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There were 5 specific attacks that I was trying to get the "Whimsicott" slot to survive. Whimsicott could only survive 3, whereas Cottonee could only just survive all 5. I've long forgotten what they were. I will gladly take the title of weirdest Pokemon used to win a tournament :)

absolute legend

❤

Took the liberty to go through your team report video to see the attacks it was meant to survive, for those interested: Cottonee was 252 HP, 100 Defense, 156 Special Defense EVs, Bold Nature with 2 Speed IVs. 252 Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Eviolite Cottonee: (78.9-95.2%) 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Eviolite Cottonee: (80.9-96.5%) +2 252 SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: (83.6-98.6%) 252 SpA Aerilate Mega Salamence Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: (85.7-102%) And a calc that was mentioned but wasn't put in the video but I think I managed to figure out?: 252 SpA Kyogre-Primal Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: (80.2 - 95.2%)

why are you based

Thank you for bringing some diversity

“This let Cottonee reliably check Xerneas” is probably the funniest sentence I’ve heard in a while

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Idk how I missed that but after reading your comment I died laughing thinking about how ridiculous that is

@@shortswithshilpi Just conceptually, a God being checked by a ball of cotton is funny.

Who would win? Legendary deer that can share eternal life OR tiny ball of cotton

???

I swear if I see Frosmoth win worlds, I'll eat my shirt.

I’ll hold you on that

@@THE_VOLD Look, I know that it isn't the strongest, but it is my 2nd favorite so I want to see at least 1 team Bring it to worlds

(melts shirt in acid, then mixes an alkali of the same strength to make it water, then freezing it back to a solid (Ice) so that I can eat it.)

Like any true moth would.

It would be a funny idea to pair frosmoth, ting lu and slowking. Mostly because I can imagine the bulk frosmoth would have to quiver dance after a chilly reception+ stab blizzard. Ting lu would be a nice pairing because frosmoth resists ground so blizzard + earthquake spam might go crazy. Also ice scales + ting lus ruin ability making it a special tank.

I am surprised he didn't talk about cherrim,that thing literally won a junior world championship because of its ability having great synergy with Groudon

Im guessing it wasn’t weak enough as a final evolution and has too “special” of an ability to make the cut for the video when compared to the other 3, because unfortunately Im pretty sure there are a few more really interesting picks that were excluded for the sake of time.

im pretty sure wolfe's even used cherrim in the recent past and knows how good it is in sun teams

Probably because Cherrim is an actually good Pokemon. Like not crazy strong or anything but like Smeargle and Shedinja has a really good ability that gives it a slot in specific teams.

@@emburst859 yeah he used a cherrim/groudon team

Cherrim is a shitmon in most scenarios but it's basically created for Doubles + Sun, not that weird in that case

Whoever thought giving eevee it's Z-move with it learning baton pass was an idea that wouldn't be used for cheese is a mad man that I fear

Don't know if you can still call it cheese after it Top 8's 2 regionals and wins a 3rd 🤔

It is Z-move

Probably the same person who made Dondozo

​@@jakevelten yeh eevee was dominating gen 7 ubers meta for a while n early gen 8 meta I remember seeing it and was wondering how they let that slip through the cracks, while BUTTERFREE AND SANDSLASH got massive nerfs n ledian ariados donphan and the plusle minun were TERRIBLE

Persuasion 100 in order to convince everyone else it was a good idea

"They didn't use these Pokemon because they were weak, they used them despite that" That's oddly an inspiring quote

Soul crushing as a Magikarp wipes your team.

@@BLOODKINGbro Wrong, actually. Magikarp doesn't fit into this category, since there isn't a single niche where you'd use it when better options are available.

@LitPinata  What? Did you not read the title mate. Literally "How these weak pokemon beat everyone" and you think Magikarp that is the weakest Pokémon of the series and the game. With the in-game move set where Magikarp only has one move – Splash – that has literally no effect on its opponents. Yet it can be set up to sweep a team. Does not fit the criteria? How are you rationalizing to the contrary?

@@BLOODKINGbro …If you paid more attention to the video, you'd know that these Pokémon are being used because they can do something nothing else could. *Nobody in their right mind would use Magikarp over Barraskewda, in any situation.* Also, Magikarp gets Tackle, Flail, and Hydro Pump too. Though, those don't help its case, since others do those jobs better.

btw its not despite its In Spite

Wait cottonee is kinda hype though, I could definitely see a situation when it comes back in the dlc where it might be more prefarable than whimsicott.

