Skywest CRJ-200 suffers DEPRESSURIZATION at 32,000 Feet | Emergency Descent

  • Am Vor 4 Monate

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    Dauer: 06:08

    Skywest CRJ-200 performing from Denver to Prescott was enroute at FL320 and not responding to any ATC call on normal or Guard frequencies.
    Pilots finally declared the emergency repoting pressurization issues, donned their oxygen masks and descended to Prescott.
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Donna Lynn
Donna Lynn

ATC's......Wow!! Very impressive!

Vor 2 Tage
geordannik
geordannik

Interesting that ZAB CTR wasnt permitting the lower altitude, I thought once you declared an emergency you could do whatever you needed...

Vor 2 Tage
rooster sideburbs
rooster sideburbs

why is this edited to take out vital info

Vor Monat
Caleb McBrier
Caleb McBrier

Its not a Mitsubishi crj-200...

Vor Monat
Walker Donovan
Walker Donovan

Holy shit. Those passengers must have been going crazy. 20,000 fpm decent rate

Vor Monat
Dremwolf
Dremwolf

Kind of surprised with a loss of pressurization and an emergency descent that this mishap did not make the news.

Vor Monat
Expat214
Expat214

It really pisses me off when people who's sole professional purpose is to comprehend audio communications can't do so competently. This happened to me about a year ago when I called in to report a suspected drunk driver to 911. I read out the plate with military alpha phonetic designations and it took repeating it four separate times for the operator to copy on a clean line. Zero excuse for that.

Vor Monat
Rob P
Rob P

Mitsubishi! 😂 You do a good job. But that research SUCKED! 😂😂😂 #bombardier

Vor Monat
Peseta Maya
Peseta Maya

They forgot to ask on the emergency Souls on board and how many pounds of fuel

Vor Monat
pop5678eye
pop5678eye

2:12 If this is live speed replay without edit that jet got from 320 to 120 in one minute! That's a 20K FPM descent rate! Is the replay sped up? (I'm not quite familiar with what CRJs are capable of)

Vor 2 Monate
Tommy Chan
Tommy Chan

the pilot was clam as fuck he almost lost an engine but no other assistance required lol

Vor 2 Monate
ChloeLouiseeB
ChloeLouiseeB

I wish the safety brief explained that if the masks come down the nose is going down to save your life. People who don’t know how it works are probably terrified by the plane suddenly diving after masks come down Additionally in covid are you meant to remove your face mask to apply your oxygen mask or do you put it over?

Vor 2 Monate
GemCat
GemCat

Safety briefs before flights clarify that the mask can come off when the O2 masks drop.

Vor 2 Monate
Wray Day
Wray Day

When no pressure is nothing but pressure.

Vor 2 Monate
Christopher Beaumont
Christopher Beaumont

How do Albuquerque controllers resist laughter or doing impressions when asking Aircraft to turn left. . . . . . .

Vor 2 Monate
EightPawsProductions
EightPawsProductions

Gotta love those MITSUBISHI CRJ-200s - certainly ONE OF A KIND.

Vor 2 Monate
tchevrier
tchevrier

I wonder why they weren't responding

Vor 2 Monate
Marc Dufresne
Marc Dufresne

you need clearance for the outer marker ( who is that guy who gives it to you?) what does tower on guard mean? .. and what does SQUAWK command mean ?

Vor 3 Monate
drivver44
drivver44

squawk is a special code that allows for atc to understand a planes current condition its also why the plane had a red EM message above the plane on the radar

Vor 6 Tage
phapnui
phapnui

What does "on guard" mean?

Vor 3 Monate
phapnui
phapnui

@UK Outdoors Thanks for the good explanation.

Vor 3 Monate
UK Outdoors
UK Outdoors

It's a radio frequency that all aircraft must monitor that is not used for normal traffic control purposes, only emergencies or in unusual circumstances. So if for instance a pilot changes frequency but inputs the wrong one, he can still be called by ATC.

Vor 3 Monate
The Tiger Driver
The Tiger Driver

Fantastic controller.

Vor 3 Monate
lsiisi btidri
lsiisi btidri

🌟🌟🌟Great job to the pilots and the controller!!. Have any Japanese in here ?: 👋https://www.youtube.com/user/the100492?sub_confirmation=1

Vor 3 Monate
JVRaines
JVRaines

If you have declared an emergency and are descending to 10,000 ft so your passengers don't suffocate, shouldn't the reply to "Maintain 11,000" be "Unable"?

Vor 3 Monate
Lauri Uusitalo
Lauri Uusitalo

But if there is ground at 10500 it would be better stay at 11k. Emergency descend is done to 10k, unless high ground prohibits that.

