Ryanair B738 has WHEEL WELL FIRE INDICATION after landing at Dublin

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    Ryanair B738 performing flight from London to Dublin had just landed on runway 28L when the pilots declared MAYDAY reporting a wheel well fire indication and would stop on the runway.
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littleferrhis
littleferrhis

I remember something one of my profs said. Evacuation is one of the toughest decisions you’ll make in the airlines. You shouldn’t do it unless it’s absolutely necessary since people will get hurt evacuating.

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FalconX88
FalconX88

That sounds like very inefficient communication. Pilots clearly want the fire fighters to go check the wheels.

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justweener domnika
justweener domnika

Maybe go for tui

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Monkyofwar
Monkyofwar

Does anyone know the date this happened or aircraft REg?- don’t worry found it

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TheRotorhound
TheRotorhound

Please look for a fire damn it.

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Justin Quinn
Justin Quinn

Pilot needs to chill out.

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Spanky G
Spanky G

I like how the message of a wheel well fire got changed into an undercarriage fire....two totally different things. Undercarriage fires can usually be seen from distance, a wheel well fire would involve sticking your head in there to find out.

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KJ's Tech
KJ's Tech

Typical landing for Ryanair Nothing special 😂

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Robin Bosker
Robin Bosker

21 feb. 2021

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Tevildo
Tevildo

A bit of a communication problem that could have had serious consequences. The fire indication was in the wheel well, but the trucks were looking for fire on the undercarriage (where it's more likely to be). It's understandable, but it should have been corrected.

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Tom Bowie
Tom Bowie

Is Ryan Air like a super discount no frills getting drunk on the way to a football match airline??? I’m in Canada but hear about them a lot in aviation vids. Sounds like rowdy bunch lol.

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Alexander Hill
Alexander Hill

It's official, I've spent too much time on vatsim. I heard RYR8B and thought "oh, that's the Stansted flight". hahah

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Dave from East TN
Dave from East TN

Sounds like flightdeck2sim.

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Chandelier C
Chandelier C

Oh that Dublin accent 😇😁

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J R
J R

Look in the f'ing wheel well idiots.

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Lois McCarthy Watson
Lois McCarthy Watson

Stop using copy only photocopiers copy.Use Roger or Wilco

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thesim1990
thesim1990

0:11 - Cleajfijjncerfjequfhgrivnvgngfufnhi

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Michal Lysek
Michal Lysek

Ladies and gentleman, this is your cptn speaking, you were just less thn one milimeter from sliding down that rubber thing.

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Sam04019491 Sam04019491
Sam04019491 Sam04019491

Surely the smoke detector in the wheel well was triggered by the slamming of the plane into the ground, causing smoke from the tyres to enter the wheel well? Case closed.

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ThePilotWhoCantFly
ThePilotWhoCantFly

And the smoke from the tires isn't caused by slamming down the aircraft

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ThePilotWhoCantFly
ThePilotWhoCantFly

It's not a smoke detector

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Fernweh
Fernweh

4:33 “that could just be smoke from the tyre”

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msnpassjan2004
msnpassjan2004

Seems to be a global problem getting fire crews to actually get out of the truck and inspect the landing gear.

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pm 110
pm 110

Very good call guys.....nice job!

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Master0234
Master0234

Not so suprised they don’t use reverse when they land only brakes ...

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ThePilotWhoCantFly
ThePilotWhoCantFly

?

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GivenFirstName FamilyFirstName
GivenFirstName FamilyFirstName

Balls

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Ian Litchfield
Ian Litchfield

I'm on the pilots side here, he's in a no win situation & nobody seems to want to take a closer look for him

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Ian Litchfield
Ian Litchfield

@evaluate analysis Yes it was a cockup by the ground services, time is the essence with fire. Look at the Manchester Airtours disaster.

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evaluate analysis
evaluate analysis

Yes. The fire crews were given permission to enter the runway, but didn't seem to have permission to get out and have a closer look, or if necessary ask the aircraft to shut down the engines. The tower didn't think of telling them what to do. While everyone was waiting for everyone else to make up their minds, the pilots knew that fast action is required if there is a risk of fire, so reluctantly decided to evacuate the aircraft. Just in time the rest finally made up their minds to ask for the engines to be shut down so they could have a closer look.

