SLS VS Starship: Why does SLS still exist?!

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    NASA just announced the lunar landers for the Artemis program and to everyone’s surprise, SpaceX’s MASSIVE Starship is actually one of the landers NASA chose alongside Blue Origin and Dynetics.
    And this is bringing up a lot of questions, some of which we’ll answer in my next video, “Should NASA just cancel SLS and use Starship and / or other commercial launchers for Artemis?”. But today I think we need to settle a lot of debates here first about these two rockets and now more than ever, it’s time we truly pit them head to head.
    Part II - Artemis VS Apollo HERE - de-film.com/v-video-9O15vipueLs.html
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    00:00 - Intro
    05:50 - What Makes a Vehicle a Super Heavy Lift Launcher
    09:00 - The History of SLS and Orion
    18:05 - The Progress and Inventory of SLS/Orion and Starship
    27:30 - The Philosophies of Starship and SLS
    34:55 - Starship VS SLS
    41:50 - Conclusion
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David Miles
David Miles

33:58 "Oh how right you were, TIm! SN4, SN8, SN9

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Dejan Eric
Dejan Eric

Spacex is a dumb fraud. Don't be a stupid fan boy. Educate yourself. You don't want to be that guy always fooled in life.

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SN9
SN9

Well you definetly didn't educate yourself

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Dwight Looi
Dwight Looi

SLS -- the Senate Laundering System -- exists because the US Senate Swamp exists. It's as simple as that.

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Floriduh Man
Floriduh Man

Government sucks at everything, and robs you to pay for it.

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Floriduh Man
Floriduh Man

🌽

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Floriduh Man
Floriduh Man

Always bet on the space cowboy. I'm forbidden from saying why.

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Avery Jerome Kelly
Avery Jerome Kelly

The Core Stage of SLS into ORBIT??? !!!!^ Could This Bode Some Kind of Super-SKYLAB Orbital Base???? This ABSOLUTELY BLOWS MY MIND What is the Payload Capacity to LEO if you boot-strap 4 SRB's onto the Core Stage? Do you happen to know, off hand?

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Brian Amaral
Brian Amaral

You’re a little too much of a SpaceX fanboy, Tim.

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Gerhard Heitmann
Gerhard Heitmann

I turned 70 two years ago and I´m excited that finally the story goes on with such ambitious persons like Elon. Hurry up, I will witness landings on the moon and maybe on the mars as well.

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Mike Viard
Mike Viard

Second Time i see this épisode, it's like a master peace movie, i Can see that for ever.

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bookstops
bookstops

It is amazing how much has changed in a year.

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Don Bradstreet
Don Bradstreet

Thank you thank you. That was great.

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KLRJUNE
KLRJUNE

According to Soviet rocket engineer Boris Chertok the N1 in it's final configuration could carry little more than half of the original payload. All the fixes they used to try to get it to work added a lot of weight.

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Alwyn Watson
Alwyn Watson

NASA can't even land there rockets.

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Robin Blankenship
Robin Blankenship

At least we can be assured that all future NASA projects will be appropriately WOKE and polygender sensitive and BLM compliant, etc. Will the rockets work? Who cares, as long as we are socially progressive.

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Daniel Bonora
Daniel Bonora

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Through the Quantum
Through the Quantum

8:13 you got one of your facts wrong - BFR doesn't stand for "Big Falcon Rocket", it stands for "Big F*cking Rocket"

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Joseph Corbett
Joseph Corbett

It is a great video.

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Andrzej SQ9PKW
Andrzej SQ9PKW

it is so outdated just by 9 months later...

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Hing Yee
Hing Yee

Thanks and respect !

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Pedro Henrique Menegoli Tamaso
Pedro Henrique Menegoli Tamaso

need a update

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David Bloomfield
David Bloomfield

Great video on how horribly inefficient gov programs are.

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blackcoffee
blackcoffee

Were going hard. Best to ready the space mining gear, quickly!

