STRANGER THINGS Season 4 Volume 2 Ending Explained

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What did you think of Stranger Things Season 4 Volume 2? Comment your thoughts below!

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Tayboy 4 Life
Tayboy 4 Life

@Andria Sakhvadze of course no problem!

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Andria Sakhvadze
Andria Sakhvadze

​@Tayboy 4 Life I'm happy that there is someone that shares an opinion with me! Thank You for replying!

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dawn smythe
dawn smythe

@KidBoss_YT agreed

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Jockson
Jockson

Everyone out here is concerned about the ending, but I wanna know where the hell Antolov and Yuri went

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Tiana Pi Tesr
Tiana Pi Tesr

🌈💎

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AA-VFX
AA-VFX

I'm pretty shocked. Waiting for season 5. My brain is exploding 🤯 No sleep for me tonight!

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T. S.
T. S.

Waiting for another 2 years that sucks a lot!!!!!

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Will Brown
Will Brown

(John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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Logan Cadle
Logan Cadle

Facts

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Axicz
Axicz

@SFS Airlines yeah 😇

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Plastic String
Plastic String

To me, it looks like the ending scenes were a bit rushed. It would have been good to see Hopper farewell to Enzo and Yuri. Also his return to Hawkins seemed rushed somehow, we didn't see the reaction of any of the characters when he arrives except for 11, and considering everyone thought he was dead that's pretty strange. We didn't see anyone of the main characters mourning for Eddie except Dustin, and we didn't see any more Dr. Owens.

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Goyam Jain
Goyam Jain

Soo true!! This was exactly my thought

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MAGAVELLI
MAGAVELLI

@dzo A ppace for eleven to hide for the time being prob

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MAGAVELLI
MAGAVELLI

@BEYOND THE UNIVERSE That would've been EPIC if it was a 5 hour episode! I domt get why ppl domt like long shows or movies if its GOOD. I never want it to end, cmon 2 more hours of that wouldve been sick i want to know how it opened a 2md time at the end but i think its bc hes in Max sp that's why its technically still open at the end or she passed.... idk

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MAGAVELLI
MAGAVELLI

@Algo Rithme they just do that in movies to show everything that was going on bit technically at the same time

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DL SWYER
DL SWYER

@Molly Hart couldn’t agree more ending was very rushed

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Luvv Sushi
Luvv Sushi

As sad as it is seeing Eddie’s death only be shown through Dustin and him still being seen as the murderer, I’m glad he went out the way he did. A hero

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fey
fey

@Empath Opinion totally agree with you

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Amanda Hallman
Amanda Hallman

I felt like Eddie was being protective of Dustin when he cut the rope (of bedsheets) bc he knew Dustin would attempt to come back for him. Also, Eddie said he was “buying more time” for the rest of the crew. But I’ll admit, when he stopped climbing the rope and took that moment to pause & look back…I shouted “Go!” Like why would you stop or waste ANY time when you’re being chased by demobats!? Lol now I know why, but it shocked me at the time 🫢. RIP Eddie Munson

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Luna300
Luna300

@Andrew Phillips Stayed in hiding or would've been arrested for a murder he didn't commit. I rather have him come back next season, but it's the last one, so hopefully his reputation will be repaired somehow.

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Nate
Nate

When Steve was talking to Robin while watching everyone playing it reminded me of the Ka-Shume the Tet was feeling before taking down the Breakers. Doubt it’s coincidence that Eddie died the next day in both given the influence Stephen King has over the show.

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Maameelle78
Maameelle78

They may fight to clear his name in s5

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hamza souida
hamza souida

Eddie's character was written so beautifully, many are upset that he will never be recognised as a hero but that's for me what makes him even more of a hero, a hero does not seek recognition people may hate him or love him but he'll still do what is right.

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TekkaSage
TekkaSage

His death and character build up was done beautifully. So far the whole series has high rewatchability. After being burned by Game of Thrones being rushed to an end cause D&D was bored and horrible writers I really hope the duff brothers can end this series right.

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Selena Herrera
Selena Herrera

Yess couldn’t have said it more perfectly 👏👏

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bigcrackrock
bigcrackrock

This season cheapened death to the point where I hardly even consider him dead. First with Hopper coming back and then with so many others looking like they were on the brink of death at the end only to be saved at some capacity last second. If he came back or any past characters next season it wouldn't be surprising with Eleven's new ability.

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Account Not Used Anymore
Account Not Used Anymore

“Not all heroes wear capes” Eddie will always have my respect

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Nia Łong
Nia Łong

& that’s what made him a true hero !! I love him already was so sad when he died , but so happy he was brave enough to try & fight back this time ; true character

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Miguel Dorado
Miguel Dorado

Why does everyone forget that Brenner said that he “consumes” people? It seems pretty clear that he still has the memories and people inside him and if Vecna killed Max then Vecna has her memories and mind

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MAGAVELLI
MAGAVELLI

@EditingLily Or hes in Max and they have to get him out like they did will, I think that's why the Gates opened up at the very end. I dont think they woupdve had her pass right at the end to confirm the gate hes in her that's why el cant find her (I think)

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Mophead
Mophead

nobody forgets it, its one of the bigger details lmao

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TekkaSage
TekkaSage

I think she will come out of the coma once they defeat Vecna. Will be one of the reuniting scenes at the end of the show.

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Piotr Kijak
Piotr Kijak

@Erica Rodriguez There's also big possibility that the reason why there's water there is because Max died and her brain went on to become too damaged to even sustain her memories and she only has few recollection of those gifted by Eleven and Vecna has rest and there's also possibility that Max is still there inside but she is in a state where she's unreachable. I don't think if Max was in hold by Vecna killing him would release him, because he brought her to his clock building where she saw vines many of them were dead however. If she's alive there, then the only way to free her is to actually get to her which is i think hardly possible without lack of location from Vecna as the place doesn't seem like home of Creel but something strange and different.

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Erica Rodriguez
Erica Rodriguez

I think max will make her return in the finale episode. She will most likely remain in a coma in season 5. I think once El kills Vecna it will release Max from his hold and she will wake up...but blind. I personally think we are going to lose Will and Eleven at the end of season 5 though :( it started with them and it will end with them. Full circle.

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Jay Gray
Jay Gray

I think the other “sister” eleven met up with in the previous season that also has powers will probably come into play for this battle against Vecna. El is powerful but this is beyond JUST her at this point.

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ℝ𝕩𝕤𝕖𝕩𝕘𝕫𝕔𝕙𝕒
ℝ𝕩𝕤𝕖𝕩𝕘𝕫𝕔𝕙𝕒

i dont think el can take this, but Kali’s powers are kinda useless in a fight like this.

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Doncroft1
Doncroft1

Number 8 makes no sense, as she's the only test subject with powers that differ from Henry's. She was also wearing normal clothes at Hawkins instead of a gown. She's a plot hole.

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Nia Łong
Nia Łong

Omg perfect theory! I thought about her too , because the way they met up & then eleven left in a haste , it gave me vibes that they’ll meet up again but this time , I think they’ll come into contact with more like them . . I’ve been thinking for awhile now , that it cannot just be Eleven saving the world & she technically got help this time from hopper in Australia , to me what I’ve been getting at, is that it’s gonna take either a whole town or a few more people to help stop vecna this time . . I do not think she would’ve stopped him as quick as she did , if they didn’t burn & behead the mind flayer . . So I hope they bring her “ sis “back so she can help because they’ll become unstoppable if they work together & with the help of friends at the same time , can’t wait to see what season 5 has in store

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Raissa Heidi
Raissa Heidi

@Luludi Right!? I think El's mom would be so powerfull after all this time lost in her own mind. If Vecna can take someone else's mind and stuff, then El must be able to do the same and also the opposite, as she broght Max's body back to life. I hope she find's a way to bring both mom and Max back.

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Raissa Heidi
Raissa Heidi

I agree. At this point we all know Eleven alone can't fight him since Vecna himself doesn't fight on his own. It's gonne be super weird if they don't bring 8 back. I was thinking that maybe they didn't show her in s4 cause she was doing her own business hunting the ones that once took part in the project but she definitely should come back for s5.