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President Trump
President Trump

Is it law to give those rescue vehicles the wort radios in every country? Why they always have the shittest most static filled coms?

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Robert Borchert
Robert Borchert

Yes. You're hearing audio from a different receiver than the others. The signal from the ground is hard to receive from a distant scanner or receiver.

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Mickey Mouse Park
Mickey Mouse Park

the audio you hear is from amateur radios sets near the airport...it would sound different to the pilots and ATC and fire crew..

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Dave Crupel
Dave Crupel

I suspect, for one reason or another, they had too much wheel braking power. Got the wheels too hot. But that's just an educated guess. For those who are curious, in a layman's terms explanation, the fire loop systems on commercial planes are what are called "thermocouple" systems. An electrical source is connected to one end of the loop. And the electric-powered alarm triggering mechanism at the other end of the loop. As the loop materials heat up, they become less and less resistive to the current. If they get hot enough, the current can pass all the way through them, and trigger the alarm mechanism, setting off the alarm.

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Sarah Albers
Sarah Albers

ATC: hold my Guinness. Looks like we got another case from Ryanair.

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saszka
saszka

4:33 “smoke from a tire", not tower

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Span Dex
Span Dex

Jesus get out of the truck and run over FFS.

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Matt McDonald
Matt McDonald

Absolutely frustrating. Fire rescue and tower sucked here. It’s not about seeing smoke. Get your ass there and look into the fire wall ASAP. Poor pilots are helpless.

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Matt McDonald
Matt McDonald

@Daniel Me? A smart ass? Never. LOL You should know damn well there could be a fire without visible smoke from across the runway. The pilots are asking if there’s a fire. In response, we get an emergency personal, who’s not on scene yet replying casually that there’s “no smoke”. That’s not what the pilot asked.

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Daniel
Daniel

Next time you try to be a smart ass, don't because it makes you seem like an idiot. What do you want them to do go under while the engines are still running?

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LjL
LjL

With running engines? I get they're brave, but that's not the same as suicidal...

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RedArrow73
RedArrow73

Serious Communications failure. It seems a Wheel Well Fire is different from an 'Undercarriage' fire situation.

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Ocean le
Ocean le

Congrat the pilot for common sense .

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Barry Scannell
Barry Scannell

Yea. Fire services weren’t going to get out under a rolling jet engine to have a look, guys. Pilot needed to shut down first. Tower and rescue did the right thing. It’s the pilot’s decision whether to shut down here.

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Markus
Markus

Wheel well fires are super dangerous, good for triple checking here and being ready to evacuate.

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Jason Stich
Jason Stich

How did they communicate this to the passengers? "This is your captain speaking. In case you're wondering why we are stopped here on the runway, we have an indication that the plane might be on fire. But please keep your seatbelt fastened while we get this figured out."

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alin92ify
alin92ify

I presume you wanted to wait next to an exit with your luggage in your hand.....just in case!!!!!!

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Dean
Dean

THIS IS HOW A SITUATION CAN GO FROM BAD TO WORSE. THE TOWER DID NOT LISTEN TO THE PILOT. OVER AND OVER THE PILOT SAYS WHEEL WELLS, WHEEL WELLS, AND ALL THE TOWER AND FIRE SERVICE SAY IS THE WHEELS ARE OK.

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Markus
Markus

Fire services got the wheel well information

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Yu OGAWA
Yu OGAWA

Ryan air...? ah,Hard Landing.I see.

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Barry Munro
Barry Munro

Is it true that a Ryan Air ticket only includes the cost of a takeoff, with an extra charge for the landing? PS I didn't know Ed Byrne also worked in ATC. No, really, it was him, I'd swear to it!

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Eric Farrar
Eric Farrar

Holy crap that atc did not communicate clearly.