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Stuart Brown
Stuart Brown

Brilliant Really enjoyed this Tim & Team Stuart in Ireland

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Shantelle Glab
Shantelle Glab

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Titan Knight
Titan Knight

SpaceX is totally going to make enterprise from Star Trek SHINY ROCKET GOOD

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SCE2AUX
SCE2AUX

Aesthetically speaking...SLS is a very pretty rocket.

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Carson Meltona
Carson Meltona

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Peter Boyle's

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paulmd2010
paulmd2010

Dude, your channel is the absolute best on the internet, and its not even close. Go team space!!!

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Philip Pleiss
Philip Pleiss

A bit late to comment, but I asked almost this exact question in a space enthusiast forum. It was like waving a steak in front of a bunch of starving hyenas. They got MAAD. Then, without replying to a single comment, the post got locked and eventually banned. By mods. Mods who worked at NASA, but were Boeing contractors, spewing platitudes like "rising tides lift all boats" and "we're all in this together" blah blah blah. Mentioning anything like Boeing's relationship with the people who approve NASA's budget, Senator Shelby's biggest financial donors, or the billions of dollars spent with no progress results in immediate flaming followed by bans.

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bigsid1984
bigsid1984

In other words the Saturn 5 pretty good rocket

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Octopus Goodness
Octopus Goodness

Nasa - Make sure it doesn't blow up BEFORE we test it. SpaceX- Blow it up til it doesn't anymore.

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Octopus Goodness
Octopus Goodness

"In case you have been living under a rock."

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William Smalley
William Smalley

this my fav video

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Tombibiche
Tombibiche

Sous titre en français svp !

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John jr. Radziwon
John jr. Radziwon

I retired from NASA shorty before the Shuttle program was still being used but still watch closely what NASA is doing now. I am pleased to see the progress that is being made using private companies.

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Walter Lopez
Walter Lopez

Hi Tim. Great job on the content and presentation! I would love to see an update on Apr 30, 2021. One year progress comparison.

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дрюно стоп
дрюно стоп

22:00

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Shin Chan
Shin Chan

28:34 that guy had a very long day in the control room

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dowetwork4192
dowetwork4192

My man, they just charged 330 million for a launch for lunar gateway, same excuse as charging more for half the launches As ula in Air Force contract? What is it

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Shadowfax2121
Shadowfax2121

Tim, you talked about that tractor and got me all invested in farming gear now!~

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Cory Crandell
Cory Crandell

now feb 2021... SN8 and 9 have flown... with 10 on the pad. you just can not keep up with SpaceX...

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Gabor Rajnai
Gabor Rajnai

We cant be sure that Starship will actually ever work. It wasn't tested in hypersonic flight regimes. NASA should have a contingency plan.

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EimajOzear
EimajOzear

National Team and Dynetics have lunar lander proposals and ULA and Blue Origin have launch vehicles to support them. That's contingency enough, surely?

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Elias Puolakka
Elias Puolakka

It really is boeing vs spacex. Nasa isn't building rockets they're just a customer thats offering funding for both systems. In the case of sls boeing is building a product for nasa in the case of starship spacex is offering a launch service to nasa.

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Michael Coffee
Michael Coffee

Why do Coke and Pepsi both exist?

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Hal Nordmann
Hal Nordmann

IMHO, the reason why NASA seems to innovate so little and is so slow is not because they can waste money - it is beacuse they can't. With their funding, they can barely sustain their current programs, even less trying something new. Innovation, optimization? Too risky, can't afford it. SpaceX can blow up rockets in the name of science, NASA has to beg for every bit of funding. It sounds absurd not being able to afford cost-optimization, and it is a shame that it is reality at NASA. Simply put, for SpaceX, failure is an option. For NASA, it is not. Also, I blame cost-plus contracts forced on NASA.

