The Three Problems with Writing Prequels l Crimes of Grindelwald and Star Wars

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Hello Future Me
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Lorigulf Noldor
Lorigulf Noldor

I wonder if you ever read "Brothers Karamazov" by Fyodor Dostoyevsky. It is a story that is written as if it WAS a prequel, because it was meant to be a introducing book to the main story in a book series, although series was never made. Because of this, it is stated in the first chapter how exactly the story will end and where will characters be, because the book IS a kind of "how we got here". Still, it is quite engaging and interesting to read, because you can never guess exactly WHY will the story end in the way that it is stated it will end (and it indeed WILL end in that way); it is built quite like a character-driven mystery novel, with detailed characters with their different agendas and views introduced and described casually now and then - and in the Grand Finale of the story, suddenly all of the pieces click together into the complete picture where we start to see, that, those people being who they are (with those motivations they have and this information they have), and the things being the way they are, too, there was no other possible ending for this all. It worked quite well and your video makes me wonder if it was indeed possible to make Star Wars prequel in such a way: like, you all know that Anakin will become Vader, but you never ever realize WHY exactly will it happen, yet when it does happen, it's retrospectively very logical and predictable, not in the slightest way being like "Deus Ex Machina" stuff.

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Alyssa Menezes
Alyssa Menezes

I'm really surprised Avatar isn't in this.

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Headless Hunter
Headless Hunter

I wonder if the same argument can be made for sequels in the same vein as legend if khorra where lots if stuff happened that explained stuff that fucked up some really good ambiguous worldbuilding and storytelling of the last airbender.

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Royal Kitty cat
Royal Kitty cat

One of the only good prequels is xmen first class.

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E TAB
E TAB

The low ground is a advantage in a sword fight steeper angle more advantage

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Joshua
Joshua

I think Reach was a good prequel to the Halo Trilogy.

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Kenny Strydom
Kenny Strydom

'1973' star warss movie👀

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Logical Dude
Logical Dude

I think the problem with writing prequels is that the story isn't able to "write itself", which all great stories do to an extent. The storyline and outcome are both forced and it eventually turns into simply showing "how things got to be the way they are" later. You can't go into prequels with the normal and organic way of storytelling, it just can't work that way. The future is already set so things have to be made to happen in a way that might not normally happen if you were writing stand-alone stories. In Star Wars, for example, we already know a ton of things that have to be made to happen and rammed into the plot regardless of everything else going on. For example here are a few: 1. Anakin has to turn to the dark side 2. Anakin has to be beaten by Obi-Wan on a lava planet and gravely injured (and Obi-Wan has to get his lightsaber) 3. Senator Palpatine has to rise up to become Emperor somehow 4. Anakin has to get married (or be in a relationship) and have twins that he doesn't know about (this is very tricky to pull off) 5. Obi-Wan and Yoda have to be stranded on separate planets for some reason 6. It has to be explained why Leia grows up to be a princess and Luke is just a farm boy 7. There has to be something called "The Clone Wars" (NO ONE had ANY idea what this meant at all, or what it even could mean) 8. The Jedi have to be wiped out somehow and almost erased from galactic memory within a generation 9. We have to find out how "Darth Vader helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights"... What does that look like? 10. We have to find out how the Emperor became disfigured and decrepit There are SO many plot points that HAVE to be forced into the prequel narratives that might not normally present themselves in an organic, flowing, story-crafting experience. And those are just a few of the major ones.

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Hello Central
Hello Central

27:14 This is false. For evidence, watch Trope Talks: Tragedies, where you will learn that most of the legendary tragedies had their ending revealed at the very start of the story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL4ti1EGNiw

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diosvision
diosvision

The only precuel that its Amazing is saint seiya lost canvas....... How this work then?

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Springyq The Alloy
Springyq The Alloy

Don’t touch my beautiful Star Wars prequels; that is, except for Attack Of The Clones, that movie is crap and you or anyone else could shit on it. But be careful with the other two!

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Dionna Gainer
Dionna Gainer

I will DEFEND Star Wars the Clone Wars!

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hermes aquila
hermes aquila

I never found the "knowing how the story ends removes tension" argument compelling. Many people like to read history books, and we all know how history turned out, it's our world. Sometimes the 'how' is more interesting than the 'what'.

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Wœtrœ
Wœtrœ

3:48 And my favourite, the badly nosehair trimmer

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Angelina Cave
Angelina Cave

I was not prepared for that intro... but I'm here for it

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Nicole Adesioye
Nicole Adesioye

Yeah, okay, but why is this video a cinematic masterpiece?

