on my own be it the captain's or if I were to be the FO, I would indeed glance over just to be certain that all three would be in sync. I would let the other pilot know if i would see any descepencies. REALLY so simple and only takes about two seconds to do!

Vor 7 Tage
KevinDC5
KevinDC5

Humility is something that seems lost especially in today’s society. We as people; as whole humanity, would be so much better off if we could sometimes swallow our pride and admit our faults and wrongdoings.

Vor 8 Tage
20chocsaday
20chocsaday

There was a diagram in a ww1 pilot's training (as a poster) of what happens if the plane turns too soon after taking off. The biplane would begin to fall on its side then hit the ground. The power to weight ratio is far higher now.

Vor 9 Tage
Aadidev Sooknanan
Aadidev Sooknanan

That intro gives a "Seconds From Disaster" vibe in the best possible way

Vor 10 Tage
Efraín Jiménez
Efraín Jiménez

I'm binging this channel.

Vor 10 Tage
A Thunderbolt H
A Thunderbolt H

Military pilots ought be vetted extremely well before they are permitted to fly Commercial IF AT ALL.

Vor 11 Tage
A Thunderbolt H
A Thunderbolt H

Don’t fly KAL

Vor 11 Tage
jfsa380
jfsa380

No wonder few major airlines use stanstead, this chain of cockups would be contract jeopardizing. I’d rather fly out of Luton.

Vor 11 Tage
Howard C
Howard C

"WHY?! Korean" pretty sums it up

Vor 11 Tage
William Walker
William Walker

I can not believe this person was a real pilot. A student pilot with only 10 hours knows better than what this pilot did. When you put in an input to bank with the yoke you check the attitude indicator then the heading indicator to see if you are turning. Then you check the turn coordinator then the altimeter. vertical speed and air speed. Then you restart the scan. In the video you can see the heading indicator turning how are you going to know when you are on the new coarse if you do not look at it.

Vor 11 Tage
Yaroslav Миколайович
Yaroslav Миколайович

Why do they even bother with a crew. Might as well just put the Captain flyings and have same outcome in terms of quality.

Vor 12 Tage
ㅇ 。ΛTTΞNIΞSΞ
ㅇ 。ΛTTΞNIΞSΞ

In Outliers, by Malcolm Gladwell, this phenomenon you speak of—cockpit gradient—is spoken about in the chapter “The Ethnicity of Plane Crashed — about KAL — in the psychological term Power Distance Index. Subsequently KAL incorporated American airline management principles applied to their CRM and straightened their flight record out to the extent that they achieved membership in Star Alliance. I lived in Korea 15 years—so became quite familiar with the hierarchical nature of not only their educational and corporate structure, but of their society in general. Gladwell’s book is excellent and I—one other thing—I think the flight engineer (in the end) was probably exclaiming “Ya! Ya! Ya! Bisang! Wihum… Bank! Bank! bank….”, or ‘Hey! Hey! Hey! Emergency! Danger!’ “Ya” in Korean, would never be uttered to an superior, as means more than “hey”; in terms of hierarchy it is only exclaimed toward equals, subordinates or at anyone else in instances of insubordination, violence or—as in this case, cockpit-leveling-terror.

Vor 12 Tage
Martyn James
Martyn James

Back then, I was an English teacher in Korea and I taught a group of Korean Air mechanics. We talked about the crashes. Anyway, all I can say is that these guys were certainly far from being the smartest apples in the barrel.

Vor 12 Tage
Vance Keith
Vance Keith

Many Asian carriers over relay on instrumentation and not hand flying an aircraft. I am NOT picking on Asian pilots but its well documented. Look out the window when able!

Vor 12 Tage
Vance Keith
Vance Keith

weather?? VMC/IMC?? kind of important

Vor 12 Tage
BoyPisonet Pisonet
BoyPisonet Pisonet

Korean Airline = NO GOOD

Vor 13 Tage
Ron Allen
Ron Allen

I hope that when something goes wrong in (say) nuclear power plant operation, or in civil engineering project and construct work generally, there is this level of post--critical-event investigation AND attempt to share learning between not just organisations but nations and across cultures. Strangely, I think watching these videos is impacting the safety of my car driving in a positive way, so thank you for that! You may never be able to make safety sexy, but you sure help to make it engaging in a very accessible way.