Vor Monat
Hawker75
Hawker75

A possible reason for them not hearing or answering radio calls could be when they got the cabin altitude master caution or warning, they may have removed their masks from the bin in preparation. This automatically activates the mask microphone. If they did not put the masks on right away, the radios would have been coming from inside their masks and not through the normal source. They probably had a slow leak and not a rapid decompression issue. This is why they were working through the checklists that ultimately led them to make the decision for an emergency descent. There is no conspiracy or wrong doing here people. Use a little logic.

Vor 3 Monate
Max V
Max V

I’m probably very ignorant but why is this Albuquerque tracom instead of Phoenix tracom

Vor 3 Monate
J
J

Think they might have had their attention diverted (sleeping), missed top of descent due to inattention, and called an emergency descent to get them back on the glide slope?

Vor 3 Monate
Hawker75
Hawker75

Absolutely no. Please don’t ever become a pilot.

Vor 3 Monate
VASAviation -
VASAviation -

No

Vor 3 Monate
Steven
Steven

Just curious, but once an emergency has been declared, why are there still altitude restrictions at certain areas when the pilot has asked for it? Terrain?

Vor 3 Monate
Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

It can also be to keep the aircraft in controlled airspace, but not in this case.

Vor 3 Monate
Hawker75
Hawker75

Yes

Vor 3 Monate
Micah
Micah

A Skywest "Mitsubishi" CRJ -200?

Vor 3 Monate
Jan Witts
Jan Witts

It's about time that all these warnings were auto transmitted ... so that everyone knows you have depressurized.... with modern tech you could have all of this and on board video etc with no real cost issues..

Vor 3 Monate
Kate Smith
Kate Smith

Of course it's skywest, their planes have tons of problems

Vor 3 Monate
kyleahoff
kyleahoff

Ha. Prescott is one of those places that the locals pronounce it differently than everyone else. You can hear the tower controller say it "Preskit"

Vor 3 Monate
N8CRE8S
N8CRE8S

Something worth noting: even greater props is owed to both the ZAB controller and Prescott Tower controller. KPRC has a very high amount of pilot training at the field, and a tremendous amount of GA traffic that is both local, and from additional flight schools to the south. What you're not seeing or hearing in this video is the amount of juggling that inevitably happens anytime an emergency happens near a busy or flight training airfield. Props to all involved for taking care of the right issues in the right order.

Vor 3 Monate
willlasdf123
willlasdf123

Never gonna get used to seeing "Mitsubishi" CRJ200

Vor 3 Monate
TheRotorhound
TheRotorhound

Don’t know if the FAA still offers high altitude training in their OKC chamber. It was a very enlightening experience and everyone reacts differently to hypoxia. I thought I would be short of breath but no, you just can’t think and one breath of oxygen is like a dark curtain lifts up. Some people get giddy. Great training.

Vor 3 Monate
Gabe Rodriguez
Gabe Rodriguez

I’m curious. How do you get these atc communications and the radars for these?

Vor 3 Monate
Tom Bowie
Tom Bowie

If I was doing that there would be aircraft and body parts for miles around.

Vor 3 Monate
mtnairpilot
mtnairpilot

You sure it's a Mitsubishi? I thought CRJs were Canadair.

Vor 3 Monate
ysfsim
ysfsim

It got sold to them

Vor 3 Monate
Timothy Hickey
Timothy Hickey

Many years ago when returning from Recruiter school in Arkansas, we were at about 30,000 when this happened to us. Normal flight and all of a sudden the masks popped from the overhead and we did a nose dive to get to 10,000. Pretty scary!!

Vor 3 Monate
Eddie Lopez
Eddie Lopez

I watched this happen in real time in the Flightradar24 app. They descended fast enough that I would’ve sharted myself.

Vor 3 Monate
Homefront
Homefront

My Brother-in-law used to fly for Skywest...

Vor 3 Monate
korky122
korky122

what do those numbers mean??? 148, 113, 92, 117. they just different zones for atc to refer too or something?

Vor 3 Monate
Chris Sede
Chris Sede

Those are minimum vectoring altitudes (MVA’s). It assures you have obstacle clearance above the highest feature (mountain, antenna, etc) for that area. That is why the controller stopped them at 11,000 until they made the turn to where the MVA was lower.

Vor 3 Monate
brch2
brch2

I think it's altitude info for the airspace.

Vor 3 Monate
Glenn Johnston
Glenn Johnston

That's what i like, no panic by the pilot, and ATC was very helpful

Vor 3 Monate
John Mullen
John Mullen

Calm. Collected. Thinking 6 steps ahead. Well done, ATC. Seriously. One hell of a reassuring tone and demeanor. I want a beer with that guy!

