The Med Student is Always Wrong

PowerPerPound
PowerPerPound

I try to get around this by asking if they want a full presentation or a quick summary with pertinent positives at the beginning but just asking that you sometimes get berated for not magically knowing which one beforehand.

Vor 8 Monate
PowerPerPound
PowerPerPound

@John I'm six foot and deadlift over 600lbs but that changed nothing. In medicine it's not the size of your muscles that makes you scary but the size of your CV.

Vor 18 Tage
John
John

Y'all need to start lifting and looking scarier.

Vor 18 Tage
Fluffy
Fluffy

@Clary Fray perhaps it can help knowing they very likely themselves went through the exact same thing when they were a student. It will not make you not care anymore but it might help not feeling you are stupid since this is very clearly a very relatable situation for many mee students and probably even when being a resident and maybe even when you just start out in your field. Things will get better for you when you gain more experience and confidence. ♥️. Getting into medschool at all means you aren't stupid. You didn't fail exams, at least not continuously (I mean maybe you failed one during the years but that too happens, you're still learning!) to even make it into a hospital for internships or a resident at all. If you were stupid, you wouldn't be where you are. Believe in yourself. Or I should say yourselves as it goes for all of you 💪 You WILL make great doctors one day. And I feel that insecurity at this stage also can help you learn more. Sounds contradictory but thinking you know and van do it all can come back to you in a very nasty way. I bet all doctors have moments and patients they wonder if they are on the right track. Now I will write something very long and likely nobody will read it. It's about me, my bladder issues and doctors making mistakes, needing confirmation or Ideas from their team showing that experienced doctors don't know it all either, by far. After a bad argument with my first urologist who insisted that my pain came from not being able to empty my bladder and I had extreme issues with it. He had promised a cystoscopy if the ultrasound showed nothing. I had a hunch what my issue was but when my ultrasound came back clear the cystoscopy was off the tablet. That was the ONLY way to diagnose My hunch of Interstitial Cystitis. After keeping up with wanting one and hun saying I would see het was right and nothing would show, he finally said yes. The (different and then my new treating) urologist who did the cystoscopy on me due to what turned out to be Interstitial Cystitis. That was in november 2011. But I kept having so much pain he sent me down again in Feb 2012(I had mine under GA because of SA and absolute freaking out by the idea to have the cystoscopy.) because he started to doubt himself and was afraid he might have overlooked any ulcers. He hadn't. We started local paintreatment (which meant I had to get over a mental block since it involved self cathing twice a day with xylocaine.) I had things that triggered me being unable be pee so I needed to be able to selfcath for that too. That in itself has an example of a doctor at the end of his career in 2007. I couldn't pee triggered by meds but after that it started to happen unexpectedly or after general anesthesia for some reason. The doctor had already written the referral to the pelvic floor therapy that I had had in 2002 so I said I KNEW I did NOT have an issue with my pelvic floor. He insisted and said that since I was a woman I wouldn't be able to recognize the too tight pelvic floor muscles. (Huh? It's actually males who are more prone to being unaware of that but I swallowed my words). However, in order to be able to send the referral het HAD to do a test I forgot the name of rn but it involves getting electrodes around the pelvic floor and on the stomach and filling up my bladder. Then, I had to pee. He needed to be 100% sure it wasn't another issue and PT needed that test. And it was a few drops coming out and that was it. I had to get another catheter to get the fluid out. The only time any muscles really responded was inserting the electrodes into my urethra. I came back for the result of the test and right in front of me he apologized and said he had been wrong and I was right. In fact, my bladder didn't do anything. It was very helpful to have a name for it as hypotonic bladder. Because I needed a doctor often to help me empty my bladder but they always strung me along since they thought it was Just tension and I had to do relaxing shit for hours, sit in warm water, run the water etc. As soon as I could say I have a hypotonic bladder, I could come right away. So even experienced doctors make mistakes or work according to the 99% and you happen to be the 1%. The bad news was there was no treatment and I would need to learn to self cath or wear a CAD which I didn't want due to bladdercramps and other issues. Luckily the nurse did An unorthodox way of teaching me. She noticed I could not do it with a mirror to look at myself with her next to it on top. So she let me go to the bathroom saying I had had so many caths I would know Just about where and how. And indeed I did and once I managed that I was good to go. Really happy with her understanding and not pushing me their way. I had already always had had pain and peeing like I drank gallons of water but the pain I thought was normal and everyone experienced that when emptying their bladder. But that pain got way worse after several UTI's until one Day it became worse and worse. That was in 2011. So I already had been having bladderissues. Here An example of a doctor admitting his mistake and prejudice and a doctor who acted as a jerk, came back to his own plan after he had said that if the ultrasound was clear het would do the cystoscopy and then didn't. The "I know better than you"-attitude. He did change that along the way and when I got my surgery which he would be doing. But that's coming up Back to 2012. Local treatment and systemic painkillers. Nothing worked. My urologist had discussed a cystectomy and the options I had to get my bladder replaced. Turned out the team wanted to do Botox first. At least help me with the 50-60times peeing a Day. Turned out to be worse off. Now I still had to pee 30times a Day but..my bladder was fully paralyzed and my normal method to avoid cathing to squeeze with my stomach muscles also failed completely. Now I had to selfcath 30times a Day messing me up in more than one way but again, the CAD was no solution for me either. My Urologist truly felt terrible because as he said:"I feel so bad, I feel like I made things even worse for you than they were." Now I didn't blame him at all but I felt bad he felt bad. In the course of a few months I was hospitalized Just before my surgery because of the pain I couldn't handle anymore and my doc stopped all efforts to discharge me because the painteam couldn't help me either anymore. All urologists were instructed to keep me until the next week unless I wanted to go home. It turned out that one of the reasons to hospitalize me and keep me there despite basically Just having the same pain, Just not at home, was because he was genuinely afraid I was going to check out. And I mean like...✝️ because of the pain I was in and he saw was getting worse quickly. One more he wrote was:"has a face fully distorted from pain, sitting hunched over, almost with her head on the desk. Extreme pain." In feb 2013 I got a urostomy, my bladder and urethra are removed and apart from Phantom pee urge (if I'm confused or half awake and feel the urge I Will still sit down on the toilet before realizing what the heck I'm doing) and sadly chronic nervepain after a revision a year later, I am nowhere near where I was painwise. (But my painkillers still keep it manageable) This was a very long story (sorry) to show you that doctors who have their degree also have patients that they make decisions for that sometimes aren't helping, or make things worse unexpectedly, and especially they do keep running things in their head or past their coworkers because they need input or validation for especially heave surgeries like mine. It happens . Doctors with degrees may act like they know everything to students (and their patients unless they are like my urologist who Just says it when he feels he personally made things worse when he didn't.) but in reality have their percentage of patients they need more than one Idea or treatment for and even then come at a part where they Just don't know anymore. Just promise yourself to not be like urologist 1 I mentioned who said he would do the cystoscopy and then refused at first and ended with "you'll see I'm right". THAT is an attitude no doctor should have. Stay humble enough to think that one diagnosis doesn't rule another one in the same one out. I happened to have a hypotonic bladder AND IC which I guess is rare but not impossible. And that's something to keep reminding yourself of. "He or she is Obese but we should still run tests with these symptoms" is another one important to keep in mind because too many overweight people are sent away because doctors only look at their weight and say all their symptoms Will disappear if they lose weight and then it turns out to be an actual serious issue that if noticed sooner could have been treated. Enough preaching. I hope that my word salad Will make some sense in that you are smart, you Will make it as a doctor but promise yourself to always keep in mind to rethink a diagnosis of a patiënt isn't improving or Just if the one you made doesn't feel completely right. You are never too old to learn, as shown by the simple example of the doc who retired 2 years later after he was sure it was my pelvic floor muscles. It still was something that made him realize he shouldn't assume Just because of my gender.