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Dawid23 mapper
Dawid23 mapper

I think we can all agree on what the best prequel ever written is... Red dead redemption 2

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Gareth Keenan
Gareth Keenan

I think it's because prequels have so many limitations. It's hard enough to come up with a good story under normal circumstances, but being a prequel makes it exponentially hard. In a prequel you must not break canon. Your ending must fit like a glove with the beginning of the original film. If you say spock had a sister, the logical question is why has never anyone mentioned her? If you say the federation had a galactic war, why has captain picard never talked about it? It always feels tacked on.

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Good enough, right?
Good enough, right?

I think Red Dead 2 is a good reception to this

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Owen Greig
Owen Greig

I'm writing a book, and I'm writing a "Silmarillion-esque" prequel simultaneously so that I have a set idea for how the prequel will play out in relation to the more "present-time" (for the characters, that is) story.

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Ana Virgínia Souza
Ana Virgínia Souza

Rogue One is a good prequel (the only one I can think of)

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Jeffrey Klein
Jeffrey Klein

Feels like you’ve found a happy medium of your live-action on-screen presence in newer videos. Animated you talking to us wasn’t as great as live-action you talking to us. But you pretending to be Anakin and Padme was slightly cringe. I only say this because I love your channel and I have a small internet crush on you and your brain.

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hugo13231
hugo13231

The star wars prequels were excellent...

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Aiden Culbert
Aiden Culbert

not really, good but far from perfect

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DragonFae16
DragonFae16

I think the best way to make a prequel is to make it clear it's set in the same world as the original and maybe even have younger versions of some known characters make brief cameos, but mostly just write a self-contained story.

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Derek
Derek

Fate/zero is a great prequel

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Vallon Skyles
Vallon Skyles

Just for your professional enrichment, respectfully, I never want to see or hear from Casper Stuffypants EVER again. I'm a huge fan of this channel. Not of Stuffypants 🤢🤮

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Eric Gabriel Bautista Jaimes
Eric Gabriel Bautista Jaimes

What a bout clone wars (TV serie) as a prequel?

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hian
hian

I've always found the critique that prequels/sequels/spinoffs have no narrative tension because we know the outcomes to be totally moot. 99% of stories are predictable in the exact same moot sense. Protagonist wins, antagonist loses (unless we're watching a tragedy in which the opposite, equally predictable outcome is true) is the format of near every story. 5 minutes into a movie, or 20 pages into a book, anyone with a modicum of media literacy should be able to reason themselves to the rough idea of how the work will end. Narrative tension isn't a product of being entirely ignorant of how a story will play out in the end, but of how it gets there. The praise/criticism should be centered on the craftsmanship of setups and payoffs, not reductionist, and frankly speaking, childish value judgements of the payoffs themselves for not being unpredictable. I agree that prequels suffer from the problem of failing to integrate well with its source material relative to the imaginings of the audience, but anyone who would criticize such works for being predictable should surely just have an issue with storytelling as a whole. Or maybe they're just 5 years old and haven't been exposed to enough art to realize how derivative and predictable storytelling is on the whole? =P

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Mavrickindigo
Mavrickindigo

Clone wars is a great prequel series

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Mr Scrofulous
Mr Scrofulous

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh, Prometheus is the worst prequel EVAR !!!!!

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big clover
big clover

0:54 3:48 4:00

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Tetyana Love
Tetyana Love

"Rouge one" is a good prequel !

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ValasaFantastic
ValasaFantastic

Homelands trilogy by R.A Salvator. Amazing prequels. Read them before the 'originals' it all stands alone perfectly yet smoothly flows into the next book which was actually written first. I can also think of TONS Prequels made by Mercedes Lackey that are just as good as the originals. Such as Take a thief. She answers questions but it actually is satisfying and filled in in a natural way. ALL of them also can stand on their own even if you never read the original. She does LOTS of prequels they are all great. MOST of her Valdemar novels are actually technically prequels ... And they are Fantastic! I think the issue is mainly in movies. Mostly Movies.... I can think of more prequel novels that are as good or better than the original. And a few TV shows (are good despite being prequels) But no movies. None I can think of really. At least right now. Unless the movie is based on a book, then it seems fine as long as they follow the source material. Mandalorian is technically a prequel to the new force awakens era and the Mandalorian is FANTASTIC! But TV series have more time.

