Yeah, I can't imagine a world where I will ever prefer capacitive touch controls over physical buttons. As much as I'm into tech, I want as many analog feelings and controls as possible in my car.

Amen to that

Yea specially when it’s something that will be used very frequently. I would pass on those things alone

Touch screens are the work of the devil!

So back to phones with buttons ?

@Mihai Asandulesa ? I specifically said cars. Phones got rid of buttons to maximize screen size since space is so limited. Whereas almost all customer surveys and real world experience shows ppl in general hate haptic touch controls in cars. Or even worse, basic functions like heat and A/C being trapped inside menus that take multiple inputs to reach. Also physical buttons can be located without looking away from the road while driving, making haptic buttons more hazardous overall.

I have been shocked that other cars have not adopted Sentry mode and built in dashcam. It's crazy that so many cars have so many cameras, but they are virtually useless to the end user so much of the time.

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It's also crazy that Teslas have all these cameras and have yet to add a 360 degree view...

Yup, there have been several instances where the car cameras have caught burglars to your home or even people being assaulted so if you have an open garage it can be an additional security camera. There have been cases where the criminal parks his car within view of the camera and the license plate can be seen later.

Legacy carmakers have so many silod components, component designers/manufacturers and kind of have to go back to the drawing board to be able to integrate some or add certain types of functionality like this. Certainly in theory a very simple addition but in practice, unless you start over from scratch on all your A/V/tech for legacy car manufacturers it is much more complex than it was for Tesla.

I agree totally, it is such a fun car to drive and own. Concerning the fan speeds, I leave mine on auto 100% of the time which works great. Then I only have to adjust temperature usually by one degree. But it is so simple to give a verbal command of temperature 73 and it changes to 73. Also, I also cannot stand the turn signals and the horn “buttons”. Great review.

Ok

Ok buy me one

Cornering not include

the new update finally has buttons to adjust the fan speed ;)

@Mardox ok

I think Tesla is so hyper focused on the future that sometimes they forget to look at what's best for the present. It's a strategy that seems to be, in the end, working out for them.

Marques, as someone who hasn't made the transition to EVs, it's fascinating to watch these deep dives on cars from a practical perspective of "would this be my daily driver?". I wonder if you would be willing to make a video that discusses how far car companies in the next few years are focused on improving EV car ranges/batteries? Even though most Americans travel

IMHO EVs already have enough range to fill these requirements/needs. You’re plugging up when you’re at home, giving essentially 80% range all the time. If you go further from home you’ll fast/super charge to come home or continue on. All of this is assuming you’ve decent charging infrastructure where you live too. If you don’t, then I could see why you’d want considerably more range.

@😍Tony ParaSocial Never doubt how unreasonable the car consumer is. Even if people drive

@Brian Kim From my experience driving a long range model 3 across Europe with two adults, the car needs less and shorter stops to charge than the humans need to stretch their legs/visit the toilet/grab a bite to eat. My colleague drives a LR X with 3 younger kids and indicated he needs even more stops for kids, skewing the balance even more in favour for the car to not require you to stop separately for charging.

Range is farther than you’ll get on most ICE cars

The other replies have covered most everything, but maybe it's worth stating the high level point simply. Yes, the battery tech will continue to improve. Buying an EV is exactly analogous to buying a new laptop: sure, if you wait until Apple's next product cycle, you'll get a better computer for the same price. That will always be a true statement, so at some point you just have to decide whether the current tech is enough to satisfy your needs. We've owned a Model S 75D since 2018 and it's great. Sure, I wish I had the better batteries from the new ones available now, but the 2018 tech works great for our use case.

Marques! Thank you for putting so much efffort into this.. Totally agree with the 360 camera omission. Had a test drive in a Model X last week and was astonished that something so fundamental was not present. Here in Europe towns have small streets, narrow traffic lanes, and totally miniscule car parking spaces given the size of modern cars. This is a basic must-have (especially for the front corners and wheel arch area) despite the seeming effectiveness of the proximity sensors, especially in a car as large as the Model X.

I am an Ubermensch and have superior spatial awareness, I drive an Astra H gtc that has terrible visibility and never once dinged it, hit a curb or failed to park.

Removing the stalks felt like a solution to a non-existent problem.

Like removing the headphone jack.

i dont think its a solution but rather its a new problem

Wasn't made for the end user. It was done to lower the cost to manufacturer.

Until the car drives itself. Then why the fuck do I need buttons? Same thing happened when business users freaked out about moving to iOS from Blackberry.

No physical buttons/stalks means it can be updated via software in the future. Physical parts are cast in stone will always be same functionality. Steve Jobs first popularized this idea.

Totally agree with your review. The two things I hate the most about mine is the lack of turn signal stalk and the hoops we have to jump through to get to a menu for adjusting a

Basically the same here. Though the turn signals have become second nature to me to the point where going into a "normal" car feels weird/antiquated. The right side of the stalk, now that's an issue for me. The horn button being the worst thing ever.