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Evan
Evan

When Eddie said "I didn't run this time, right" I was tearing up 😢😢

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Layne Burke
Layne Burke

He didnt run 😭 he sacrificed himself A hero. He died so early man 😓

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Lapetus
Lapetus

@dupylo and the way they said I love to each other, WE LOST A FATHER FIGURE WHYYY-

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dupylo
dupylo

Those words hit me hard i was in tears, cus i relate to it

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Mystery Devil-Man
Mystery Devil-Man

Him dying had me in tears straight up!

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Lapetus
Lapetus

Ikr me too.

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Alexander Dumas
Alexander Dumas

Brenner trying to carry 11 to safety and being unable and then her standing on her own two feet and taking a plane down both literally and metaphorically sent the message that she can fly on her own unlike what Brenner said. It’s even more poignant that she takes down something that can fly.

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sol m.
sol m.

@valehrie actually now that i think about it, i feel like owens is suddenly going to be alive. how else would 11 train against henry??

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Höge
Höge

@Andrew Zasidko Brenner has no biological relation to eleven, stop spreading opinions and theories as facts please

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Mochi Jiminie💜
Mochi Jiminie💜

Well I am glad Papa is gone, all his life he manipulated and experimented on her, now she can fly freely

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Jc95
Jc95

Almost like 11 has had the same arc every season lol

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valehrie
valehrie

@sol m. this is so sad poor owens

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HueLikesBlue
HueLikesBlue

I believe that will is gonna play a bigger role in season 5. He wasn’t one of the main characters unlike in the past seasons and I feel like season 4 was his upbringing season since he wasn’t as active compared to other characters. Also I hope for the 5th season they fix his haircut they did him mad dirty.

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Rafael Johansson
Rafael Johansson

@Andrew Zasidko wow 💯 spot-on! Took the words out of my mouth 👄! I’d love to see the writers playing with his gay 1st love side into more depth

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Rafael Johansson
Rafael Johansson

@Tanveer Ahsan yep, most likely ! I want the writers of the show to explore more his 🏳️‍🌈 1st love side

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Rafton Monica
Rafton Monica

@Ashenfountain 💀

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HueLikesBlue
HueLikesBlue

@Cmvr nah steve got the most iconic hairstyle its pretty fire

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Cmvr
Cmvr

Both Will and Mike desperately need haircuts! Same with Steve!

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Signe Aarøe Jørgensen
Signe Aarøe Jørgensen

Noah Schnapp gets only a few scenes, and he's still the stand-out for me. He's such a talent. Can't wait to see him do other projects.

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Franky J Rod
Franky J Rod

@Come al solito it’s been hinted at throughout the entire series that Will is gay. In season 1 someone refers to him as the f word gay slur as a back-handed insult and his mom also describes as being different and unlike other kids, as she kind of had the inclination he was gay. Then there was the season 3 conversation with Mike about it things not being his fault because Will didn’t like girls... and then he caught himself. It’s worth exploring because it’s not an illogical leap to think that Will has feeling for Mike after how close they have been to one another all of their lives. They’ve been friends since they were in early elementary school. Also Mike has always been the prominent leader, so of course he’d most likely be found attractive by Will. It’s adds complexity to the relationship of the 3 characters in this love triangle... even if it seems to make you squeamish

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Come al solito
Come al solito

​@Franky J Rod Nah, they just fucked him up this time. He was one of the key which why this series was so good and the only two good things he did in 9 episode were the ones you quoted, period. They assassinated him just like Jonathan, regardless their brief emotional moment at the end. Also, the hint at his gay feelings for Mike, really!? Hope they don't develop on that, it's unnecessary. Let's have the guy at least his friendship with Mike and El as good as it is without jealousy or other cringy stuff that no one want to see, we already got unnecessary romances that ruins scenes, stop please.

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AESTHETIC BOII
AESTHETIC BOII

@swizzychicken no he’s not he’s obviously gonna play a big part in season 5 with that last scene

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Franky J Rod
Franky J Rod

@swizzychicken not at all. If he was wasted, then so many other members of the cast were discarded. Just because he didn’t physically pick up a bat or Molotov cocktail or spiky shield, doesn’t mean he was wasted. He is the one who helped Mike realized his purpose in the group as their leader and heart of the group. Will has always proved to be a symbol of hope when our group was at their lowest point and has always given others the motivation to muster up the courage to take action. Additionally, he had a phenomenal emotional character arc this season. So many emotional beats and he also helped prevent Johnathan’s character assassination this season. Will was great this season and will have a more physical role, as you wish, next season.

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Olivia Smith
Olivia Smith

I have a feeling that it will all come down to Will and Eleven in the very end. It began with Will, it's going to end with him. Whether he becomes the next bad guy in the end, or... I don't know...

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F H
F H

@Rupert Periwinkle If she returns with super powers then that is great. I want the skate board riding road warrior to return.

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Rupert Periwinkle
Rupert Periwinkle

@F H She's still alive. It would make no sense for El to reverse time to bring Max back to life, in order to kill her again in Season 5. She likely awakens from her coma, but changed.

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F H
F H

They better bring Max back... Sadie Sink rocks.

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Rupert Periwinkle
Rupert Periwinkle

Yep. Will is still connected to the Mind Flayer, which Vecna morphed and absorbed. Will may have to sacrifice himself in order to save Hawkins and his friends.

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Chrispyy_
Chrispyy_

Caleb and Sadie’s scene was phenomenal. I actually teared up

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Shadron Mythos
Shadron Mythos

same like I really never cry at anything else

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Sunmi
Sunmi

Such good actors!!!

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Sam Gamgee
Sam Gamgee

I loved the Hopper sword scene - he did the Aragorn at Black Gate pose and that was pretty sick

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Zzues
Zzues

@Franky J Rod I assume it was maybe something from one of the officers or wardens office. Someone grabbed it when attempting to fight off the escaped demogorgons and dropped it when he died in the courtyard. Maybe it was a trophy given by some Russian official?

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Franky J Rod
Franky J Rod

@Zzues I was wondering that too, it did kind of come out of nowhere

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Shroomjak
Shroomjak

I still liked the scene cos it made for a badass Hopper scene but why the fuck do these russians have some badass sword lying around?

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Zzues
Zzues

Was awesome but I must have missed where the heck it came from. In any case was like heck yes, barbarian Hopper mode!

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TheFrostbite324
TheFrostbite324

I was like “ where did the sword come…oh fuck it looks cool.”

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Tara Barela
Tara Barela

Honestly disappointed in how little they explained things with Will. I've always wondered all of these seasons why Will? Why take Will? Idk maybe they will explain it in the next season I hope!! Also hope and El being reunited made me so so so happy

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Blakeley Brock
Blakeley Brock

@Come al solito I agree it's woke Hollywood crap. at this point I expect them to have 11 save the world, turn back time making everyone that died come back but she'll be sacrificed doing so, also it will wipe everyone's memorys of her ever existing and then Mike and will will end up together.

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Dean Baetz
Dean Baetz

@Sparing Pickle actually I've read the opposite, that they actually planned the twist the entire time

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Tara Barela
Tara Barela

@Stuart Skills idk giving Will powers seems like such a cop out to me. I hope he's more involved just not in that way.

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Stuart Skills
Stuart Skills

Check out my comment on here with my small theory about what is gonna happen in season 5!!! Will is a main character in my theory a big part of my theory is that in season 5 will is going somehow be given powers or find out somehow that he has powers like El and Henry it would put so much more into his character since he’s really not used that much or even have many lines since after season 2

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LuckyTiger
LuckyTiger

Max is in a coma but not dead. Vecna/001 technically “killed” her, but eleven somehow saves her. Eleven then goes into Max’s mind but can’t find her. Remember in the massacre scene 001 told eleven that thei as in the kids are not dead but still in his head. Papa also mentions how he consumes the people he kills. My theory is that Max is in his head and since her body is still intact she can be saved but the others cant.