The issue with Cottonee is that it doesn't have Tailwind as of gen 8. If it gets it back it'll be worth looking into, but boosting teams have already had some counters worked around due to Dondozo, meaning you don't have as much support power through stuff like safeguard swagger like you used to.

@@rainbowturtle Considering how Tailwind is a TM in Gen 9 and the fact cottonee itself could learn tailwind itself in a previous generation, it makes sense for Cottonee to relearn Tailwind once re-introduced back in Gen 9, unless they pull a BDSP and prevent Pokémon from learning Toxic like Heatran

@Browser Junior  that's an assumption that we can't really make, especially since the leaks (at least ones I have seen) haven't had anything on DLC mons so we don't know their new/returning moves. We do know stuff that can be transfered through home when it opens 5/29 though, and cottonee/whims are not on that list (although they are in the dlc)

@@rainbowturtle Fair but I mean Tailwind was a move tutor move for Cottonee specifically in Gen 5 so it’s very likely it is legal and can be learned through tm. Whimsicott learned it naturally at 28/1 and Cottonee only learned it when it was a tutor move. Considering it now is a TM it’s likely they won’t change it

Darkrai: You took everything from me Smeargle: I don't even know who you are

Actually smeargle does know who darkrai is as it sketched the move from darkrai

LMFAO

@@jamesgiles4517 🤓

@@sainmitty I get the joke

Not necessary, it could sketch it from another smeargle

I think I like the idea of weak Pokemon be in the right place at the right time better than Karen's quote. While latter is as inspiring as it is blindly optimistic, the former shows that weaker Pokemon can have potential when needing to fill in a niche only they can provide.

Strangely enough, even strong Pokémon with downsides can fit this as well. Take Weavile in Gen 8 Ubers. It might have had 100 less base points than most Ubers and was utterly frail, but Dark/Ice STAB at its height meant no popular Pokémon withstood both its STABs and there was no held item gimmick save Zamazenta-Crowned and it outspeeds most legendaries.

I feel like Karen's quote can relate that thereby proving any pokemon isn't entirely weak & useless

I once brought a Nosepass to a local back in 2017. I won 2 sets and never returned to competitive since.

Not really strange how Haunter and Gastly kept levitate. They actually float, Gengar just waddles over to you in order to steal your soul or whatnot

It is strange that gastly and haunter both levitate and then seemingly devolve with Gengar and return to the ground

gengar floats all the time lol

They should not have removed it, just added cursed body as second ability :(

1:51 Funny thing is despite Shedinja having the best ability ever Wonder Guard is only the second best ability for Shedinja right behind sturdy

I'm glad that Wolfey shared different stories apart from the famous Pachirisu. Just shows how cool competitive Pokémon can really be. Also Jamie Boyt is one of the most creative team builders ever

is*! he top cut his last regional with physical howl scream tail holding a power band! Lol

Was?!?!

@@JamieBoytVGC changed it

9:22 minor nitpick but this portrays Eviolite as buffing the base stats, when it boosts the actual stats. Still, great video!

I was going to say, 5 extra base Defense does not seem like a significant defense boost, but I forgot that Eviolite boosts the whole stat.

Yeah it is a big difference. Cottonee at level 100 can have a max defense stat of 240, which goes to 360 with an eviolite. Iron Hands with base 108 defense stat caps out at 346.

Wolfey knows this for sure, it just wouldn't make sense to depict it visually in the way you're describing. People would just get confused

​@@TrevorSquiresespecially since all sorts of things can affect the stats at the end, so it's just simpler to depict base stats as most people tend to do

@@homerman76 Still it would have been cool if he used the equivalent base stats. Which assuming the Cottonee has EVs as: 248HP, 124Def and 136 SDef; It is scimilar to 106 base stat on both defenses.

I think a better way of viewing this is that sometimes the best pokemon isn't what you expect, not that you dont need to use the best pokemon to win. These examples were all the best choices for exactly what they needed to be

I want more of Wolfe mispronouncing pokemon names

I miss the days on Wenusur, smergal, amongus and all the others

He mispronounced text in the title this time

@@fezthedracky8468 "Dekkidooey"

While Eevee I remember fondly, hearing Haunter and Cottonee too was certainly interesting in how they got used. Power helps, but isn't everything, and it's always cool to see technically weaker Pokémon be used and vital for the team win.