@Cysco didn't tesla announce that they would change it back to being a physical center wheel press again ?

@Marc Baier I believe they are now shipping them that way now, but have not offered a retrofit to those of us early adopters.

adjusting a what?

I have the Model 3 and this was very interesting to watch. My car still has the physical stalks for turn indicators and gear switching, along with a full circular steering wheel. I've never used a yoke steering wheel, so can't really compare the two, but it seems like you got used to it quickly and are loving it. Is it difficult to use the capacitive touch buttons on the yoke when you're making a turn? For example, if you're making a U-turn and see a driver in front of you doing something strange, is it easy to locate the honk button and use it? I feel like I wouldn't be able to do it under the stress of that situation because you're turning the yoke and your hands have moved all over it, so the orientation might get all screwed up...but curious if this also becomes a muscle memory thing.

How long does it take to get used to the fact that all the controls are done through the screen? I work at a car dealer and the 1st time I got in a Model 3 we have for sale it took me ages to find the screen to turn on the wipers, or adjust the mirrors.

@Brendan G I moved from a Subaru Crosstrek (first gen, so not much electronics) to a Model Y, and within at most 1 week everything was fine. I still wish for an easier way to change temps and fan speed, but that's all.

@Brendan G it's definitely strange at first, but if you're driving it pretty regularly, then it becomes second nature with a week or two. The first time you try do something (like putting it in neutral or trying to defrost the windshield), it can be an awkward process of fumbling through menus, but after that, you'll get it and know how to do it.

​@BackfallGenius you could say that about any car.

Great video 👍🏼 What’s the range degradation like between 30k miles and 100k miles? That would typically be when I would own a car - like many people I buy secondhand at two to three years old and keep for about five years. How much do the batteries cost to replace? (presumably that would get you back to 100%, or are there other growing inefficiencies?).

Nice review. As a 2022 Plaid owner I have a lot of the same opinions. I too actually like the yoke and wouldn’t even select a normal wheel though it’s now an option. But I absolutely hate the buttons esp the turn signals and the horn which is ridiculously hard to use. The auto park feature is very flaky and rarely works and sometimes the console has connectivity issues. Driving it though is a pure rush and truly exhilarating though it is MASSIVELY underbraked. I wish the brake package was cheaper because you cannot help but drive spiritedly in this car.

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Great video! Have driven in some Teslas and completely agree with you that they feel cheap on the inside. As one friend said "it feels like a beta version". Also, can see from your video that the door handle has scrapes, as does the middle console. This to me suggests scrapes occur with things that slide in and out, or back and forth. Poor fit? Those details would irritate me. Also, I love physical buttons. Been driving for over 40 years and have driven many different cars. When driving, real physical buttons are much easier to work with.

Interesting to hear from real owners.

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Exactly. Most people bitching about EVs have never even been inside one.

That's the thing about new car and tech reviews. You really don't get to hear the bad unless it's glaringly obvious, nor do you get some of the intricacies of how things work. It would be nice to get more long term updates in the tech world. It is a bit more common with cars but there's very few I've seen on Teslas. I especially want to see long term tests on electric cars from people who aren't in the tech world, as in regular car reviewers. I think that would convert many that didn't care for electric cars to start.

You mean „real owners“?

+ not a fanboy

Absolutely right about the door handles reliability. On my 2014 P85D all 4 door handles have been repaired or replaced at one time or another, some of them repaired more than once. The latest revision 3 handle with magnetic sensors inplace of micro switchs resolved some of the reliability issues. But it’s still a moving part with motor, and gear and also wires that flex so something is still going to break at some point. And also agree about the cheap build quality, especially the interior. My less than $30K 2013 Leaf has a heated steering wheel and mirror, why is the ~$130K 2014 Tesla does not. Heated steering wheel was not added to Model S not until 2016 and only come with optional cold weather package. But damn that drive train, battery range, software update and SuperCharger network is what got me to stick with Tesla. Hope as they get more mature on building cars the build quality can match the price they are charging.

the door handles have gone thrugh atleat 3 revamps and the current ones are really reliable. but pre facelift (2016) are the worst when it comes to broken door handles.

you can’t go to Tesla and get them to fix the right blinker? surely they could do that for you! 🙌

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this kind of a review. It’s really interesting to see your take on this. I can’t say I love some of the design choices that were made in this car so I don’t think I would be aspiring to make it my daily driver. Guess I’ll stick to the hybrids for now.

I agree with you on how fun it is to drive. I have the 2022 Model S as my daily driver. To me the model S /plaid design is still the best looking EV on the market. Tesla did add Apple car play on the Christmas update which I truely appreciate. Self drriving is better but not there yet, very stressful to use due to ghost braking and some turns. Tesla does send over the air updates on regular basis to correct faults . For Road trips Tesla's charging infrastructure has the competition beat by far.

