'So they knew': Ocasio-Cortez questions Exxon scientist on climate crisis denial

  • Am Vor 8 Monate

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    House Democrats on Wednesday laid out evidence that the oil behemoth ExxonMobil had known since the 1970s about the potential for a climate crisis and intentionally sowed doubt about it. One of those testifying was Martin Hoffert, a scientist consultant for Exxon Research and Engineering in the 1980s. Responding to the New York congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Hoffert testified that in 1982, Exxon scientists predicted how carbon dioxide levels would rise and heat the planet as humans burned more fossil fuels
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Vor 8 Monate
Darren Bellenger
Darren Bellenger

@duustin crawford I didn't know she said that thanks. I think I need to get my affairs in order quick.

Vor 8 Monate
Bruce Hudson
Bruce Hudson

@duustin crawford Quoting millennials does not misrepresent science. The questions were not scientific, though were robust and enabled the scientist to give an easy to understand and explicit answer. Referring to other people's hyperbole (as AOC did and in the context she did) is fine.

Vor 8 Monate
duustin crawford
duustin crawford

If you would read/comprehend my previous post, you would know that wasn't my point. My point is she should not be "quoting millennials". She should only stick to the science. Once you, as a politician start misrepresenting the science...you give the deniers fuel for their fire. There is no place for hyperbole when comes to things of scientific importance.

Vor 8 Monate
Bruce Hudson
Bruce Hudson

@duustin crawford Whether or not AOC made the statement about the world ending in 12 years (or was quoting millennials as saying that) does not diminish the validity of AOC's questions above, nor the answer that Dr Martin Hoffert's 1982 predictions were accurate. The significance is that Exxon Mobil knew.

Vor 8 Monate
duustin crawford
duustin crawford

@Christoffer Gernow no I do not watch Tucker Carlson or any other climate change denier, you'd know this if you actually read my previous posts on this thread. You are probably correct about what she was likely reffering to, but using hyperbole about important scientific matters is still a huge problem. When you say things like the world is ending in 12 years, people will use that to try and say that climate scientists dont known what they are talking about. It is of extreme importance to be accurate on these matters, for that very reason. You cant just let the people who you like say things that are scientifically inaccurate. V the person I was responding to, called me a liar and said that she never said it at all.

Vor 8 Monate
Mafian
Mafian

What's her point though.

Vor 3 Tage
da Pisa
da Pisa

she is a bae

Vor 5 Tage
Mahkai Michel
Mahkai Michel

Yes

Vor 7 Tage
Yesha Croe
Yesha Croe

🤣

Vor 7 Tage
Giacomo Campanelli
Giacomo Campanelli

Disclaimer: it was theorised even before that the globe would warm and that the climate would change by half of 1800

Vor 10 Tage
Ella Murthi
Ella Murthi

my QUEEN

Vor 11 Tage
Auburn Trees
Auburn Trees

almost like how nobody knows 5000 people die by starvation due to poverty each day but who cares about addressing that amiright ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vor 17 Tage
alex Nym
alex Nym

Sue these corporations for melted glaciers and climate change and more!

Vor Monat
Lam Par
Lam Par

Of course they knew, ExxonMobil has its own group of scientists, engineers and researchers. It is a very rich and big multi national oil corporation.

Vor Monat
10.000 Watt
10.000 Watt

So they knew what?? Does she even know what she is talking about? She is opposing to science right now claiming that they are the illuminati?

Vor Monat
randy tabron
randy tabron

There is no climate change

Vor 3 Monate
Kartik Mahajan
Kartik Mahajan

Left newspapers are trying so hard to portray her as a hero which she is not.

Vor 3 Monate
Moonfleet20
Moonfleet20

Aoc grills a scientist? What a laughable line. This women is so stupid she couldn't grill a stake in a open pit. Any thumbnail promoting her is hard to take seriously

Vor 4 Monate
MR IT409
MR IT409

There are approximately 1000 elite athletes playing in each of the major sports at one time ...there is a list of companies called the Fortune 1000...should the CEO's of those companies earn as much as those athletes?$7.7 million The average NBA player salary is $7.7 million for the season that starts on Tuesday and will run through June 2020. That number is up from an average salary of almost $6.4 million for the previous season, according to Basketball Reference.Oct 22, 2019

Vor 5 Monate
Romain Morlans
Romain Morlans

I discover Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez from France ... and I'll follow her ! she's great !

