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Macus Alexander Liew
Macus Alexander Liew

If I would choose it could be the Crocodiles and Eagles or Crocodile and Human, either of them is viable. Crocodiles will stop the enemies before they arrive on the Island, the Eagles will harrass the rest with their numbers, the rats and other animals cannot swim that long on the water and will most likely die from drowning. It's hard to be an enemy with humans, they can simply take a boat or shoot you from the distance, they're simply very intelligent to avoid attacks from other animals so better be friends with him. With a human, assuming he's skilled enough you can set traps together to defeat the animals if they ever survived the crocodiles and drowning.

Vor Monat
Matthew Swiderski
Matthew Swiderski

I'm fairly certain that guy has a shotgun, not a rifle. Shorter range, but many more options. Birdshot grants the ability to deal with swarms and flying attacks very easily, while slugs and buckshot maintain most of the edge a rifle has over bears, bulls, and gorillas.

Vor Monat
Ong Yuji
Ong Yuji

Lol humans will invent atom bomb to kill all ur armys

Vor Monat
Eredin Bréacc Glas
Eredin Bréacc Glas

The human has to be picked because of his high intelligence you just let the other teammates handle the eagles until the most of them are dead or injured then you come out of your hiding and boom clean headshot

Vor 2 Monate
Kyriakos Pan
Kyriakos Pan

What if the human had a shotgun? Would he then be on S tier alongside with the rats?

Vor 6 Monate
Evernewb
Evernewb

it's also worth factoring in that you're assuming that the "you" in this siuation is an average unarmed human adult/adolescent which can defend itself to some degree against single members of a few options, you're still screwed against a gorilla or bear in a matter of seconds but you can delay pretty well against a lion or bull and have an outright favorable matchup against crocks (assuming land) wolves eagles and rats until you get swarmed. it doesn't actually change the final picks though: 10000 is just way to large a number for it to not be a hard pick so you're really just trying to decide between the armed human and the other categories...still not the easiest question: armed human is REALLY good at killing you but not all that great for defending, the eagles are a similar problem with a bit less of a gap in the offense/defense applicability. alternately you could take options assuming that you're running away while this is all going on which makes the rats a bit less of a hard pick, you can outdistance anything else on this list in the long run aside from the eagles, buuuut 10000 is still 10000 so getting them all before they get you is gonna be a serious problem even if you get to pick everything else on the list and get a good degree of control over things...

Vor 19 Stunden
shan paulter
shan paulter

Florida Man could kill the crocodiles in a second

Vor Tag
robinhio100
robinhio100

I see alot of people trying to feel good about themself for understanding 10,000 rats is a big number of rats ... But when i looked it up the average rat (brown or black) weighs around 0.2kg which means 10,000 rats only weigh 2,000 kg. While this is a considerably huge amount of rats i don't see how these rats would do lethal damage and not get killed by the hundreds by bears, gorilla's, lions, cows, crocodiles or eagles for that matter. I can see them destroying humans or wolves because of our low defence and hp but somebody has got to explain to me how 200 rats weighing in total 40 kg take out a full grown 270 kg grizzly or a 1100kg cow. To clarify i still think the rats are high tier and the second best choice coming in behind the eagles but not as OP and all destroying as some people make it out to be

Vor 4 Tage
Akmon Ra
Akmon Ra

I was thinking some of the rats could also work as defense, by stacking themselves on top of each other, forming a wall to defend you from the sniper. The sniper could only shoot but so many rats before being killed by the thousands of others coming for him.

Vor 5 Tage
Funny132
Funny132

Personally, I'd pick the human and 10k rats. The 10k rats would swarm the enemy and distract them long enough for the human to shoot down the most dangerous Animals. Oh, the eagles? I'd lie down on the floor and have 1000 of the rats stay near me. That way, if an Eagle swooped at me, the rats would grab on and kill the Eagle. Sorry for bad grammar, I'm on mobile and I'm too lazy to fix all the autocorrects. My matchup vs Eagles: I said this earlier Vs crocodiles: there is at *least* enough rats to have 1000 go for each crocodile. Assuming the other animals are with the crocs, there's still enough rats to wipe them out. Vs bears: A bundle of the rats distract while the human takes them down 1 by 1 Vs the bulls: The rats can swarm them and the human can shoot down the ones that didn't die because of the rat swarms. Vs wolves: Same as bulls, the rats swarm and the human shoots. The wolves are smart enough to know that they *DIE* if they don't take out the rats, and same with the bulls Vs gorilla's or whatever they were: Yeah, guns and rats. The gorilla's get distracted by the rats then shot down by the human. Vs lions: same as gorilla's. Dunno, but my loadout seems pretty solid.