Vor Monat
Lowkey Lokii
Lowkey Lokii

@Connor Adams any intern/student whatever in most profession is just a shit show for the new guys. But it's really bad for medicine/fire fighter/ police officers shit like that. Because they kinda take pride in hazing the new guy. Not sure why shitting on the lowman on the totem pole is a rite of passage. But apparently it makes sense to make ppl hate the job before they get to do it 😂

Vor Monat
Podalirius1
Podalirius1

4th year med student here; just got marked down on my last eval by my preceptor on my ENT rotation for not being sufficiently thorough on my presentations exactly 2 weeks after being marked down on my previous eval by my FM preceptor for being too slow and overly detailed on my presentations, so this may just be the most relatable youtube video I've ever seen.

Vor 8 Monate
Dr. Vincent Hannosh
Dr. Vincent Hannosh

Ya, the struggle is definitely real!

Vor 19 Tage
Scawy Demon
Scawy Demon

But wouldn't it be... BETTER to have more detail on the patient???

Vor Monat
Zappababe
Zappababe

@FlamesOfJihad That's true, but sometimes what's best for covering the ass of the employer is also beneficial to the employee, so it's worth going through HR to resolve an issue.

Vor Monat
EthioBelle
EthioBelle

I’m a nursing student but I’ve had the same experience but with the same clinical tutor on separate days. One day I was too vague because I skipped over the pre-admission details thinking it was irrelevant (she wanted details of what happened in each of the hospitals the pt stayed in beforehand), another day I’m too detailed and need to “get to the actual important info” 🤦🏽‍♀️

Vor 2 Monate
Asharra12
Asharra12

Not the same but when Inwas studying to be a teacher I had these two pracs that where very similar. One told me that I had too little detail in my lesson plans ans that I would never make it as a teacher is I didn't plan ahead. The second one told me that I was too detailed and that I'd burn out as a teacher if I made every lesson plan that detailed 😅 fortunately most of my pracs agreed with the second, especially because I teach better with only a little planning

Vor 3 Monate
8duckies
8duckies

I’m a nurse and whenever we’ve got med students I try my best to give them a recap on what each doctor likes to hear 💗 no one likes being THAT student

Vor 4 Monate
Kirby Kaeufer
Kirby Kaeufer

You're awsome just know

Vor 4 Tage
Palm Spirit
Palm Spirit

This actually frustrated me a lot. Students are expected to morph into every attending's preference. One tells you you're a student you have to present the full picture so that we know you can do it while another says they only want to know what's important to save time and so they know you know how to hone in on important changes/events.

Vor 8 Monate
9manny99
9manny99

I’ll stick to nursing 🙌 Keep on working to be Docs!