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Rich Gold
Rich Gold

Technically it's not a pure prequel, but The Godfather 2 has a major component of prequels, and certainly holds up.

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rosestar1324
rosestar1324

The Lion King 1.5 was pretty good. It's prob the only prequel I watch just as often as the original.

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Alessandro LaVolpe
Alessandro LaVolpe

There are good prequels. I really liked the prequel series to _Spartacus: Blood and Sand._

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66 Roses
66 Roses

I've only ever seen one prequel work and that was the story of Avatar Wan in The Legend of Korra.

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Tia Zoh
Tia Zoh

The audio when you do the fireside thing is terrible

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Bismuth
Bismuth

My favorite prequel is the DLC for the first Little Nightmares. It manages to make a shocking and tragic event even more heartbreaking.

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Rowhith Ravi
Rowhith Ravi

Lord of the rings suffers from this as well...

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Daniel McLaughlin
Daniel McLaughlin

Godfather II was both a prequel and a sequel and it also won the Best Picture Academy Award. I guess if the plot is good then any prequel will rule.

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Thagomizer
Thagomizer

Death of the Author can go to hell. For what reason do we read literature if authors have no ideas of their own?

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Jonathan Gardner
Jonathan Gardner

Ambiguity is overrated. Also, I hate text or reader-centric interpretive models. They can be punted to the moon. Author-centric all day.

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Andrew Melnikov
Andrew Melnikov

24:20 An excellent idea, thanks! I myself often spend too much attention on "but we all know how it ends!" instead of exploring different, often unexpected and unknown perspectives. We can never know it all anyway. But the temptation to rain down references for the sake of pure fan service is often too tempting and easy to consider other paths.

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Andrew Melnikov
Andrew Melnikov

11:00 "Magic is not about knowing. It's about wondering - who and how and where."

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DECrissman
DECrissman

Really liked this. Kept thinking of "Apollo 13" a film where we know as a historical fact that the crew survived but the tension even on repeat viewings is maintained, because the characters don't know that they will survive.

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Andrew Tomlinson
Andrew Tomlinson

Prequels don't work because ultimately, whatever you do with them and however long they last, the ultimate "ending" is the start of something you've already read/watched. Especially if the heroes of the prequel are just young versions of the characters we know will survive. We know that however often they are stalled, they will ultimately get to exactly where we already knew they would. There is little tension in knowing where even a monstrously overblown CGI 45 minute shit fest lightsabre duel will end before it starts. I know the Star Wars prequels weren't exactly aimed at "thinkers" but even the dumbest shiny lightsabre fan figured that the guy who wasn't horribly burned and put in a Halloween life support suit in the original movie is probably the guy who wins the fight in the lava cave? And I'm not sure there ever was any sense of ambiguity in the Han Shot first bollocks. Certainly not with anyone I knew in 1977. I must have watched that movie a hundred times before the dumbass "Special Editions" came along and no one is ever going to convince me that Greedo even shot! One pulse sound, one flash, one explosion one dead guy... Screw, "Han shot first!" he just SHOT. Edited to add: Prequels CAN work, in very specific situation like when used in a short "Bottle" episode in a TV show or comic book series, where a specific, previously unexplored, character has their backstory explained. (I'm literally just about to watch "Here's Negan" on TWD, when it drops in the UK, and I'm hoping like HELL it's a good one! But a Jeffrey Dean Morgan stand alone episode can't suck... can it?)

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Garrett Dalley
Garrett Dalley

The thing about prequels is that they're always unnecessary. If they were necessary the original story would have just begun with them. The only possible exception to this that I've found is the Star Wars prequels (which is because George Lucas fully intended to make while he was making the OT, and didn't decide later to flesh out the story) but even with them you don't NEED to watch them to understand the story of Ep. 4 - 6. In fact many people suggest holding off on watching 2 and 3 until after watching episode 5, in order to preserve the Vader revelation. They also recommend holding off on watching 1 indefinitely.

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Rebecca GeekyGirl
Rebecca GeekyGirl

I would not say they fail. Although not as good as the originals, I'd take star wars prequels anytime before the those-which-must-not-be-named sequels. Rogue One is also a prequel and I love the movie

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Craig A. Glesner
Craig A. Glesner

I actually like the STAR WARS prequels but then I really don’t give two shits about Vader’s fall but am into the history and fall of the Republic so I got what I wanted out of them, mostly.