Vor 7 Tage
Dániel Görög
Dániel Görög

The problem with rats, that their alpha damage per strike is quite low. Instead they rely on damge per minute and their great numbers. And while i have no concerns that sooner or later hundreds of determined and cooperating rats could destroy any tank build; I'm not sure that they could stop or destroy an equally determined tank (like a bull or a bear) before the tank reaches the VIP.

Vor 8 Tage
oblomov
oblomov

While it depends a lot on the environment, I feel that a "tank" teammate is necessary to protect you at the start of the match. Suppose you choose the rats and eagles, and suppose further that the animals are initially distributed randomly in a 100 ft x 100 ft square arena, with you in the center. This gives an expected 1 rat per square foot. There's a high probability of at least 1 fast, high-DPS animal like a bear, bull or lion being within 25 feet of you (to derive this, divide the area of a circle with a 25 foot radius by the area of the 100 foot square to get the raw probability of any given animal being within 25 feet, then apply inclusion-exclusion). If such an animal were to immediately move towards you at a full sprint, it would likely be able to kill you before attracting enough rats and eagles to disable or kill it. I would recommend choosing the eagles and the bulls (historical evidence from bear-baiting and Roman circuses suggests that of the available choices, only a bear or human could beat a bull in a one-on-one fight, and since their main purpose is to intercept attackers in the first few seconds of the match, their greater numbers make them more reliable than either of those).

Vor 13 Tage
Guitarwizard999
Guitarwizard999

Rats+Human is the correct answer. On a level playing field the armed human would spot VIP immediately, and it's game over. You have to pick the human just so he isn't on the opposing team

Vor 13 Tage
Jake And
Jake And

Really the conditions of the scenario is the biggest question. Because the location is unspecified we are really forced to make an assumption, either you choose the location/terrain or you literally have the world, with the starting location being where you are at the time the question is posed. Also, since it is specified the 2 choices defend you and the rest are attacking, we are forced to assume an absence of any other animals, either friendly or hostile, or even neutral since even neutral players could be used to assist to some degree. Most specifically, obviously, is there are no other humans than the one given as an option, and yourself, if you are playing as a human. The third is attacking/defensive behavior of the players. There are two major thoughts I've seen: First is natural behavior with the end-game being either to attack or protect the primary player. Meaning that while all forces you didn't choose are hostile, and trying to kill you, they would not use coordinated strategies outside their normal. The same would apply to those defending you. They would want to protect you, but they would not magically behave how you want. Second school of thought is some form of magical, or even protracted mundane, training to allow you to control your team. The key to this, obviously is that it should also apply to the opposing team. This raises the human player on the tier list astronomy, meaning it would 100% be absolutely essential to choose the human. Sure, the video suggests the eagles to counter the human, which initially makes sense, however it simply would not work if all the hostile players are under his/her command to the same extent the eagles are under yours. The other possibility is some other, extra dimensional, player controls the opposite team, which has the same end result of having no hard counter to the human player. So with this in mind, my choices would differ from those in the video. The video suggests scenario two, some form of training that would allow the player control, however, unlike the video, I would assume the same would apply to the opposing force. Given this scenario, I would choose the human and either wolves or eagles depending on the geographic scenario. If location/terrain is player choice, I would choose the wolves and put the setting in the Arctic, this would effectively eliminate all the opposing teams forces except the bears and with only 5 of them they would lack the numbers to counter their lower mobility. In the open world scenario I would choose the eagles. None of the opposing force has the overland, long distance, travel capabilities to match humans and eagles. The closest would be the wolves. If there is some extra dimensional force capable of intelligently using it's forces things would be considerably tougher, but essentially I would use superior mobility keeping out of range of the enemies and use the eagles to whittle down the rats. If either the opposing force allows the wolves to outpace the rest of the forces or there is no human like intelligence controlling/coordinating them, two humans and 50 eagles should be able to eliminate them fairly quickly, before the other forces can be brought to bear. Now, if there was just natural behavior, I would go with the wolves and human. Geographic scenario 1, player choice, the same. Geographic scenario 2, open world, essentially the same, but instead of having to contend with the wolves, the eagles would be the biggest initial threat. However, with no coordinated attack, I don't think the threat from them would be unbeatable. Again, there are the 10000 rats. However without some unnatural force coordinating them, well, rats have a pretty poor long distance travel rate, even with some unnatural force making them attack me and not attack allied forces, it is unlikely they would remain one large mass over the course of days, weeks or even months. Even if, for some reason, they do, two humans and fifteen wolves would still be able to whittle them down over a long enough period of time. If there is no supernatural force preventing them from infighting, rats would effectively deal with themselves over an extended period of time.