You meant Apple Music and not CarPlay right?

@Ali S. yes, Tesla doesn’t have car play yet

Tesla seems to do the software right, but the hardware kinda suffers. I would also prefer physical buttons significantly more over capacitive buttons. I like the concept of the yoke not blocking the dashboard so you can see things better at a glance, that's muscle memory I'd be fine with learning, but having no physical buttons or options to reach over without looking to change simple things I would imagine being frustrating. Stuff to get used to, I guess. Hopefully other manufacturers can improve their software to be just as nice in some cases!

Great review, Marques. I appreciate the distinction you articulated. Automotive youtubers review the looks, the hype, the drive quality. That's one thing. But owning it is a completely different proposition - which is where owner reviews are so helpful. Thanks for creating content that added value

With the car having lots of software it’s almost like a natural progression. Tech reviews require more time with the product, or at least updated reviews of a product as software changes.

Marques, thanks for the review. Spot on and agree with all of your points. I appreciate you bringing up the elements not delivered to date. Steam for the 2021, 200 mph, FSD, etc. Not sure why Tesla is perpetually in this "over promise, under deliver" mentality. If they never mentioned some of these things we would never care, like advanced gaming, but they instead under deliver when they could be "unknown" updates and create a fantastic owner experience. I still love the car and love the satin black wrap with camo touches.

Nice review. The manual frunk wouldnt bother me but I agree and would not like the yoke or its layout or the total absence of buttons. But then, what can you expect for $130000? 🙂 The front edge and mirror wraps looked sharp. Overall awesome car. Thanks.

Note that for the 3 you can get very good auto frunk opener kits so you can solve that quite easily. I opted for compressed gas pistons so the frunk on my 3 does open fully when unlocked but still requires manual closure. Made it a lot more useful and was a 10 minute install that you can do at home on your driveway with only a screwdriver and no technical experience whatsoever.

This is why I like you man...you're honest and to the point as opposed to trying to defend what you own just because you own it. The things you pointed out are why I don't own a Tesla (the fact that it doesn't hold up to other cars in its price range). I appreciate the honest and "real" review.

I think the issue with the 360-view is that the position of the front camera (not being on the front-end) doesn't allow for the proper angles needed for that seamless view simulation.

I actually wish more cars had regular gas struts for the trunks, as well as manual control seats. But I like to keep my vehicles until they die, so it's more about reliability. I'd be way more interested in newer vehicles if there were options that added actual tactile BUTTONS instead of making it impossible to find normal controls in a touchscreen while driving lol

Marques, It would be interesting to see what its like to downgrade now to a mainstream car and to see how far they have come. We all know tesla has been ahead of the curve when it comes to self driving, software, etc, but since this is a car channel, it would be awesome to get your reviews on modern average joe cars capabilities. We all know they are reliable, drive well, get good gas mileage, etc etc. But I have had 2 cars as of late that have smartphone integration, the ability to use their apps and so on (One is an accord and one is a camry). I have many thoughts on them that many "car reviewers" don't cover because they talk about the driving, not the liveability of the UX and UI. Thanks for the videos, keep at it.

If you're talking about electric every day cars he literally talked about it in his previous video- that being about the Chevy Bolt EV and how it's a bargain

@PirmaisČalisPagalmā no I mean real cars real people can buy. Most EV's are hard to get or expensive. Gasoline will exist for a long time, but software moves forward.

@Daniel G Yeah that would be nice if he covered them but, this being a tech related car channel, he mainly focuses on electric cars

That's the problem I have with "Out of spec reviews" - the reviewer focuses solely on the driving aspect completely ignoring all the other features of the car that you'll be using a lot. If you're looking for a car to drive solely for pleasure, then yeah, it's going to be an adequate review, but if you want to know what the car can do in general, you'll going to miss like 70% of what's there.

My moms 2017 Mercedes’ e300 has self driving, lane changing ability, stop and go, heads up display, can park itself, etc. Sadly most American auto manufacturers are just now getting features like that. They aren’t the best. Maybe ten years idk.

Glad that you provided this more user in-dept review of your experience and glad that you are happy with your purchase. Personally, I would never drive a Tesla product due to fit n finish issues, reliability and my personal inability to patiently wait for charge. Heck, when I have to lay on my horn in a pinch, I better be able to find it! lol My Lexus is not currently an EV but when I get dressed in the mornings, I put my key in my pocket and forget about it. I can do everything related to the operation of the car. Even the idea that I have to go fidget with my phone to operate my car would be frustrating for me.

For me, another irritation is the side mirrors are NOT independent. So, when reversing both mirrors angle down which can be a real pain if you're backing into a parking spot and want to keep an eye on oncoming traffic from behind in your left mirror and check the curb distance in your right mirror.