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Stuart Coutts
Stuart Coutts

The Saturn V was a beast... shoulda revamped that instead of the sls

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Богдан Благовирний
Богдан Благовирний

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Stefs Engineering
Stefs Engineering

crazy what has been accomplished by SpaceX regarding starship in the few months since this video released.

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spencer Jensen
spencer Jensen

I love the Iowa showing!! :)

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MuyMuy MG
MuyMuy MG

34:55

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Alberto R.
Alberto R.

Your videos are great and very informative, but you should stop chuckling all the time when you speak. It's very annoying.

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Cristiano Lo Medico
Cristiano Lo Medico

After this video I definitely love Iowa

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Whiteness Envy
Whiteness Envy

Spacex should use flux pinning to stop Starship in bellyflop above an electrically charged pad. The cold belly from sloshed liquid oxygen/methane on ceramic heat shield tiles can create a superconductor quantum locking situation that cushions, slows, and stops the rocket in mid air. Tim ask Elon if they have considered this. Just imagine seeing Starship (BFR) skydiving down to the pad, slowing, stopping, floating, and rotating like the actual BFG!

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Jacob Sawyer
Jacob Sawyer

I still love that intro

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stoneeh
stoneeh

Starship will cost 2 million $ to launch, SLS will cost 2 billion $ per launch. That's the difference between government work and private enterprise, everybody.

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EimajOzear
EimajOzear

Even if you use the most optimistic prices for steel ($0.60/kg), methalox ($0.20/kg) and the 34 Raptors ($250k each?), you get just shy of $10mil per Starship stack (SS + SH). That's just the raw materials. You also have labour, launch pads, insurance, etc leftover to pay. The $2mil figure is complete speculation and even if we assume it's accurate, it would require all of the raw materials (optimistically priced, too) to decrease in costs by 5x in order to just break even!

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FalloutPlays
FalloutPlays

Pretty amazing the support Elon gives this channel

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Rhys Morgan
Rhys Morgan

i personally call starship and superheavy the starship stack to be less confusing

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Joshua Major
Joshua Major

Just started watching yer vids...awesome...now i am sucked down the rabbit hole...yay space

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Light For Japan Productions
Light For Japan Productions

Where is the "next video" that Tim mentioned several times? I searched the channel carefully and couldn't find anything of the sort.

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Light For Japan Productions
Light For Japan Productions

@Hailey Hernandez I see that the video "Artemis vs. Apollo" is considered Part II, but it's not about whether NASA should cancel SLS and just use commercial launchers instead (see 0:18), so I thought there was some other video I was missing.

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Hailey Hernandez
Hailey Hernandez

It's in the description lol

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Bob Daye
Bob Daye

Neither rocket exists. But I do believe SLS will be cancelled unless SpaceX cannot deliver the Gateway to lunar orbit.

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Howard Xian
Howard Xian

NASA should just sell the whole SLS program to China or India to cut lost.

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EimajOzear
EimajOzear

ITAR

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wade woehrmann
wade woehrmann

From Iowa so was Kirk. :)

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Just Headdie
Just Headdie

Hey, any chance of a "1 year on" of this video? especially with SpaceX continuing to use the "Poke it until it explodes" testing method

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Donald Christensen
Donald Christensen

Love this video! Love your analogy of offering to sell a modern tractor to a 1800's farmer that wants to buy a plow that's draw by a horse. It puts it more into perspective. I can now forgive NASA for not instantly jumping onboard with Starship.

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goatofpower
goatofpower

Because giving jobs to certain states is more important than real progress in space?

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Tiny Rick
Tiny Rick

SN 9 Just launched yesterday. they are unbeleivably fast

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ralphss434
ralphss434

I live 30 miles away and Saw it in person and that was just with 3 raptor engines

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José Da Franca Taborda
José Da Franca Taborda

Can you redo this video when elon presents sl16? PLZ, its such an indept video, so smart.. and starship evolved so much since this vid

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RC:1136 Darman
RC:1136 Darman

Capitalism for the win, I guess.