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Piotr Kijak
Piotr Kijak

@Shroomjak Not really however the real explaination is that Max conciousness is inside Vecna that gives an inside to him how Eleven throughout the years developed and works. However Eleven used her power of telekinesis to move the muscle of heart restarting her heart therefore bringing her back alive, but since her conciousness is not there. She might not wake up until Eleven penetrates mind of 001 and somehow liberates the people that he has attached to himself only that's how they will bring Max but there could be ultimate price for that infiltration. For Eleven to do that, she needs to try and fight him inside his mind while his friends weaken him in physical form unless she discovers a power that can bring other people into his mind too then they all can fight him there. Destroying him from Inside, just how Vecna did to others and discovered himself this season was ultimately about Eleven discovering possibilities of her power and that she's the opposite of One being the force of light happiness and love while One is more of a destruction anger and rule, Vecna used the strength of 4 people to open up the portal to the entire world, so the only way to stop it is logically to bring max back into real world. Stripping him of the 4th but this time they would need to cripple him inside or logically replicate the technology Dr.Brenner did where he injected him a "anti-power alike tech" into neck but they would need to use smth of sniper rifle and the tech inside bullet or smth.

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Shroomjak
Shroomjak

I feel like the situation with Max and Vecna could play out like some Harry Potter stuff. Like how Voldemort indirectly latached onto Harry to survive

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Rupert Periwinkle
Rupert Periwinkle

El turned back that 1 minute of time to before Max's heart stopped beating. She reversed time. Just like Henry could do.

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Account Not Used Anymore
Account Not Used Anymore

So it’s kind of like when Yusuke died, but awoke as a demon?

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

@That Cactus Kid thats what i was thinking when she did that. The only way one can be alive is if the heart is beating so she probably used her powers to get it beating again.

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Bethy
Bethy

I have a feeling that it will all come down to Will and Eleven in the very end. It began with Will, it's going to end with him. Whether he becomes the next bad guy in the end, or... I don't know...

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Bogus Guhl
Bogus Guhl

@Mochi Jiminie💜 The Byler fandom is really going too far.

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R A
R A

@Mochi Jiminie💜 maybe things will change next season.

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Mochi Jiminie💜
Mochi Jiminie💜

@R A no he didn't, stop making Will into something he's not, not ONCE was Will selfish this whole season, he always puts his family and friends first even if it breaks him, he's a strong and awesome character.

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Jamjam Love
Jamjam Love

@R A huh? At the end he looked more worried like he knew the war is about to start and he may have to sacrifice himself for his people to live

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R A
R A

@Angela like he Lowkey wanted revenge but on mike and Elle.

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SEARCH4TRUTH
SEARCH4TRUTH

I straight balled my eyes out when Eddie died and when Lucas cried as he held Max. I'm glad that Mike finally told El that he loved her because with everything she's gone through in her life she really needs to hear it from someone who really means it. I was so glad that El reunited with her dad that was a great vibe.

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hello person
hello person

Same same 😭..

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Komal Kumbhare
Komal Kumbhare

I hope Eddie is seen as the hero he is

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henry chaj
henry chaj

@dupylowe didn't see his body if they bought it back so it could very well be used by 1 to mess with the crew next season. Imagine 1 using his body because his body got destroyed.

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dupylo
dupylo

His name will prob be cleared in season 5 and maybe even he might still be somehow alive

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Miauw
Miauw

His dead was kinda foolish

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イヴィ
イヴィ

What I love about it though is that Dustin says if people knew what Eddie was like they'd all love him. And the audience does. Don't think it was intentional, but it felt super meta like that scene where they talk about the internet.

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Joel Frankel
Joel Frankel

@Jon Freeman nah man I highly doubt it, although I'd love that! We saw him die. The difference was hopper never died. If u die in the upside down, just like the regular world, your dead. He's not coming back.

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skittle-chan
skittle-chan

This is the greatest series of all time, cant wait for season 5, but still sad about how Eddie died :(

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Danny H
Danny H

Not even close to being the best series of all time, although season 4 was incredible

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Dn Md
Dn Md

Honestly i think season 5 is gonna be like endgame somehow.. would not be surprised if eleven Will timetravel or something and bring max and eddy back

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Gam3rize
Gam3rize

ikr he was my fav

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ketamine god
ketamine god

@Yon Ooooh thank you, now the only problem is that Hopper just became a full on swordsman and did that

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tom gu
tom gu

@Astern the are way better TV shows them breaking bad...

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AAALRGD
AAALRGD

Eddie's death killed me. And the part seeing Dustin and Eddie's uncle stabbed me right in the heart.

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Eren Jeager
Eren Jeager

Same

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Gaz S
Gaz S

The scene with Will and his brother was beautifully done.

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Gaz S
Gaz S

@Amanda Hallman Me too.

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Amanda Hallman
Amanda Hallman

@ Gaz S I know, made me cry 🥹

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Gaz S
Gaz S

It was the look of relief on wills face after his brother said what he said that got to me. To know he would alway have the love of his brother no matter what. Beautiful

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Amanda Hallman
Amanda Hallman

I mean, it kinda was forced bc the situation was dire. It wasn’t the typical heart to heart scenario but they were under extreme circumstances & Jonathan was in tune to his brother’s feelings so he took that opportunity to address his concerns & offer support in his time of need. He was clearly scared and isolated, wanting someone to comfort and protect him, too. Poor guy

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kxndy
kxndy

It seemed forced tho

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Nutt Bustington
Nutt Bustington

I think Max's mind being empty at the end was a sign of what they've been saying all season, that he basically absorbs his victims, and like the others Max ended up being absorbed into his being and is basically gone. until they finally kill his ass in season 5 which will probably return Max's consciousness to her. or at least that's what I hope ends up happening. I genuinely can't stand that they faked us out like that just end up killing her anyway. AND EDDIE. they weren't even able to prove he was innocent.

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Geography Lover
Geography Lover

Well, Max is in a comatose state, so that could possibly explain why her mind was empty when Eleven tried to reach her, as your mind at that point, is essentially non functional while in a coma. Then again though, that is a great theory which might be a reality in season 5. They had multiple instances where they could’ve killed her but the Duffers kept her alive for a reason and I’m excited to see why in season 5!

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AnonyMouse
AnonyMouse

I really didn't think Eddie would die like that. And the earthquake scene was 10/10 💯

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Nadia N
Nadia N

You mean “earthquake” hehe

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Just A Nobody
Just A Nobody

@Obeliteratricks it saved Dustin too because he knew if he went back to stall so time for Nancy and company that Dustin would follow him.. so he cut the rope of blankets to ensure that even if Dustin did catch up to him.. he'd be the one in danger and not Dustin

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KDH2
KDH2

@dupylo yes because the writers scared to kill off main characters. steve got plot armor but eddie? no he doesn’t.

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dupylo
dupylo

@KDH2 r u that sad about his death that ur not seeing why he did it and ur blaming the writers? Eddie was my fav character too but i'd be dumb af if i bitched to the writers and called the season garbage

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Branimir
Branimir

@matenzo it’s not abt the actor he just did what they wanted

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Lisa Sheldon
Lisa Sheldon

Will still has a connection to the Upside Down, I believe that season 5 will see him die to save the rest of them, Vecnas power diminished when the demogorgon and demodogs were torched, may be Will has to die to finish him off for good.

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💎 What -a- G.E.M 💎
💎 What -a- G.E.M 💎

@AlyMarie yea. That's a form of communication Vecna was sending through Will, stating he has always been there.

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AlyMarie
AlyMarie

@💎 What -a- G.E.M 💎 ur making no sense. Henry drew based off of his imagination, Will drew based off of what he saw in the upside down to help explain to his family and friends what happened.

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

I love this theory and i agree with it. I mean think about it, vecna marked will which is why he can always feel him. Will knows how he thinks and what he can do, so maybe will needs to die so his connection to the world can be gone for good.

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Mayra Palma
Mayra Palma

It’s giving Harry Potter

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Raissa Heidi
Raissa Heidi

@Dael Um Right? But I think something will happen to Will in s5 cause at this point there are som many similarities shown in different scenes between Will and Henry. So maybe Will doesn't come out as a villain but as some sort of contrapoint idk... And also I think El's gonna sacrifice herself in the end of s5, like, she "started it" now she's gotta end it.