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FoolioBeardy
FoolioBeardy

Jeeeeeeez

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Tom William
Tom William

I'm surprised the pilot just didn't shut the engines down completely so the fire crew could walk up to the plane and look in the wheel wells when they first arrived

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nilloc93
nilloc93

@Patrick Jones also if you shut down the engines on a plane its going to be a good while before they can start them again

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Patrick Jones
Patrick Jones

The engines generate electrical power to the aircraft. This means the radios and lights inside the cockpit and passenger cabin area would no longer function. A battery backup may have enough power to run some of these things but not all of them or for very long. They could turn on the APU (auxiliary power unit) but that would take a few minutes to get up and running. This is a good example of not acting too hastily and determining the best course of action. If there was an actual fire, I think, there would be a lot of smoke and other visual signs coming out of that wheel well.

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Jaguar
Jaguar

The worlds gone mad to my old eyes, both the Pilot and the ATC were desperately trying to cover their own own asses by not saying the wrong thing or committing to anything throughout this and that is down to training and the way it is nowadays.

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Lewis Taishoff
Lewis Taishoff

And Ryanair adding an emergency charge to every passenger's fare. And docking the pilots' pay accordingly.

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Spaced Raider
Spaced Raider

It's a horrible industry to work in nowadays. Bean counters calling the shots, multiple big brothers always watching and a team of lawyers always on call ready to pounce...

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Travis Edrington
Travis Edrington

So their indcators don't say which well the fire could be in? Bad design.

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Spaced Raider
Spaced Raider

There's only one main wheel well that both main gear retract into.

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Stewart Ross
Stewart Ross

That was a shambles!

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Chubby Greyhound
Chubby Greyhound

I have a friend called Ryan Eyre. I remind him how amusing that fact is to me on a regular basis.

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vbscript2
vbscript2

I can see how a Greyhound and Ryan Eyre would become friends. - haha

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Edson Herald
Edson Herald

“BEAVIS and BUTT-HEAD” Management Like By The Tower and Fire Rescue Crew ! ! ! ! HOLY MOSES ! ! !

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jimbob2bob
jimbob2bob

4 inflatable chutes were saved.

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peter78072
peter78072

Some Say they are still looking closely at the undercarriage..

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Ken Faherty
Ken Faherty

Shut the engines down. What on earth was he at?

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Tim Smith
Tim Smith

I'm confused about the exchange (paraphrased). Can you take a closer look? We don't see anything obvious. Can you take a closer look? We can't see anything from here. Is that a no?

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Dan
Dan

That pilot just wanted to evacuate no matter what lol

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ChloeLouiseeB
ChloeLouiseeB

A lot of commenters just don’t understand what the pilot had to think on here. He was told right off the bat no visible smoke/fire. He knows if he launches those slides that plane is grounded for a while and the chances of passengers getting injured using them is high. If he does that when he didn’t need to and people get hurt (which they will) it’s his arse that will be handed to him on a plate. I don’t doubt for one second that if anyone saw a hint of smoke or flames he wouldn’t have hesitated to shut down and evacuate that plane. He rightfully had evacuation in his mind ready as a ‘if we have to we will’ and by mentioning it to the tower they can warn surrounding vehicles to anticipate panicked passengers running all over the runway. A lot of people are saying he needed to make a decision but he had made a decision right from the start ‘we will evacuate IF it becomes necessary’

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Rafa Beton
Rafa Beton

I just want to tell you both good luck. We are all counting on you.

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Lewis Taishoff
Lewis Taishoff

@VisualApproach Don't call me Shirley!

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Stephen Cavilia
Stephen Cavilia

we have a fire indication beeping and blinking and flashing

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VisualApproach
VisualApproach

Surely you can't be serious?

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Sabrina Catlin
Sabrina Catlin

Pilots are dependent on cockpit indicators, and outsider verification. The emergency team are hesitant to approach a running aircraft on suspicion of fire. Wheel well fires are bad as they are very close to fuel tanks usually. I used to work launch and recovery in the USAF for F111 aircraft so I am well aware these issues. I used to have to go into the main wheel well to check system. Integrity visually. It's dangerous around running engines.

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jetals e
jetals e

Also, if there is a wheel fire, the water in foam is bad news. Water actually makes metal fires worse. DCP extinguishers are required.

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mybackpocket
mybackpocket

1:52 "There's no smoke at all visible from your undercarriage" - if you want to update the captions.

