Check out the runners who helped make this video possible! AndrewG: https://www.twitch.tv/andrewg Kosmic: https://www.twitch.tv/kosmic Kriller: https://www.twitch.tv/kriller37 Mav6771: https://www.twitch.tv/mav6771 Miniland: https://www.twitch.tv/miniland333 StuckInAPlate: https://www.twitch.tv/stuckinaplate

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@@SpiritNBA ok

Amazing

Wow, not right after the video was released. Surprising.

no niftski here? edit: miniland is here but i don’t remember seeing him once, SS probably just mixed them up

Watching any of these videos with some nice snacks, something to drink and just laying down is on my top favorite things to do.

Same I love this channel!

woah its the glitchtale person

Its good to listen to even if you don't know half of what he's talking about. (also didn't expect to see camilla here of all places)

@@jsaucemapping7107 The glitchtale person Damn

Good to see you again.

Update: Lekukie and Niftski have achieved a frame-perfect 8-4, meaning that humans have finally reached perfection in Super Mario Bros.!

The only thing left, is a frame perfect speedrun of the game.

@@galfinsp7216 Yes

@@galfinsp7216 I don't see that happening though, but who knows.

@@mottdropsie give it a few more years trust me.

@@mottdropsie as “impossible” as it seems. It’s the only way from here to go.

I think my favorite progression in these stories is always the slow transition from “impossible for humans to achieve” to “regarded as impossible for humans” to “being attempted by top runners” to “it was finally achieved by”

Last step being "common/necessary in top runs"

@@Heydelios I've seen another step where it becomes the suboptimal strategy and is eventually replaced by another technique ranging from exactly 0 frames better to several hours off the record compared to previous methods' best times, depending on the game. Speedrunners are determined. In a few more decades they'll be beating games before they're even ideas in the creator's mind. "How is exactly 0 frames an improvement?" Because the other method requires less effort or training to learn/execute. Getting the same completion time for less button presses *IS* an improvement, even if it isn't applicable to the leaderboards.

​@@techstuff9198No hate, love how you asked a question to yourself and answered

@@theblinkingbrownie4654 I was prepared with an answer to a question I predicted others would ask. A simple and often forgotten technique.

​@@techstuff9198so called "rhetorical question"

Just imagine the pain Mario's balls go through with every flagpole glitch

lmfao

R/TIHI

My man have the balls of titanium if he is still alive

Mario: (after pulling off a flagpole glitch) "MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..."

So that's why he's so quick off that pole

When I hear "impossible" "too precise" or "too difficult for a human" in the speedrunning community I end up translating it to "give us a bit we'll figure it out"

In my mind “TAS-only” and “Too precise to do humanly” are both just “not feasible for a human being to preform”

ur not s speedrunner whyd u ssy "give us. but"

@@VccTn its just a quirk of english, i dont know the name of it, but when you use words like "we" or "us", it isnt clear if it includes the person being spoken to. (i.e "we just won the lottery", its unclear if the speaker is referring to themself and others or themself and you, the listener)

@@VccTnI don’t think you should be correcting people’s english out of all people

⁠@@VccTnhow would you know they don’t run. Zero indication of that. Also rich you’re correcting someone’s grammar when you can’t even type to begin with And lastly it’s speaking third hand, as in - from someone that is being spoken about - Salt saying it’s not possible, and one of the runners musingly just asking for some time Imagine incorrectly critiquing someone’s joke

The community: That's completely impossible. The community: Fine, I'll do it myself!

Real 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳

Community : We are streets ahead

Glad this is about the human limit and not the human element

Yeah lol

the human element would be an interesting video doe

what's up checkmark

@@markgrace3190 no it’s Todd Togers

Update for all wondering: the perfect run for the last level has been achieved

How do I find it

I niftnistki yt channel

I admire this man's ability to turn 2.75 seconds into the 45 minute long hero's journey that it is

Niftski has tied the Any% TAS into 8-4 in his WR today!

I saw that and decided to rewatch this haha

Same!

Absolute madness

Wild

Maybe the real perfect 8-4 run was the friends we made along the way.

no, the real perfect 8-4 is what lekukie did earlier this week

The *frames we made along the way

What is this friends thing

@@GorGob a joke on going on an adventure that seems to have no reward at the end

@@codysmith8639 The frames we lost along the way

The line "After half a decade of this, the super mario bros community had made one thing very clear: Nothing was Impossible" feels both inspirational and somewhat wholesome.

This video is fantastic to watch on repeat when going to sleep. Done it for a week now.