Vor 3 Monate
Jonathan Schwab
Jonathan Schwab

Happy new year., keep up the good work!

Vor 3 Monate
Brandon Magliola
Brandon Magliola

*ding ding ding* cabin pressure

Vor 3 Monate
mgoblue0970
mgoblue0970

"On that heading I can get you lower in about 5 miles".... um, it's an emergency. Get him lower now.

Vor 3 Monate
Hawker75
Hawker75

Ok, you go push the mountain out of the way then.

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

lol, yeah, lower right into the side of a mountain? Controllers are good but they can't move mountains.

Vor 3 Monate
Brandon
Brandon

Minimum IFR altitudes exist for obstacle clearance. Pilots can deviate from any reg during an emergency but they were low enough for the pax to be fine. Pilots and ATC were ace in this situation.

Vor 3 Monate
Margaret Mathis
Margaret Mathis

What does “on guard” mean?

Vor 3 Monate
Margaret Mathis
Margaret Mathis

@saxmanb777 Thank you!

Vor 3 Monate
saxmanb777
saxmanb777

The emergency frequency known as 121.5. It’s usually monitored on the second radio in case of lost communication or other emergency.

Vor 3 Monate
Amateur Shooter
Amateur Shooter

Thanks

Vor 3 Monate
StevenH
StevenH

How did an emergency aircraft not get to descend to 10000 when declaring it was going to do so? No 'judgement,' truly asking. Ditto: should the controller not have made the space for the descent to the flight level the emerg PIC declared? Seems odd to me to hear the you can descend in a few miles responses.

Vor 3 Monate
StevenH
StevenH

@saxmanb777 Got it, thanks! ATC couldn't move those mountains out of the way!

Vor 3 Monate
saxmanb777
saxmanb777

Not in mountainous terrain where you’re flying around northern Arizona in this case. On the video you can see the minimum vectoring altitudes used by ATC...14800 feet is one. 11300 is another. ATC gave him the 180° heading and you can see how it directs him to where there is much lower terrain.

Vor 3 Monate
Donald Thomason
Donald Thomason

Well done! Phoenix seems to always have professional and knowledgeable personnel on hand.

Vor 3 Monate
Michael Schwenk
Michael Schwenk

Those wondering about possible hypoxia, the attached link is an example of radio communications from a pilot experiencing it. https://youtu.be/_IqWal_EmBg.

Vor 3 Monate
eno88
eno88

The pilot was like.. "No pressure"

Vor 3 Monate
Just Another Guy
Just Another Guy

in 16 hours you replaced all the oxygen generators, tanks and fixed the leaks? Come on...

Vor 3 Monate
010101110101010001000110
010101110101010001000110

From 32,000ft to 11,000ft in 60 seconds.....WOW!

Vor 4 Monate
TheAlaska07 smith
TheAlaska07 smith

Very educational, thanks for posting and glad for the positive outcome.

Vor 4 Monate
Tony Cotto
Tony Cotto

anyone else got nausea on the way down?

Vor 4 Monate
Buck Buchanan
Buck Buchanan

Depress at 32,000 and didn't request any "special help" after arrival. Best to always have medics show up after that, even though low probability of DCS or barotrauma but nevertheless, it can happen. Kudos to the final controller, he really sounded smooth, and on point in his decision making. Great job!

Vor 4 Monate
Adapa
Adapa

Communication with ATC was poor imo.... I get flying the aircraft is priority obviously, but their dialogue with ATC, readbacks, etc was sketchy... Feel like something else was happening here...

Vor 4 Monate
Richard Herbst
Richard Herbst

I didn't hear the customary "souls on board, fuel remaining in lbs".

Vor 4 Monate
wjatube
wjatube

2:12 Begins crazy rapid descent!

Vor 4 Monate
Dominik Schmitz
Dominik Schmitz

The NTSB has nothing on this event. Wouldn't it be normal that the ntsb would looking to an incident like this?

Vor 4 Monate
Shain Andrews
Shain Andrews

@saxmanb777 There are exceptions. Like the SFO event were the pilot lined up to land on an occupied taxi.

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

That's because it's a big nothing burger. Only in internet world is is some kind of newsworthy event.

Vor 3 Monate
saxmanb777
saxmanb777

Nope. They would only investigate if this were an accident or maybe incident. In other words, if metal was bent or serious injury or death.

Vor 3 Monate
Chris Murray
Chris Murray

Skywest Mitsubishi CRJ 200?

Vor 4 Monate
Serg
Serg

I had the same thought... apparently, the -200 was bought out a while back.