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Aaron’s Aviation
Aaron’s Aviation

Fantastic! Very fast turnout from the fire

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ckatlinga
ckatlinga

738?

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ckatlinga
ckatlinga

@SuperMuchonacho thanks making sure its not a ryanair special

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SuperMuchonacho
SuperMuchonacho

737-800

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Ahmad Samadzai
Ahmad Samadzai

Ryan air wheels on fire. The wsy they land usually they're lucky the tires still existed.

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Steve Andolino
Steve Andolino

Heard over Ryan air maintenance frequency Capt that 737 needs to be in Rome in 5 min. The fire brigade told you no fire so if you evacuate on the runway you and your co-pilot will be looking for a new job after you repack the slides.

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Spaced Raider
Spaced Raider

You're trying too hard...

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RationalPragmatist
RationalPragmatist

Pilot: We're going to evacuate as a precaution - do you see any indication of fire? Pilot 2 hours later: I think we'll need to evacuate - do you see any indication of a fire? Pilot 4 hours later: We're going to evacuate and I'm really serious this time; are you sure there's no indication of a fire?

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Mike Ritchie
Mike Ritchie

The pilot consistently referred to a fire indication in the wheel-well. The tower consistently referred to the undercarriage. There is a significant difference! This sort of miscommunication could be critical.

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UnshavenStatue
UnshavenStatue

I think both were accurate and they both knew exactly what the differences were -- I'd call it the best possible communication under the circumstances. Tower of course cannot see the wheel wells proper, but offered the best information he had available.

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Andrius Olišauskas
Andrius Olišauskas

And it look like that pilots missed first report of the smoke from tower when they asked if tower can see anything because the when the second time tower advised that there was some smoke on rollout it sounded for me that pilot was surprised as if the tower only now decided to tell them. Could be wrong interpretation though.

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Autobreza
Autobreza

Agreed. I don’t understand why the tower and fire crew need to translate the pilots words. Wheel well is clearly not wheel, tire, or undercarriage. Sheesh...

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wH0 kN0wZ? aB0uT mE!!
wH0 kN0wZ? aB0uT mE!!

Finally, it coulnd't take the landing

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Lee Curran
Lee Curran

Typical Irish.. if something needs doing step back and let someone else do it.

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zwyklyuser44
zwyklyuser44

So difficult to make a closer look

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thereissomecoolstuff
thereissomecoolstuff

Leprechaun pilots and leprechaun ATC. love it. If the firefighters get out of the trucks and look in the well we are done. Jesus.

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thereissomecoolstuff
thereissomecoolstuff

Well in typical English fashion you read my comment wrong. The pilots, the leprechaun pilots were doing everything right. The leprechaun firefighters wouldn't get out of there trucks to look in the wheel well to verify "no fire" that is what pissed me off. If you approach from the rear and walk centerline you could have looked at the wheel wells and eased the burden of the pilots. That took entirely to long. No about the racism. How can I be a racist if they are all the same? Leprechaun's the lot of them. Move to America. Your wokeness will get you la-d. By hairy tra-s. It's awesome.

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GivenFirstName FamilyFirstName
GivenFirstName FamilyFirstName

Both pilots sounded English racist chappie. Not wanting to precipitate an evacuation with inevitable injuries and closure of the runway seems perfectly reasonable.

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Tim Spencer
Tim Spencer

the captain should have made the co-pilot climb down using the cockpit emergency rope and check for fire/smoke.... conincidence? I was just watching this cockpit escape demonstration video last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T9OWQBh0jk

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BLACKMONGOOSE13
BLACKMONGOOSE13

FF: Oh, you want us to get OUT and take a look......🙄

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nilloc93
nilloc93

no one in their right mind walks up to the landing gear of a plane while its engine is running

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Mike Ely
Mike Ely

They were happy to do so once the engines were shut down. Can hardly blame them for not wanting to become part of the jet blast.

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Gavin Valentino
Gavin Valentino

Exactly.

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Leif Neland
Leif Neland

Automatic captions turns "turntotheleft" into "turtleneck" ;-) I would do the same without context.