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Matt Selph
Matt Selph

for max’s scene in the snowball, i thought it was a pretty interesting choice that they chose the song “every breath you take” because in the scene, the lyrics go, “every move you make, every bond you break, every step you take, ill be watching you” which implies that vecna can be watching her anywhere and anytime.

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Vixx J
Vixx J

I noticed that too, and I loved the blood-filled balloons popping, gave me “It” vibes.

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Xethios
Xethios

When Vecna “killed” Max, he stole her mind as well as her memories. Now how did she get back? Well, I think that Eleven entered her mind after it was emptied by Vecna and refilled it with memories that she shared with her. This is why the scene where El goes back and sees Max’s past is shown. That scene is shown so that Eleven can hold more of max’s “important” memories which also make up her identity. By having those identity-making memories of Max, I assume Eleven was able to revive her memories, then mind and ultimately Max herself in the upside down — then the Coma in the real word. That’s my theory, and I think it is very much foreshadowed.

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

Thats a good theory but why couldnt she see anything in max's mind when she jumped in while being in the coma? What im thinking is that since lucas said her heart stopped and that she died for over a minute and came back, eleven probably restarted her heart in some way. You cant revive someone with memories, but you can if make their heart beat.

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Richard Smith
Richard Smith

Unconscious Max will be kryptonite for Vecna - he already killed her so he can't kill her again - and she's not dead so his fourth gate is unstable. You heard it here first :)

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Dean
Dean

This is a really good theory!

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Xethios
Xethios

@jjpetroleum that’s the thing. Maybe that has to do with Eleven awakening her “full” potential in S5. I really don’t know

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Marissa S
Marissa S

I’m honestly low key bummed they didn’t kill Max. Her “Death Scene” in the last episode was so powerful and I choked up and cried…but then to see her in a coma a minute later…it kinda took away from the emotional impact of the prior scene. Killing off a fan favorite character who fought so hard all season would have been a risky, but applauded move in my eyes. Sadie is a phenomenal actress so I get why they want to keep her around. But, they need to actually commit to a characters death if they are gonna portray one.

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Lady S
Lady S

Agree

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

Dont you think that makes her being alive all more important tho? She was the 4th gate and 4th kill vecna needed. Shes the one that triggered everything with her death. But since we now know she ended up coming back its possible that Vecna wont be able to go through with his plan properly

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Shadron Mythos
Shadron Mythos

@indiandude But what about Hopper does he just get a pass on the "cheap resurrection" treatment? I'm glad she didn't die, then the Dear Billy scene would have been for nothing.

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ifhy
ifhy

@Tanisha M Browne Hopper had a pretty damn significant role in the plot of this season tho. If he died we wouldn't have the Russia plot point so they most definitely intended for him to survive in the first place

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MrCam3448
MrCam3448

Almighty main characters

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T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX With Me
T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX With Me

Why does everyone forget that Brenner said that he “consumes” people? It seems pretty clear that he still has the memories and people inside him and if Vecna killed Max then Vecna has her memories and mind

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C.A.A.N
C.A.A.N

No he may have aittle but he definitely did tdinish the job

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Steven Ayala
Steven Ayala

I loved that scene in the end when everyone, even though they aren’t together, are attacking the bad guys simultaneously. It beautifully shows that the group ALSO ACT AS A HIVE weakening Vecna while Eleven takes him down.

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angeluvvs ♡
angeluvvs ♡

vol. 2 was crazy. i cried half the time. the last episode with eddie at the end, i was crying..so much. he was my favorite character. and max, when i thought she died..i was in tears.

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Cool Terra
Cool Terra

I said earlier when volume 1 was released to myself that they would never kill a main character that lasted more than one season after that scene with max in Dear, Billy, but you know with max breaking her bones and going blind I was in pure disbelief, since it was just so sudden, I couldn't cry during it though as a few hours ago easily my favorite YouTuber, the only YouTuber I've ever bought merch for, technoblade died of cancer specifically sarcoma, so I was all out of tears.

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DrunkenKas
DrunkenKas

Bro those few seconds before max died... that shit was horrifying man had me in tears

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Courtney Huggins
Courtney Huggins

Yeah same! Seeing Dustin and Lucas cry tears me up! I was balling my eyes out hahaha

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angeluvvs ♡
angeluvvs ♡

@onami yeah, i really thought she was going to die. eddie just seems like a funny guy. every time i see that clip of him, i just start to tear up.

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onami
onami

Yes we thought Max really gonna die with that cracking bone stuff but they had us in the first half 🤣😭 thanks to Duffers brother not kill her cause she's my fav character 😭but I feel bad for Eddie cause his character has potential but

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Olivia Smith
Olivia Smith

I'm not sure if I'm completely satisfied with the ending. I wanted to see more about El vs Angela, Enzo and Yuri (I was hoping Enzo would have joined the team). I was also expecting more suspense and emotions in the final reunion.

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famallon
famallon

I think he will play a big part in s5, already knew in s4 vol 1. He is very curious about the upside down stuff, I hope he will fight with the crew and go out like a boss

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JJ DD
JJ DD

But we still need an explanation as to why the dark energy known as the Mindflayer existed in the first place? I understand that Vecna/Henry harnessed it's power and molded it into his image of the shadow monster but it doesn't really explain it's origins. The Mindflayer seems like a form of dark matter, very alien or God-like. We also need an explanation as to why Henry developed psychic powers as a child as well.

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12_Ngô Đức Minh _11A13
12_Ngô Đức Minh _11A13

@jonathanಠ_ಠ You’re correct, but I believe my point still stands. Eleven has accepted all of her traumas by episode 9, as Brenner taught her.

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12_Ngô Đức Minh _11A13
12_Ngô Đức Minh _11A13

@jonathanಠ_ಠ Eleven did not created the Upside Down. If she’s powerful enough to create an entire dimension from scratch, there’s no reason she wouldn’t be able to revive Max and stomp Vecna in a split second.

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dupylo
dupylo

Those are the 2 things i really want to know aswell, origin of Vecna's powers was not mentioned at all

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DL SWYER
DL SWYER

I was so mad that only Dustin was talking about Eddie, the rest just didn’t bring it up and it confused me, seemed like a type of plot hole tbh. They just totally forgot that he was one of the group

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DL SWYER
DL SWYER

@Eren Jeager just don’t see how the duffer brothers would expect all viewers to feel that way though, I really hope there’s a reason why we didn’t have closure, I mean Dustin talking to his uncle kinda was but we didn’t see them leave the upside down which I hope is picked up on in s5

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Eren Jeager
Eren Jeager

Idk, with hiw many deaths they were,they are prob getting a bit numb to it now, and were probably not letting theyr feelings take over them

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Robert Durham Music
Robert Durham Music

I feel max dying was more impactful than being revived. The revive felt a bit of a cheat.

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Robert Durham Music
Robert Durham Music

@jonathanಠ_ಠ yeah you’d think but I think tbh the duffer brothers maybe had too much covid time and messed with the timeline a bit. They’ve admitted to going into previous seasons and changing things like wills birthday. The fact there was a big song and dance about Max writing letters, for me doesn’t make sense why she survived and will end up potentially blind when she wakes. I think they changed it because season 3 finished with a letter from hopper and they maybe felt it was too similar but I do believe max was supposed to die, then they changed it. The letters might never get spoke of again and I’m hoping they don’t do a time travel thing where Hawkins town never knows what really happened, and people come back from the dead kinda thing. It Would feel really cheap to do that and diminish all the emotions it’s carried us through thus far. It would be hard to rewatch the whole thing again if you knew none of it mattered.

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

@how dare you call me that?! i agree

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

I see it more like a loophole that eleven may or may not have thought of. If max is technically still alive wouldnt that mean that Vecna's 4 gates into reality somehow got corrupted?

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sol m.
sol m.

@Shadron Mythos no hopper made sense. didn’t realize it until i started rewatching but the topic of russians was always here. would make sense that he would be taken and held prisoner. how else could we have seen that the russians had demo dogs & the shadow?