Maybe you could do a salt playlist 🧐😁😁

@@FinleyR234 You know what? i got you bro, i have it up rn, it's from newest to oldest btw

@@Spectator9672 I love you

@@Spectator9672 what a guy thank you

Damn, how longs it take you to fall asleep?

For anyone late to this video like me, 8-4 was run perfectly by two runners over a year and a half ago. The wr as of 4 days ago was tied with the TAS up until 8-4. Humans are 22 frames away from Any% perfection.

It’s kinda insane to think a human could feasibly beat a game the fastest way possible. You always think to yourself, “i wonder when the world record will be beaten next”

​@@KraZTheKidwhen the goat nifstky coms back to the categorie

And now nifski has done almost all of this i a full run, only missing lightning 4-2 and a few frames here and there in 8-4. These guys are absolute legends

I guess we might end up with another video!

Just give him some time. It will be done.

Update to this video: 1. 8.4 had been fully completed down to the frame 2. Nobody has been able to put these all of the levels together for a perfect run 3. Niftski holds the current record with a time of 4.54.798 and he’s had it for almost a year 4. The community still continues to this day to get the time lower and lower

Sub 4:55 is crazy. Was he the first?

Where can I keep up with this?

Niftski just lowered the record again!!!

@@welovefootball3388 That’s wild!

Update !!!!

Pessimists: "There's no such thing as perfection!" The entire Super Mario Bros speedrunning community: "LMAO bet"

The entire SMB community: smell like Doritos and when combined weigh as much as the Moon

@@wallacesousuke1433 Doritos sure... but the runners in the video at least look rather thin

@@wallacesousuke1433 speed runners have frame perfect skips to burn calories

Still kind of hilarious that running this game is so optimized that being over "a tenth of a second ahead of anyone else on the leaderboard" is "pure domination"

"By 2026, players had learned that subpixels were well too large a gap, and many had taken to direct manipulation of the electrons in the wire that connected the controller to the console to save two millionths of a second. This was it. Humans had reached the limit of how fast Super Mario Bros could be played according to Einstein's estimates of the limit of light speed." "...but then..."

Unsurprisingly, some players decided to play the game with chips made up of ybco superconductors, thereby manipulating the flux pinning of the magnetic field, so as to direct the electrons toward the right bus of the system through quantum tunnelling, causing a stream of parallel muons and anti muons perpendicular to the electron stream and thereby shifting mario by the order of some trillion plank lengths in only some billion plank-seconds, thus saving the right time to reach perfection

@Alastair Valyocsik in the year 20XX

Speedrunning the original Super Mario Bros leads to the invention of FTL? After seeing this video, I wouldn't be surprised at all!

@@somenamelastnaammee52 But then... He woke up from his dream and realized that the tas has already been tied.

I don't know why, but Niftski's reaction to getting the 4-2 framerule save at 29:28 makes me tear up a bit

I beat this game in 4:53.98 last week

Did someone know the song that is in that minute?

Home - 4 is the song

No it doesn't......

"This time would undeniably remain out of reach forever. That is, until - one day - it wasn't anymore." Gives me chills every time.

cringe

nah@@VccTn

can't wait to see the 3 hour full length documentary of smb when we finally get to a frame perfect run

Starring Kosmic and AndrewG and others

Your videos would be SUCH hype to watch with a live chat, you should definitely try to hype the next one up and make it a premiere so you have an audience cheering and watching it the moment it comes out.

He premiers all of them live at twitch.tv/summoningsalt

why you wanna pay for it so badly. just enjoy it

@@aeiouaeiouaeiou …. What? Twitch is free lol

​@@aeiouaeiouaeiouits free dude

Doesn't matter if you're interested in speed running from before, these videos are so well put together they're a must watch

Over a year, thousands of hours, pain, triumph, happiness, depression. Months and months of work. To get 3 seconds of screentime in a summoning salt video... my life is complete.

Hey tree

yo man we know youre one of the only 4-2 frame rule champs - youre a legend bro

You are a king.

much praise!