Vor 18 Tage
diecast jam
diecast jam

I remember this from Air Cras Investigations, in that they said it was down to the relationship between the pilot and copilot, the copilot not wanting to contradict the pilot, because he was senior to him and Korean culture stresses respect to those that are senior to you, I always felt a bit uncomfortable about this surly self preservation would take over?

Vor 18 Tage
metrocaptain
metrocaptain

@6:15 it shows a 747-8. Note the GE NextGen engines with the scalloped cowling. LOL I'm guessing @MentourPilot couldn't find a -200 in his software program so he used the -8 because it sorta looks like the -200 without the winglets.

Vor 18 Tage
VLesPaul
VLesPaul

These videos are so interesting! You have so much knowledge! Do you learn all this technical information (how the instruments function etc) as part of vocational training or you researched as a personal interest? I’ve so much respect for you , thanks for all the hard work putting these together 😎👍🏻😁

Vor 19 Tage
Mentour Pilot
Mentour Pilot

A lot is training but most is research for each video. You need the original training to fully understand the technical details in the reports though. Thank you!

Vor 19 Tage
Jeffrey N Frazier
Jeffrey N Frazier

I get so tired of 30 minute ads on a 30 minute video

Vor 21 Tag
SmokeDawgg
SmokeDawgg

It's amazing any flight makes it considering just how much can go wrong.

Vor 23 Tage
Mr. Writer
Mr. Writer

Brilliant much respect ✊

Vor 23 Tage
name
name

What I don't understand is, forget about the FO, why wouldn't the captain think of looking at the other two screens when he knows something was weird instead of just looking at his own. Which means not only his attitude, his skills are equally bad :face-palm:

Vor 23 Tage
Mirko
Mirko

Question: Can't you "feel" the plane banking at some point? I've watched a few videos where the instruments don't work (+ plane is in clouds or flighing in the dark) and the plane goes into a high bank angle kind of unnoticed...I think I remember from my flights as a passenger that i could more or less feel the plane doing turns and these should have been less than 30 degrees. But yeah no idea, you aviation guys might know :)

Vor 24 Tage
rbnhood39
rbnhood39

I feel like the captain should have been able to sense the over banking regardless of his instruments, especially with his many years of flying. He crashed a perfectly good airplane.

Vor 25 Tage
Janne Peltonen
Janne Peltonen

I wonder. CRM with a low authority gradient is an approach easy to teach to someone from Sweden, where... oh, this joke doesn't work in English. Well, anyway, Where the extra polite form of "you" similar to what Germans use to strangers and higher-ups in social hierarchy, is only reserved to address the King, and even him only when it's his birthday. No so for someone whose native language actually has different levels of polite forms used towards people according to their *absolute* position in the social hierarchy.

Vor 26 Tage
Michael Sommers
Michael Sommers

I don't understand why the captain couldn't see what was happening by looking out the window.

Vor 26 Tage
Cédric Duchesne
Cédric Duchesne

9:03 Wtf happened there????

Vor 28 Tage
RONNIE MIDDLEHURST
RONNIE MIDDLEHURST

So glad I came across your channel....keep up the good work!

Vor Monat
RV Sparky
RV Sparky

When banking the aircraft can you not feel that its banking or does it get so normal you don't feel it. I can't imagine turning the wheel seeing or feeling it bank, look at the display and think no its not and give it more turn. At some point you would have to think their is an issue neve mind the buzzer sounding. It's as if the captain fell asleep and the others were like eh. No problem

Vor Monat
edgar wahl
edgar wahl

What we learning on this story ? Equal the difference of age, is somethings goes wrong communicate it No reaction, take the control over

Vor Monat
RufftaMan
RufftaMan

The animation at the end is really eerie. When you watch a 30 minute video about an incident like that and you analyze all the details of what has happened, you tend to forget how quickly everything unfolded. You think "how can that even happen?" and then you see it in real time.. tough to imagine being in that situation.

Vor Monat
Irish sixty six Fan
Irish sixty six Fan

Called get me out of here itis

Vor Monat
Seth
Seth

If only the principles of CRM were applied to politics.

Vor Monat
Crazy Cherokee
Crazy Cherokee

Maybe its just my pagan beliefs, but before takeoff there were so many things keeping them from taking off, the universe tried stopping them. Sometimes people respond positively to obstructions like that, maybe take the extra time to go through the logbook and do other tests of the equipment. Sometimes people respond negatively, and that's when accidents can happen most frequently.