Yeah sounds like a stupid implementation.

Just as a heads-up, you can swipe left or right on the climate control number to quickly change it without having to pull up the climate menu or find the exact right spot for the left/right buttons. But yeah, I completely agree with the need for more physical buttons for easy tactile feedback.

I've had my Model 3 for about a year now and I couldn't be happier with it. It's been an absolute pleasure to drive and the range is more than enough for my daily needs. The autopilot feature is a game-changer, too – it makes my commutes so much more relaxed and enjoyable. Thanks for sharing this great review of the Model S Plaid. It looks like an amazing car, but I'm already in love with my Model 3!

Hope you don't crash using the "autopilot"

@Lykon which is why the drivers are advised to stay alert even when using the autopilot

Nice concise review. It's a bit out of my price range, but a nice looking car. The minimalism is ok with the other drivers console, rather than just the screen. I don't like the models that only have screens. I love the yolk. Probably the biggest thing for me. Reminds me of Knight Rider. I'm in New Zealand and I am seeing more Teslas here, as time passes. I'm actually a bit skeptical of EV.s as an actual green solution. They are not green and they are still very overpriced. That's why I drive a petrol car.

Sir, this is extremely ignorant. EV vehicles are certainly better for the environment opposed to ICE vehicles. However, I can agree with you on the pricing being unfortunate for most of the population.

@Chief Lunar I don't believe it is ignorant. I think you need to study it further, because when you factor in the mining for Lithium, Cobalt and other materials, as well as sources of energy needed to power the grid, they are not exactly "green'. They do obviously produce little or no pollution in the city they are being used in and also lower noise pollution, but overall, taking a birdseye view, they are not a true solution. Not yet anyway. I am interested in the new Salt based battery technology. I'm also interested in Hydrogen. I also think this "war" on the petrol car is over the top, because most petrol cars are very efficient these days. It is also easier to recycle a petrol car, than an EV, because a whole chemical process is needed to recycle the batteries when they eventually decay. I'm not against EV's either. I simply like to weight up the pros and cons. If I had a large solar array (at least 10KW) and the prices came down a bit, I would buy and EV for city driving. I also think nuclear power is the grid solution for a world of EV's, but it is highly debatable whether enough Lithim and Cobalt actually exists in the ground, to produce a world of EV's. I'd guess that the powers that be know this and that's why we are seeing more and more controls against travel. The WEF want 15 min cities. No more freedom of the automobile. Believe me, I want a technological and bright future, but I am not sure we are going to get it. We have psychopathic maniacs in Davos right now, planning the further enslavement of humanity.

Regarding the range discrepancy you're seeing, I noticed your Instrument Cluster shows the 19" Tempest Wheels, which is a 396 Mile EPA Rated Range for the Plaid, but your current car has the 21" Arachnid Wheels equipped. Tesla advertises those with a 348 Mile EPA Rated Range. You can change your car’s configuration to match your actual wheel setup under Settings > Wheel and Tire Settings > 21" Arachnid Wheels. This will update your car’s wheels on the instrument cluster and phone app as well. If you’re getting > 348 miles, you’re beating EPA rated range! Also, if you have factory 21’s, you have Summer Tires. You don’t want to use those under 40 degrees. You’ll want to switch out for an All Season or Winter tire. Running summer tires below 40 degrees can cause compound cracking, and they’re significantly worse in ice / snow.

Somebody’s paying attention! A+

If that degradation is accurate, then it is pretty remarkable. Especially given superchargers are often used to charge that thing as Marcques alluded to in the video.

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Elon?

I cant believe how many noob mistakes r in his video. Makes me question how good is he with tech really.

I have my standard Model 3 for a year now. Yeah there are some minor (at least for me) issues but I just love this car. I can't imagine ever going back to anything else than an

I love my Model 3!

The touch climate controls bothers me too, but I have to admit that 90% of the time (not 99%), leaving it on auto is fine. Also surprised you didn't mention the latency on the app when trying to enable climate remotely - out and about with Sentry Mode on it's not terrible, maybe a few seconds, but at home where Sentry Mode is disabled, I feel like it takes 20-30s for the car to wake up before I can send a climate control command to it.

Thank you for the honest review. Totally agree! Overall it is the best daily driver. Interior looks great compared to all that boring stuff from BMW or Mercedes!

I have a model X plaid and I’m pretty sure any of your gripes would be fixed under warranty. Not that they’ll change the buttons - but they can make sure the steering wheel ones work. Also you can control fan speed on the steering wheel. Tray would be an easy fix too.

I believe the non-powered frunk hood is a safety feature. That way if somehow the latch were to disengage while driving it wouldn't fly up and blind the driver in motion.