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H S

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Ceyhun ay
Ceyhun ay

I'm 6 minutes into the video and you didn't truly start explaining anything regardingthe title. I don't mean hate, I just want to point out why you might have so much dislike despite the subject matter being an interesting one.

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Keith Hopkins
Keith Hopkins

True

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Drino Zhao
Drino Zhao

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max mustermann
max mustermann

ULA CEO: orange rocket=bad Delta IV: nobody likes me

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Fabian Seewald
Fabian Seewald

sry one thing is the best......... at least until there is the next thing

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hi im bittu
hi im bittu

Hey Tim.. I think its time to revisit this video and make a new one... Now a days there are only live streams around.. Thanks..

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Heart Rock
Heart Rock

32:57 me laughing in G phrygian dominant in 7/4 time signature 🤣🤣

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Lugul banda
Lugul banda

nasa isnt even be able to build the most powerfull rocket they had again and thats the Saturn 5 wich is bigger then both tiny rockets he talks here about...

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Tozl
Tozl

Pls inform you before talking.

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SN9
SN9

And SLS is too

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Tozl
Tozl

Starship is more powerfull and bigger than Saturn 5

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fritz eder
fritz eder

In Gov or University projects, 90% of the time goes into applying for funds and reporting. Really, when I saw SN - wings, I thought it is a joke! But than, after your interview with EM, I started thinking how EM is thinking. I may say, it influeced my life in the most positive way.

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Daniel Rose
Daniel Rose

I would say the probability that the Nazis / separate advanced humans have antigravity vehicles and other secret technologies is 99.9% likely. But....

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DarkTheFailure
DarkTheFailure

Ah yes the nation who couldn't figure out how to make a rocket go up for a long time made anti gravity

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Eric R
Eric R

Orange man bad; sorry, I mean’t orange rocket bad.

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Kerbal X
Kerbal X

If your not team space your not a real space fan

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Davidz Kitchen Tips
Davidz Kitchen Tips

Awesome !!!

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Warren Bosch
Warren Bosch

Superb presentation! Thank you!!!

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Thunder Bird
Thunder Bird

its cool thinking of a space x and nasa space race

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dyerarch
dyerarch

I saw Sputnik. At 74, my goal and my hope is to live long enough to see the beginnings of human population of the Moon!

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Shivam Badoni
Shivam Badoni

those space cowboys are landing boosters boy.

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Alfredo Silva
Alfredo Silva

@Everyday Astronaut, thanks for this very elaborate & comprehensive video. Loved it!

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The PNolandS
The PNolandS

NGL, I am a little annoyed that we (humans) figured out 50 years ago how to get to the moon and back with a single launch, and now we’re talking about possibly 3 launches for one landing when we now have significantly more powerful rockets than the Saturn V.

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Juan Channel
Juan Channel

Who will wil Nasa rocket The Big F***** Rocket

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Heintje Kudell
Heintje Kudell

no doubt ,Nasa can be so happy and proud to have spacex near by , sls=senceless loss of source

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XspopX
XspopX

This video didn't need to happen. They should launch at the same time and race to Mars to see who's better B)

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Alan Morris
Alan Morris

Informative and enjoyable videos to watch. 👍

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Quint Van Giessen
Quint Van Giessen

Why doesn’t Elon musk try and build an SSTO

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DarkTheFailure
DarkTheFailure

Because it's very difficult. Go Tim's other video on SSTO, very well explained why it hasn't been used and why its very hard. IRL is much much harder then kerbal

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Адепт Пустоты
Адепт Пустоты

I don't know exactly, but starship will be kind of SSTO, but I'm not sure

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Filip Woliński
Filip Woliński

SLS: super planned and thought rocket program SpaceX: haha KSP irl go brrrr

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Montpup
Montpup

Why do you hate ULA?

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Everyday Astronaut
Everyday Astronaut

??? I don’t? What does this video have to do with ULA? 😂

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