Vor 14 Tage
Addde
Addde

Even an idiot know that orde minions are the best option always vs no aoe damage, that amount of rats is stupid.

Vor 18 Tage
Epic Terry
Epic Terry

I would pick eagles and rats. They're the smartest, and highest numbers. Crocodiles and bulls are too unfocused and stupid to be reliable.

Vor 19 Tage
Dylan Shramko
Dylan Shramko

I'll take extinction

Vor 19 Tage
Cool Blobfish
Cool Blobfish

This will come in handy.

Vor 20 Tage
Solveig Lindberg
Solveig Lindberg

So this meme gets on my nerves because it’s all dependent on unsaid specifics: -Can the attackers/defenders coordinate like a (eu)social species or only act as they usually would? -What is the biome? -What is the spawning locations? -What is the objective? Is escape allowed? -What is the VIP? etc. If you make some assumptions based on how a typical human main (the one who came up with it is a human main don’t even bother) thinks you’d guess that -VIP is in a savanna biome -VIP is a human player and unarmed -VIP is surrounded on all sides by an even mix of all groups, the enemies spawn ~500 meters away -Both sides can coordinate as efficiently as a well-trained human army could. With these assumptions there is only one viable options, as I see it. Eagle+Rats is the classic combo that gives the best chance of winning if the Eagles get to kill the human before the one-shot ranged attack. Still a really bad chance, but picking any other combo loses instantly due to 10000 rats being an unending tide of cuts and bruises that can just ignore damage or the eagles ignoring everything and killing the VIP or the human looking at the VIP and pulling the trigger until the VIP is hit. So basically you can’t win that scenario. Either the rats are gonna overwhelm you, or the eagles are going to dive you, or the human is going to shoot you.

Vor 20 Tage
05 Council
05 Council

What type of gun tho?

Vor 21 Tag
Mzyxplx
Mzyxplx

I'd choose the eagles purely cuz I couldn't defend against them

Vor 21 Tag
Zachary O'Connor
Zachary O'Connor

I dont think 15 wolves is enough to scare 3 Male lions I've seen 1 Male lion kill a hyena then chase away about 20 of them which are stronger than wolves

Vor 22 Tage
The Winged Hussar
The Winged Hussar

I would go eagles and human since they get op buffs when working together.

Vor 22 Tage
The Winged Hussar
The Winged Hussar

And cuz merica

Vor 22 Tage
Jordan Porter
Jordan Porter

10,000 rats is op plz nerf A more balanced option would be something like 500 rats. Still a huge threat, but after some chunking down by eagles or the aoe strikes of the bears their numbers wouldnt be a danger, but 500 rats would still be a game ending threat to all most any isolated threat. 500 rats would be a counter to any low accuracy team. I do think 50 eagles is also a little op, as there is very little counter play options againsy flying targets, however do to their low damage, they only really serve as a utility team dealing out blinding debuffs. They have enough damage to kill eventually sure especially when swarming a target, but swarming a target and not merely trying to blind it leave you open to counter attacks even to blind enemies which would almost always one shot them But paired with an effective bruiser class like the bear or good DPS mains like lions or humans eagles are broken, removing almost all counter play from the enemies. The weakness of the human is that although he can one shot all opponents he is very susceptible to being rushed down, but if all your opponent's are blind the player is incredibly hard to be rushed down. I think a fair amount of eagles would be 15. As a swarm they would still be able to take down isolated threats but this would result in possibly so many casualties they may not be able to swarm kill again. But also in numbers of 15 their blind attacks wouldnt be oppressive but would still provide useful utility

Vor 22 Tage
Magikarp ?
Magikarp ?

You have to choose the human since you'll get shot if you don't.

Vor 23 Tage
böek
böek

Can you keep the rats?

