Patrick Mahomes SCARY Concussion! Doctor Reacts to Hit & Controversial Missed Call

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    Brian Sutterer MDBrian Sutterer MD

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    Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs suffered a scary head injury and concussion, displaying posturing, the fencing response, and wobbling on the field. Also, earlier in the game there was a controversial missed call on a helmet to helmet hit during the Chiefs NFL playoff victory over the Cleveland Browns. In this video we'll explain why this hit still caused a concussion, what exactly the fencing response is, and then my reaction to the missed call.

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Brian Sutterer MD
Brian Sutterer MD

Yea, I've seen the reports it was a "tweaked nerve" in his neck and not a concussion. But... There is no nerve in the side of the neck that would cause a fencing response when its hit. Could he have hit a nerve AND had a concussion? Sure, but the only thing that causes that fencing response is a brain injury/concussion.

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Iresin1
Iresin1

https://youtu.be/ENNYT8MZwa4

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Mitchell Brown
Mitchell Brown

Dr. Sutter you are absolutely right nevermind the people that do not understand physiology and or neurology. I suffered many when I played the game and I agree with you that the the Chiefs should have been penalized. It was obviously a helmet to helmet hit and I believe there was actually two that went unpenalized! The Browns are not complaining, I live in Missouri and let me assure you that Chiefs fans would still be crying if they had been called because we would have won the game. Go Browns!

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Op-Ed Daily
Op-Ed Daily

Wrong - it wasn't a nerve injury OR a concussion -- he was choked out. That's it. I called it the moment I saw it happen.

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RYAN TRAVIS
RYAN TRAVIS

@Mason Eads he was being sarcastic u big turd

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RYAN TRAVIS
RYAN TRAVIS

@Jeff S lmao that's funny

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purple purple
purple purple

definitely, penalize these defenders

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Joseph Presseisen
Joseph Presseisen

So a dr. In Dallas went on air saying it was a bruised brain stem could that not be the case?

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TKatGAMING
TKatGAMING

Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. 2 star M.V.P are forced to be taken out of 3rd quarter, they both suffered the same injury

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Trent Friend
Trent Friend

Surprised it wasn't a Covid diagnosis

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Taco Roni
Taco Roni

Looks like he was choked too. Could it played apart being disoriented ? Like Loosing balance for being light headed for not getting oxygen to the brain ???? Dirty play overall

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Samuel Lanthier
Samuel Lanthier

To me, it is a choke out, not a knock out. The amount of dammage occured way different.

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Amanda Bush
Amanda Bush

Corny tho

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Amanda Bush
Amanda Bush

You may be a doctor but u must not no that theres away to joke somone and cut air off and twerk u

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Micheal McConnell
Micheal McConnell

It Wasn't Much Of A Hit To The Head. But... His Head Was Yanked From His Body(Lifting His Body Off The Ground)... And Then Neck Traumatically Twisted!!!

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Tad Kowal
Tad Kowal

A choke out is different from a concussion. The reactions are similar. The results are vastly different. My son wrestled about 2 hrs after a choke out in HS. He was out 15 days with a concussion in college. (He quit wrestling, made Dean's List for the remaining semesters and is an electrical engineer now.) Yeah, that concussion scared the crap out of him.

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bocoy noiu
bocoy noiu

U upload to fast and I’m not complaining, I love how u explain it

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Mark Chambers
Mark Chambers

Thats not even a fencing response. Thats a natural body position while being tackled. It was vagal nerve response.

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bocoy noiu
bocoy noiu

don't.

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TruFinancial
TruFinancial

Who thinks this concussion will affect him in the superbowl v TB?

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TruFinancial
TruFinancial

@PyRo 0117 what do you mean?

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PyRo 0117
PyRo 0117

He just murdered the bills

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Brett Wagner
Brett Wagner

You call yourself a ‘doctor’ yet you feel qualified to diagnose someone from a 15 second video clip?! The sheer hubris. You don’t think the Chiefs and the NFL don’t have doctors who are FAR superior to you? They hire the best. That’s why they’re there diagnosing the athletes in real time and you’re at home, trying to profit from a 15 second tv clip. Mahomes showed no symptoms of concussion last night. The Chiefs said he was ok. The nfl said he was ok. But you think you know more than them?!? Hopefully you learned a lesson because this vid makes you look like an over confident clown.

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Op-Ed Daily
Op-Ed Daily

"I don't care what anybody says," Dr. Sutterer says, disgracing himself and all other MDs out there. When I saw the play, I KNEW that wasn't a concussion because his head never actually hit the turf. You can see it in numerous angles. What you DO see is a man being choked out when someone's arm is wrapped around his neck and the other artery being cut off via neck crank. Sorry that you spent all that time in school to make assumptions about a person you haven't evaluated, and clearly never taught you to be open-minded about remote evaluation with no access to a 'patient's' medical history, any scans or other methods to help you diagnose someone with 'x' injury. It wasn't a "nerve" injury either - it was him being choked out. That's it. It wasn't a concussion, it wasn't a nerve injury - both his arteries were cut off and he went out but came-to quickly, but resulting in the small window of disorientation. It wasn't a concussion, Doc. Maybe you should save yourself embarrassment and stop being believing you know more than you do because you have a medical degree; it is clearly clouding your ability to understand that you can be wrong.

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Mohamed Sharif
Mohamed Sharif

Lol

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ZBlacktt
ZBlacktt

Another Superbowl looking OUTSTANDING tonight Doc.... well called in this video, lol...

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soinhu foitu
soinhu foitu

I’m so glad he didn’t go back in. I’d imagine 15 years ago he would have kept on playing.

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michael peters
michael peters

you ever heard of someone acting? that's what that concussion scene was.