For the fan speed try using the "auto" mode and adjust the fan speed with the temperature buttons. Saves you a few clicks to go into the HVAC control screen.

I realize some people like to adjust their air vent direction and fan speed constantly, but I can honestly say that in two years of owning a Model Y, I've set the vents once and I have never used anything other than auto climate mode. It's been absolutely perfect, and I would never go back to traditional vents and manual fan speed control.

Similar to comments above. Also, natural voice commands to adjust HVAC in Tesla are better than most any other car. “a little warmer” “a little cooler” gets it done.

@John Pizer until you have kids... "A LOT HOTTER!! HEE HEE HEE... this is more fun than kicking the back of your seat!"

that's what I do!

Some cars and I'm guessing tesla is one of them, have a brain dead auto mode that doesn't work well, that's why he has to go and do the fan speed manually

The only thing I hate about EV's is the haptics/no button design. With the Plaid, it's the steering wheel as well. If they fixed those in the more sporty models. I would definitely consider buying one.

Two things I have learnt with Tesla coming into the market: 1. Humans get used to bad UI (Yoke, 0 buttons etc) and 2. Tesla answers the questions I have always had about why other manufacturers have manual inputs. Some stuff are better with manual buttons and/or controls. Tesla trying to avoid manual buttons (input errors) will likely lead to non-input external errors.

Considered X and S... the MYP is a lot of fun, way cheaper, I couldn't do the yolk.. suspension isn't great but even 0-60 in 3.5 is wow... enhanced auto pilot is great but FSD does elevate stress... I think the X plaid is our next car with kids.

This needs a re-review! That is to say the new FSD v11, 200mph speeds, and Steam integration. Which makes all promises fulfilled. Also—would love to hear about the wear and tear on the Yoke that I’ve heard about. :3

Awesome review. I appreciate the amount of knowledge you to bring to your videos. Sadly I will never have the money to afford something like this and practically as a daily, does not work for me. I'm not sure what your reach and access you have to future electric vehicles. I came across a company I know very little about known as Canoo. Just wondering about your thought about the possible future of this company. Specifically the pick-up version.  Keep killing these videos!

The phone as a key works so much better than I ever expected. I use it to heat the car and just leave the app open when I'm going to use the car and it's immediate to respond. The charger pad is the perfect design but I do think if phones get much bigger they won't fit(Model 3). My wife loves to use the voice commands for the frunk and trunk and I don't think she's ever used the UI buttons if she's in the car. That works really well too.

Question: What happens when your phone is out of charge, how would you open your car?

@Humaiz Azad you still have your key card or at least you’re supposed to.

@Humaiz Azad Marquess said in the video that you also have a key card or a fob, so you would probably just use one of those.

@Michael Ortega ah cool. Didn't catch that. So if the card is in the wallet, then it would be easy.

@Humaiz Azad you can also have someone like your spouse open it remotely and give you access to drive. That is if you can contact them without your phone.

I've had this for roughly the same amount of time. I'd only make 2 changes - a regular horn and a 360 parking camera. Otherwise, it's damn near perfect.

It’s a time machine The speed you can go without anyone noticing is just faster than anyone be miles You win every light battle every time

Brakes… it needs brakes

@PrettyCoolCat only if you didn’t get the carbon brakes when they came out they work epicly

One of the best reviews of ANYTHING done by ANYBODY ever! Well done! Appreciate your thoroughness, candor, and honesty!

Just found your channel this Christmas, and I really enjoy it. Very good, honest and typical owners perspective review on cars. Keep going!

Thank you for a great and honest review. I really hope that Tesla will upgrade the interior quality with time.

Production quality as always AWESOME ! I am considering getting a tesla and this is really helpful ! Thank you MKBHD.

The funniest part is that buttons to adjust the fan controls just got added back today after they were replaced with the slider last Christmas. I would still love a physical button to control the fan speed even though I can control it by voice (sometimes other people in the car are talking). And the main reason for me to not use auto mode is because the car blows heat right at your face and you can't override it (I prefer legs only for heat). They also added Steam (S and X only) with the recent upgrade, so you can now possibly play those other games you mentioned.

Hm... Maybe my comment got deleted... I got the enhance s3xy buttons from enhauto for that. They also have quite a few other options for driver and passengers.

Only S and X newer than ~February 2022 can use Steam without a hardware upgrade (~$2k, according to president of Tesla Motors Club Michigan), so that would rule out Marques' car

lol yea the holiday update kinda fire

@Muskar he def would have the hardware upgrade

Also Apple Music is added.