I wrote a long long comment on my channel I upload stuff on with you in it. You’re a madman tree, I hope you continue to play the game

(0:00) HOME - We’re Finally Landing (1:29) Prism Age - Plural (3:03) Prism Age - Ivresse (5:10) Stevia Sphere - Misplaced My Keys (6:17) Henrik Jonsson - As Darkness Falls (8:03) C418 - Beton (10:26) Patricia Taxxon - Retrograde (16:03) HOME - Hurricane Season Intro (17:42) Chris Doerksen - First Light (19:26) Color Index - Intervals (20:20) HOME - Still Life (21:52) Patricia Taxxon - Rave (23:07) HOME - Abandon Planet (23:58) HOME - Byzantium (25:54) Patricia Taxxon - Cicada 2 (26:57) Stevia Sphere - Misplaced My Keys (29:06) HOME - 4 (30:06) TheOfficialLobst - Cosmos (32:32) Chris Doerksen - Night Running (34:05) TheOfficialLobst - Andromeda (35:44) Patricia Taxxon - Wavetable (37:41) Henrik Jonsson - As Darkness Falls (38:46) TheOfficialLobst - Interdimensional (40:18) Patricia Taxxon - Liftoff (42:44) TheOfficialLobst - Cosmos (43:54) HOME - We’re Finally Landing

thanks

Ok

Ok

Thanks

Ok

Update : niftski has tied tas until 8-4 in his new WR !

Can't wait for summoning salt to cover this

FINALLY BEATEN, FRAME PERFECT RUN IS ALL THAT’S LEFT

Was never even into speed running until I watched you. Glad you make this type of content cause I bet you probably inspired so many new speed runners to pick up the controller

I'm not good enough to Speedrun anything, but I'm fascinated with the tricks people come up with.

man, even just organizing and cataloging all this information seems like a superhuman feat

My favorite part about summoning salt is how he’ll be talking about how someone made an extremely important discovery and then their name is something like “420_blazit” or something.

"Then, out of nowhere, a new glitch was found by a small channel by the name of BigDickDuncan"

_Dr. PeePee_

@@thatoneguy9582 Dude I was gonna say that! The EmpLemon video

If I accomplish something, I want my name to be stupid.

More speedrunners / routers need to be like our hero, xx_420_blazit_xx

This music and introduction to every one of these videos makes these achievments seem so monumental and groundbreaking - Amazing

The frame rule existing is one of the best things in this speed run, making "perfection" seem attainable

This literally made me tear up. I love video games. I love the human condition. I could never have imagined this was the future of Mario, as a little kid at my grandmas just gaming away.

Coming back to this after watching niftskis run is so eye opening like how did he do that all in one run

My friend always told me he hit the flag and it didn't come down but he still beat the level. I always thought he was BSing me. Guess I was wrong. Sorry Brett.

We're at the point where speedrunners are gonna start playing during solar storms in hopes of having a beneficial bit flip.

Are you sure?

@@kylebeguhl8516 yes very Some people are way too dedicated for their own good...

damn this one got me

I’m gonna get that tick tock clock up warp bounty any day now

Speedrunners on the other side of the galaxy: HOLY CRAP A .1 FRAME DIFFERENCE IM SO GOOD Seriously though, they are way too serious and I love it XD

I love finding music through documentaries, and I always try to remember the tracks as more than "that song from The Civil War." I can never manage it with Ashokan Farewell, and I can never manage it with We're Finally Landing. You have created something so profoundly inspiring with these docs, and I implore you to never forget it.

Okay but why was this the most uplifting and motivational video I've ever watched?!

Its because it shows what happens when people work together. When everyone puts in there own bit of effort to show what can be done. To the people researching to prove the concept. To those capable putting on the effort to realise it. Its an encapulation of exactly what humanity can, and should be.

OMFG Niftski just did it 3 days ago ! I'm about to cry... He've done 4.54s 631 ! What a run

I love how all your videos boil down to "it was impossible...but then this guy did it" And you still make it entertaining regardless lol, that's skill

Moral of the story: Nothing is TAS only if someone is willing to grind it out.

I laughed a lot when he said “he actually had 1 frame of wiggle room” like woah mans could’ve took a vacation in that

Lol ikr

Those .02 seconds are real useful

also great word choise with "wiggle room" haha, wiggle means going back and forth, that's literally impossible to do in 1 frame LMAO

I mean, it is literally twice the amount of time.

If Shigeru Miyamoto knows about this, it makes me wonder what his thoughts are on the fact his little plumber boy can go this fast.

I’m not really into video games but I am extremely impressed by the problem-solving, agility, and precision skills that these gamers wield!! 10/10 video!

I know my old history teacher in 11th grade once broke out his NES and bet us all that he could beat the game for us in under 10 minutes, and our little teenage minds were blown when he beat it in 8 minutes. Speed running is awesome.