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Shadron Mythos
Shadron Mythos

@MrCam3448 I'd rather they killed Steve than Max.

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Anakin Skywalker
Anakin Skywalker

Best Stranger Things season EVER!! I am so glad I got to experience it the day it came out!! Both vol.1 and vol.2! The quality felt better than most movies nowadays. I can't wait to see what they do with the characters and the story in season 5!!

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Soinas Doyi
Soinas Doyi

since he wasn’t as active compared to other characters. Also I hope for the 5th season they fix his haircut they did him mad dirty.

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FruityCobblestone
FruityCobblestone

When I finished volume two my heart just sank you for Max. Just hearing her say “I don’t want to die. I’m not ready.” With the pure fear in her voice. It was the first time she had actually sounded terrified in the series. It was the first time she took in that she might actually die. I must admit that if they killed off Max my Netflix account would’ve gone with her.

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Shadron Mythos
Shadron Mythos

Same I made a promise before V2 aired that I would be done with the show if Max died.

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Terry-Ann Francis
Terry-Ann Francis

My heart was literally broken watching what Max had to go through. Like I was literally crying the whole time.

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Abbey M
Abbey M

she was meant to see the movie with lucas too 💔

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sTwAP iT bEhAvE💅
sTwAP iT bEhAvE💅

Same

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Scott Broome
Scott Broome

I was heartbroken when I saw Max’s limbs distort as Vecna began to take her, but with Eleven reviving her, albeit soulless, she will play a role in season 5 for sure. I also think her vision will return. When Vecna had her at Billy’s grave, her eyes went white. Same with Nancy when he showed her the future to come. As soon as his possession ceases, their vision returns. Because Vecna technically succeeded in ‘consuming’ Max, her body is empty. A shell. When he is defeated in season 5, I’m confident Max will return.

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USA BALL
USA BALL

This is definitely the best season. This season brought to much excitement and fear to the characters. The ending is such a cliffhanger

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Jxsus
Jxsus

@Alex Charakas id argue this season was better but I see why others think season 1 is superior due to nostalgia. Though this season definitely answered a lot and brought the story together as a whole

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Alex Charakas
Alex Charakas

Definitely not the best season, Season 1 will always be the best.

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Livmustdie
Livmustdie

RIP Eddie, you were on the show for such a short time yet had the entire world rooting for you 😓

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Livmustdie
Livmustdie

@Jim The Joseph Hopper Video Vlog Guy Max didn’t die. El brought her back and she’s in a coma. But the season ended in a cliffhanger where she wasn’t doing so good, so idk her fate for the next season. But she’s still breathing at least for now.

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T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX With Me
T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX With Me

As sad as it is seeing Eddie’s death only be shown through Dustin and him still being seen as the murderer, I’m glad he went out the way he did. A hero

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I am a Filmi Geek
I am a Filmi Geek

Eddie's death literally made me cry. I'm so glad Max survived. OMG! Such a amazing action packed epic season finale that was. This entire season is just perfect.

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Sad Dany
Sad Dany

I really like how they made all of the groups - albeit very apart from each other - collectively contributed for defeating Vecna.

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Mates Kostka
Mates Kostka

I dont know if I am the only one, but I expected more from these two eps…feel like it is missing something and my expectations were much higher..

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Luna
Luna

@Aleesha exactlyyy!!

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Luna
Luna

Right. I didn’t like this season for some reason. I feel no connection to the characters anymore after 3 years of no show. Plus how was the season split in half if volume 2 was only 2 episodes… doesn’t make sense

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Aleesha
Aleesha

@der einzig wahre the whole season felt like it dragged out to long. And volume 2 didn't live up to the hype. I also really dislike longer episodes I feel the shorter ones were so full and kept wanting more.

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der einzig wahre
der einzig wahre

Episode 4 and 7 was a lot better than episode 8 and 9 my opinion

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Aleesha
Aleesha

Not just you :)

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Joshua Tlhapisang
Joshua Tlhapisang

When Maxine's limbs started breaking 💔. Thought Eleven would get there in time.

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Crystal Nichole ™
Crystal Nichole ™

Omg that took my heart! I just knew she would be saved before that

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John JohnRN86
John JohnRN86

This is how you do a season. Hello GOT and Disney plus shows and other shows that had disappointing seasons! Volume 1 was so good and left me wanting more. They didn’t make us wait a year . They gave us a movie-length end to the season. This is how you do fight/battle scenes.

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Mason McConnell
Mason McConnell

@Magnetic Leads you nailed it

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Magnetic Leads
Magnetic Leads

Disney+ has political ideological agenda in every single “film” or “series” they make. That’s why Disney+ is garbage. ST is doing well because there isnt fumbling silly men being told what to do by strong female characters who are smarter and apparently stronger than the men. There is not anti-white shaming, or silly lgbtq pandering. Its just a good show. Yes it has gay people in it, but it doesnt push it so hard on audience as if trying to “convert” them. Yes it has strong female characters who are smart but they are actually flawed, too. Physically weaker clearly, but not out of the count.

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Mason McConnell
Mason McConnell

you nailed it man these other shows are hot garbage i don't even pay for Disney plus anymore cause the shows are whack as fuck these other shows need to take note 100% like robin coming out in season 3 it didn't feel forced down my throat like most shows do everything is well written.

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OMAR
OMAR

Got was ruined by Star Wars

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Sunmi
Sunmi

BRO YES!!! amazing show till the end

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Hounth
Hounth

Regarding what happened to Max, I'm pretty sure Eleven used her powers to make her heart beat again. It was said by Lucas that Max's heart stopped beating for a minute, and then started beating again, that's what makes me think that

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Sankalp
Sankalp

I think Max is tied to this in more ways than previously thought. Perhaps, One/Henry/Vecna is residing within her. I hope the group is not split in season 5. I have a feeling that either Steve or Jonathan will be killed off. Will Byers and El also could be killed.

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Sankalp
Sankalp

@StrategyMaster17 Actually I think it will be Steve that will be killed that's why they were teasing his getting back together with Nancy. Also, Will is marked so I don't think they will kill both of Joyce's children.

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StrategyMaster17
StrategyMaster17

I think Jonathan dies next season to open the door for Steve and Nancy to get back together. This whole season foreshadowed it

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Angela
Angela

Same 🤔

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Rika
Rika

The actor Will really broke me into tears like literal tears when seeing him cry about his unrequited love towards Mike. I wish they dive more deep into his feelings for Mike the next season.

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Rafael Johansson
Rafael Johansson

Totally agree with you, I’d love to see Will being loved for Mike (not likely) or whomever, he deserves a young love ❤️ 💯

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IsThatAKingFisher
IsThatAKingFisher

I was a little bit disappointed with the last episode, Vecna didn’t really show his power enough for me and I love Eddie but he wasn’t a big enough character to die for me, I expected him to die! So expected for season 5

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Aman M S
Aman M S

This finale really had an Empire Strikes Back vibe, especially with ending where the villains win and the heroes are at their weakest spot. Luke undergoing training with Yoda similar to the whole Project Nina thing (even the scene where Eleven lifts that chamber totally parallels Luke trying to lift the X-wing). Luke leaving the training to face Vader despite Yoda warning that he's not ready yet, just like how Eleven ran off to face Vecna despite Brenner claiming that she's not ready yet, only for Luke/Eleven to face defeat under Vader/Vecna. It ends with Han Solo being captured by the Empire and frozen in Carbonite, kinda like how ST ends with Max in a coma. Even their story structures are kinda similar, with the heroes being separated for the majority of the story (Luke/Eleven undergoing training while Han & Leia/the Hawkins gang are fighting the Empire/Vecna)

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A C
A C

I totally agree! I literally said that to my husband as we waited for part 2. I was like, I think they're going to pull an Empire Strikes Back and have everything fall to pieces. Empire Strikes Back was actually pretty controversial when it first came out because the good guys lost. I had a feeling the Duffers would be partially influenced by the Star Wars OG trilogy format. To add to your comparisons, Mike even pulled a Han "I know" moment. Obviously more emotional but we have a character who was reluctant to share his feelings admiting he loves the main heroine.