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Joakim Mogren
Joakim Mogren

I know I’m 2 years late but in video games Metal Gear Solid and Devil May Cry 3 are considered to not only good prequels but amongst the best games in their respective series. Same goes for certain Zelda games and Final Fantasy Crisis Core.

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Lucess
Lucess

this video is about movies not games sooo...

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Sean Krkovich
Sean Krkovich

Fate Zero was an amazing prequel. Revived the franchise. I think prequels work better when they have more time. In the case of Fate zero, the knowledge that no one's dreams will come true, makes it better.

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karhart
karhart

Prequels and sequels often have the same base problem. They are being made due to popularity of the branding and franchise. Sooooo the worst case: whatever made the original popular is going to be brought in and referenced ad nauseum. Major studios are not known for subtle nods. Let's use an inside joke and beat it until it has zero humor left.

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Bethany Howell
Bethany Howell

that INTRO KILLED ME

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Naomi King
Naomi King

The rat tail 😂

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Blixer
Blixer

Red Dead Redemption 2 is the best prequel I can think of. But it’s a video game not a movie.

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Nana Love
Nana Love

You know, I think that Fantastic Beasts could have been an awesome prequel... If it was made into a serie instead of movies (and forget the fan service). One of the big problems, in particular in the second movie, is that they try to focus on too much storylines, so they were all treated surperficially. Plus, it makes some of them come a bit out of nowhere, so we fail to care. For instance, that big reveal with the Lestranges at the end. How could I care when I'm struggling to remember who that guy was, or when I didn't realize I should care about Leta's boggart? It was barely there but it still a big climax somehow. It would have worked so much better in a TV show, when they have time to focus on multiple mysteries like that? This and how they manage to make fan service while ignoring the Dumbledore/Grindelwald relationship everybody expected.

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Kyle Stewart
Kyle Stewart

I stopped at Prometheus was good yikes

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Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

I have mixed feelings about 'death of the author'.

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Marco Antonio
Marco Antonio

hated that british fella

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just a guy with a fedora
just a guy with a fedora

I think the prequel was did it right is fate zero

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Excalibur Turkey
Excalibur Turkey

27:17 this has to do with the video below and tension https://youtu.be/afuwh0GXwbQ

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Excalibur Turkey
Excalibur Turkey

Mate why do you look like a greaser at the start of the author died and we killed him

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Jordi Hamilton
Jordi Hamilton

"My english friend." ... Wait... Are you not english? I need a prequel Hello Future Me origin story to answer this question. Perhaps: "Hello Past Me."

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Jared Reynolds
Jared Reynolds

This guy wants to be contrapoints SO BAD

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Tarjei Mossige Aasen
Tarjei Mossige Aasen

In my headcanon Vader isn't Luke's father. Clearly that wasn't the intent in the first film and it makes no sense to let his son grow up with relatives.

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Tarjei Mossige Aasen
Tarjei Mossige Aasen

But it was a joke, yeah.

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Tarjei Mossige Aasen
Tarjei Mossige Aasen

@Lucess Making Vader Luke's dad was something Lucas came up with in between making the first and second film. It is a great twist in one sense, but it makes having Luke grow up with his aunt and uncle using his family name absolutely daft. It was also the start of the whole "everyone's related to everyone else" trend that I find really annoying.

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Lucess
Lucess

what? am i missing a joke here?

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Sam Wortham
Sam Wortham

16:22 "Harder Ani" That made me laugh (top left corner).

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Antonio Soto
Antonio Soto

I wrote my prequel story and I think it’s amazing and badass because I did put an older woman telling my main character from the main story trust me if you were with me in my prime you wouldn’t surived walking down the path. And it shows how powerful the people were back then before the Great War started until it end

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Dennis Williams
Dennis Williams

Not to take anything away from the stunning analysis, but in the Han/Greedo example there is no interpretation of it. In the original version of the scene, not only does Han shoot first but he is the only one to shoot at all, which was a play on Western tropes of "shoot rather than talk" when you can. Later edits of the film have the two shoot more evenly and then Greedo slightly shooting first cause Lucas wanted to steer Han away from casual murderer (Even if Greedo literally came to gun him so...I still don't get it).

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Doomed Wit
Doomed Wit

I never got Han shot first. Even if he did, the fact that Greedo got a shot off means Han was correct in believing Greedo was about to shoot him. That makes it self defense either way... it's not like Han saw Greedo across the bar, and shot him in the back. Or could have walked away from the confrontation. So I never cared. I mean Obi Wan chopped a dudes arm off. He probably was skilled enough to easily defuse the situation.