Always funny seeing the differences in time scales between these games. In a game like LEGO Star Wars, we were talking minutes in terms of time saves and new tricks discovered. But for this, it’s literally 1-2 frames that separates a WR from the rest

Im honest, this is probably my favorite video on YouTube. Not just video essay. Favorite in general. I find myself coming back to it once a month or so

"He was more than a tenth of a second ahead of anybody else on the leaderboard, pure domination." Jesus Christ, we're in too deep

He could make paint drying entertaining. I was like sweating on the toilet watching this 😅 his voice is so relaxing and the videos are edited to perfection. Summoning salt speed runned into my heart.

A tenth of a second a lot of tkm when we're talking about frames here. It's hard to save a second on anything

I was about to post a similar comment but then I was this

when 4 minutes is already short in a game like SMB1, yeah lol

Lol

Lekukie, SMB1 speedrunner at large, just tied the TAS in 8-4! The human SOB is now tied with the TAS!

The chad LeKukie

Alpha male behavior

Oh lekuki was first I thought it was niftsiski

Wouldn't count it since in all likelihood he cheated it

That buildup and drop at 29:06-29:28 have me CHILLS

This is all extremely interesting and cool, but part of me can't help smiling when the intense music plays over the video of a little jumpy guy

Absolutely love summoning videos, but this video is a whole mother level. It’s literally a masterpiece, and gives me hope in humanity even if that seems strange.

tell me why it brought a tear to my eye to see niftski's big reaction taking off .02 seconds. The dedication to push just 1 frame forardd and yet the monumeental accomplihmeeeent in doing so is astounding

Ditto, btw someone perfected it 5 days ago.

Your dedication to covering these speedruns is inspirational. So glad a channel like this exists.

Present day Present time

Lauderdale is a cool last name

I wouldnt say inspirational lol

I get goosebumps every time I watch your videos cuz they’re so well made

It's insane how a game from the 80's has such longevity

i’ve watched so many ads in this because i watched all of it straight in one sitting lol this was WAYYYY too interesting to not see in one sitting great video, love it

Duuuude this shit's insane. I had goosebumps all over my body at the end as they were lowering the frames. Also, perfectly fitting music, bro.

2 days ago, niftski broke the record. We are now 1 frame away from perfection.

Fr

The sum of best has been perfection for 6 months

That's his 4:54:798 wr not the sob. Lekukie achieved the perfect 8-4 6 months ago which means we have reached perfection

Imagine holding an any% world record for years and getting beaten by some guy by 1 frame

LOL.....1 FRAME??!!.....that's so messed up 😆

probably happens a lot in highly optimised games.

Welcome to trackmania

Then you have to beat them by 2 frames to assert dominance

@@evox6878 FRFR

Update: Niftski has the game tied to the TAS in 2 runs now, which may be the closest any speedrunner has gotten to perfection in any game ever!!!

I still don't think speedrunning is a sport, but you know piano is not a sport and the level of skill is insane (and musicians do competitions too). I think it's just a new category of activity. One thing for sure: as I am being made aware of this discipline by awesome channels like Summoning Salt and Karl Jobst, I gain an immense respect for the level of skill and the amount of grind that those guys have. Really amazing!

this is probably the only game that humans have pushed to it's absolute limits

12:48 can we just appreciate those 4 skillful and smooth jumps up those bricktowers? It looks sooo satisfying😌

This video made me a fan of this channel and I still love how you make it so easy for us to get so invested in the runners and games even if we hadn't even hear of any of this before. Great work! Keep it coming.

"He actually had a frame of wiggle room", now that's a ridiculous sentence.

it's literally impossible to wiggle within a single frame, so yeah

@@lydiasteinebendiksen4269 it is possible though, a minuscule 1 frame wiggle but a wiggle nonetheless. Would be impossible if it was a 0 frame wiggle.

"We have reached the human limit of the frame perfect wiggle" should be the next SS vid

@@lapidations aka subpixel wiggle room ez enough

It is. Like how causally he says you have 1 frame wiggle time is nuts.

this is one of the best videos to rewatch its amazing to see how the comunity came together to create the perfect run even tho it was impossible to get it in a real game because no human could achive such a thing even then its just amazing that everyone worked together to somewhat create the perfect run and this is the reason i love this video

Я прослезился на концовке. Это великолепно

I'm declaring it right now, this speed run could never be improved. *summoning salt is summoned* "But he was wrong"

i watch this video over and over and over. i never get sick of it. summoningsalt, youre a master of your craft

this song, the video, the vibes you get in every single word you say, it gets me super hyped, with a nostalgia taste and, not giving up on my own, i love every single part of the video, thanks...😢

"he was 10milliseconds faster than anyone else. Total domination"

Summoning Salt does videos about speed running, but the release time on his videos are the antithesis of speed

@@dahleno2014 If you're going to keep leaving hate comments, go do that somewhere else.