Vor Monat
Mihir Panchal
Mihir Panchal

Boy this would have given me chills to fly Korean air in the 90’s.. like really? They just ignored such an important alarm so nonchalantly and no one spoke up when the plane was clearly in heavy bank left and dive due clearly faulty instrumentation? Wow

Vor Monat
205hermanic
205hermanic

What is the Cockpit Gradient with your dogs please?

Vor Monat
oceans taiga
oceans taiga

Seeing that Korea to this day has a big seniority culture in companies and almost all men are ex military because of mandatory enlistment I can see how it would be a problem inside a cockpit

Vor Monat
J Scott Upton
J Scott Upton

I spent 3 years in Korea so I know of what you speak.

Vor Monat
Ashish Warudkar
Ashish Warudkar

The concept of 'Cockpit Resource Gradient' is powerful and applicable in all situations where the need to speak up finds itself against the need to submit to authority. Age differential in that mix complicates the matter. Excellent explanations !!

Vor Monat
Jerry Crow
Jerry Crow

Blinklist was a credit card number grabber.

Vor Monat
Michael K.
Michael K.

Looks a little bit like the british investigators deflected the blame from the british maintenance crew to Korean Airlines.

Vor Monat
James Hawkins
James Hawkins

It is hard to give this video a like. The video itself is great; the story is terrible.

Vor Monat
Ján Jakabovič
Ján Jakabovič

How is it possible , that captain did not feel bank level by gravity ...80-90 degrees are so significant, that there should be things flying in cockpit.... I do no understand....

Vor Monat
Alan Thomas
Alan Thomas

iv watched a few of these and it always seems to be based around time and/or money . the pilot was getting frustrated over a 20 minute delay .

Vor Monat
Luisito
Luisito

I loved this video it was very informative and I love the details and all the procedures you did an excellent job/ everyone involved, only thing for me is how unaware of whats happening those guys were, like your not gonna feel a 30% bank angle??! The plane was almost upside down before they realized something was wrong! A captain with 8500 hours didnt know he couldnt just keep turning the airplane?

Vor Monat
ZACH COSTANTINO
ZACH COSTANTINO

KEEP THE BLUE SIDE UP!

Vor Monat
Sean O'green
Sean O'green

Nice having the narrator, who knows what the hell he's talking about. Who Teaches , us all about history and how to avoid it. 2 thumbs up, to all of our heroes that get High, when they go to work !!

Vor Monat
David Pirtle
David Pirtle

This is going to sound stupid but I don't understand how the pilot didn't feel the plane banking even at 30degrees. It sounds like he just titled the plane until a 90 bank without noticing then dove down Into the ground. I know it's not that simple but that turn was massive for a 747

Vor Monat
Geoff Clarke
Geoff Clarke

Great video. Have now subscribed.

Vor Monat
Mentour Pilot
Mentour Pilot

Glad you found it interesting!

Vor Monat
Kathy Kaehler
Kathy Kaehler

Love your videos very informative

Vor Monat
jernejj5
jernejj5

Japan is known for senpai - hohai relation. Even if you know your boss is wrong and you are right, you cannot say it. In Korea this is even bigger "issue". Not just in an aircraft, but in every office every one must speak up if there are some problems or clear safety violations.

Vor Monat
clarsach29
clarsach29

I live in the UK and don't recall this one....KAL had some serious bad luck over the years, the worst probably being KAL007 which was shot down north of Japan by Russian fighters in 1983 and the near shooting down of a KAL 747 over Alaska on 9/11.....I would love to see a reconstruction of KAL007 but of course that's impossible as the flight recorders were never handed over by the Russians...not many flights with quite as many conspiracy theories surrounding them though.

Vor Monat
patrick Frawley
patrick Frawley

Does the Captain not use his eyes to look at the horizon, Bloody hell a lead weight dangling on a bit of string would have given you some idea that something was wrong. Even flying by the seat of your pants should have to you something was wrong. No I am not a pilot, but common sense comparing the angle you are sitting in your seat to the horizon should have told you your turn angle was far to great. Its not rocket science.

Vor Monat
A. person
A. person

that pilot sounds a lot like how my own grandfather (who flew 747s for 30 years) was. unfortunately. not a great guy. someone to avoid at all costs. stewardesses spat in his lunch for good reasons. (he liked to play that off as a joke)

Vor Monat
Mark Freeman
Mark Freeman

Let's remember, poor CRM did not cause this accident. I might have helped to save them, but was not the cause. Having instruments fail with zero visibility is no walk in the park. It's literally a death sentence that you may or may not recover from.