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StrategyMaster17
StrategyMaster17

What happened to the military? They just gave up the pursuit on 11 after she escaped with Mike and the others

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JonnySlick
JonnySlick

they came too light

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Justin H
Justin H

I think the season had its drawbacks but knocked out of the park overall in terms of the emotion and the characters. Can’t wait for season 5.

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Susi Varga
Susi Varga

@Dylan Davos your problem might be that you are looking for traces of GoT or of an '80s horror movie when there is none. At its core it's a retro horror comedy with a steady main cast. They were obviously not gonna get killed, blame yourself for believing the hype about a S4 bloodbath. They are not killing the children, it was obvious from the start. Neither will they kill any of the older siblings, that would essentially change the show's dynamic. They also cannot kill old characters and bring in new ones all the time because how do you want the kids to start explaining the UD every 5 minutes to the new ones? Between funerals? It was always going to be Barb and Bob and Eddie who go out...

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Susi Varga
Susi Varga

@Dylan Davos Did she have internal bleeding? No. Brain damage? Possible. Open fracture? No. Blood loss? No. Her heart stopped? Yes. Something medics deal with every day. Clinical death, we call it. You call it plot armour, up to you. She's an empty shell, hell of a plot armour that is 😀😁😂🤣

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Dylan Davos
Dylan Davos

@Susi Varga No, but she can bring life into someone who's legs and ankles/arms have been snapped by a super humanoid being who can wipe their brains and numb their feelings. She was bleeding from her eyes and died on the spot. It is completely plot armour lol.

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Dylan Davos
Dylan Davos

@Susi Varga Call it whatever you wan't. Do you understand the concept of plot armour? Eleven could have brought bobby, billy or anybody else who died throughout the series with this logic back to life. The storyline or root cause of her overpowering vecna was yet another motivational speech. Textbook save the day hero boring rinsed mediocrity. You're easily amused obviously. It lacked depth, meaning and shock value. Vecna didn't put one scratch on any of the main characters, I expected more. Thats it.

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Indhumathi L
Indhumathi L

I was literally screaming at my TV screen when Max's legs were getting twisted. That scene was intense.

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Malia Rachel
Malia Rachel

When Eleven crashed that helicopter, CHILLS! Also when she locked eyes with Vecna for the first time, literal chills

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ProdKamoReef
ProdKamoReef

The Piggyback was probably one of the best pieces of television I’ve ever watched in my life!!! Emotion, tears, excitement, fear, anger, happiness, joy, frustration EVERYTHING 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I can’t believe it has been Vecna since the start 🤯🤯🤯

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Empath Opinion
Empath Opinion

@Just Huell There's a reason good writers don't explain everything up front, that's for sure. Clearly 11 created the portal. I'm not convinced she created the Upside Down or even the other dark elements that already existed when Vecna was teleported. It does make sense though that the attacks directed at Hawkins were personal (setting aside that the portal was there - seems obvious) but there's a portal in Russia, and it doesn't appear attacks were happening there. Clearly Vecna was behind the personal vengeance. Perhaps the pre-Vecna Mind Flayer particles and the demidogs etc would have remained happily in their own dimension? The Duffer's have designed the show to leave us wondering. I just hope it all gets wrapped up with clarity in the final season. PS - not sure why the demigorgon could get through the portal, or in some way, pulled Will and Barb through in season 1, BUT Vecna couldn't do that. It's illogical, but it's good writing that's suspenseful. otherwise we'd have maybe two seasons tops.

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Just Huell
Just Huell

@Empath Opinion I was merely going off of what the interviewer said like they were certain el created it and the duffers confused the fuck out of everyone by not responding to it.

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Empath Opinion
Empath Opinion

@Just Huell It seems you have inside info re the Duffer brothers, and maybe they'll explain that in the show in the final season. So are you saying that 11 when she smashed 001 into the upside down, that she also created the Mind Flayer particles and the demidogs too? It was all nothingness until she opened the portal? In the show, one could assume all of that already existed.

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Empath Opinion
Empath Opinion

@Mushy Kale I can halfway agree with you. The Mind Flayer particles existed before Vecna. Vecna "organized" the hive mind so to speak. Also demidogs existed before Vecna too. So you see why I think that's confusing. Vecna didn't create from a clean slate. He took existing "dark" elements and organized them.

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Billy Swift
Billy Swift

@Delawanna yes I hate it sm

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R.I.P. Kobe
R.I.P. Kobe

what if it wasn’t a demogorgon that kidnapped will but vecna? i also love that they made him the ultimate villain. he’s connected to everything they’ve been fighting against.

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A Smith
A Smith

@VULA Your drawings are really bad though

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Steve Maverick
Steve Maverick

I’m still a big fan of the mind flayer. I like that it’s an enormous threat, and that Vecna didn’t ‘create’ it, just shaped and directed it’s already tremendous power.

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abstract valley
abstract valley

@R.I.P. Kobe hmm interesting when you put it that way

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R.I.P. Kobe
R.I.P. Kobe

@abstract valley from the flashback the upside down has been around for a while. i just think vecna made it in his image. i also think he is the kind flayer because he told 11 that it was him all along. when billy said “it was all for you” i think that was vecna planning world destruction. but was stopped. so he took matters into his own hands. so no vecna didn’t create the upside down. but he made it in his image.

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Keena Lawrence
Keena Lawrence

@Atlanta Guns he shaped it and he controls it but he did not create it. He stumbled upon it his first "day" in the upside down, as he literally explains and it shows as well. It didn't have the spider form but it was already there swirling around like it was in the Russian lab when part of it was contained there. All he did was use his telekinetic powers to shape it into the spider like form he was obsessed with and then he began controlling it, along with all the other "creatures" he found there.

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A Turner
A Turner

Have always felt a hole in the series with the brief appearance of 8. Can't help but get the feeling she could possibly return. Maybe to combine forces with 11 to end Vecna for good.

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Jana Hinnawi
Jana Hinnawi

I was shocked seeing everything in this season, the most believed scene is when lucas is wakeing up max saying "Max stay with me" that scene was rly powerful and emotional

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Lukas Franco
Lukas Franco

Honestly, my gut feeling is that Max isn’t going to wake up in season 5. It just feels like she’s supposed to be dead, but El just didn’t want to accept it. So while she may have saved her physical body, I’m not sure if her mind is coming back.

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Keys !
Keys !

I feel like they would’ve killed off max right away but the fact that they kept her alive makes it clear that she’s going to play a part in how they might fight vecna. El was there when max was dying, max herself quoted how she didn’t want to die or wasn’t ready to die.

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Adir Mann
Adir Mann

So when Will says it was him all along, did it mean that Vecna kidnapped him? I think from my understanding it was probably Vecna behind the scenes, harnessing the power of the upside down (shaping the mind flair) into the spider- them having a mutual relationship etc

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Courtney Huggins
Courtney Huggins

@jonathanಠ_ಠ yeah I had a feeling. I was rewatching all the old episodes and I’m like whoooooa so that was vecna doing all this 😂😂😂

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

The show already confirmed that vecna was behind everything the entire time lmao

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Carzia_Speed⚡️
Carzia_Speed⚡️

@Frank N. Stein THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT!

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Courtney Huggins
Courtney Huggins

Yeah I agree!

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Frank N. Stein
Frank N. Stein

@Jax Sin the mindflayer is vecna, it was shown that the particles were just a creature in the upside down that was instrumentalized by him, with his abilities he can manipulate these particles... and he used the particles to gain control over the other creatures in the upside down or to shape them to this spider-looking creature. this is not a theory, this was shown in the last episode.

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Andrei 123
Andrei 123

This season was Amazing . can't wait for the next one

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Shampy_Shoe
Shampy_Shoe

This season finale. I... am speechless. This was so fun and exciting to watch, I can't wait for season 5.

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Tayboy 4 Life
Tayboy 4 Life

Very! Was excited from the start! Them Duffer brothers! 😎🤗

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Sunmi
Sunmi

!!

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A. Bardhan
A. Bardhan

Just finished watching volume 2...can't wait for S5...I think they will show what happened in those 3 days in the ending and I hope they show Kali in the next season.