Haunter has proved itself in singles, too. In gen 9, all 3 members of that line have been stupid good in the tiers where they exist

imagine how powerful these pokémon would be if they had the world champ difference

The one thing I’ve learned from your videos is that competitive Pokémon is not about having the strongest ‘mon. It’s about having a team that does the things you want when you want them. I like to remind myself of that sometimes. I don’t have to be the best at everything for everyone. I just have to find the people that need something I can provide and give it to them. This concludes our life lessons with Pokémon segment.

Lol I remember how much Jamie jokingly threatened at bringing Cottonee at the time, and then did it and won. Such a hilariously amazing moment. Gen 6 really was a gen full of super memorable VGC instances

Boyt also had a pretty epic run with Cosmog in a MSS at one of the European Regionals. He even used it in a top cut set to trick the opponent into thinking it had Trick Room (it doesn't learn that) and having them target it while Boyt's other mon set up.

on the thing about gastly and haunter keeping levitate: if i had to take a guess, the reason that it has it is pretty much the same reason that rotom has it, its a useful ability and their sprites arent grounded, but because gengar is grounded gamefreak realized that levitate didnt make sense anymore

I’ve been binging your videos and they’ve been a joy to watch and has convinced me to try out S/V and get back into VGC. The learning curve seemed too steep to get into Sw/Sh onwards but it’s great to see such deep analysis of the new mechanics. Thank you Wolfey!

Ah yes the “WORSR” Pokémon.

LMAO (he changed it) Why still here?

​@@PCG06 just to suffer?

@@Yam-Stufevery night and every day

You're the absolute worsr.

To be fair r is right next to t on a keyboard

The safeguard swagger combo is pretty cool, never thought of that lol

I remember one time seeing some madman who not only used Haunter, but Skitty and Delcatty to great effect by skill swapping Normalize onto his opponents so they couldn’t hit his ghost types..

Thank you for informing us about the WORSR pokemon used in competitive!

My favorite is still quagsire, the fact that in multiple generations, he checked the legendary powerhouses with the kind of stats he has is inspiring.

thats because Unaware is extremely powerful and Quagsire has the right typing to tank basically anything besides grass moves.

I wish that he had talked about the groudon cherrim team that won

Cherrim is fairly decent in VGC actually. Not amazing of course but not enough of an off-pick to be in the vid. Also it's fully evolved so maybe that had something to do with jt

The way I see it, Kyogre is surrounded. What's below the ocean? That's right - more ground.

Wow this Lee is literally dog

Holy hell

​@@elsleazo9592 new response just drop

Actual response

I've always wondered whats the WORSR pokemon to win a tournament

Same

What about the joke? I’m sorry, but I have no idea😂

⁠@@SussyShaymin it was worsr in the title before he changed it.

@@doggo4078 ic thx!

Congrats on 1mil Wolfe! So well deserved!

I think something similar is happening with Tinkaton in Scarlet/Violet, too. Even though its stats aren't the greatest, I've seen RTGame (and maybe others) use a support-focused Tinkaton.

I like how Wolfe's response to markus's gengar levitate strat, is exactly akin to the fanbase at the time.

I appreciate bringing up other less known "weaker" pokemon wins and not just bringing up the cool but well known pachirisu.

I think the overwhelming nature of pokemon can be discouraging for getting into it, but the limited meta makes it easier to generally play with agency. From there, that great expanse of other niche counter options becomes one of the most exciting parts, also just the ability to get the most out of personal favorites. I'd overal prefer an unrealistically great balance, but at the same time, it might actually become super messy when it comes to rock/paper/scissors and generally playing with agency, and it'd make it less special when a strong niche pops up as a wildcard. If it wasn't so limited on average, weaker ones also couldn't deliberately counter as reliably, that's that messy r/p/s agency.

As someone that loves Haunter and hates Gengar. It’s cool to see it has won a tourney.

Its not very strange that haunter and ghastly kept levitate when they are both floaty boys and gengar got little feet

I dont know why but seeing infernape being used made me happy, not even the 3 pokemon being talked about

It's not about using the strongest, it's about knowing how to use any of them

Genuine question... Is it possible go win a tournament with Shedinja as the Ace pokemon?

Cottonee is an absolute killer in the low combat point Pokemon go battles.

Maybe i am wrong but the defense and sp-defense from shedinja are not entirely useless, because they are needed for damaga calculations when it has a substitute up. It can get one with baton pass or shed tail. I doubt the substitute will live more than one hit though.