Vor 2 Monate
Carbon 12
Carbon 12

The sad part is I think the pilot is angry precisely BECAUSE the FO is so deferential. I somewhat feel if the engineer was in the FO seat they'd have had a chance - of who am I kidding the pilot seat as he seemed to be the only one with any situational awareness. But at night with that kind of error, I think there is a good chance of a crash with those turn pressures. As for the compounding the issue by trying to turn harder, i'm guessing that flying instinct to not do that is suppressed at the dread of their punishment if the airline gets fined. Sounds like a thoroughly toxic airline to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if the engineer would've got in to trouble if he tried to get the manual to do it properly too. All in all, even though the crew was crap, the failure was a severe one. I'm not sure even the pilot can be blamed for the crash, rather I think that turn out is dangerous at such low altitude at night when the crew is so busy. If there was no engineer as nowadays and the CRM was good, the FO would still have been switching channels so I don't think this is avoidable today except for the exceptionally better training. I think a lot of the pressure comes from the UK sadly, as we are viciously strict, which is great when it comes to safety, but some airlines put that pressure back on their staff, without giving them the training to cope with it back then.

Vor 2 Monate
Mark Freeman
Mark Freeman

You almost need a "self-test" button for the entire aircraft, before setting off.

Vor 2 Monate
Thomas Maia
Thomas Maia

I enjoy your videos and the way you explain flight procedures. Definitely subscribing.

Vor 2 Monate
Ashesh INFINITE
Ashesh INFINITE

Basically, the plane crashed because of a snob captain!

Vor 2 Monate
dcproman
dcproman

As a seasoned passenger, but not aviator, I follow many of the aircraft accident TouTube channels, primarily because of the extensive investigation and analysis of causes of such accidents. Your channel is far and above all others because of your experience and analysis of causation and the investigations themselves. Your close attention to human factors, including but not limited CRM issues,

Vor 2 Monate
Katheryn Ruiz
Katheryn Ruiz

As I recall, the crash landing of Asiana (also a Korean airline) at SFO was also blamed to a great extent on cultural differences of command.

Vor 2 Monate
Lee drummond
Lee drummond

Videos full of great content. 👍. Im not frightened of planes myself. They r safe as houses. But competent pilots are a must.

Vor 2 Monate
Dave B
Dave B

*In Korean Culture the older person is ALWAYS right. Working with many Koreans I can totally see this attitude becoming a problem. I worked for this one guy who had no idea what he was doing it was his first time, but rather than listen would constantly make mistakes until I got fed up and started saying "Should have listened told you so, I was right wasn't I?" To the point where I just couldnt work for him. Also another guy older then me with no experience I was excellent at what I was doing and had been for years would go ask the other guy because he was older, like it damaged his pride to listen to someone half his age* Honor and pride : the stories of them stabbing themselves with knives because of honor thats a real thing if not with a knife but with their wallet. Ridiculous customs.

Vor 2 Monate
Madsalan
Madsalan

These videos are both professional and understandable even for non pilots like me

Vor 2 Monate
Bilacus
Bilacus

Gripping!

Vor 2 Monate
Nick Talbot
Nick Talbot

And if even the FO is wrong about something, he has now learned something.

Vor 2 Monate
Nick Talbot
Nick Talbot

The cockpit power gradient is going to be especially problematic in Asian countries where seniority has been such a hugely important and uncontested facet of life. Like everywhere, I’m sure these cultural traits have some positive influences and some negative. Even before you said he was berating the FO, I was going to say I bet he was hyperventilating having to fly next to this super senior captain. [I wrote this even before I saw the flight report specifically mention Korean culture].

Vor 2 Monate
Sapwolf
Sapwolf

Hey, where are the two dogs? :-)

Vor 2 Monate
James Adcock
James Adcock

1st officer had too much respect for his captain that's why it crashed. In so many words

Vor 2 Monate
James Adcock
James Adcock

I live near there it could of been alot worse. At first people thought it was Lockerbie all over again

Vor 2 Monate
77thTrombone
77thTrombone

"Poor CRM" kinda trivializes it. Seems like it was a very unhealthy atmosphere, even for an authoritarian leadership style. The maintenance log flew away with they maintenance guy on a different flight and was never found? Did the maintenance guy go to Argentina? I'm going to replay this to see if I missed some little subtlety...