Vor 11 Tage
Dr. Vincent Hannosh
Dr. Vincent Hannosh

This is a mere failure of the preceptor. Expectations aren’t clearly set at the beginning of these rotations which makes it appear as if the medical student is to blame when in fact it’s actually the preceptor. As I was typing that I realized it’s a form of gaslighting lol

Vor 19 Tage
Chad Temples
Chad Temples

How about doctors just suck it up quit being so damn cranky and let the student speak. They act like royalty. If the student finishes speaking and they missed something then yeah correct them and expect more next time

Vor Monat
Katie Rasburn
Katie Rasburn

Yep its the same in radiography. Youre just expected to know how each radiographer works and how they want things done magically

Vor 3 Monate
Fatima Zahoor
Fatima Zahoor

This is so damn relatable. When we started learning history taking, every doctor told us about their way of history taking, they were like: you should tell this first, then this and then that. So we’d change our history according to those instructions. Then the next doctor would come and tell us our presentation was wrong and we should do it all over again according to their instructions. And this happened over and over again.

Vor 8 Monate
Daniella Rheaume
Daniella Rheaume

That was my experience in nursing school as well, and yet if you mention that it’s taken as you “making excuses and not taking responsibility”, they need feedback on their teaching just as much as student need feedback

Vor 5 Tage
vishal vivek
vishal vivek

@Dennis Daniel True.. Very True

Vor 6 Monate
Dennis Daniel
Dennis Daniel

@vishal vivek like a vicious cycle.

Vor 6 Monate
vishal vivek
vishal vivek

@Dennis Daniel The abused becomes the abuser like life in general...Sad but True 😞

Vor 6 Monate
Dennis Daniel
Dennis Daniel

@Fatima Zahoor It's almost as if they forget when they leave medical school

Vor 8 Monate
Constantine III
Constantine III

Don't worry sir. I played league of legends for years. I've already accepted and embraced what a stupid useless fool I am. Mold me, I am hollow and empty, clay waiting to be shaped into something of value

Vor 8 Monate
Chasidah *teampublishorperish Fried
Chasidah *teampublishorperish Fried

This is the only acceptable mindset for learning.

Vor 27 Tage
Have Fun Ta Za Ra Su
Have Fun Ta Za Ra Su

Mlbb or Lol better?

Vor 4 Monate
Luhveless
Luhveless

This is the best comment I’ve ever read

Vor 6 Monate
Rakan O
Rakan O

Lmao okay vayne calm down mama lol

Vor 6 Monate
Sam H
Sam H

@NickXenix I'm not trolling, I'm continuing the joke that was clearly begun in the comment I'm replying to. Reread the original comment, and try and pick up on the joke. I understand that sarcasm doesn't translate particularly well in text, but surely this one is painfully obvious if you take the time to understand it.

Vor 6 Monate
Slime Corpse
Slime Corpse

Now imagine being the scribe that has to magically know how all of the doctors want their stuff done 💀 it was awful

Vor 8 Monate
nunchukgrl2
nunchukgrl2

I feel that

Vor 6 Monate
NotaYouTuber
NotaYouTuber

I remember consulting with my doctor and watching the scribe write. I must’ve said something significant because after giving a one word answer, the scribe’s fingers went into overdrive.

Vor 8 Monate
SagittalSuture
SagittalSuture

@Tell me your worries. Caz am listening.  A "Scribe" is someone who types up the patient & provider interaction to create an account or "note" for the patient's medical record for each visit. Ex., What the problem is, exam findings, diagnose(s), and plan ... etc. These "notes" can be several typed pages in length and if I'm being real honest most providers are NOT so fortunate as to have the luxury of a "scribe." 😭

Vor 8 Monate
Tell me your worries. Caz am listening.
Tell me your worries. Caz am listening.

@SagittalSuture wow..what is a scribe? Nurse?

Vor 8 Monate
TimeBucks
TimeBucks

This may be the most accurate thing

Vor 8 Monate
activate windows
activate windows

@NickXenix I'm so sosososo sorry please spare my life 🙏🙏🙏

Vor 7 Monate
NickXenix
NickXenix

@activate windows do you not understand what the verified person meant by "may"?

Vor 7 Monate
Woffal [Skyblock]
Woffal [Skyblock]

Ok timebucks

Vor 7 Monate
activate windows
activate windows

Effortless comment made by verified person getting top comment. Classic Also, you dont know if it's "the most accurate thing". In fact, you dont even half understand the video.

Vor 8 Monate
eksboks148
eksboks148

really? man it must be hard.. oh also here before 250 likes

Vor 8 Monate
sMUG
sMUG

I feel like, sadly, many teachers in medical school think that scolding equals teaching.

Vor 8 Monate
Josette Dae Jung
Josette Dae Jung

Most of my family are doctors or lawyers, and the bulk of them have God complexes. Society expects more than they can give, and I think that's a common coping mechanism. I don't know; I'm only a teacher.

Vor 6 Monate
olivia Page
olivia Page

yes! I'm in year two of preclinical, and half the teachers want lengthy, in-depth case presentations with all the antécédents, positives and negatives and family status, and others pretty much just want us to say the ID, age, and diagnosis. They all say that their way is the correct way to present a case.

Vor 8 Monate
iasian246
iasian246

think smetimes you can kind of see which subspecialties want what. like surgeons & o&g doctors mostly want shorter summarised presentations whereas internal medicine, infectious disease those guys probably want something more lengthy. but i get it haha been through those years of medical school and the profs are never satisfied

Vor 8 Monate
Josef Zalusky
Josef Zalusky

Why have mentally stable medical professionals when we can... not?