Moral of the story: if the evolution is nerfed or doesn’t seem to fit, use the precursor

God i love Haunter. It honestly has a great movepool and decent typing, and with eviolite its stats are almost acceptable. Plus, it looks way cooler than Gengar and I'll die on that hill

Has anyone else ever wondered how good or bad an offensive or speed variation of eviolite would be competitive? Haunter is a good example for this as the defensive boost is practically useless.

Has FEAR ever been used successfully in VGC, or is it too unreliable when it can be double-targeted?

It’d be great to see a video in the same format but with items

I love watching wolfey all he's videos giving me some tips and also he explained me so gud as well❤

Love the shoutout to Boyt!! What a creative teambuilder!

:)

The fact that all this events happened before incineroar getting intimidate says a lot

this video has made me want to go through every single pokemon and look at their move pools and stats to find an underrated, broken pokemon. Then, if it's in scarlet and violet, I'll dominate tourneys with it. If not, wait till the newest pokemon game comes and hope it's in that. (I'm not gonna do them all but definitely gonna do some)

Competitive players being beaten by off meta shenanigans soothes my soul.

I think everyone loves that one semi-bad or just straight up bad Pokemon that they use sometimes. For me that's either Pikachu or Froslass. Years of playing through games with Ash or Red-inspired teams got me really good at utilizing Light Ball Pikachu as a hyper-aggressive Special Attacker spamming Thunders, Thunderbolts, in the past unique Hidden Powers. I've also used a Focus Sash utility build with Volt Tackle, Fake Out, Knock Off, or Nuzzle. If it can't get outsped after proccing the sash I just suicide bomb for damage with Volt Tackle or remove a valuable held item with Knock Off. I loved pairing an aggressive Thunder spam Pikachu with Primal Kyogre or Politoad in ORAS. Froslass was another one that performed surprisingly well back in ORAS since it threatened Mega-Rayquaza with strong STAB Ice Beams and because of it's speed I could pickup free KOs with Destiny Bond as soon as Froslass had it's sash procced. As you can see I basically abuse the Focus Sash to make bad Pokemon work semi-well.

This is what I love about Pokemon. I always try to have one weird Poke on my team.

I was running Sneasel in swsh because it got inner focus while Weavile lost it, had good support moves in fake out and icy wind and still could one shot a dynamax Landorus-T with triple axel.

Loved this video! I learned about some VGC history

The fact that he put Megalovania while talking about Shedinja is kinda cool

I wish it synced it up better but I liked After Burner Climax playing when Espeon came up for a bit

I didn’t even notice till I saw this comment. Nice catch!

i think that the choice specs psyduck would be a great addition to this video despite not having any benefits over golduck

Shedinja, 1 ATK 1 DEF, the easiest enemy, only has one hp. (I love how megalovania started playing when Wolfey mentioned it)

the eviolite boost is actually larger than the one shown at 9:20 - eviolite grants a boost to the raw stat, not the base stat, which converts to an actually larger base bulk than if the base stats were multiplied as an example, azumarill has a base stat of 50 - a max of 218 at level 100 or 112 at level 50. if huge power doubled the base stat, that would make a base stat of 100 - max of 328 at level 100 or 167 at level 50. but since it doubles the raw stat, that's a maximum 436 at level 100 or 224 at level 50, roughly 149 base attack, almost tripling the base stat as for cottonee itself, its base bulk with eviolite would go from base 60 def 50 spdef to base 100 def 86 spdef

thanks for explaining. i was scratching my brain why that tiny boost mattered, especially since cotonee had 20 less base HP

5:53 Strangely? I mean, Gengar is posed as if it stands/walks & is shown on the ground in-games, unlike the anime, where it floats, but Gastly & Haunter float & are lighter to an extreme; It doesn't seem that strange to me why they kept Levitate.

Oh the Extreme Evoboost. I cannot be more familiar with that. I build an entire team for this and it is insane in both Singles and Doubles.

Yeah I knew Eevee was powerful with it's Z-move but winning with it in a tournament is awesome & gives bragging rights even if no one wants to hear it.

0:46 I love how they are acting like Regileki’s movepool is in any way good

Here before Wolfey changes the title: "What is the WORSR Pokémon to win a tournament?"

I took a screenshot of it lol

watching wolfey's videos always makes me wanna go and relook at my teams and play competitive again even when im doing smth else skjdfkjs

I vaguely recall Emolga being notable in doubles a long time ago...

I’m really mad at the Pokémon company for doing the bare minimum for a decade straight, but I still always watch your videos. Great job Wolfey!