Great review. Amazing car. Not perfect, but likely best daily driver for many (who can afford one)

Thanks, really helpfull. Driving a M3P and considering adding this to the garage. May I ask two questions: 1. Does the car has a similar alarm when crossing a line on the road, chiming like this is your final hour? (Sometimes even with a turninglight on ?!) 2.does it also treat you like a baby as well by switching off the AP when you haven’t responded promply three times to the ‘hands on the wheel’ call? Thx and keep up the good work. Best from the NL

I agree with most of the criticisms, except the ones about "why doesn't this feature have a motor?". The Tesla charging network is priceless. If I were buying an EV today, it would be a 3 or a Y. But I've only got 35K on my 10-year-old car, so I don't figure to be shopping anytime soon.

13:30 in my previous S (2018. I now have the plaid as well) you could set the fan speed to be changed with the “wheel” on the steering wheel. It was soooooo much better and something I miss.

Drives me crazy how the S has the cars driving around you in front of you on the small screen instead of on the large screen like the Model Y has on it. Maybe that's just me, but from driving both a few times I feel so much safer seeing the cars around me on the large screen. Agree with all your points though in the video 100%

Put in a service ticket, they will replace your yoke with the latest revision of it. They can even do it mobile service. The yoke has gone through a half dozen or so revisions since the original release and they fixed lots of small quirks/issues like the one you posted.

That is true.

Thank you for the video, very informative, liked it that you are very honest about all aspects, just ordered a model Y for my wife, so worried about controlling everything through screen while she has to drive , hopefully she likes it, we did test drive but she asked me to drive since it wasnt her car and she was worried , I loved it , it was amazing, hope one day have enough money to get Plaid :) , wish you all the best and looking forward to more videos , thanks!

To make the front trunk open automatically just change out the shocks with a little bit stronger ones :)

Appreciate the owner's perspective as that is more valuable to potential new buyers about what the short/long term experience(s) will be like.

Nice review... After test driving 2023 S (no plaid test drive), I fully agree with you on turn signal capacitive buttons (and horn, etc..), just ordered an S Plaid but with ROUND steering wheel... Because, while I can see you have *learned* to use something no one should have to as we all know how to use round steering wheels, in some of your footage 18:02 you are driving dangerously to do so (keeping hands in original position but completely crossed during exit turn... okay given you KNOW how far you have to turn but if a skid occurred or the curve sharpened your crossed arms would collide and you could go no further - not safe). Anyway I'm glad you've learned to live with the yoke and I agree it does look cooler and is fine on a straight road (if you don't have emergency maneuvers) but I only considered the Plaid now because of the availability of a round steering wheel. Also, FYI, I believe now that brake kit and software update to connect the dots is available I've read the car has done 217... Agree with you it may not matter but they promoted the car as 200 mph and it should have been capable under some scenario sooner.

This is the best review I've seen. Gives me the confidence to make the purchase for Model S long range. Thanks for doing it.

I believe service mode will give you a better battery degradation number, the way the range is calculated to 100% is based off a certain number of miles that you drove prior

It would but it’s not available in the FSD build yet.

@stigofdunsfold I have FSD and I can see it, you just have to make sure you are on the latest update!

It is not, the range in miles is calculated the same for all cars and all weather conditions. ONLY the navigation range is calculated based on weather, driving styles, etc...

@Arush Jain  out of spec channel just done a video on this

My only gripe with mine is no Birds Eye view camera, and not being able to schedule when my sentry mode comes on and go off like an overnight schedule. The battery drain running it all day and night is ridiculous, but having the option to schedule it for just running over night would be a game changer.

You should change the wheels to the correct ones on the car in the settings. It’ll give a more accurate mileage estimate.

Good review! There is absolutely no reason for touch if it is a control element that does the same thing all the time. The advantage of touch is that the same control element can do different things. But using it for controls that are doing the same thing the entire lifespan of the car is just wrong.

Hey Mark, Thanks for the great video. Regarding the Yoke steering wheel, please report it to Tesla and get it replaced. i would also mention the other issues. They should fix it. Btw please any idea why there is no way to plan a trip from Tesla’s mobile app and view stats? I am missing those on my TMY. It is a shame that one cannot see without going to the car the whole trip with charging stops included in the app.

Even an original S *sometimes* (well maintained, tinted, etc.) look World class, they got it right the 1st time with exception of details and fake grill. New version one of best looking cars ever.

I really appreciate this long form and also long term after the fact review. It's cool and all to get the latest and greatest review of some new gadget but rarely do we get a review of what happens after the fanfare has worn off and have actually lived with the product for a prolonged period of time. Not to mention actual ownership of it. Thanks dude! 🙂

As a stock holder and pre-orderer of a cybertruck, as well as a twitterverse hellscape survivor, I completely agree.

@Prim but not proper i wonder if the cybertruck will become "duke nukem whenever"....

that part!

@kyoko703 I have no problem buying the DeLorean of Pickemup Trucks.

@Prim but not proper The real question is when will the cybertruck be released...