Vor 23 Tage
The limo Driver
The limo Driver

I haven’t seen this yet but I would take the human and rats

Vor 23 Tage
Chapter Master Avarice
Chapter Master Avarice

My only disagreement in this setup, is that the rats would run from practically anytbing bigger than them. Intimidation abilities like Roar and Posture would send then fleeing. Surrrre, chip damage from a crayon of sources that can stealth yould be great! 1d x1000 would be 1000d. But they gotta actually attack, land the hit, and bypass damage reduction. I'm sorry, but disease damage takes too long to be effective. Wolves and Eagles works great. CC, status effects, pack tactics, etc. But also, we forget the VIP isn't helpless either.

Vor 23 Tage
pterry 32
pterry 32

Tierzoo is trying to Tell us we live in a simulation

Vor 24 Tage
Anthony hadsell
Anthony hadsell

I think the issue with choosing the rats is that based on the picture those rodents are way too small to be rats and are actually mice, and while 200 rats can take a bear a human could have a feasible chance with 200 mice so personally, assuming unlimited ammo id take the eagles and human because the eagles could work to pick off mouse after mouse then harass the others while the human picks off shots although even if they are mice they're still a decent option with their intimidation bonus from being so numerous

Vor 24 Tage
sirmpsticks_
sirmpsticks_

Ya makes sense honestly, just because of how impossible it would be to stop a flood of rats if they wanted to kill you

Vor 25 Tage
yeahyeahyeah yeah
yeahyeahyeah yeah

With a motorcycle helmet and leathers and the fight partners the birds actually free get out of here S tier they are a noob killer.

Vor 25 Tage
yeahyeahyeah yeah
yeahyeahyeah yeah

Rat silver back seems the best build to me as I also hunt and breed hunting dogs for a living. We could easily rek the birds and the only real risk is the hunter but I think I would rather take that risk than fight off 5 silver backs and hope I shoot straight. Plus silverbacks beat all the wolves/lion/bears/bufflao free. There so reflexive if they really couldn't win they are the best tanks and I can shoot the others before they kill my gorrilas. The rats rek the human so that's why I picked them. Your rat hit squad will fuck that dude up before he even gets in shooting range.

Vor 25 Tage
Gustavo hernandez
Gustavo hernandez

I’ll love to see the lions kills the eagles as soon as they get close. I don’t see rats killing eagles or crocs

Vor 26 Tage
Gustavo hernandez
Gustavo hernandez

This is the reason why I think this guy is an idiot 😂 really ? Eagles ?

Vor 26 Tage
Cooper Team mystic
Cooper Team mystic

You’ve heard of an air strike But now with the eagle and rats we have a rat strike Just one payment of 2/3 of Europe today

Vor 26 Tage
Cooper Team mystic
Cooper Team mystic

With those 10 thousand rats I can take down all of Europe A couple hundred years ago Good thing I still am playing 1.8 instead of the new updates

Vor 26 Tage
Melanie Conway
Melanie Conway

I'd choose the birds and the person. Of course, terrain matters, but having one defender able to shoot down all the larger targets and then having the birds take down the many rats (approximately 20 each, which is feasible, plus they're the only flying option + they have a large group size), I think I could make it given that it wasn't suddenly head to head battle with all at once. Of course, I'd never want to hurt any of these animals and would probably just sacrifice myself, but if I _were_ to try and live, I'd go with this option. Though I understand your choice of having the rats on your side, I personally can just imagine them getting trampled and torn to shreds easy-peasy.

Vor 26 Tage
θηρίον Skiing
θηρίον Skiing

While I understand putting humans in a tier I would say the current meta favors tactics and intelligence so coupled with either the rats or eagles or even cattle since they are mountable by high level humans they are a pretty good choice if on a open field

Vor 27 Tage
Mitchell Sanders
Mitchell Sanders

Um, I think that's actually a shotgun...

Vor 27 Tage
J Michael Barnes
J Michael Barnes

Here's a list to try with the same general concept. 35 x Indian Cobras 2 x Black Rhinoceri 7 x Komodo Dragons 3 x Humans that have never met before but do speak the same language 25 x Eastern Screech Owls 12 x Striped Hyena 20 x Pagolins 5 x Bengal Tigers 1,000,000 x red ants

Vor 27 Tage
Hyperfairy777
Hyperfairy777

Even if the human has eye protection and armour, it would still be difficult to line up a clear shot with say, 25 eagles simultaneously pecking and clawing at you as well as flying close to your face if they don't decide to dive after that presumably failed Edit: they can also flank the VIP to make getting a clear shot even harder

Vor 28 Tage
Rob Mckennie
Rob Mckennie

feasibly land a shot from a kilometer away? lmfaooo i don't even know very much about guns and i know that's a fantasy, without even taking into consideration that the picture shows a gun without any kind of optical sight