Vor 4 Monate
Robin Richards
Robin Richards

Just a "by the way". A CRJ is not manufactured by Mitsubishi. Bombardier makes it, hence the "Canadair Regional Jet". Love your site, keep it up!

Vor 4 Monate
Robin Richards
Robin Richards

Thanks, learn something new everyday.

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

Sorry, they are now Mitsubishi CRJ's as Bombardier sold the company to Mitsubishi last year. Bombardier has sold all the lines of aircraft they once produced except for the biz jets.

Vor 3 Monate
Will George
Will George

I wonder if there was some slight hypoxia at the beginning.

Vor 4 Monate
Hawker75
Hawker75

No

Vor 3 Monate
A H
A H

Not likely.

Vor 4 Monate
すどにむ
すどにむ

Albuquerque ATC kinda sounds lax?

Vor 4 Monate
wrifraff
wrifraff

Funny to hear them pronounce Prescott wrong lol

Vor 4 Monate
Jay Whoisit
Jay Whoisit

Gotta be freaky for the passengers! Masks drop and plane suddenly dives!

Vor 4 Monate
eamonn w
eamonn w

Oxygen, Aviate, navigate, communicate.

Vor 4 Monate
A H
A H

CABIN ALT Caution message populates when the cabin altitude exceeds 8,500'. CABIN ALT Warning populates when the cabin altitude is at or greater than 10,000. Masks do not automatically deploy until the cabin pressure reaches 14,000'. It's very likely the crew were addressing the caution message appropriately and running the appropriate procedures prior to the cabin altitude reaching the threshold that required the emergency descent. I hope that clears up some of the confusion that seems to be common in the comments.

Vor 4 Monate
A H
A H

@Glen McGillivray When you are flying jets at high altitudes, you have to consider things like fuel burn, true airspeed and ground speed. This incident seems to have occurred close to the destination, but think about having a pressurization issue on a long flight. Making an unnecessary rash decision to descend is going to have a major effect on fuel consumption. If you need to make an emergency landing because you've burned too much fuel, you have to start looking for suitable airports within range. What if you are flying over an area that has inclement weather? The checklists, and procedures exist for a reason. If there is an emergency, you react to an emergency. If there is a problem, you don't panic and paint yourself into a corner. Follow the procedures and training. I think you are trying too hard to find something wrong. Take a step back. Nobody was in a panic. Nobody was injured. No equipment was damaged. They didn't even need to divert to another airport. Instead of trying to find something wrong, perhaps you need to watch this video again and learn that the pilots did everything right.

Vor Monat
Glen McGillivray
Glen McGillivray

@A H Huh I would have presumed that the initial detection of loss of pressure at altitude would be more precautionary rather than reactionary. If you ensure at least one pilot is masked while troubleshooting then in the event of further rapid depressurisation you have one competent and aware individual who can take decisive action quickly and safely while the other grapples with his own. Clearly Air manufaturers have confidence their airframes can sustain leaks fairly often and there is no serious problem. Perhaps then, I can try a better interpretation, where they might be distracted trying to solve the loss of pressure, when that failed, which happened despite following ATC advice to shed altitude, then clearly the problem seemed to be getting worse, which could explain the late declaration of emergency and immediate seeking of a landing area to get the problem resolved for the safety of everyone. Although It could also be explained by something as simple as a faulty sensor array. (whereby everything was fine, but it's difficult to have any confidence in trusting personal judgement over sensors) There isn't much point declaring an emergency if the plane could have flown comfortably to its destination at its reduced altitude despite the pressurization issues. Although it is also possible they had started to troubleshoot an entirely different set of problems, and after realizing additional problems had appeared, elected to take the safe option and presume in a multiple failure scenario to eliminate the risk of a failure cascade where other issues might appear faster than they could troubleshoot them. Need to wait on that report I suppose.

Vor Monat
A H
A H

@Glen McGillivray First, there is nothing at all to indicate that the lack of communication between ATC and the aircraft was related to the pressurization issue. That's an assumption a lot of people jumped to automatically when there is no evidence supporting that assumption. They wouldn't have donned their masks or needed to descend at all for the caution message. Had they done either of those things, they'd be making stuff up instead of following the procedures in the Quick Reference Handbook (QRH). Airline pilots don't wing it and make stuff up. They are trained to follow procedures. The QRH for a "CABIN ALT" caution message instructs pilots to run a series of checks and possible corrective actions. If they don't fix the problem they would follow steps to manually control the pressurization. There are about 23 steps in the entire procedure and charts to use to determine pressurization scheduling based on altitude and phase of flight.