9:20 that's not how Eviolite works. It's really dependent on the set, but I think even uninvested it's a little more than 90/75.

Yeah, it works off actual stats, not base stats. You need to consider EVs and IVs, nature, and even just the five extra points every stat starts with at level 1. Cottonee's defenses were much higher than what was shown in the video

Did a few calcs. At lv 50, Eviolite Cottonee would have effective base defenses of 100/85 with no investment, and 116/101 assuming max investment.

wolfey has been churning out banger after banger VGC history videos. i think he found his "thing" in YT. something that no one else is more qualified to make videos about.

I have been rewatching so much of your content, this feels nice

Loving the videos lately and its pretty crazy comparing the editing and audio quality to awhile ago. Felt like just yesterday you were checking occasionally if your face was frozen on the screen.

lbr. its not stats, movepool, typing, or anything of that nature that decides what pokemon fits in your team. its niche while the other factors do play a role, as they help decide a niche, ultimately, if it fills a niche, it can be viable. see Pachirisu and Haunter for examples :) its also how Quagsire (my favorite pokemon of all time) got into Ubers.

I always forget that Gengar doesn't have levitate they should make it it's hidden ability

Pretty rich having Zacian in the thumbnail. I was comparing its stats to Miraidon and Koraidon just to see where they would fit into a potential meta and yea…. Zacian is a monster

Pokemon with the ability scratch are easily the most OP because it can get wonder guard and have more than 1 HP

Haunter and eevee are not weak If we consider the special Z move. But cottonee was awesome. But Nothing beats Pachirisu 😮 to be the most awesome tournament Pokemon that shocked everyone.

Has anyone ever tried smeargle geomancy + baton pass while protecting with a clefairy?

"we didn't mega because we wanted to keep levitate n case he wants to go for earthquake" "WE D- *W E D O N ' T H A V E L E V I T A T E A N Y M O R E M A R C U S-"* this made my entire day

We really glossed over that Tony Nguyen had a Vanilluxe. Its stats are underwhelming and it's coverage is pretty terrible too. What was its role on the team?

I’d give an honorable shoutout to wigglytuff. Competitive choice specs hyper beam was an actual set that won regionals.

I can't be the only one expecting Pachirisu to appear

That evoboost animation was incredible

Surprised you didn't mention the FEAR. A humble rattatta that would take down any sweeper. Equip Focus Sash, Endeavor, Quick Attack or other priority move. You see the combo here. Take a hit, go down to 1 HP thanks to Focus Sash, Endeavor to bring enemy's HP to 1, Quick Attack for the kill. Granted, there's a number of counters now, so it isn't as busted as it used to be, but it should still be noted that there was a period of time when people FEARed the Rattata.

In competitive I just don’t see bad or good Pokémon, it makes more sense to say who is more useful. Tauros is stronger than Smeargle but less useful.

that Cottonee set is downright brilliant

Glad to see aussie players see recognition

Special mention to the legendary Pachirisu who won the Pokemon World Championships

Yo, I never knew of that Cottonee set. Props to him because honestly, that pops off!

Goes to show everything has potential to be a team player

"A few players belieeveed in eevee" I see what you did there

Don't focus on becoming the all-around top tier worker, focus on becoming the right man for the job.

Imagine hitting Shedinja with Sheer Cold 💀

Man, I knew that galarian slowking will become my signature pokemon, listen to the most hilarious strategy in history wich I called - Red Card for Bad jokes 😂 Well, we start off with the mvp himself, galarian slowking. Item: Red card, most important move : chilly reception. "So what does chilly reception do?" A good question indeed my friends. Chilly reception switches Out the User with a Pokemon of CHOICE and ALSO gets out a snowscape. So slowking is SLOW what a suprise, but it's also bulky. When it Takes a Hit your opponent is forced to switch Out RANDOMLY and now you gain 100% Switch Advantage WITHOUT takink real damage because slowking has a Hidden ability that heals itself by 1 third of it's max HP. You can take even Further Advantage, because If you pair slowking with a fast enteyhazard mon, the passive damage is real. Your opponent loses hp while you recover them, plus you also can make use Out of the free snowscapy from chilly reception, baxcalibur would be an example. I love slowking😂

Amazing video, as always!

I kinda wish Eevee had a “big chonk” normal type evolution

Jamie Boyt became master chef with that Cottonee set damn

:)

Quick reminder that Cherrim has more VGC wins than Charizard: Cherrim won once in the Junior Division.

amazing vid as always wolfe! :)