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Oliver Nurse
Oliver Nurse

Is the date right? Simply flying quoted it as happing on the 21st

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Gabstra 678
Gabstra 678

Pilots seemed to be completely incapable of taking a decision. And that’s worrying, ngl

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molivil
molivil

Around 4:30 I think what they said actually was "Okay thank you very much, that's copied. That could just be the smoke from the tires that burst here, good to know anyway."

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Falcon
Falcon

0:10 Pilot should have read that back faster. I could almost understand it. Isn't the goal total unintelligibility?

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Mark Beard
Mark Beard

Some emergency handling is awe inspiring. This one doesn’t fill me with confidence!

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Hopelessand Forlorn
Hopelessand Forlorn

Huge miscommunication here. It was much too late when the crew finally said that the wheel well needed to be inspected for fire. The initial MAYDAY call correctly identified the indication, but tower and CFR did not know the difference between a landing gear/wheel fire and a wheel well fire. As far as whether there was an actual fire, the 737 NG and later engine and APU fire warning detectors are of a type which make an erroneous indication of a fire so unlikely that it can almost be discounted. If the engine or APU says fire, you have a fire. The wheel well fire detectors, however, are still of an earlier type that can, rarely, fail in such a way that a false fire indication results. The captain should have shut down the engines immediately and directed CFR to the main wheel wells. This could have been handled much better.

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Jonathan Kleinow
Jonathan Kleinow

Why do Ryanair flight numbers include letters (for example, 8B)? Or is that all European carriers? It's not something I see in the U.S.

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Jonathan Kleinow
Jonathan Kleinow

@Gabstra 678 Or "fifteen thirty-nine" or "fifteen twenty-nine," as the situation worsens

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Gabstra 678
Gabstra 678

@Gergely Cséplő also in America you read 4-number callsigns like this: “Cactus fifteen forty-nine” In the Europe that’s not allowed, you’d read it as “Cactus one five four niner” which of course is a little too long for a callsign. Adding letters allows for shorter and more practical callsigns

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Gergely Cséplő
Gergely Cséplő

More likely ICAO thing, makes it easier to make the callsigns different, so less likely to get similar ones at the same time.

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Gabstra 678
Gabstra 678

Quite common here in Europe. The flight number doesn’t have letters (it’s a number), but the designated callsign does. In this case: Flight number: FR205 Callsign: RYR8B

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Rilmar Amarthkhil
Rilmar Amarthkhil

Why do I love the Irish accent so much

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Sapere Aude
Sapere Aude

Glad they didn't evacuate, it would have been expensive for the passengers.

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Lee Shand
Lee Shand

Much indecision here from the pilots. A faint heart never won a fare lady. Make a decision!

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Markus
Markus

They did decide on the information they got. Not evacuating IS a decision. Though it seems they were one call from tower or fire services or cabin crew away from doing so. If anyone saw fire, debris, something that looks like fire or anything remotely weird... They would've run the evac checklists down. Which includes shutting down engines.

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TurboM
TurboM

If I wass the pilot I would put out the one engine so one still idle so there can be a close inspection. If there is no imidiate smoke or fire visible there is time to evacuate. If there is smoke visible imidiate evacuate. But that is just me.

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Michelle Schu-blacka
Michelle Schu-blacka

Is it 'mayday' or 'm'aider'?

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Mike Ritchie
Mike Ritchie

It's Mayday .... which is a corruption of m'aider. Good to hear the Mayday acknowledged which seems to happen rarely in the USA.

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A majeed mohieddeen
A majeed mohieddeen

That happened because ryanair always does hard and bumpy landings

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Thomas Leitner
Thomas Leitner

Yeah, so they either evacuate for nothing and get blamed for minor injuries (sprained ankles,..) and major inconvenience. Or they taxi to the gate, starting to burn, and getting blamed for underestimating the hidden issue. And even when everything is fine, then getting blamed on youtube for the decision making process, where everyone seems to be better at shutting down engines. :-D

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Thomas Leitner
Thomas Leitner

@Andrius Olišauskas Well, some people in here seem to be faster and much more coordinated with doing so. :-D

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Andrius Olišauskas
Andrius Olišauskas

What's so wrong with shutting down engines and double checking wheel well to be sure that all is safe? :)

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Thomas Leitner
Thomas Leitner

@Capture King Yep, I actually thought the same, until someone in here mentioned possible medial reputation damage for airlines. People talk bad with wrong reasons, people listen, people fly. I mean just think about Ryanair. One of the safest airlines, but seemingly a running joke when it comes to safety.