Vor 8 Monate
Dr. Florida Man; PhD
Dr. Florida Man; PhD

That’s when you say “forget this” and become the psychiatrist 😂

Vor 4 Monate
mafia city Hilmy
mafia city Hilmy

*big brain time*

Vor 7 Monate
francesca francesca
francesca francesca

🤣🤣😢 noooOOº

Vor 8 Monate
Marjie Estivill
Marjie Estivill

Always wrong! If you can be broken, you should be broken at this point…that philosophy is shared by the seniors of several professions.

Vor 8 Monate
Jennifer Lynn Barkley
Jennifer Lynn Barkley

Pilots too! If you can be wrong, you're wrong.

Vor 6 Monate
Oyinkansola Oladipupo
Oyinkansola Oladipupo

Yeah clinical psychologists also, especially in Nigeria 😂😂

Vor 6 Monate
Passtainment
Passtainment

@Birtalan Lorant LMAOO

Vor 6 Monate
Andrici Loredana
Andrici Loredana

@SupervisorSwanky hah! In school there are so many toxic teachers. In middle school we had a teacher kind of like him and she thought she knew better and was better and sometimes would pick on us, she literally made a classmate cry. It's a story of what she did to me ( if you want to know, if you don't want to hear it you don't need to read it): she put me read in french ( she's a french teacher) and my pronunciation wasn't so good but she wasn't correcting me and I didn't think it was that bad. She said that was all bad ( in a meaner way) and I thought she just let me embarass myself like that and made a fool of me like not correct me to tell me how bad I am and insult me afterwards so I started shaking a little bit ( probably because of anxiety, she literally made me feel so bad and anxious) and she noticed and she was like it was not my fault ( she didn't say this, what she said was just like not taking accountability of her actions and blaming me, I don't remember what she said tho). In my mind I was like you're the teacher, it's your job to correct me, why'd you just listen and say nothing just to make fun of me!?! In highschool now we have another toxic teacher but like not in this way. And a lot of ignorant ones.

Vor 8 Monate
Birtalan Lorant
Birtalan Lorant

@TheAraber that’s just engineering professors in a nutshell

Vor 8 Monate
Lauren Smith
Lauren Smith

I think the reveal that Mr. Jones is 97 is a new addition to the canon!

Vor 8 Monate
Vasconcelos
Vasconcelos

Don't worry he was born in February 29

Vor 6 Monate
Finley
Finley

@russiansaltmachine they said least amount of birthdays. 1 birthday every 4 years. So more like 97 divided by 4

Vor 8 Monate
Laura Smith
Laura Smith

Yooooo nice name!!!! Haha

Vor 8 Monate
russiansaltmachine
russiansaltmachine

@Finley Wait, if he was born on leap day, then wouldn't he be waaay older than 97? If he counted his age based on each leap year, then that means he's *4 times* 97.

Vor 8 Monate
Abel Feltes
Abel Feltes

As a paramedic, I can really relate to this when giving reports. But they just stop listening instead of getting upset.

Vor 8 Monate
Abel Feltes
Abel Feltes

I get the time crunch issue. And it really depends on the call. Sometimes a call is so routine, that it's kind of a chore to listen to the whole thing when you're busy and just trying to filter for things that are important. So, that's what I try to do. I try to quickly say what I think is going on with the patient and what findings have led me to have those concerns. Then, I quickly say every treatment I've given and anything else that's unique and important about the patient.

Vor 8 Monate
Sally Cinnamon
Sally Cinnamon

It’s pretty hard to gauge cause the report we want is very much depending on our level of trust in your assessment and how long we have.

Vor 8 Monate
patricia bennett
patricia bennett

Oh my Mr. Jones has so much wrong with him. It is a miracle he is still alive. Really so amusing. Oh my he must be receiving so much attention from fourth year student. Doc needs to encourage and guide students to ensure they learn without being scolded. Aggressive and lack of patience is what makes some professionals arrogant and power struck. Encouraging and inspiring is the way to go. A good teacher is one with ability to get results. Thank you so very much. Kindest regards

Vor 8 Monate
Clary Fray
Clary Fray

OMG this is SO ACCURATE!! Every professor has different standards and it's literally so hard keeping up with them, whenever they tell me "the history is very detailed OR the history should be more detailed" in my head I'm like "make up your mind people, can't anyone set some standards for it, I have a ton of other work to do as well🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️"

Vor 8 Monate
Muhammad Sharjeel
Muhammad Sharjeel

I swear every single professor is going to bend you by their own rules. That's the norm in every med school🤦🤦🤦

Vor 7 Monate
Asad
Asad

That's so accurate. No one is ever satisfied with the history that med students present.

Vor 8 Monate
destroysilence
destroysilence

Even working as a substitute preschool teacher's assistant feels like this sometimes. Hard to keep track of preferences, even in the day to day lives of toddlers. I can't imagine how much more stressful this is in the medical field. Life and death.