Vor 5 Monate
bodyman 50
bodyman 50

This coming from a person that didn't know what a garbage disposal was. The only thing she knows is the script put in front of her to read. Compliments of her masters.

Vor 5 Monate
dr rd
dr rd

We have known for decades that they have known. Where has she been? She is not bright in the head, is she! Look into your history. There was a court case where the scientist were trying to expose Exxon Mobil for covering up the climate data they found. There's articles and documentaries written about this. Why is she acting like she just found out new information?

Vor 6 Monate
Gary O
Gary O

IM SURE IT WILL BECAUSE OF CHINA AND INDIA  NOT THE USA  THEY HAVE 7 TIMES THE PEOPLE AS US.  AND EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD  AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DOING THE REAL POLLUTING ................. NOT US................

Vor 6 Monate
Himself Lee
Himself Lee

Most companies would agree with hysteria in order to get their grant money. A report from Oil Change International (OCI) investigated American energy industry subsidies and found that in 2015–2016, the federal government provided $14.7bn per year to the oil, gas, and coal industries, on top of $5.8bn of state-level incentives (globally, the figure is around $500bn).

Vor 6 Monate
bonnememoires
bonnememoires

all air heads

Vor 6 Monate
jleon grae
jleon grae

Aoc  quack  quack  quack

Vor 6 Monate
David T
David T

One thing wrong with that chart it has not rose 1 degree or reached 415. It is right now snowing a lot in southern California ,not in the mountains . No forever drought ,wrong about no snow in 10 years 15 years ago. CO2 is 0.04 of our atmosphere. Less than 350 parts it freezes. The world will not be ending from co2 in 12 years. She is not smart

Vor 6 Monate
Dan Sanger
Dan Sanger

"Less than 350 parts it freezes." Atmospheric CO2 levels passed 350 ppm around 1988. Was the earth frozen before 1988?

Vor 6 Monate
Jay Cash
Jay Cash

I can't believe people. Everyone is bashing her on other videos with the ex executive of ice debate! Now everyone on her loves her. It's like a trend. If she's right then love her if she's wrong then bash her. Choose y'all side

Vor 6 Monate
john Taylor
john Taylor

Maybe the comments are from different people? You are not excellent scientist

Vor 3 Monate
P K
P K

If this woman becomes president one day the world will change for the better

Vor 6 Monate
Rahmat Kristomi
Rahmat Kristomi

Really?

Vor 3 Monate
Armando Resendez
Armando Resendez

Dunning-Kruger effect

Vor 7 Monate
Moonfleet20
Moonfleet20

Yep you're smart enough to know better unlike aoc supporters

Vor 4 Monate
Tom Smith
Tom Smith

So do any of the AOC circle jerkoffs here want to point me in the direction of a workable plan by AOC to stop/reduce the CO2 growth, along with NUMBERS proving what she is going to do, how it's going to be done, and specifically by how much she plans to reduce the CO2 growth?

Vor 7 Monate
Jonas Milton
Jonas Milton

Peep the green new deal, Mr. Smith.

Vor 2 Monate
Ernesto Vaffan-Kulo 93
Ernesto Vaffan-Kulo 93

I have never ever seen or heard of a western Politicians who's as gifted as AOC. I hope they don't shoot her like they did w King or X, bc she's at their level at least, if not more

Vor 7 Monate
Ernesto Vaffan-Kulo 93
Ernesto Vaffan-Kulo 93

If you can think in four dimensions you can clearly understand that the lobbyists and executives that hid this info from us all have generated more suffering and more deaths that multiple WW2 together ... and that's the very-optimistic case in which the Humanity survives Climate Change. Otw. they are just responsible for the end of Humanity ... Exxon Mobil executives know since the 1970s at least ... Criminal is not a strong enough word to name these guys

Vor 7 Monate
Paul Muller
Paul Muller

Bernie Sanders !

Vor 7 Monate
Samuc Trebla
Samuc Trebla

The first climate model including GH effects (Which was discovered by Fourier) is something 150 y-o. When will you "know" that economic growth is proportional to energy consumption, lead at 80% by fossil fuels for physical reasons (energy compacity and low energy extraction ratio) ?

Vor 7 Monate
The Mongoose
The Mongoose

More CO2 means more trees equals more oxygen more oxygen and trees means more rain. Fact the earth is much greener today..