Vor 28 Tage
Ryan Deschamps
Ryan Deschamps

the rodents definitely, those beasts will absolutely RAVAGE the enemies food supply

Vor 28 Tage
Youtuber
Youtuber

Just nuke them

Vor 28 Tage
yoshiflash5
yoshiflash5

I bet the rats will help a ton

Vor 29 Tage
oscar saavedra
oscar saavedra

Stonks

Vor 29 Tage
ALEXANDER THOMPSON
ALEXANDER THOMPSON

Hey I chose eagles and rats! The old Zerg strat

Vor 29 Tage
Can Torumtay
Can Torumtay

Humans can craft war planes

Vor Monat
Alex Teagle
Alex Teagle

This swarm meta is so op

Vor Monat
Lit A Ly
Lit A Ly

Human against rats poison gas mask boom s tier

Vor Monat
Jace WHITTAKER
Jace WHITTAKER

5:51 gO mY rAtS aNd EaGlEs!

Vor Monat
Main A
Main A

I pick the 17,000 crocodiles

Vor Monat
Andynonymous
Andynonymous

I said rats and the human...But you should have said how many bullets the human would have because that is a massive variant.

Vor Monat
dapula burger
dapula burger

rats weight about 400g, so to get a similar weight as a bear, you need about 500 of them. Plus when you split the weight, the damage that each rat does is so weak that it might not bite through the bear hide. Say a 200 kg bear has 20 armor, a huge rat that weighs 200 kg has 200 damage, so each hit does 180 damage. Each of the rat among the 10,000 rats has 0.02 damage. Even the total damage is the same, after considering the armor, each rat does 0 damage, and 10,000 rats does 0 times 10,000 damage, which is still 0. So if you want to beat a 200kg bear with 400g rats, you need at least more than 200kg of rats. I'd say at least twice of three times the weight of a bear, so at least 1000 rats for a bear. Plus you can only have that many rats to fight simultaneously, the rest can only wait for their turn. It's like zealots holding a choke point vs the zerglings. 3 bears can fight at least rats, if not more.

Vor Monat
MaterClaritas
MaterClaritas

who holds the number 3 spot in the meta

Vor Monat
Daniel Ten Hove
Daniel Ten Hove

RIDE RATS AND FLY WITH EAGEL

Vor Monat
Stax
Stax

I picked the Eagles and Rats immediately.

Vor Monat
VynalDerp
VynalDerp

Rats and human is better. If the human has a shotgun, anyway. Birdshot could make mincemeat of the birds and he does seem to have a hat to protect from eye hits.

Vor Monat
Demarkil
Demarkil

I think you overestimate the effect of the fliers and underestimate how effective the human would be. Eagles are not that fast fliers and when they dive they travel in a straight line. They can't swarm the rifleman while attacking at full speed due to space constraints. Any kind of overhead cover severely nerfs their ability to do diving attacks. And you forget that their diving attacks take time to set up and execute, far greater time than reloading the rifle the human is seen carrying in the photo. You also dismiss the human's Intelligence stat which would allow them to coordinate with the strength of other attacking animals, and how it could make and execute complicated plans with you. Indeed, in an open field where the eagles would be at their most effective, you will be dead before they have the time to reach the rifleman - and you can't even tell them to go specifically for the human because of their low Int stat. Otherwise I agree fully with your list, just swap the eagles down one tier and the human up one.

Vor Monat
Dylan Martinez
Dylan Martinez

Bruh I've seen a 12 lb. Patterdale fuck up about 20 rats in a matter of minutes I dont think 200 is gonna do shit to a bear

Vor Monat
DarkRonnie
DarkRonnie

before seeing this, i would have chosen the rats and the human, thinking that the human could snipe the worst for the big beasties, while following the same logic as given here for rats, but after watching, yeah the eagles would be pretty damn hard to deal with for everyone on this list, Top Marks Sir TierZoo X)

Vor Monat
GulaschLukas 13
GulaschLukas 13

Saltcrocodiles are the most intelligent reptiles so why did you put their intelligent points so low

Vor Monat
Doge The Salty
Doge The Salty

Wow. I guessed at the beginning of the video and got it right!

Vor Monat
The Amazing Arsonist
The Amazing Arsonist

Yeah taking the rats, ever read James Herbert's the rats? people getting eaten alive by the furry buggers is not fun. If it was like 100 rat's they'd be more balanced but they are so OP in this with there numbers.

Vor Monat

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