Great video. My mate has one of the early models and I couldn't believe there wasn't any cup holders in the rear doors

I own one. Agreed on the buttons on the wheel with the exception, I really like the turn signals. Interior build quality could be so much better!!!! 360 view would be amazing. Yoke is great!!!!! Driving experience is amazing. Wish I could get the brakes!!

I got the ev6 AWD and it is such a good package. Last week I drove 380 km with 5 degree Celsius weather. Yes it is an kia but they did an great job with it and with 7 year guarantee is just really good. Beside that it is different without being to different and it just makes alot of sense.

The thing about buttons is that they add cost that can be avoided and somewhat limit what you can do with future software updates linked to those buttons.

I know, what a boomer. Buttons are old school. Image wanting the fingerprint button back on your iPhone 🤣 I’m surprised he didn’t even mention one of the coolest features of Tesla’s… you can press the right scroll wheel and tell the microphone virtually anything you want, and it even learns and gets smarter over time. For example, in this video he complains about changing the fan speed or A/C temperature while driving. You can just press the button and say “set the temperature to 68 degrees” or “set fan speed to max” which is way more convenient and safer

Great review. Personally, the indicator buttons would be a complete deal breaker if I could afford this car. An indicator is just such a common thing to use, that I’d go nuts if it doesn’t work half the time. Obviously there are a lot of very nice things in this car. But to each their own.

this and the lack of other physical controls would be a complete no go for me. that said, i'm not going to ever be able to afford one 😁

You must not be a BMW driver, bless your heart!

@Pluto is a Planet Most people are not.

@Pluto is a Planet no. I used to be, but right now I drive a 2019 Audi e-tron after a 6 month stint with a Tesla Model Y, which I loved until it started phantom braking 2-3 times per 20 minutes on highways. It became very dangerous, and Tesla service would only see me 3 months after I reported it. I like some aspects of Teslas a lot. But others are deal breakers. The fact that Tesla does listen to their customers sometimes (see update to last Christmas UI change that buried the climate controls one level deeper and was later reverted back), but obstinately doesn’t at other times (see buttons in steering wheel of Model S and X instead of stalks), is a stubborn streak on dangerous items that will ensure I won’t ever buy one again (unless they change their approach dramatically.

You can always use the speech feature to change the fan speed. I personally would hate it if there were real buttons just for climate.

I agree on everything you said. The haptic turn signals are really dumb and the fact that they are glitchy and don't work a lot of the time just makes it worse. The haptic horn is even worse and an actual safety hazard. Really really dumb. I also agree the front trunk should be automatic as a standard feature for this price level. Automatic back seats would be nice too, but not as important as the aforementioned issues.

The fan speed control slider was truly infuriating, good thing in the latest update you tap a button to control speed now instead of fiddling with a slider

Do people fiddle that much with the fan speed though?

One of your complaints about fan speed specifically: just put it on Auto. I always have mine on Auto and it just regulates the temperature. So unless you want to move the airflow, or change the temp itself, the rest is done for you.

Very succinct, measured and informative review! Much appreciated

Awesome review. Agreed, stalks and a conventional horn are missed. My next car will be a Tesla.

So yeah I am not spending that kinda money on a car. But… a lot of what you said about the S applies to my “poor man’s Tesla” as well. Tech, responsiveness, software, updates, Supercharger network, responsiveness (ok, not the accel specs), and overall ease of use and ownership… my 2021 Model 3 SR+ has those features. At less than ⅓ the price. If I was in the market for a replacement EV today (and I know oh so much more about EVs now than 2 years ago!), it’d be a no brainer: Tesla. Great review! You got all the plusses and minuses.

The most trusted tech man in America! I always look forward to your highly informative and entertaining videos.

The speech recognition on the MS is fantastic, you virtually don’t need to touch the screen to change fan speed, temperature, windshield wiper speed, defroster/defogger, cooling/heating seats — try it

A cool, honest overview. Seems like there is a promising opportunity for aftermarket car enhancers and tuners in terms of implementing physical controls.

Aftermarket on a 130k car... Damn

Surely, in this day and age [Apple, John Deere, etc..are all going down the same route] and being able to 'tune' would be restricted/forbidden....given that it's software and not mechanical that you are dealing with. (?) Admittedly 'mapping' is software tuning. Don't hate....the noob(me).

Unfotunately, interfering with the car this way would probably void the warranty, but in Teslas case it might be even worse, since the car can be banned from the supercharger network or something.

heck from what I heard about Tesla actively detuning cars unless you pay, I have no doubt aftermarket or software tampering would void the warranty.

As far as HVAC controls go: personally I almost never touch them. Instead, I use the voice response and tell Tessie what I want it to do. EG: "Set fan speed to 4" or "I'm, cold" or "I'm hot" or "Set Temperature to 74", etc. etc.

Thanks for your unbiased, informative and insightful reviews.