Vor 2 Monate
MountainGoat
MountainGoat

Great presentation. I've watched so many of these crashes and, in so many of them, either the captain, the 1st officer, the flight engineer, or all 3 act like such morons and do the most incredibly stupid things, it just blows my mind - like the captain here ignoring the comparator warning audio and warning lights and not bothering to look at the other two ADIs. And not only ignoring the warnings, but at the same time ignoring the unusual lack of roll response on his own ADI as he puts in more and more aileron, of course knowing full well over-banking the airplane can quickly kill you at that low altitude (and even often at high altitude for this type of aircraft when it goes into a dive and over-speeds). Maybe he was overly tired or had some other kind of mental problem that would prevent him from properly assessing the situation which should have been EASY to do! And if I was that flight engineer and saw those other 2 ADIs telling me I was about to die, and saw the captain not responding to me shouting BANK! BANK!, I'd undo my seat belt, grab that yolk, and turn that sucker with all my might to level the plane. Screw any worries about getting fired! These are just such frustratingly mind-blowing idiotic actions by very experienced people. What a waste.

Vor 2 Monate
Ducato RV
Ducato RV

Whenever its an Asian crew the blame is put on "Asian culture". But I don't hear this when planes crash at the hands of experienced high ranking Western captains. The Tenerife air crash is a good example: Captain Veldhuyzen van Zanten, a KLM training captain and instructor for over ten years, and he did not listen to the FO.

Vor 2 Monate
M Webb
M Webb

The engineer... slowly realizing the captain isn't responding to the call of "bank!" must have been the worst last moments ever.

Vor 2 Monate
5th Gen
5th Gen

Crm problem once resulted into cfit inside Pakistan domestic flight by air blue some years back. Horrific flight flown into mountains just because very senior captain started questioning the professionalism of FO who was x airforce pilot in beginning of the flight. The captain's fault completely avoidable resulted in all lives lost on plane. The FO clearly saw it coming and warned captain verbally but in vain he should had taken control from captain once he knew what is wrong. Total failure of Crm due to captain

Vor 2 Monate
Jacek Marczyk
Jacek Marczyk

Three, not tree.

Vor 2 Monate
My Name is Gladiator
My Name is Gladiator

You use the English expression "Tell him off" incorrectly. Instead you should perhaps say: "The Korean Air first officer and engineer did not correct him" or "they did not feel they could correct the captain." Telling someone off is what you do when you've completely had it with someone like your boss, and in a very personal and usually unprofessional way, tell him to go "F*** himself" and that you quit. That's telling someone off.

Vor 2 Monate
Daniel Hartin
Daniel Hartin

Love the shirt. Inverted horizon with the caption "This Is How I Roll".

Vor 2 Monate
Iriga Richard
Iriga Richard

Could you help explain why the system did not issue the usual "BANK ANGLE" alert? or it was not part of the 747?

Vor 2 Monate
youcantata
youcantata

Excellent video! Very educational flight accident analysis! As a senior Korean, I understand the attitude of the first officer. On those authoritative old Korean days, the young, obedient subordinator is hard to speak up against frustrated senior captain. So even if he felt something is going wrong, he feared to speak up to senior and remained silent. Classic case of Korean workplace disaster and wrong CRM. Every Korean pilots and workers in general should watch this video.

Vor 2 Monate
kidpagron primsank
kidpagron primsank

The reasons why age-old culture should not be in a cockpit

Vor 2 Monate
Jackie Ronald Wayerston
Jackie Ronald Wayerston

Basically it was because of _-Sempai-Kouhai-_ senior-junior hierarchy.

Vor 2 Monate
Me Here
Me Here

Nough-Teá, Knàw-TéiGh BUTT Power-Phull él Capatain

Vor 2 Monate
Asad Shafique
Asad Shafique

Heading indicator was right under the ADI, pilot didn't even see that turning.

Vor 2 Monate
Paul Etchells
Paul Etchells

cowboy outfit

Vor 2 Monate
mlovmo
mlovmo

I like how you say, "Seee ewl"

Vor 2 Monate
postersm 71
postersm 71

I was always taught the chain and breaking the chain of events. The Swiss cheese model took me some time to get used to but it really makes sense. Thank you for everything you do Mr. mentor pilot

Vor 2 Monate
ATMAtim
ATMAtim

Interesting series of bad mistakes. It always boils down to the series of mistakes. I wonder what was going on in the ground engineer's head when he realized he had signed this death decree?

Vor 2 Monate

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