Vor 7 Monate
Manish mehta
Manish mehta

Exactly 😂😂 Happened with me all the time.. But by the time I was in 4th year i had known which professors want to listen the history from the start or which ones only want to hear the positive findings.. But still the history will never be perfect 😂

Vor 7 Monate
Mel
Mel

Makes me honestly glad I left biology in high school lol 💀 Props to all the doctors and nurses and other medical staff you are just amazing 💜💜💜

Vor 3 Monate
Cat the Meg
Cat the Meg

Meanwhile, an intern: probably saved my dad's life when the actual doctors with experience had no idea what was happening

Vor 8 Monate
Kayla Donn Richardson
Kayla Donn Richardson

You're doing it wrong, and you should have known that ahead of time. That's the lesson I learned first week of med school clinical rotations.

Vor 8 Monate
Beth Moore
Beth Moore

Mr Jones is 97? He should be studied, actually, as he’s got glitches in every system, and he’s still here. Mostly.

Vor 8 Monate
Muhammad Nabil
Muhammad Nabil

Hahaha...gold. :D

Vor 6 Monate
braepau
braepau

I was a pharmacy assistant for two years and I can sort of relate. Every pharmacist has their preferences and they all want you to magically know what they expect from you. Frustrating for sure.

Vor 3 Monate
kiriko the smug
kiriko the smug

Brings me back to The good old times when a surgeon told me I should always use the patient's own words when talking about the chief complaint. Came back to him with liver pain as the patient said. Got humiliated for it the whole day. 😂

Vor 7 Monate
OddSketch
OddSketch

Don't feel to bad. You experience this as an engineering intern as well. I've heard both of these from the same director of engineering over the same project on same day. "This project breakdown is too detailed, give me the thousand mile view" "This project breakdown is too vague, I want the full details in the next hour."

Vor 8 Monate
J B
J B

Sounds like that attending has been relying on residents and medical students for too long.

Vor 8 Monate
SagittalSuture
SagittalSuture

Exactly

Vor 8 Monate
Anna Nightstar
Anna Nightstar

This really frustrated me as a medical student, even as a practicing junior, you have to switch to every senior's preference. Bs

Vor 8 Monate
Davonlo
Davonlo

60% through and I zoned out because it felt like a fever dream, idk about going to medical school now

Vor 6 Monate
Ariel Harmony
Ariel Harmony

I was adopted by a Catholic mother. Met my adoptive mom only to find out I’m Jewish. Not only am I always wrong but everything I’ve ever done is wrong and everything I do in the future will always be wrong and I am bad for it. It’s just peachy

Vor 8 Monate
Ariel Harmony
Ariel Harmony

@Shuragami I moved across the country and haven’t talked to my mom in 10 years and wow so much less guilt! Wonder why?

Vor 8 Monate
Shuragami
Shuragami

Sounds like a really stressful home environment. I wish you luck.

Vor 8 Monate
Dennis Daniel
Dennis Daniel

The last "OF COURSE" had me in the feels. It's like, you know it's not your fault but you still cannot explain or defend yourself. You just feel like imploding 😩

Vor 8 Monate
chabandou
chabandou

This hits too close to home, You can never do a perfect presentation in medical school and the sooner you realize that the better.

Vor 6 Monate
Ali
Ali

I’m an engineering student and I have no interest in switching to medicine, yet I’m addicted to watching these even tho I have no idea what they mean

Vor 7 Monate
Alcier
Alcier

I'm a first year nursing student and I'm eager to continue onto medical school, but damn, this gave me so much anxiety

Vor 6 Monate
David Ciaccia
David Ciaccia

Very true and frustrating for the student. It does help a student compare/contrast different lines of thought in practicing medicine and know what's not necessarily needed but helpful info and essential info. It'll help them grow to figure how they would think about practicing medicine. But like most things present need to know to prove your diagnosis concisely and have ready other info just in case its needed.

Vor 8 Monate
Santibag
Santibag

I was similar when I was in 1st year Terms and Conditions, EULA and Bunch of Other Legal Things Reading Program(yes, this is totally an official program name, trust me). To "make an informed decision and not be deceived", I once decided to read the text. I changed my mind so quickly. But I later understood that all you need is to read the important part, which is usually a specific part. Nobody cares about the terms page (except scammers, maybe 😜). If the opposite side has customers with lawyers frequently, you're probably fine with just the related parts. To learn more, read a better guide for these. I'm just taking out of observations.

Vor 7 Monate
Julia Cate
Julia Cate

i got a degree in biology. at the beginning of my college career i wanted to be a doctor. watching this video confirms as to absolutely why i could not be a doctor. 😂😂

Vor Monat
jobless.bum7
jobless.bum7

no matter how hard you try or how well you do, sometimes you just cant win

Vor 8 Monate
Betpat Patten
Betpat Patten

How true how true! My husband went through all of that so many years ago! He would come home from work and tell me about it. So deflating but then again he did learn. He had great patience with up-and-coming young people, and they loved him as a professor!

Vor 8 Monate
MyFirstName MyLastName
MyFirstName MyLastName

If you'll tell us his specialty and the area of the country he lives in I'll be sure and look him up if I need that sort of care. Because someone like that is a wonderful doctor to have. I'll bet he has enough humility still to want to keep learning his whole life, to consult others when he needs to, and even (gasp!) listens to the patient! And although all professionals sometimes let journals stack up unread because of how little free time they have, he probably cracks one open now and then.