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Capture King
Capture King

When did the Youtube comment section become the official aviation authority that anyone should care about?

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Gerald Shultz
Gerald Shultz

Amazing graphics. I looked up the airport on the map and the graphics were exactly as on the map. Well done, also thanks to VASAviation. Thanks great work.

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Krozar TAL
Krozar TAL

On a side note, the airport was designed on MS Paint.

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igneousy
igneousy

What to do here, this is a tough call. Here I think there are two equally reasonable choices, first just evacuate,; second, prepare to evacuate and get a gear-well inspection. My problem with this incident is that they did not seem to do either. Nobody would fault the crew here if they immediately started an evacuation. It would also be reasonable to configure the aircraft for an evacuation (engines off, spoilers down, flaps extended), establish communication with the cabin and wait a reasonable amount of time for an inspection. Instead, it sounds like they sat there with the engines running. Nobody is getting anywhere near the wheel-well if you have the engines running. Also contributing to the confusion was that the fire trucks/tower had a slight but significant misunderstanding of the nature of the emergency. Everybody kept talking about the landing gear but what the pilot needed to know was if there was a fire in the landing-gear WELL...similar words, but a different area of the airplane. Also, an area where you could imagine a fire that could exist and not be readily apparent from the outside.

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Andrius Olišauskas
Andrius Olišauskas

Good point. It's not about pushing for evacuation, but getting ready for it just in case to save precious time. It looked like they were willing fire brigade will be able to see inside wheel well without approaching so there is no need to shut down engines...In the end it was the only option if they wanted to be sure.

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GreatFlyer
GreatFlyer

*For those wondering why they didn’t shut down the engines immediately or evacuate without losing time:* - The evacuation checklist begins with “Condition: Evacuation is needed”. This means you must analyse the situation and decide as crew if it is needed or not. Sometimes a fire indication can be erroneous and lead to serious injury for no reason. - You would not shut down the engines without the APU running, otherwise you’d lose electric power and end up with a dark cabin. APU takes about 2 minutes to start up and stabilise. - Shutting down the engines on the runway means you are blocking the active. However, after an inspection confirming no presence of fire, you can possibly taxi off the runway. “Sit on your hands” is a wise saying in aviation - think before you act.

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Jacob Wong
Jacob Wong

You must be Aviation Vsauce.

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Cabot Steward
Cabot Steward

@Aaron’s Aviation Slides are cheap compared to an injury. The injuries that come with their use is expensive.

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Monkyofwar
Monkyofwar

@Aaron’s Aviation if uses in anger yea lol

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Aaron’s Aviation
Aaron’s Aviation

@Monkyofwar it is expensive if they are used in anger.

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Monkyofwar
Monkyofwar

@Aaron’s Aviation I thought that about it but apparently it’s not that expensive to repack/re certify don’t know the exact amount but I know. Ryanair Captain and he said it’s not as much as U think

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Dave Grimshaw
Dave Grimshaw

Are you going to be posting the UFO encounter AA had the other day? Thanks!

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C2K
C2K

We can neither confirm or deny that we had an armed reaper drone deploying to a a taskiing at the time. We can't confirm it coz it'll make us look bad. We can't deny it coz we totally did and you might catch us out somehow. - US Gov.

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iFred
iFred

What an idiotic pilot. Decide and dont discuss.

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Jonny
Jonny

737 pilot here. Incorrect. Discuss, use all available sources to verify the situation. Share mental models. Your colleague or ATC might know something that you don't.

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Aviation Manchester
Aviation Manchester

I think this should be on further training to ensure pilots that this is not what to do in an emergency situation. The pilots should have shut the engines down so the fire crew can check the aircraft. The pilots also said they were going to evacuate on the runway and didn't. Good job all turned out well in the end.

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Andrius Olišauskas
Andrius Olišauskas

Couldn't agree more. Even though it looks like there is no Boeing procedure for ground procedures during wheel well fire, but shutting down the engines, configuring aircraft for evacuation (in case evacuation will be needed) and close inspection by rescue ops would be a good first step.