@@dahleno2014 bro ive looked everywhere, do you know where the person who asked is

@@dahleno2014 Shows the effort, doesn't it? Truly, they are masterpieces.

Would be interesting to know what the game developers think of this. So damn close. I believe one day will break it.

Seeing this video and how much passion and patience some people are putting in to achieving perfection in this game, I think there will be the day, when somebody draws level with the TAS time.

Everyone knows Mario is cool as fuck. But who knows what he's thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance. I believe it was Kant who said "Experience without theory is blind, but theory without experience is mere intellectual play." Mario exhibits experience by crushing turts all day, but he exhibits theory by stating "Lets-a go!" Keep it up, baby! When Mario leaves his place of safety to stomp a turty, he knows that he may Die. And yet, for a man who can purchase lives with money, a life becomes a mere store of value. A tax that can be paid for, much as a rich man feels any law with a fine is a price. We think of Mario as a hero,but he is simply a one percenter of a more privileged variety. The lifekind. Perchance.

Major respect to these kids speedrunning these old games

Truly, one of your best. You had a lot to work with, and you really nailed it. Bravo, Mr. Salt.

“He was more than a tenth of a second ahead of anyone else on the leaderboard. Pure domination” is such a testament to how optimised this speedrun is.

Fr

Ikr

After 36 years it was bound to be optimized.

@@honkhill1355 I doubt anyone expected it to be optimized to the point where every frame matters in one way or another Still, it's an incredible display of skill

@@unnoticed4571 You are right, though even if it wasn't this frame optimized it would still look insane being just a few second behind a TAS. People worked very hard to get here and the results are impressive.

Humans really be getting excited over being a fraction of a second faster than another human in a video game, and I'm all for it!

Honestly one of the best videos on the platform. Thank you for this masterpiece.

Absolutely amazing! Mind blown. I can not imagine the felling of getting a record on a game that every gamer has played.

update: a perfect-through-8-3 speedrun has been achieved. 22 frames remain. https://youtu.be/Khu9BB2g4Ks?si=Z-bEK_JWX8jnrgTo

By the end, when they were getting closer and closer, I found myself cheering them on! "Cmon! You can do it!" Sometimes it's just awe inspiring to see what humans can do.

There's so much that goes into speedrunning this game, that I have nothing but respect to the people who keep trying to break past the human limits

Here before your clones I see.

Yo!

In speed runs like these every last second matters.

I haven’t seen you in so long

Why do I see you everywhere

given how close humans have come to matching TAS in the last 2 yrs i feel like this vid may need a sequel

this is highkey the best channel to sleep to, you my Mr Sandman summoning salt, one of these days I'll finish a video I swear

I love watching these vids and seeing how amazing humans can be. Props to the work of all those who worked to get us here.

Even after 2 years, this video represents the SMB1 speedrun so well.

I don't know if people really appreciate how amazing these players are... This is skill on par with Olympic medal winners!

Yes

Some people don't appreciate it though

@@BreadAckerman yep. BTW, adorable profile picture!

In the mushroom kingdom, "TAS only" is slang for "To-do list".

Which quickly becomes a synonym of "hold my beer".

EXACTLY

To accomplish someday

@@Zenheizer this is the best one

You can't press L+R at the same time, so TAS only is still valid.

You do such good work, Summoning Salt. I always can’t wait for your next video

That music during the montage of people doing the impossible bit by bit fills me with such motivation, pride and admiration. I cannot accurately describe it.

i just watched a 44 minute documentary on super mario bros speedrunning and i have no regrets

I can't tell you how perfect the intro music is. That alone make sme want to watch this with anticipation. Thank you for your work. Amazing.

I could never break the 5 minute barrier in the 90's, and even then people would marvel at how I was beating it in 5 minutes and 2 or 3 seconds.

"A frame of wiggle room" is the most Speedrunner-esque line I've ever heard.

How gracious of the game

Definitely, I like it lol

It comes to a point where you dont even think about it anymore lol. You're just like "oh I guess this is just free now"

I did a speed run of level one back around '89 when I had never heard the phrase. I was just bored and decided to show off in front of my mom. I left Mario setting at his spawn point until the timer was almost out of time. Then I blasted to the castle.

I love how he says « Us, humans… » and im sitting here with hours of play from my childhood without a single complete play through