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my dad has a 2020 model 3 and one of the things we got was "auto" opening hydraulics for the front and rear which Is really just a spring that creates enough force to open it when you open it which is nice, so it will auto open but, like you said it is not powered so you do still have to close it manually.

I love early model s. Still has stalks, and more buttons, more traditional door handle etc. Less range, charges slowerr and slightly worse tech.. but they are great still!

You did a phenomenal job of answering all questions. Great comprehensive review of Tesla S Plaid

I appreciate that you talked about the yoke. In concept, if no other things changed, I'm fine with a yoke. It would be weird to use for like a week, but I'd get used to it. 100% in the same boat with the damned capacitive buttons for all your critical features. Turn signals are a SAFETY FEATURE, and need to be reliable. Same with the horn Wipers and lights? Fine, make them "usually" automatic, one less thing to fiddle with when I need to. What about cases when, like in PA, you have to use headlights in work zones, when it rains, etc? Let's not forget that "automatic" != "reliable"

I think they missed the point of the yoke by not tightening the ratio down to one turn lock to lock. Like the airplane controls that inspired it, the whole advantage of a yoke is never having to reposition your hands, which can only work if you limit travel to 180° in each direction. It's drive by wire electric steering so it would be trivial to implement with a speed sensitive variable ratio, which would be a lot easier to get used to.

My main issue that I think I would have with the yoke is not being able to just let the wheel auto return to a straight position after turning. For example in any car right now when I take a turn I release pressure on the steering wheel and let it slide through my and and control the speed at which this happens by the amount of clamping pressure I keep on the wheel. You would not be able to do this at all with a yoke since the entire top half of the wheel is gone. I think it would be extremely annoying to always have to lift my hand over each other just to make a turn and is not something I can see myself ever getting used to purely because it's a less efficient way of driving to me.

I’d rather use =/=

@West Coast Wheelman that’s kinda why they do that in race cars too, you rarely see them turn the wheel past 180 except for maybe the Monaco hairpin for example.

@West Coast Wheelman I don’t think Tesla has steer by wire yet. I got confused and looked it up just now, I see a bunch of articles speculating Tesla will do that, and one Lexus production car that is going to have it. I personally think steer by wire is not a good idea, (break by wire too). There should be mechanical backups for safety critical systems.

The yoke steering wheel would work better if Elon made the ratio of turning radius with the wheel tighter. Full lock should only have you turn the yoke vertical. It may be a more sensitive steering and harder to get used to but Elon is reinventing everything, so maybe that would set the standard for future steering racks.

The automatic doorhandles are actually quite robust. Only heard few cases of failure

Let’s hope with the steering wheel option, the horn actually works like a horn now

This was a very good and very fair review, keep up the good work!

drove a Plaid for the first time last week - what an awesome car! a normal steering wheel would be great though.

Tesla just added a round wheel, but imo, the yoke is cooler

I got a Model 3 Performance and really love it, this one is awesome but obviously way out of the budget. The dream car is definitely the new roadster though. Also, I recommend leaving your hvac on auto, with the new holiday update you can choose between low medium and high, makes it easier and is much more efficient. Hated it at first but got used to it and it’s way better.

I have a Plaid and it was rated at 348 miles at 100% when I took delivery. How on earth do you have so much more than that?

Some corrections to the video. Top speed is 175 in track mode(people have got it up to 218 mph by removing the limiter). You can control most things with the voice controls, so you are not required to take your eyes off the road to adjust things. If you want to do something on the screen, you can let auto-pilot take over... You can now play games from Steam if you have a 2022 or 2023 Plaid, which MQB and I don't, so that feels like false advertising. The rest of the video is spot on!

Also, I thought that the range is affected by the cold weather. When is spring or early summer, the range miles should increase a little

I'm also a Plaid S owner and just passed 30k miles. My turn signal buttons with well. Your's sounds broken. Also the horn button is great. Just put your while hand over the general area to get a rapid fire horn. Best hown I've heard. My biggest issue is how quickly I go through tires.

Sure they're quick off the line, but the other day a model S plaid was frustrated at me and tried to pass, so I floored it just to mess with him and he couldn't get past me. We were going about 25 mph when the feud started. Maybe there was some setting he didn't switch to, I don't know, but I was surprised my audi s8 won the battle. (I wasn't in sports mode either). He had no problem mashing the horn button when I finally turned left to go into my neighborhood. I know they struggle to accelerate as the initial speed increases, I leased a p90D for 3 years. Gotta say though, I expected more from the plaid.

I drive a Model Y. Usually it’s guys driving big pickup trucks that try to hassle me.

This is how I feel about our Model Y Performance. it's not perfect, it can be annoying, but it's also the best car I have ever own, fast as hell, and insanely fun to drive. Autopilot is great, but tends to brake too hard in heavy traffic, but overall. it's a great car, that definitely isn't for everyone yet.

well said.

so you went from an econobox to a tesla...