Vor 6 Monate
grumbles
grumbles

I shadowed a surgical resident when I was considering going into medicine, who was in the clinic with a few different surgeons. He presented his first patient to an attending, who scolded him for being too brief and dug into him to present all the details and in a specific order. Then he presented his second patient to another attending and started it the way the first doc told him to, and this one cut him off and started yelling at him for "dictating a novel, just hit me with the simple bullet info", and when he tried to do that in the order the first doc wanted, he kept getting yelled at for not doing it the way HE wanted. Presents the 3rd patient to a 3rd doc, doing it the way the 2nd doc made him, and the doc interrupts him "Whoa whoa, what are you doing, no no, what is this, start over. First, you need to tell me...etc." After that patient, the resident looked at me with a completely defeated look and said, "You can't win. No matter what, you just can't win. Everything you do will be wrong and you'll get yelled at, no matter what. I guess I've hit the learned helplessness phase."

Vor 4 Monate
Theo
Theo

Not a doctor but I have to do clinical presentations for my clients all the time (crisis emergency work) to a psychiatrist about my clients. Some are really easy - they just want straight to safety facts and dispo, and others want long winded information and sometimes I can mix the two preferences with the other doctors and then get slightly berated for not giving them the info they want, lol!

Vor 8 Monate
duswdav
duswdav

Once you’re a resident, always give a more detailed presentation until you know what that attending prefers, then you can tailor it. When you’re attending you just learn to sell the patient so the consultants will agree to take the patient. 😬 in the end it doesn’t really matter. When calling for consults I usually have to repeat myself multiple times anyways.

Vor 27 Tage
theparijat1000
theparijat1000

Ayyy the different faculty different preferences lol. Can relate as a doc from India, it seems like medical fraternity goes through same grind everywhere. Big thanks to you for making such relatable content for us medicos. Sometimes makes me want to try something like this myself, from the medical teaching perspective as I teach anatomy.

Vor 6 Monate
Our Zoe
Our Zoe

Very smart making the camera higher on student to make him look smaller, and lower on the residents to make them look bigger/in charge

Vor 8 Monate
Dennis Daniel
Dennis Daniel

This happened to me just last week. As a sixth year medical student, the resident managed to make me feel like that day was my first clinical rotation. Just because I decided to present the history and examination exactly how the consultant in that unit said he wanted it some weeks before. The resident flipped and said I cannot possibly be a sixth year presenting a history so disorganized, when I told her that the consultant had demanded that we do it that way, she said "That's a lie, he couldn't have possibly said that", because apparently she knows (more than himself) how he likes to take his history. At this point, I just intend to take everything scolding as it comes😅😅 until I graduate.

Vor 8 Monate
David M
David M

This is very relatable even as a medical diagnostics student. I get negative comments daily for doing things one way when I'm only doing things that way because someone else gave me negative comments about the previous way I was doing something. Thank God our practical is only one year. I had to return to complete, and it's been the worst two years for my self esteem of my entire life.

Vor 6 Monate
Lakshani Rajapaksha
Lakshani Rajapaksha

I love how westerners are pretty confident and present like this to their seniors.. us Asians are super scared and almost pee our selves when we have to present because most our consultants are super intimidating.. 😆

Vor 8 Monate
dana102083
dana102083

@MyFirstName MyLastName that does explain a lot from my observations as a nurse in Canada. Thats a tough situation and wish I could say things will easily get better.

Vor 6 Monate
Jarski l
Jarski l

Not a medical branch but meanwhile here the boss once came to stop my working because he wanted to ask where he should go fishing on the upcoming weekend... thanks to awesome smalltalk skills I managed to get 20min extra break for myself 😂

Vor 6 Monate
Camille
Camille

@Lakshani Rajapaksha I feel your pain 😂

Vor 6 Monate
MyFirstName MyLastName
MyFirstName MyLastName

This is a big part of reason that most doctors feel entitled to be treated like Gods when they graduate.. in some cases they are being put through the ringer like this while also being expected to manage the patient ( in the off-hours especially) as though they were already as confident as this attending SOB. They are discouraged from reaching out for help from the Senior residents, but at the same time held accountable for any mistake they make. That's a terrible double bind and understandably when they have survived it they feel that they are entitled to be unchallenged and the last word in just about any decision they make. They pretty much had to be when they didn't know nearly as much. That gives many of them the feeling also that changing the way medical students are treated is letting others have it too easy to have earned that sort of respect and privilege once they graduate. I imagine it would be very hard to be the last class that was treated like this and know that the other graduates would eventually have exactly the same privileges, respect, and incomes that they did for surviving this! They treat each other so badly that it amounts to hazing and are tortured physically with lack of sleep. This is terrible for the patients who are treated by the medical student interns and residents who are at this stage of training! Those who survive the potential death spiral that is residency feel they have earned it. They must have super powers of ego to have maintained their self-respect and confidence, so that there a relatively high percentage of the survivors-- especially those in the better-paid, high stakes, high profile, super high income Specialties like neurology , cardiac surgery are narcissists. Those have unshakable conscious Egos and a whole lot of payback to do once they are finally in charge. Seeing this , which is quite realistic in some places does actually give me some empathyy even for that percentage of them who are narcissistic. The ones who survived intact with some empathy left and some humility are a very special and relatively small group. Those should be running the medical profession.