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Lucess
Lucess

in the original greedo doesn't shot at all han just kills him

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bronzedivision
bronzedivision

"In the Beginning' the Babylon 5 prequel is the only good one I know of, but it was a near thing and benefited from several things. Mainly that Babylon 5 had a huge backstory so they were able to pick and choose the best parts to cut into a prequel movie. The one big downside is that it's missing a few characters due to being made during scheduling issues, and it's spolierific AF. So it's not a practical first chapter, but a nice treat for anyone who already knows the story.

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Kuro myou
Kuro myou

Prometheus wasn't good. It was such a mess. Case in point: Crew using technology to map cave, gets lost in said cave.

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Federico Palacios
Federico Palacios

I'm glad you don't make your videos like this anymore. Skits are really annoying during essays

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unorthodox coffee
unorthodox coffee

it's crazy because i actually like the starwars prequels a lot. i think it adds more to the story and universe of starwars as a whole. yes it's obvious that the writing wasn't good but it gave way to the clone wars series that really helped paint the picture better for why anikin did what he did. i have my own interpretation of the prequels that actually makes me like them a lot.

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Attila the Chilla.
Attila the Chilla.

9:59 who saw it?

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Pancakes
Pancakes

What about a prequel that takes place in its own original settings and features unique characters yet still explains the backstories of a couple mysterious already established characters?

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fullrewrite
fullrewrite

I love love this video. Definitely deserves more views

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Reverend Conquest
Reverend Conquest

Rise of the lycans was amazing

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Kendra Jade
Kendra Jade

The major problem I find with prequels is that if a story is told WELL, or even COMPETENTLY, everything you need to know? You DO. So a prequel is kinda set up to fail immediately. Its importance is being part of this greater narrative, but it's also composed ENTIRELY of details that weren't important enough to make it into the original product. I'll stick with the easy comparison of the Star Wars prequels. By the Return of the Jedi, we know that a) Darth Vader was once Anakin Skywalker, a Jedi. b) He turned to the dark side and became a cyborg. Probably the Emperor was involved. c) Somewhere in the middle, he had some kids. EVERYTHING the Prequels add to that is unimportant details. Nothing else MATTERS. You don't need to know anything other than those three things about Darth Vader for the Throne Room scene to work. And if you DID then the movie would suck and no one would care if it got a prequel.

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Widukind Galadh
Widukind Galadh

The Star Wars are great.

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Ellaina Greenwood
Ellaina Greenwood

I was not expecting chess fanfiction, but now I'm hooked

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mtsanri
mtsanri

Loving it so much 😂

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Rowan Brown
Rowan Brown

"Stilted and awkward references to the original." *Cough* Solo *Cough*

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Rowan Brown
Rowan Brown

Prequels of the world can be awesome, prequels of the characters are a lot trickier

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Pantalonesdemuerto
Pantalonesdemuerto

"Leaving things ambiguous is more impactful than detailing every event" *JRR Tolkien wants to know your location*

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Daniel Lewallen
Daniel Lewallen

I mean, I thought BIONICLE 2004 was fine. That was one of the two prequel years for the sets and story. 2005 was okay too I suppose. Kind of helps when the first three years were filled with mystery and when ‘04 came about, the door of possibilities opened. Plus, best Toa hero sets ever. Gear functions AND multiple joints.

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Joseph Douek
Joseph Douek

Ok, but did you forget that the Clone Wars are AWESOME? The Star Wars prequels were always intended, in many parts, they were just really poorly done. However they gave us Ewan McKenobi, Count Dooku, Darth Maul, Count Grevious, and The Clone Wars!

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Joseph Douek
Joseph Douek

Even if Han did shoot second, i’m pretty sure that in most versions the Sean are close enough together and we see Han’s prior intent That they both were actively prepared to kill each other and made such efforts

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Nerdy Wordy
Nerdy Wordy

In my mind, a prequel should strive to lend weight and deeper meaning to elements that did not capture the reader's attention and grant new dimensions to passing references that were largely disregarded in the works they precede.

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abiandflow
abiandflow

You can call me anything... wel hello flippity floppity the bunny mutant

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Nathaniel McNutt
Nathaniel McNutt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYWAHuFbLoc

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AJ Jordan
AJ Jordan

I agree that prequels tend to not live up to the source materials. Looking for prequels that are good however, Robert Jordan's New Spring is very good.