Vor 7 Monate
Leon Müller
Leon Müller

That is such a wrong assumption

Vor 4 Monate
Hulagan 808
Hulagan 808

Only the Left can spin such stupidity. Flame on o’ triggered ones. The only thing making sea levels rise or carbon increasing is all your crying and bellowing. AOC doesn’t have a clue, and neither do you.

Vor 7 Monate
Dan Sanger
Dan Sanger

There is a scientific consensus, and AOC is not the one denying it. You and your ilk are. If anyone is being triggered it is you being triggered by AOC and legitimate science and scientists.

Vor 6 Monate
Angela Chua
Angela Chua

And very beautiful

Vor 7 Monate
Angela Chua
Angela Chua

She’s amazing

Vor 7 Monate
Lauren Chatman
Lauren Chatman

Angela Chua, Let me guess, you're a millenial?

Vor 6 Monate
Nina Baykova
Nina Baykova

I see this problem all across the board, somehow it's very hard to explain to some modern people (the younger "Celebrities") that scientists really do predict certain things correctly even going back further than the 80's.

Vor 7 Monate
Linz Earth
Linz Earth

The CO2 emissions of the entire planet are made up of only 4% Anthropogenic so blaming all of the alleged warming on Human activity is ridiculous. Other science suggests that only 0.38C of warming has occurred.Climate alarmism cares little about real Science. All those predictions since 1988 came to nothing. Nonsense not Science.

Vor 7 Monate
Jim R
Jim R

Any time AOC is willing to debate Tony Heller on Climate Change, or Ben Shapiro on anything else... I understand the invitations remain open.

Vor 7 Monate
Dan Sanger
Dan Sanger

None of those three people is a climate scientist. Of those three, only AOC supports the scientific consensus. Any debate on the subject should take place among qualified climate scientists in the pages of peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Vor 6 Monate
Tore Foncello
Tore Foncello

Iz crisi ma chi comanda al momento della storia delle finanze finanzia la storia del problema perché loro l'anno creato il plastico e loro lo eliminano senza problemi perché non ci sono basta ripiegarsi le maniche e tutto va bene non ne casca il mondo per cuesto basta solo farlo e bo una mano lava l'altra è tutte due lava la facia ecc

Vor 8 Monate
leo lupo
leo lupo

HOW DARE YOU

Vor 8 Monate
Eline Linda ZagovaWinterSong
Eline Linda ZagovaWinterSong

So they know now...

Vor 8 Monate
Alec Robinson
Alec Robinson

"We were excellent scientists" cracked me up. Spoken like someone who knows he's going to lose, but really wants his one-liner in his great-grandchildren's history books.

Vor 8 Monate
midnighfairy
midnighfairy

The rich girl tell us we have to get rid of the white man right?? But she is rich girl her father is a multimillionaire, her boyfriend is white with a red beard and she is telling us to leave the country???? Screw you!!!

Vor 8 Monate
crankylifter
crankylifter

Such incredible hypocrisy.

Vor 8 Monate
matias rozas
matias rozas

Wow i’m in love ♥️

Vor 8 Monate
Ron Fischer
Ron Fischer

this kind of coverup needs to result in criminal charges and fines big enough to destroy the perpetrators.

Vor 8 Monate
Pinnacle e
Pinnacle e

...tigress on prowl....love her attitude.......

Vor 8 Monate
GrkFreak
GrkFreak

Record breaking cold and snow all around the world this fall.. figure that out

Vor 8 Monate
Christopher Aparicio
Christopher Aparicio

Damn I just love this women. Don't mess with Latin women.

Vor 8 Monate
kitsey2
kitsey2

yes they tend to be very violent and aggressive when they don't get their way. Bobbit remember?

Vor 8 Monate
J W
J W

Latin women remind me of gypsies

Vor 8 Monate
Freedom Pray-er
Freedom Pray-er

Hit like just because she is hot.🤷

Vor 8 Monate
Don Page
Don Page

What she fails to mention is : Her DAILY fuel usage is eight times that of the average US citizen .

Vor 8 Monate
magnethomewood
magnethomewood

I'd love to see AOC as President of USA.

Vor 8 Monate
LordMichaelRahl
LordMichaelRahl

AOC doing God's work.