Vor Monat
Glen McGillivray
Glen McGillivray

@A H Except I'm curious why if pressure was dropping: Why didn't they request clearance to descend earlier. Isn't that the first call when any pressure related issue is first discovered? The purpose being to ensure no complications for crew nor passengers? Instead we have 10+ minutes of no response at all. Which reminds me of other events I've watched and read about. The first step in the troubleshooting is to descend in a controlled manner while you continue to troubleshoot. They didn't, and the didn't react nor respond. This suggests they skipped the first step in the proceedure to manage a loss in pressure, even though apparently they took the time to put on their masks? It is enough to make you wonder if they tweaked their own reports on what actions they took to defend their activities. Still everyone got home safe so that is fine, just concerning. I'd need to find the incident report to double check my suspicions however. It is entirely possible you are right, they were mask on and busy checking things, but again: The first action to take is A mask on and B: Contact ATC and start a controlled descent to prevent any problems for crew or payload, just in case.

Vor Monat
A H
A H

@Glen McGillivray Nope. That's not what happened at all. Their masks would have been on long before they were exposed to a cabin altitude that would have led to any negative effects.It's fun to pretend to know anything about being a pilot, but pretending doesn't make anyone look intelligent.

Vor Monat
Jonathan Thompson
Jonathan Thompson

one minor correction Mitubishi never made the CRJ aircraft it is Canada Regional Jet otherwise I enjoy your videos thanks

Vor 4 Monate
Hawker75
Hawker75

Good grief

Vor 3 Monate
Steel String
Steel String

The CRJ line was rebranded as a Mitsubishi product, and the last few CRJs were made after Mitsubishi took over. The 200, of course, was discontinued long before Mitsubishi bought it.

Vor 4 Monate
jr132
jr132

I know cabin depressurization can happen to any aircraft, but the Crj-200 always seems to be having some type of problem that could potentially be very dangerous.

Vor 4 Monate
Atomic Tank Girl
Atomic Tank Girl

Last I heard, after a noncom of 5 minutes with commercial air traffic, the USAF scrambles fighters to inspect the aircraft. Did that change?

Vor 4 Monate
saxmanb777
saxmanb777

It’s not always 5 minutes. It really depends on the situation.

Vor 3 Monate
Samira Sorchia Ireland
Samira Sorchia Ireland

Brilliantly done! Thank you for sharing.

Vor 4 Monate
arunashamal
arunashamal

I love the show Mayday (Air Crash investigation) I find it interesting and I watch it all the time, but I was never scared of flying....until I started watching these ATC videos...that shit is scary.. there are far too many incidents that we don't get to know normally and it is just a matter of time till something goes horribly wrong!

Vor 4 Monate
H.C. Collier
H.C. Collier

Unsubscribing from all channels that start with 15 second commercials. 👎🏼

Vor 4 Monate
Shain Andrews
Shain Andrews

Good luck with that. Instead use your noodle... I wonder what can be done to block ads? If only there were some method to search for ad blockers...

Vor 3 Monate
dpm1982
dpm1982

Adding the location of KPRC to the video ~3:00 into the video was great. KPRC sits at 5,000 MSL so adding the location plus their altitude provides extra awareness to the situation (for the viewer). The ZAB controller was super cool and that can only help the SKW flight crew. Another wonderful video my friend.

Vor 4 Monate
Hunt Gaming/Productions
Hunt Gaming/Productions

4:25 i cant be the only one who thought of a paperclip

Vor 4 Monate
Paul Santos
Paul Santos

Holding pattern. Just in case anyone is wondering.

Vor 3 Monate
Nic G
Nic G

It’s a CRJ-200... that’s a flying trashcan

Vor 4 Monate
DomManInT1
DomManInT1

Ok. They were NOT in emergency decent until finally making contact ATC? A lot of fishiness about that whole scenario.

Vor 4 Monate
Erica Holtos
Erica Holtos

Skywest man. I can think of at least two major accidents involving them however they are never at fault. One was the runway crash and the second was a mid air collision I believe that was caused by a smaller airplane. Now they depressurized and once again at no fault of the pilots. Am I just in a weird place where I've just happened to see these close together or is the airline indeed cursed?

Vor 4 Monate
Erica Holtos
Erica Holtos

@saxmanb777 I know right I was shocked myself. How the hell I ended up there I will never know but it's not for the faint of heart

Vor 3 Monate
saxmanb777
saxmanb777

@Erica Holtos hahaha what? Someone on The internet was wrong?! 😂

Vor 3 Monate
Erica Holtos
Erica Holtos

@saxmanb777 btw I apologise if that came across as rude. I just came from a political comment section and I would not recommend that. I didn't take time to stop and realize you were not threatening my life so apologies :)

Vor 3 Monate
Erica Holtos
Erica Holtos

@saxmanb777 yeah I was being sarcastic there. They rarely have pilot issues but still find themselves in things that are not their fault

Vor 3 Monate
saxmanb777
saxmanb777

I mean, the company is a huge regional airline with over 400 aircraft and flies all over the country.