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Manol Georgiev
Manol Georgiev

Except the Star Wars prequels did not fail. They were egsactly as good as they needed to be!

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Zamir Hussein
Zamir Hussein

That's because you grew up with the prequels. Old starwars hated it for how it failed their expectations

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Eli Herrera
Eli Herrera

Does anyone know a prequel that was superior to the original? There's always an exception to the rule

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Eli Herrera
Eli Herrera

@Fred Duwe ah thavks!

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Fred Duwe
Fred Duwe

For anime, Fate/Zero was superior to the anime adaptations of Fate/stay night. For games, Devil May Cry 3 and Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater are considered to be the best in the series. Even though they have a 3 in the title they take place before the events of their respective first games.

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Samuel Healy
Samuel Healy

So, I'd just like to point out that the logic of clarifying an ambiguous element of a story in a prequel invalidate a readers interpretation while clarifying an ambiguous story element in a sequel builds on reader interpretation is something of a fallacy. They are literally the same thing. If book one says [insert detail here] then book 3 reveals [insert detail here] was false, this is the same thing as book 1 saying [insert detail here] and book -3 reveals [insert detail here] to be false. Anyway, great video!

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Anthony Hauser
Anthony Hauser

Yes and no. The distinction is largely in how the clarification affects the surrounding contexts and narrative drives. And, more specifically, how easily the revelation is able to affect said context/narrative to expand upon or truncate the story and its world. When it comes to a Sequel, the revelation that a detail from a previous story was either wrong or part of an incomplete understanding of events leads to character motivation that is rooted in the events of the Original and expands upon them. An example would be, for all his faults, Amon from "The Legend of Korra". We were introduced to blood-bending as a form of waterbending in "The Last Airbender". We were also introduced to the use of waterbending in medical treatment, including the manipulation of chakara/chi for healing. And we were introduced to the fact that the right contact with pressure-point nodes allows a person to temporarily 'turn off' a person's ability to exert their chi over an element they can bend. As is pointed out, "energy-bending" so as to remove a person's ability to bend was a unique trait that only Avatar Aang (and, per flashback, the Lion-Turtles) had demonstrated. Yet here comes a villain so powerful to have this same ability. And the reveal that this whole time he's just been blood-bending to block the flow of chi...it expands upon the intricacies of the show's world that such innovation not only exists but makes sense. If we instead got a prequel series where a villain decided to do this same thing of blood-bending to block benders' chi, then...I shouldn't need to tell you how that would kind of ruin the original series. Where Aang's off-screen learning of energy-bending was a cop-out but also the type of deus ex machina that is in-line with Aang's character. And also where it would present blood-bending (a super-evil thing) in if not an outright positive light then at least capable of a morally-neutral pragmatic use. The twist with Amon in "Legend of Korra" only works as it does because it expands on knowledge set-up within "The Last Airbender" without diminishing the moral discourse that was at the heart of the original series. If "Korra" were a prequel series instead, the same reveal/twist/etc would have destroyed whatever integrity the franchise had.

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Silly Simic
Silly Simic

Anyone else love how he turns into a cowboy everytime he has to say "Scamander"?

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zidaryn
zidaryn

While nothing special, Robert Jordan told a nice prequel story in New Spring. It does a bunch of things real well (see below (spoilers).) But it also doesn't try to be big and huge. I think one of the problems with prequels is that they try to make a small event much bigger than it really needed to be. - Shows how the world of The White Tower was before all the chaos that the story brought. - Expands, but still leaves mysterious, what we know about the A'iel battle that resulted in Rand's birth. - Shows the beginning of Nyvein and Lan's story/quest. As well as how they met and he became her warder.

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Bernard Corrigan
Bernard Corrigan

I would say Halo : Reach is a great example of a prequel! It builds on the original story but also stands quite well on its own.

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DutchDread
DutchDread

I haven't read Coffrets mythologiques in french, but I have read Lord of the rings in three languages, does that count?

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Joseph Bugeja
Joseph Bugeja

They can't step on the main entries toes by outstaging the main entries & or ever being remotely interesting without unintentially removing the need for the main entry to happen in the first place..

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Agatha Grunt-thruster
Agatha Grunt-thruster

Prequels are made to make money and sell merchandise. A lot of the issues with prequels are there in order to get the right rating for the movie so that kids can watch it. “Can’t have Han shoot first if you want the New Hope re-release to get a PG rating.” That’s why Grindelwald and Dumbledore can’t be gay.

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