Vor 8 Monate
kitsey2
kitsey2

No she is not. She works for Devils who will do anything to get back in charge of the tax pool.

Vor 8 Monate
Total Recoil
Total Recoil

Would smash

Vor 8 Monate
BurnGiordano
BurnGiordano

Yes, they knew. We are peering into a reality that shouldn't exist, and not into one which should, for how much of a sense left people have to notice the measure things have been derided and how much we have now falls short. Maybe early capability for recognition could steer?

Vor 8 Monate
azza4044
azza4044

Why do you only show a 1.24 min clip?

Vor 8 Monate
Darren Z
Darren Z

You have to be very selective when it comes to this chick. Longer clips tend to expose how dumb she really is.

Vor 2 Monate
Paul Muller
Paul Muller

To spread the message quickly, and therefore to everyone.

Vor 7 Monate
Danny P
Danny P

dont you have to educationally qualified to serve in Congress?

Vor 8 Monate
Gavin Bissell
Gavin Bissell

Yeah we knew the temperature would increase from a below average period and co2 would reflect that...

Vor 8 Monate
Phil Reed
Phil Reed

So they new ....so the new what exactly?... they new that an increase in C02 levels to 450ppm still wouldn't be as high as it was on earth 500,000 years ago.... but did they predict the benefit of increased C02?... you ask what benefit... well that would be the huge benefit that higher C02 level increase farm crop growth and increase the abundance of food and vegetation on the earth .. oh everyone forgot to talk about we now have more vegetables, legumes and fruit than we had with lesser levels of C02.

Vor 8 Monate
tstor100
tstor100

You should read the papers not just watch the videos. They predicted a lot of other stuff. Like global economy crisis. Ecological disasters. Just things like that. Have fun eating your vegetables.

Vor 7 Monate
Appable
Appable

Uh, no. The ice core data (800kya to ~present) does not go above 300ppm. It certainly does not go to 450ppm.

Vor 8 Monate
Juan Carlos Alonso
Juan Carlos Alonso

She’s the best in congress, by far.

Vor 8 Monate
jk jkk
jk jkk

@Morlock1943 it's like a teenage bartender girl tried to "expose" your company's CEO, it's like a kid trying to beat down a grown up man, as a grown-up your kinda confused and tied, as you always have been politically correct to children, just look at her face at the video thumbnail, disgusting, let her at least marry and raise some kids, so she may have a little understanding.

Vor 8 Monate
Morlock1943
Morlock1943

@jk jkk When it comes to expose corruption and misuse of power in the american society she is doing a fine job.

Vor 8 Monate
jk jkk
jk jkk

She's a teenage bar tender....

Vor 8 Monate
GERRY ROBBERTSON
GERRY ROBBERTSON

America if this women is not your President within the next 10 years you are dummies

Vor 8 Monate
astrogypsy
astrogypsy

Well, we haven't exactly been at our best of late.

Vor 7 Monate
Lilbaz
Lilbaz

Have we had a bot post that it's just plant food yet? Should be about due.

Vor 8 Monate
AzzWalk
AzzWalk

She's adorable!

Vor 8 Monate
J L
J L

they've known for decades. let the climate skeptics know!!!

Vor 8 Monate
ginsengaddict
ginsengaddict

Where's the rest of this?? I want more!!!

Vor 8 Monate
Ricky Westley
Ricky Westley

What else did they “know”? And also what are there political views?

Vor 8 Monate
Sem Nome
Sem Nome

I wonder if the projections include the increasing oil exploration or if they assumed constant or decreasing exploration.

Vor 8 Monate
L N
L N

This makes me angry because they have so much power and we haven't been able to make real progress. If it were up to the rich and powerful we would live in smug worse than that of China.

Vor 8 Monate
ffsneednamealltaken
ffsneednamealltaken

I’d love to wear her glasses

Vor 8 Monate
jared robinson
jared robinson

soo they knew that over 30 years the temperature would go up by 1 degree and and co2 would raise to 400 parts per MILLION (not a lot ) …..wow we should all start building bunkers ..in 100 years the weather could be 3 degrees warmer ..we just couldn't handle that...what a joke

Vor 8 Monate
Subjagator
Subjagator

Weather != Climate. All those hurricanes and tornadoes and floods happening at increased rates, ever wonder where they get their energy from? Increased global temperatures means increases in wind speeds and an increase in moisture in the atmosphere, hot air, fast winds and lots of water tend to result in those kinds of things.