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Jeremy Burch
Jeremy Burch

@-epikgoatjas- um she kinda needs to help 11 or everyone is going to die...lol

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-epikgoatjas-
-epikgoatjas-

@arsenal_wells no, if no one asked why are u reading

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arsenal_wells
arsenal_wells

@-epikgoatjas- yep did he ask?

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-epikgoatjas-
-epikgoatjas-

I hope kali doesn’t come

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Christian Marvello
Christian Marvello

my only problem with ST is that they can't write good deaths/fair ones. Yes, I am salty about Eddie's death however this isn't just about Eddie. You can tell by every death each season that the deaths are unnecessary and unfair and u can tell that the duff bros are afraid to kill a fan-favorite character hence hopper not dying in season 3. Benny, Bob, Barb, Alexi, Jason, and now Eddie unfortunately all died in their season of introduction. Since ST is such a popular show all the characters including the main 6, the older kids, the adults, and ERICA that if they kill off character it could either impact the show or fans will be very sad and disappointed, however it has to be done at some point. I am amazed that after all the shit they have gone through this season alone that none of the main main characters died, seems too good to be true. BTW GOOD NEWS JASON DIED 🤪😁

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Definition SuperVillain
Definition SuperVillain

My problems with Season 4 vol.2: - Where is Enzo and peanut butter guy? - They acted like Hopper's return is like someone coming home in an airport - Basketball bully guy should've finally realized that he was wrong the whole time - Only Dustin and Mr. Munson cared about Eddie who literally sacrificed - El should've meet Angela again with her power - Did Steve, Robin and Nancy just botched El's moment to kill Vecna? - Will's always look sad everytime

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Alison
Alison

We will probably see Enzo in season 5 not Yuri

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max mazzotti
max mazzotti

@exstrawtic that may be plausible

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exstrawtic
exstrawtic

@max mazzotti probably because those things from the upside down are protecting him when they became part of his body

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max mazzotti
max mazzotti

How is Vecna alive after being hit with 2 Molotovs and multiple shotgun shells?

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MrOnionRing
MrOnionRing

When dustin was talking to Eddies uncle, I kept thinking to myself that he NEEEDS to refer to him as a hero and when he actually did it was very fulfilling. Also a part of me thinks that how Vecna can *take* someones entire essence and memories, that Eleven could *give* apart of her life force. I am hoping that in season 5 Max gets some of Elevens powers and they become a duo to take down Vecna's shadow form. She is one of the most negatively effected by Vecna and I think it would be perfect to allow Max to have some superpowers so she can channel her grief into taking Vecna down. Max really came from the left field in becoming such a powerful core member of the show and this season she quickly elevated herself to one of my favourite characters. As her limbs were being broken i was a complete WRECK!!! Sadie SInk as an actress is truly a masterclass. I am forever changed by this season of Stranger Things.

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Jeremy Burch
Jeremy Burch

Do you even watch the show....why would they introduce 008 and have her say she's going to come back when 011 needs her the most.....to develop max having powers too?? I mean they could guess but wouldn't it undermine their own story???? All that said I do think the actress did an amazing job and love the character as well

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felipeluna02
felipeluna02

Agreed! Max is one of my favorite characters, when she was telling Lucas she didnt want to die I was sobbing like crazy, both Actors did such a phenomenal job here, I was a wreck.

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Lucy
Lucy

Volume 2 was EPIC! so excited for the final season to come! PS - we were all praying Steve doesn't die that we forgot about Eddie! I swear I actually cried for his death!

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ess3ntial
ess3ntial

*things I wish were resolved:* -no date at enzos :((( -no movie friday night for max and lucas -jason should’ve realized eddie was good -jonathan still lying.. character development much -nancy not reallyyyy with anybody -suzie and eden disappeared -no get together to explain what everyone did -no eddie justice, only dustin cared -vicky x robin?? -will still in the closet -they let vecna go, couldve kept shooting -what happened to school counselor?!!?! -where r enzo and yuri and murray?? -eleven shouldve met angela again -eleven’s mom?! no point in arguing since its just my opinion

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Muhammad Mufly
Muhammad Mufly

For me season 4 is the best season for Stranger Things so far. It was so sad that Eddie died as a hero but not everyone see's him that way. Most Hawkins believe that Eddie is a murderer. And I also cried when Steve said that Nancy was there when dream about he and his family going on a vacation.

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Mafia Prod.
Mafia Prod.

I am glad Steve survived Volume 2, but Eddie didn’t deserve to die and he was a great character.

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valehrie
valehrie

at this point they literally jus killed him to keep their legacy of “introducing a fan favorite character for one season then killing them off” going.

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Almighty Clipz
Almighty Clipz

They didn't even prove his innocence bro😭

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Swerty R6
Swerty R6

@34 they had to kill him off, or else he'd have to be running from the law all of season 5 which would just add another time consuming plot that isn't quite necessary. Even trying to keep max alive is sort of pointless as well. Would've rather her death and the readings of the letters she wrote for the group following her death at the end of the episode. That was what felt forced. Eddie had to die.

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34
34

his death was so meaningless it was so forced

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Sunmi
Sunmi

!!!

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Lucas Burghardt
Lucas Burghardt

This is by far the best season so far, this ending was one of the best endings I ever seen in any show out there in the world. Everything is so well written, music, production, effects, story and so on. This ending gave me chills, tears and exitment for the future of this show this is the first time in stranger things that the evil have won the battle but that dosent mean they will win the war. it´s going to be epic in season 5 when the invasion starts and the final boss battle is happening. Can´t wait only 2 years too go!

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Chelsea Templeton
Chelsea Templeton

An amazing season. Anyone else catch the nod to The Matrix with Will’s speech to El while she was fighting Vecna mirroring Trinity’s speech to Neo when he was fighting Smith? I love how the Duffer brothers have used elements of so many great films while still making something so original. Can’t wait for Season 5!

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Craig Maxted
Craig Maxted

Eddie was amazing and the guitar scene was epic! Loved he's character and the fact that he won over alot of us in a short time also love how the upside down world is now merging into Hawkins gonna make season 5 very interesting

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Aysha Siddiqa Prapti
Aysha Siddiqa Prapti

I've just finished volume 2. Mannnnn it was so intense. I mean what was that? Everything was so scary & traumatizing! Can't wait for season 5. I mean this season is the best season ever. Felt sad for eddie, but as dustin said eddie is definitely a super hero! I hope max will be get better soon in season 5. The way lucas and eleven trying to help her was the most wholesome friendship moment.

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Annabel Collister
Annabel Collister

I still believe Will has a connection with Vecna and the upside down in a bad way. I think season 5 he will somehow betray his friends.

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GamefreakRX
GamefreakRX

I think the biggest revelation is the fact that the "Mind Flayer" never existed and was Vecna the whole time. I'm not sure I like this retcon, but it makes sense if they want "001" to be the main antagonist as he's the foil to El. Though I hope in season 5 we get full clear info on what the "Shadow" clouds are and where they came from.

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DB
DB

Yep, I agree.

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Jovan dixon
Jovan dixon

Am a bit confused in the final episode before he was sent to the upside down when he was young and that the creel house he drew the shadows monster and then when he transcended he say the monster which means the monster has always been there.

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Atlanta Guns
Atlanta Guns

Yup that’s the thing that most people don’t get or shall I say don’t want to be true. There is no mind flayer. It’s a name the kids gave to the spider shadow monster created/shaped by vecna/001/Henry. It’s been vecna all this time, he’s the ultimate villain of this story and he’s been controlling everything since season 1. People just want the “mindflayer” to be the ultimate baddie because that’s how it is in D&D and vecna is the mindflayers general. But this isn’t D&D it’s stranger things. People need to get over this and recognize that this show is as much about vecna as it is about El. Vecna’s story is absolutely amazing the best villain I have ever seen. Netflix makes great shows.