Vor 3 Monate
Nathan Greve
Nathan Greve

I’m sorry, it’s not a Mitsubishi. Never will be

Vor 4 Monate
Travis Williams
Travis Williams

I don't hear any alarms in the background. Would there be any?

Vor 4 Monate
saxmanb777
saxmanb777

There could be but pilots just push the master caution or master warning button and the alarm bells and aural warning is silenced. No need to have that going off constantly.

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

There is an aural warning message that says "Cabin Pressure" only when the cabin altitude is > 10,000 ft. If the pilots initiated the emer descent when the master caution and "cabin alt" caution msg posted, it's possible the cabin never exceeded 10k feet. Highly likely with a tight airframe. The pax O2 mask doesn't auto deploy until the cabin reaches 14,000 ft.

Vor 4 Monate
Captain John H
Captain John H

Folks, if the aircraft were unpressurized at 32,000 feet and the crew were not on oxygen, they likely would be unconscious. Certainly, after ten minutes they would be unable to don the masks since time of useful consciousness is a minute or less. The pilot on the radio made several lucid calls prior to donning the mask (notice at 1:58 how he sounded like he was talking inside a coffee can). Had he been hypoxic, he would have sounded like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqWal_EmBg. He donned his mask at about the same time as the descent was initiated. I would bet my paycheck the depressurization began when the engines rolled back. Less bleed air=less air to pressurize, and pressurization system did not compensate (dump valve?). It has happened many times before. Ultimately, I'll wait for the report.

Vor 4 Monate
Kyle St John
Kyle St John

I knew bombardier made crjs Mitsubishi does too?

Vor 4 Monate
Kyle St John
Kyle St John

@Space JAGA thanks for the info!

Vor 4 Monate
Space JAGA
Space JAGA

They were partners on CRJ program (cause Mitsubishi was developing their own regional jet and since it's their first they needed help) and later whole program was sold to Japanese (I think it is part of restructuring of the Bombardier since prior to that Airbus bought A220 part of the company (50.01% of shares) for 1 dollar...). Wiki has all the details...

Vor 4 Monate
Todd Sin
Todd Sin

Ok this whole thing is incredibly suspect and I look forward to the details released in follow up. I don’t know all of the facts but at this time I am comfortable saying this is going to be attributed to the crew, not the aircraft. That said, this controller is one of the best I’ve heard in a long time when dealing with an emergency, especially this one where things aren’t adding up and the comm from the cockpit is lacking at best. If nothing else comes of this, at least there is a glaring example of a competent and well trained controller that can be used as an example of the right way to do the job! If he isn’t properly compensated and respected at his current post I’d recommend he look for one that does.

Vor 4 Monate
Hawker75
Hawker75

There is nothing suspicious about this at all......

Vor 3 Monate
A H
A H

What makes you comfortable saying that?

Vor 4 Monate
thejamer5280
thejamer5280

Very confused with the sequence of events. Did the ATC just assume they had a pressurization problem and therefore direct them to 10,000 or was it an issue of the plane being too high for the approach and needing to get down anyway? In that case it was just coincidental?

Vor 4 Monate
JSD
JSD

Passengers can't breathe can we get lower? ATC: Not at this time

Vor 4 Monate
Doug Sundseth
Doug Sundseth

An emergency aircraft has the whole sky at its command. But _mountains_ still have the right of way.

Vor 4 Monate
Matt Norquist
Matt Norquist

Also, controller pronounces it PreSCOTT. My relatives there say it's pronounced PREScut. You'd think the ZAB CTR guy would be familiar? Just a comment. Didn't mean to be nit-picky.

Vor 4 Monate
Lisa Nadine Baker
Lisa Nadine Baker

An observation from someone who has lived in multiple geographic regions around the country - I have that pronunciation differences such as this are due more to where you grew up than to where you live in adulthood. Certain syntax, syllable accent, etc. are set in your speech patterns early. I have learned to listen for and enjoy the unique regional, and even within region, tells. It is part of what makes us, the USA.

Vor 4 Monate
Matt Norquist
Matt Norquist

What does "On Guard" specifically mean? There must be a specific usage?

Vor 4 Monate
Captain John H
Captain John H

@skyboy1956 If capable, shall.... Legalese for "you are screwed either way."