Vor 6 Monate
João Miguel Rodrigues Ferreira
João Miguel Rodrigues Ferreira

TBH knowing what to skip and what to give a little more information about is a skill and really shows that you know which issues are more and less relevant. Of course as an attending I try to acknowledge this and guide the student as to what is relevant or not. The student can’t read your mind.

Vor 3 Monate
nur nadirah
nur nadirah

This is the most accurate I've ever seen ☠️ different doctors want to listen different things, have different style. It's the thing i hate the most being a medical student 😭☠️

Vor 8 Monate
Julian Fernando
Julian Fernando

Imagine being related to Mr. Jones and having to list family health history to your doctor 😳

Vor 8 Monate
Pedro Alcaraz-Perea
Pedro Alcaraz-Perea

So true! That is why I try to give a one liner and then tell the doctor “would you like to know the patient history or the assessment and treatment plan?” Prevents presentation faux pas.

Vor 6 Monate
Oluwabusolanmi Oke
Oluwabusolanmi Oke

To all you med students out there You're working hard, stay strong

Vor 3 Monate
Aditi Johri
Aditi Johri

I felt this one in my soul... Something's always missing or wrong🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Vor 8 Monate
Mint
Mint

I can’t believe this is happening around the world. Just sad. How come almost every attending dr. are just like this. We have to dance around their own preferences.

Vor 7 Monate
John Michael Reyes
John Michael Reyes

We all go through this as doctors. No one is perfect.

Vor 8 Monate
DrDepper LP
DrDepper LP

Literally every time. Also doesn't even matter whether its a med student, EMT, nurse, or resident, as long as you aren't the attending you did it wrong. 😂

Vor 2 Monate
Vyansya
Vyansya

As a medstud im SCREAMING this is too accurate. One doctor be like "you're a medstud, you need to say it in detail so you can learn too!" Then other doctor be like "just skip the normal part, you need to know how to present it effectively" like which one should i do 😭

Vor 5 Monate
Bk 201
Bk 201

Its hard but when a single patient says thanks may God bless you. That just makes it all seem worth it. So everyone out therr remember to say thanks and praise all health care workers. It makes us happy

Vor 6 Monate
Natsuko
Natsuko

As a sick, rare illness, & one of those patient’s that have 2 pages of diagnosis. I am so sorry, I don’t make your guy’s life easy but I’m glad you guys can use me as an example! Lol my hospital is a university so I interact with 4th year’s doctors & nurses all the time. I appreciate all of you ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Vor 2 Monate
Cadence Thomas
Cadence Thomas

I even feel this way as an RN speaking to the Doc. Like one of you wants it all and the other is upset that I gave an SBAR.

Vor 8 Monate
icecrystal34
icecrystal34

This is so god damn relatable Im rotating in ob right now and every time the doc corrects the way i write birth notes, i apply the correction next time and the doc im with that day likes it a completely different way 😂

Vor 8 Monate
Kirsten
Kirsten

Mr Jones seems much more capable of attaining a successful life than any of the doctors attending him.

Vor 8 Monate
Teesh Lallipop
Teesh Lallipop

Im still a student going for RN but I will learn these three kinds of presentation methods: detailed history vs diagnostics vs pertinent positives only to up my versatility when working with others later on.

Vor 8 Monate
Joe Hopper
Joe Hopper

Talking to infectious diseases really makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

Vor 8 Monate
Apex Doxer
Apex Doxer

@Pyrite Panx fallout reference

Vor 8 Monate
Pyrite Panx
Pyrite Panx

What

Vor 8 Monate
HoneySal
HoneySal

Every time I see these videos I just hate these jobs more and more. It’s funny to them because they’re doing it and so it’s “okay”. But yeah, no. This amount of disrespect in the workplace after literally dedicating your life to something is awful and exhausting.

Vor 8 Monate
Camyl Anderson
Camyl Anderson

Ugh preceptors in NP school were the same way. Quite frustrating lol I was stressing more about what they wanted to listen to and less about my assessment and plan 🤦🏾‍♀️

Vor 8 Monate
MMC
MMC

Very accurate for nursing students as well. Same with nurses calling MD’s.

Vor 8 Monate
Q-Bits
Q-Bits

I am the kind of guy who replies to these with something like "I'm really working on my psycic skills but until I reached Zen 3 I'd apprechiate you telling me what you want beforehand rather than screwing me up afterwards". Worked most of the time. I even once told a guy that he should get a dog if he wants to feel dominant rather than intoxicating the working climate.

Vor 3 Monate
Esther Kueh
Esther Kueh

as a normal non medical field gang i dig his patient presentation btw i kinda appreciate the whole entire life story😅

Vor 4 Monate
JPaterson8942
JPaterson8942

Air traffic control trainees are always wrong, too. I was having panic and stress induced migraines attacks by the time I finished training...

Vor 6 Monate
amitan654
amitan654

each doctor has his/her own way of telling the history, you can never actually get it right 🥲🥲

Vor 8 Monate
Rahmen
Rahmen

All that I’ve learned from these medical YouTube shorts is that I couldn’t be more glad that I have no interest in being a med student because holy SHIT this looks like the worst thing in the world

Vor 28 Tage
patai
patai

I'm having flashbacks of war just by watching how accurate this is LMAOOOOOO

Vor 6 Monate
Brad Prince
Brad Prince

PTSD. Severe PTSD.