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Rudrick Boucher
Rudrick Boucher

Kudos to the fire trucks for approaching the aircraft from behind. Otherwise the passengers would be losing their minds!

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

You don’t ever approach a wheel fire from the side, because when they explode it fires out to the side

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A Ro
A Ro

Teamwork is great, except when it isn't and nobody seems to know what they are doing. Evacuate! No ... um ... can you see smoke? Evacuate! Or not. Hmmm. Evacuate! Fire trucks did you bring a thermal camera. Er, no. Why would we do that for a possible fire? I know, lets Evacuate!

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John
John

lol at the pilot getting frustrated things are taking too long, yet does nothing to help...either evacuate or don't, felt like he was using it as a bargaining chip.

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John
John

@Marcello Scarano couch actually. Never tried to be a pilot, just like criticizing them on the internet based on the copious amounts of ATC I listen to. Oh yeah, and my left nut, don't forget to suck on it.

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Marcello Scarano
Marcello Scarano

Another armchair wannabe failed pilot

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Sirius Enigma
Sirius Enigma

Also, the pilot is blind, he has to follow the manual. The manual says: wait for ground crew’s inspection. The fact that the ground crew failed to confirm put the pilot in a bind. “If you can’t find the fire, I will order the evacuation.” Pretty much explain the problem.

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Jonathan Kleinow
Jonathan Kleinow

The pilot doesn't want to evacuate the aircraft unless it's absolutely necessary. Passengers are likely to be injured (sprained ankles and such) from going down the slides. He was ready to pull the trigger on an evacuation the moment he heard anything confirming smoke or fire, but they didn't seem to see anything. I do think he should have shut down the engines sooner, though.

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Plane Flight Tv
Plane Flight Tv

shut off engines get the hell out of there , Safety First rescue was there , talk about it later

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Fragile Crystal
Fragile Crystal

Have you ever been in an airplane evaluation? It’s only ever used as a last resort.

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jeehaa1
jeehaa1

1:51: " There's no smoke at all visible from your undercarriage [...] 4:32: "That could just be the smoke from the tire(s), but it's good to know anyway

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Commerce USA
Commerce USA

Better safe than sorry. Job well done by all.

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Legalize Shemp
Legalize Shemp

I guess that delay in evacuating was caused by the extra charge they had to collect for using the emergency slides.

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Kent Skor
Kent Skor

That fire bell sounds like my 40-year-old wind-up alarm clock. RIIINNNGGGGGGGGGGGG

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if.dublin
if.dublin

Great video, my friends were there that day and I believe my friends photo is in the thumbnail 😁

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if.dublin
if.dublin

@VASAviation - hey thanks for the heart 👍😁 the photo is on Instagram by @euro_spotter

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VASAviation -
VASAviation -

Who is it that I can mention him

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Jim Ratliff
Jim Ratliff

Pilot seemed anxious, naturally with the warnings in the cockpit not going away but, the fire services and tower did inspect the A/C and no fire etc. present and kept assuring him. That is their job. The pilot was really wanting to get those slides open for business!

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Ruben Villanueva
Ruben Villanueva

Do not put so much trust with what the Tower can see. It was wheel well fire alarm, the best to accurately report on it would be the rescue personnel, if they got up close to the wheel well. And we do not know if they got up in there.

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Kent Skor
Kent Skor

As a passenger, this seemed pretty disturbing. Three minutes after the fire indication and mayday, the pilot and rescue were still figuring out what to do. Lots of confusion, lack of coordination and indecisiveness. If there had been a fire, those three wasted minutes could have been catastrophic. Or am I missing something . . . .

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jimbob2bob
jimbob2bob

An evacuation would mean deploying the chutes putting the aircraft out of service and costs to the company. But if the crew assumed it was a faulty indication which then leads to a fire then they could be criticised for not taking action. Ultimately it's the captain's decision, but having fire crew able to make a visual inspection should rule out any faulty fire indication.

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R L T
R L T

Not as critical as you seem to think. Evac often results in more injuries than anything. No smoke showing. That would have made the difference in how it was handled.

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