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

Yeah, its an FDC Notam, which is regulatory in nature. All planes "if capable" are supposed to be monitoring 121.5. Actually the word is 'shall' FDC 4/4386 SPECIAL NOTICE ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN UNITED STATES NATIONAL AIRSPACE, IF CAPABLE, SHALL MAINTAIN A LISTENING WATCH ON VHF GUARD 121.5 OR UHF 243.0.

Vor 3 Monate
Captain John H
Captain John H

@skyboy1956 Not quite true about all aircraft required to monitor 121.5. Many airliners have only two radios, and many companies require crews to monitor the company frequency. I worked for several companies with FAA approved OPSPECS that made it impossible to have guard on all the time.

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

when a frequency is "guarded" it means it's being monitored. 121.5, the standard VHF emergency frequency has always been guarded by ground stations. Since 9-11 it supposed to be guarded by all airborne aircraft. Today, people use the terms "121.5" and "guard" as synonyms, even though they are not.

Vor 3 Monate
Captain John H
Captain John H

@Space JAGA It is universal, and the broadcasts can be made 'in the blind'. Guard frequencies are not used much because crews normally have already established comms with some controller; no need to change frequencies to yell "Help" only to get switched back to the same guy or gal the crew was previously talking with. VHF signals are line of sight, but controllers are able to transmit on multiple frequencies and over several repeaters (especially a Center controller). So they can cover a lot of land (in the case of Center, several states). If the aircraft is near the edge of the range of a controller, that controller has a land line to adjacent sectors to help make contact. If it were possible to transmit an emergency message half way around the globe, what's the use? Someone 10,000 miles away really can assist in an emergency: he doesn't 'own' the airspace nor does he know what other traffic is around the emergency aircraft.

Vor 3 Monate
Pierson Lumaya
Pierson Lumaya

Is anyone watching this before a flight?

Vor 4 Monate
Don Schwartz
Don Schwartz

I would have thought that when a Captain declares an emergency they call the shots as they need. While the controller is doing fine and remaining calm he should have brought them to 10000 feet asap.

Vor 4 Monate
Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

He was cleared to 10,000 before the emergency was declared.

Vor 3 Monate
Jeffrey Bell
Jeffrey Bell

Atc discussed which direction to head to get lower fastest without encountering terrain. Prescott is above 5000 already

Vor 4 Monate
Don Schwartz
Don Schwartz

@tricksterAC Thanks. I would have thought the pilot would have know the terrain around him but you do bring up a good point.

Vor 4 Monate
tricksterAC
tricksterAC

I believe atc kept him safely above terrain until it was possible to go lower.

Vor 4 Monate
Ann Throckmorton
Ann Throckmorton

Looking for VASAviation's post regarding the hack into the pilot frequency Monday in New York regarding threats of planes flying into U.S. Capitol on Wednesday 1/6/2021 to avenge Iranian General Soleimani's death via U.S. drone. I figure you'll have something posted about that ASAP?

Vor 4 Monate
Ann Throckmorton
Ann Throckmorton

@Benjamin Brooks Thanks for the information. Obviously, I'm just an interested reader and not an aviator!

Vor 3 Monate
Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

"hacked" I keep seeing that word in the news, but there's no need for "hacking" into these frequencies. Anyone with an appropriate radio can transmit on an open frequency. They'll probably never find out who made that call...

Vor 3 Monate
Trench15398642_14
Trench15398642_14

So all passengers were okay? All wore their oxygen masks correctly? That would be a minor miracle.

Vor 4 Monate
Steel String
Steel String

They seem to have all been fine. No idea how many of them got their masks on. Some of them may have taken a brief nap.

Vor 4 Monate
Stephen Britton
Stephen Britton

Skywest 200's are a lot nicer than Endeavor's...

Vor 4 Monate
DorianTM
DorianTM

I've only been on edv when it comes to rjs but i have had no problems with their aircraft. But I have only flown on their 900.

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

nope they both have good and bad

Vor 3 Monate
Ross Bateman
Ross Bateman

Interesting. Thanks! I was just curious. I’ve only been on SkyWest’s

Vor 3 Monate
Stephen Britton
Stephen Britton

@Ross Bateman we regularly serviced Endeavor operated planes, but we had some Skywest operated planes during the COVID mess this spring. 1) Seats are MUCH nicer, whole interior is nicer. 2) In the cockpit they have two FMC consoles. Endeavor just has one on the CAPT side, FO side just has a flip card with speed and weight references.

Vor 3 Monate
Ross Bateman
Ross Bateman

Really?

Vor 4 Monate
TakeDeadAim
TakeDeadAim

Relief valve probably stuck open when they started their normal descent....