Vor 5 Monate
Elizabeth Askander
Elizabeth Askander

This is so damn true, even in nursing. Docs want different info, patients expect different shit. It’s like ughhhh

Vor 8 Monate
sanjae spencer
sanjae spencer

Man I saw this one in my soul lol . this was always so frustrating in med school

Vor 25 Tage
Pumpkin Jay
Pumpkin Jay

As a 4th year nursing student my first question is: Why do you guys not do an SBAR? That way the first doc will get his pertinent stuff and the second doc gets all of the background he wants.

Vor 2 Monate
Komal Siddiqui
Komal Siddiqui

OMG happened to me soo many times so relatable 😖😖

Vor 6 Monate
Dagmar de Vries
Dagmar de Vries

Vet school is the absolute same. Already had anxiety (continuous burn out) and I just could not take. Now I see that it might be awkward, but I'll live through it and it is not my business what every specialist thinks of me and jump through their hoops. Once you notice they all have different expections, you might as well let go and follow your gut

Vor 4 Monate
Angela Nicole
Angela Nicole

I feel that. Once person wants you to be fast and do it one way, and then another doesn't. Frustrating and mentally straining.

Vor 6 Monate
William McCartney
William McCartney

Love your Videos. Everyday you make me glad I stayed with E.E and didn't go Pre Med lol 🤣🤣

Vor 6 Monate
Bowery
Bowery

I'm half way through my paediatrics training and this has yet to change. 😑

Vor 8 Monate
Nature Imposter
Nature Imposter

Wait why is the medical student always wrong? Because they're new and they're trying to learn? If anything they might be paying more attention because they really want the career that they have not gotten yet. I'm sorry I don't completely understand all this stuff but it is interesting 🤔 Also to all the medical students out there keep up the good work you can do it! And to everyone else in the medical field Nurses,Doctors and even to the morticians and the down to the ones who drive the ambulance... Thank you for all your hard work 🙂👍 I know a lot of people say stuff like this but I really do mean it. If you see this randomly of course.

Vor 8 Monate
Sylvester
Sylvester

I’m an engineer but that “oh but of course” destroyed me.

Vor 6 Monate
charylane
charylane

The first thing that came to my mind, how the heck is this person still alive with all them disease at 97??!!😂💀

Vor 8 Monate
Abell Seyfu
Abell Seyfu

One doesn't own emotion, and when one is owned by emotion, it's a reflection of one's belief that one owns them🎈

Vor 8 Monate
seeni gzty
seeni gzty

had great patience with up-and-coming young people, and they loved him as a professor!

Vor 8 Monate
bocoy noiu
bocoy noiu

had great patience with up-and-coming young people, and they loved him as a professor!

Vor 8 Monate
madara uchiha
madara uchiha

I do rounds with residents, students and docs before. Usually if its a pt that we have been following for a while, we just skip right to the important updates. If it is a new pt then there is a bit more of the back story to it. Then each round with different doc is different. At this level there is no set of standard anymore. Its all fair game to who you have. Key advice is adaptability and flexibility

Vor 5 Monate
Alondra Fonseca
Alondra Fonseca

I’m a waitress… totally different case, but usually the rookies are the ones who are ALWAYS wrong 🙃🙃🙃🙃 I feel like that happens in every profession

Vor 8 Monate
sharon lynn
sharon lynn

Student doctor saved my life .The d9ctor on the ward dismissed him and he wouldn't budge to go so she opens one more staple on my stomach area .And the puss poured out . If he hadn't stood his ground I'd likely be dead

Vor 3 Monate
AlawiKD999
AlawiKD999

When I was a medical student I just got confused where to start histroy from patient's background or current illness 🤔

Vor 6 Monate
Cho Ee Ng
Cho Ee Ng

I can do so relate! Experienced this so many times

Vor 8 Monate
Valerie Cates
Valerie Cates

This happens in nursing too. I had a first day intern tell me this shit. Me, a 26 year high acuity rn and nurse practitioner tore him a new asshole.

Vor 5 Monate
Namita Bhopal
Namita Bhopal

As a resident, this is still extremely triggering to watch 😂

Vor 5 Monate
FacundoMD
FacundoMD

THOSE WERE DIFFICULT DAYS MY FRIENDS !!!!

Vor 8 Monate
Laurel Cook
Laurel Cook

I’m glad I dropped out of pre med for genetic and protein research 😂 biochem may be hard but we don’t squash each other in the lab.

Vor 8 Monate
Emmie X
Emmie X

I’m jealous.

Vor 8 Monate
B Dizzle
B Dizzle

Damned if ya do, Damned if ya don't. These people are in almost every profession. 😂 97 year old Jones can't catch a break. My great grandfather is 97, a WWII veteran, retired from Monsanto (they made agent orange), survived getting a heart valve replaced at 95, still drives, walks a mile per day, and is fairly healthy. He is all about staying healthy and fit. Since he is retired, he helps at the church. When volunteering, he does carpentry, and construction work. His wife (great grandmother) passed away in 2005, he still says " she was the most beautiful woman I have ever laid eyes on, even that foxy Sarah Palin would take second place in beauty and brains!" 😍 His mental health is fairly healthy, he's just a stubborn man, who is a walking talking history book. ♥️

Vor 8 Monate
Reuben
Reuben

If it’s all written down I’d just asked to see the chart 😂 save so much time, if it’s all written down then the med student gets a well done

Vor 6 Monate

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