Vor 8 Monate
cellonpot
cellonpot

AOC AOK!

Vor 8 Monate
live let liv
live let liv

Question is does climate follow C02 or C02 follow climate? And has the earth's temperature officially raised a degree since the 80s?

Vor 8 Monate
Appable
Appable

Climate isn't a number. You mean temperature. A degree is arbitrary; we can see mean temperatures at much higher resolution than one degree celsius. Temperature and greenhouse gases are correlated such that they both affect each other

Vor 8 Monate
nagualdesign
nagualdesign

I don't get it. The headlines appear to focus on how Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has "revealed" what climate scientists knew in the late '80s. This was no secret at the time, as I recall. They told us all about it! If Exxon tried to "sow doubt" about the climate crisis that's not something I'm aware of, nor is that explained by this video. Is the point here that _30 years ago_ an oil company had its own self-interests? If so, stop the press! This li'l lady deserves a tiara, right?

Vor 8 Monate
Brett B
Brett B

the IPCC (which didn't exist then but some of the same scientists) only changed its tune then - probably as a result of better science: in my boyhood during the 1970s they were warning us about advancing glaciers (the glaciers advanced from 1940s to 1970s to be fair) including the vaunted James Hansen

Vor 8 Monate
Pump O Gamer
Pump O Gamer

This woman can literally end someone’s entire career in one phrase.

Vor 8 Monate
Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf

@Bmw EM , says the racist.

Vor 11 Tage
Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf

@Dirty Rat Maljoboltan , because she repeatedly said she is not taking money from corporations. That "charity money" is coming from corporate America. You're going to make me believe regular every day people are donating money to hear her debate corrupted politicians? Give me a break!

Vor 11 Tage
Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf

@Bmw EM , an expected line from those who dislike her. You immediately seek racist remarks, but it only displays your ignorance.

Vor 11 Tage
Eren Vaughn
Eren Vaughn

Just with its stare.

Vor Monat
dr rd
dr rd

Emmm.....this is late to the party. I am an environmental major and I literally done a paper on the work by the scientist at Exxon Mobil. There was a court case where they scientist were sueing Exxon Mobil for dismissing their data. This has been known for decades that Exxon Mobil knew about climate change. There's documenties on this subject.

Vor 6 Monate
Mr Anon
Mr Anon

Aoc is so hot

Vor 8 Monate
Brett B
Brett B

she was: starting to look old and mean already. better find out who Nancy's plastic surgeon is

Vor 8 Monate
G04t33 McGee
G04t33 McGee

guess i found all the commies

Vor 8 Monate
Demotator Highlights
Demotator Highlights

Democrats the party she is in, also knew I might add so don't blame find solution but that's not she will do I bet

Vor 8 Monate
Adam
Adam

The plan i think is to kill of most of the non white people

Vor 8 Monate
Adam
Adam

Yeah they knew

Vor 8 Monate
Ultra Instinct Gogeta
Ultra Instinct Gogeta

Of course they knew, the climates been changing since before mankind existed. They've been saying we're nearly out of time for 50+ years giving it more extentions then brexit...wake up

Vor 8 Monate
Subjagator
Subjagator

@Ultra Instinct Gogeta Every company pollutes so they can make more money for all the rich shareholders so clearly when they say that pollution isn't damaging the environment they must be telling the truth because why would they lie... Love your logic dude.

Vor 8 Monate
Brett B
Brett B

exactly - it was a set piece, the usual AOC she likes these gotcha clips, they make the Twitter feed hum and she gets another dollop of cash in the old Brand New Congress PAC (to transfer surreptitiously into Brand New Congress LLC later as 'consulting fees')

Vor 8 Monate
Ultra Instinct Gogeta
Ultra Instinct Gogeta

@Christoffer Gernow urrrrrrrgh!!!!! EVERY COMPANY POLLUTES NAME ME ONE THAT HAS NO CARBON FOOTPRINT AT ALL... people want the lives technology can give us an technology pollutes. There will be another ice age reguardless, if humans never existed the climate would still change.

Vor 8 Monate
Christoffer Gernow
Christoffer Gernow

maybe use should wake up. Is that the best explanation that you can give for a company like exxon mobile not doing anything about the climate crisis. Exxon mobil is one of the companies that pollute most on earth

Vor 8 Monate

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