Vor 4 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

highly unlikey

Vor 3 Monate
Adam Jacobs
Adam Jacobs

The damn 200s pressurization system is a damn nightmare and the outflow valves are over complicated pieces of crap. When ever the pilots ask us how that system works on the 200 we just tell the JFM Just Fucking Magic. Fortunately they came up with a different and much better system on the 7/9s

Vor 3 Monate
Dean S
Dean S

A couple of years ago a friend of mine was on an Alaska Airlines flight from California back to BC when over Oregon the plane lost pressure due to a failed compressor he said it was eerie seeing masks drop suddenly and then the plane doing a steep descent. He had nothing but praise for the pilots and the stewardesses all of whom were very professional and kept their shit together. On the other hand he didn’t have a lot of nice things to say about his fellow passengers especially after doing an emergency landing at Portland. About half the passengers wanted to yell at the captain for putting their lives in “danger” and a few were threatening violence against the flight crew and Alaska airlines. Some people should never be allowed to fly.

Vor 4 Monate
Behindthen0thing
Behindthen0thing

@aboriani if the engine fails or bleed air fails you don't call it a compressor failure.

Vor 2 Tage
James Collier
James Collier

Lots of emotional selfish LOUD karens in that part of the county

Vor 5 Tage
Eduardo Camihort
Eduardo Camihort

@Philip Roseel and some a**holes that refuse to use masks at all

Vor 8 Tage
aboriani
aboriani

@Douglas Yeah, and where do you think is the bleed air coming from? The combustion chamber?? Generally, the bleed air comes from the N2 COMPRESSOR stage...

Vor Monat
SiliconValleySky
SiliconValleySky

Lifetime bans for those people.

Vor Monat
jjaus
jjaus

I see I disagree with a lot of people. ATC talks too much. Pilots are sweating and having to listen to a paragraph.

Vor 4 Monate
jjaus
jjaus

@LuckyAeronaut Your opinion of me causes me zero concern.

Vor 4 Monate
LuckyAeronaut
LuckyAeronaut

@jjaus And I'm allowed you to call you a nitpicker, which you are.

Vor 4 Monate
jjaus
jjaus

@LuckyAeronaut You may not understand this, but I am allowed to disagree with you. With unbelievable irony, you are making my point.

Vor 4 Monate
LuckyAeronaut
LuckyAeronaut

@jjaus I think you're nitpicking. Again, the majority of the controller's communications were about where it was safe to descend, and instructions on where to go to get the lowest altitude possible. Which again, for a depressurization is all extremely important information and allows the flight crew to plan what they're going to do to get the aircraft on the ground safely.

Vor 4 Monate
jjaus
jjaus

@LuckyAeronaut I understand all of that. I repeat, brevity. Perhaps its an American thing.

Vor 4 Monate
The Soaring Channel
The Soaring Channel

A Mitsubishi CRJ-200?!?! Wut.

Vor 4 Monate
The Soaring Channel
The Soaring Channel

@Clay Yosten no freakin WAY! lol I never even heard about that.

Vor 4 Monate
Clay Yosten
Clay Yosten

"In 2020, with the sale of the CRJ line to Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI), remaining aircraft were rebranded as Mitsubishis." - Wikipedia

Vor 4 Monate
Bob Blakley
Bob Blakley

Am I the only pessimist who thinks these guys fell asleep and once they realized they missed their approach they did the emergency routine? HAHA

Vor 4 Monate
Hawker75
Hawker75

Idiot

Vor 3 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

FOQA. That would be a career ending stunt.

Vor 3 Monate
Thomas Hannon
Thomas Hannon

apparently a couple days ago there was a crazy lady driving a car on the runway at KNOR. you should make a video about that

Vor 4 Monate
sturmovik
sturmovik

There's a video on this channel from a few years back about a police chase that entered Dallas Love Field (20-gate commercial airport). EDIT: Not on this channel, on Cmatt7 9 years ago

Vor 3 Monate
Thomas Hannon
Thomas Hannon

@Toni Blackmore I know. According to pictures and news articles, she smashed through the gate and just had fun on the runway until she crashed. It's a small GA airport, so there was only one gate and basically no security, since all of the planes were privately owned or used for training. She might have been running from the cops in the process, but I'm not sure

Vor 4 Monate
Toni Blackmore
Toni Blackmore

Haven’t heard about that one. Runways are a bit of a nutter magnet lately...wonder what the deal is.

Vor 4 Monate
Doc
Doc

Victor is on top of it as usual!! No one beats VAS Aviation when it comes to instant reporting of aircraft radar and comms traffic in real time.

Vor 4 Monate
gomphrena -beautiful flower-
gomphrena -beautiful flower-

I may have missed it, but what was the reason for the sudden depressurization?

Vor 4 Monate
skyboy1956
skyboy1956

nobody knows

Vor 4 Monate

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