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T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX With Me
T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX With Me

As sad as it is seeing Eddie’s death only be shown through Dustin and him still being seen as the murderer, I’m glad he went out the way he did. A hero

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Jatin Gupta
Jatin Gupta

During the confrontation with Nancy, Vecna showed her the visions of Hawkins fall and all of them came true by the end of this season, but he also showed a vision of Mike, Holly, Karen dying, so if his other visions come true, does that mean these three would be in horrible danger in S5???

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T J
T J

This finale really had an Empire Strikes Back vibe, especially with ending where the villains win and the heroes are at their weakest spot. Luke undergoing training with Yoda similar to the whole Project Nina thing (even the scene where Eleven lifts that chamber totally parallels Luke trying to lift the X-wing). Luke leaving the training to face Vader despite Yoda warning that he's not ready vet, just like how Eleven ran off to face Vecna despite Brenner claiming that she's not ready yet, only for Luke/Eleven to face defeat under Vader/Vecna. It ends with Han Solo being captured by the Empire and frozen in Carbonite, kinda like how ST ends with Max in a coma. Even their story structures are kinda similar, with the heroes being separated for the majority of the story (Luke/Eleven undergoing training while Han & Leia/the Hawkins gang are fighting the Empire/Vecna)

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Soham Banerjee
Soham Banerjee

It seemed like EDDIE was forcefully killed ....I mean distractions could have been created in a many ways....why go for a kill... Couldn't accept that part 😭🙂

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Ally Mayfield
Ally Mayfield

I just came up with a theory, since Will got “chosen” after he had lost in D&D maybe the ending of season 5 could be them playing again but winning which then affects reality😌

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

They did kind of make it seem like Will chosing to "throw the fireball" and missing, instead of "playing it safe" during the D&D game at the beginning of the show somehow affected reality. Thats a cool theory.

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Andyyoureastar
Andyyoureastar

a very wholesome theory i appreciate

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Martin Colton
Martin Colton

Season 4 was absolutely amazing. It hit every spot

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MrCam3448
MrCam3448

No! Characters are invisible

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Brandon Cazares
Brandon Cazares

I agree

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Martin Colton
Martin Colton

@n o o d l e s🍜 loved him doing master of puppets by Metallica

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n o o d l e s🍜
n o o d l e s🍜

Rip king Eddie

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BrainPilot
BrainPilot

Totally agree!

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Sam Holt
Sam Holt

I was expecting a higher death count, especially the way the Duffer brothers were hyping it up

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tyler outland
tyler outland

I just finished volume 2 yesterday it was awesome I'm ready for season 5

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R A
R A

When Lucas fought I was so scared!! That was incredible acting by him!!

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PEEYA Says YES
PEEYA Says YES

Here are my theories I hate how Eddie and Max (yes I think she’s dead) died but I think their deaths will become the central issues on the next season. Joyce, Jonathan and Nancy will be busy with Wil because I strongly believe that Wil is connected to the upside down and he might be used by Vecna. Lucas and Erica will be pretty busy with Max cause if she ain’t dead I think she will have some super powers or something. Maybe she would have heightened senses because she lost her sense of sight. El might help them locate Max but if not I think she’s either trapped or dead. Dustin’s going to be busy with trying to make Eddie be remembered as a hero by the town of Hawkins. Steve and Robin might him with these. Lastly, I think Wil will die next season

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lushies
lushies

I agree with everything except Max getting powers. Don’t think she will, it’s just far fetched

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onami
onami

Mike's reaction after hugging hopper kinda weird...I think Mike is villain 😂

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Sitcom Person
Sitcom Person

Yeah Dustin spending his entire time trying to prove to a town who are moving away and running for their life that Eddie the freak was a hero. Good time for Dustin to join Politics too. Don't you think? The team is all scattered by the end, so accordingly they are going to team-up next time. Steve, Robin and Dustin (possibly Vickie too), Jonathan, Nancy, El, Hopper,Joyce, Mike and Will like in the end shot. Lucas, Erica and Max(if she is alive) also maybe Dr Owens since he is alive too. Max may need a whole lot help next and Dr Owens would be there for help.

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Lindsey Barrow
Lindsey Barrow

Could it be that max is instinctively keeping her mind dormant to protect herself from Vecna? Vecna can’t enter your mind if it’s not there or not working.

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Destination Cube
Destination Cube

Vecna said that in season 3 he siphoned her powers to use it this season. if he is able to do that i wonder what all Eleven can truly do. I hope in season 5 they show how she brought Max back.

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jonathanಠ_ಠ
jonathanಠ_ಠ

@Morpheus its a technicality. Since she did technically die, vecna's 4 kills he needed were granted which opened the portal. But eleven brought her back. Remember dr brenner said that vecna consumes his victims. Since vecna did technically kill her, he consumed her meaning her body was in tact, but max's conscious belonged to vecna. That would also explain why when eleven jumped into max while she was in the coma, she saw nothing. Im asusming if they can kill vecna, then max will wake up since her body is still alive.

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July T
July T

@Luvv Sushi I was thinking something similar but how vecna can control the mind flayer I think El should be able to do that

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Orlando Vazquez
Orlando Vazquez

@Emirates Aviation yea but her soul and mind are part of vecna now until he posses her body acting like max but at the same time being vecna

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Emirates Aviation
Emirates Aviation

Eleven used her powers to make her heart beat so she isn’t dead.

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GRACE jerkovich
GRACE jerkovich

@Cakewaa rude

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Spazzy Magee
Spazzy Magee

The most upsetting part for me is Eddie died being thought of as a murderer when he was truly a hero😔

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Spaghetti_TNT
Spaghetti_TNT

RIP Eddie😔 probably one of the best characters in stranger things, and one of the saddest deaths alongside Alexei and Bob.

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Russell
Russell

The season finale was not what I hoped it would be. I think that fully killing Max would've been shocking. Instead, they played it safe and killed newbie Eddie.

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gloria simmons
gloria simmons

@Darryl Davies literally 😭

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gloria simmons
gloria simmons

@HMTQNikita Shakur yeah me too and idk why

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Darryl Davies
Darryl Davies

Why they do Eddie so dirty..robin should have gone, the most annoying character on the show by far lol

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DB
DB

Yeau they played it safe in parts but I know and can predict where they're going with it.

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HMTQNikita Shakur
HMTQNikita Shakur

@CermaDanger I was under the impression ST4 was IT. like, done! it's over. no? can't stand Max and her attitude.

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Skullface
Skullface

Tbh I really like the theory that they did destroy Vecnas physical form but it turned to dust by the time they got down to where he would be so I think he probably did become in a spiritual form or something and merged with the mind flayer which he created

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Timothy S
Timothy S

I really hate that Eddie died. Him playing Metallica on top of the house was absolutely badass.

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Noxtrath
Noxtrath

Max's scene on the last episode was SO powerful and the acting was spot on cant wait for the next season

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Yannick Reid
Yannick Reid

Very well done and organized synopsis, thank you very much

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Abnormally Large Monkey
Abnormally Large Monkey

If they’re doing a time jump in season 5, I wonder how it would work out. Like would they be in a large battle or would the world be in a bad state because of all the ashes?

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Nate Corwin
Nate Corwin

Hopefully Dustin proves his best buds innocence

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Nate Corwin
Nate Corwin

@bertmustin why can’t they both be?

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bertmustin
bertmustin

I thought Steve was his best bud.

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Halo916
Halo916

Unless Hawkins learns of the upside-down in full Eddie is going to be guilty to the public

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Joseph Bruno
Joseph Bruno

@X2scepten they were only interested in the other club members bc they could have lead them to eddie. After the town learns ge died in the quake. (In the towns eyes)There's nothing else to worry about concerning the hellfire club. And why they all walk around freely

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Weirdo101
Weirdo101

I actually cried at the end because of the emotion of the characters

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Paulo Henrique
Paulo Henrique

12:36 it’s just me, OR you too can see a spider 🕷 8 legs and the abdomen in the ash cloud?! That’s just amazing.

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Kendick
Kendick

This ending reminds me of avengers infinity war, despite of them trying to take down the threat, they failed, their world fell apart, they lost their loved ones and now are watching the destruction. If season 5 is anything close to endgame, then either Will or Eleven will make the ultimate sacrifice

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