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michael peters
michael peters

@soinhu foitu easy to make it look intentional in slow motion, this happened in 1 second, remember that, and if you look at when they hit the ground, he was trying to let go but his arm was sort of wedged between mahomes helmet and chest. really weak hit anyways and this doc is making assumptions, NFL already said he didn't get a concussion, so, I guess I was correct. right?

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soinhu foitu
soinhu foitu

grabbed around his neck and didn’t let go. That’s not an accident.

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Luke Blersch
Luke Blersch

maholmes is injury has to not turn into a fractuted ankle but hes already looking to run but when he does he is going to get sacked and or tackled blitz and really make his life miserable in the way to do this is to beat Kc at the line of scrimmage but pressure maholmes until he throws a interception pick 6

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Jonn J
Jonn J

Congrats mate, you have just been used as the medical expert in german football televison

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Joseph Flinton
Joseph Flinton

Has nobody heard of a brachial stun before? Look at the arm position on his neck and clear applied pressure for more than just a quick touch. That’ll give immediate response similar to a head injury but it’s just a lack of blood to the brain. Anyone with combat training see what I’m seeing?

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Cooney. B
Cooney. B

If the NFL keeps changing rules within 5 years it's going to be professional flag football. Unless you were there to check on him & perform the concussion protocol tests it's hard to give a definitive diagnosis for it. If he didn't pass all the stages of the protocol there is no way the team, team doctor & an independent outside doctor would all pass him/allow him to play. The team wouldn't risk a half billion dollar contract & 10+ years of winning/playing over clearing him for 1 game.

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RamsesReturns
RamsesReturns

I think it was pulling his whole body by his neck that gave him the injury... head contact seems minimal to me.

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Jack Mehoff
Jack Mehoff

Blah blah blah blah he has a concussion.

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PyRo 0117
PyRo 0117

But he doesn’t

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Heather in Kansas
Heather in Kansas

Ew. Ew. Ew. Ew. Ew. Ok. Ew. I had to stop this at the 5:04 mark. I upvoted, but had to stop this at 5:04. Love the intelligent content, but can't handle the "shop talk" about the brain fluid, etc..bc... The brain seems too delicate to think about. Thankful for the info and praying for Mahomes long-term health.🌻🎋♥️

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Kyle JC
Kyle JC

So ...as a physician with years and years of training and years and years of bed side manner; shouldn't you wait for irrefutable evidence prior to claiming "without a doubt" or "is clearly concussed." Now on to the part that really bothered me most "I don't know know what else we need to see?" Umm going out on a limb, and mind you I have approximately the amount of hours I've watched your videos in medical training, but even I know that a MRI or CT would be a sufficient answer "what else do we need." I'd even be appeased with waiting for doctors on site administering cognitive and neurological tests. Clearly they saw or noticed something that didn't necessarily indicate a concussion but also that non statement of officially ruled out leaves the Browns thinking, "Oh shit, we have a chance" Clearly that was a reach on their end but anywhere I digress. Full disclaimer I'm born and raised KC, so this was just my rant but maybe next time since there are some medically uneducated people like myself that think the acronym ICE and a couple tylenol fixes everything, and may or may not have come straight to your page to see your assessment, would appreciate a little more objective and not subjective....But only for Mahomes. Your Dak Prescott injury seemed petty spot on. hahaha keep up the videos I have learned alot.

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Agua Type
Agua Type

To ALL CLOWNS.. Dan Sorensen posted a pic for all you idiots who wanna talk, CLEARLY you see his shoulder hit FIRST, so stfu.. it was a LEGAL hit

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A Garcia A Garcia
A Garcia A Garcia

I hope he gets popped again. Sorry, but I do. Running, scrambling qb's don't last long in the NFL. They have to become pure pocket passers and some go on to succeed, others don't.

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Joe Angeloni
Joe Angeloni

His head never hits the ground. The other helmet broke the fall of the head to the turf. This abrupt stop is what did it.

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Cline Broussard
Cline Broussard

nfl only cares about money so he's most likely playing tomorrow

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jimmy dean
jimmy dean

And it's impossible to get all head injuries out of the game if there's tackling. You can take a knee to the head or hit your head on the ground like Mahommes. Like doc said, if the NFL is worried about head injuries they'll put these Velcro strips on the side of their body and pull them off for a stop. No more blocking, no more tackling, only running, and catching, and pulling flags

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Manuel Pasco
Manuel Pasco

Boxing is almost the same as that, but they don’t call it concussion, it is knockdown or knockout if he stand up groogy.

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DGI15 Upo
DGI15 Upo

Helmets should break under a specific amount of force. I think that might help

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Dan Brobst
Dan Brobst

Good job. Sorensen should be suspended. Not to mention browns probably win without that illegal hit. I noticed it right away. Dirty play. Deserves justice. These guys have to stop putting winning over somebody’s brain that they have to live with for 50 years after retirement. Mahomes is the new goat. The defender says it was an accident but he grabbed around his neck and didn’t let go. That’s not an accident.

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Dalton Gillihan
Dalton Gillihan

How sorenson talked him is the same way Ryan shadier came into his tackle that hurt him very dangerous technique

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A Little Of Everything
A Little Of Everything

Love these analysis videos. Could have put other clips of fencing response examples.

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Hector Viscencio Brambila
Hector Viscencio Brambila

It was not a helmet to helmet hit. Check the videos available. He was neck held which is extremely dangerous.

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Miss T
Miss T

I think he meant to do that to my baby Patrick so couldn’t win the Super Bowl men they hating on us in Kansas City wow 😮 praying for him he get well..❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ we Love you Pat.. KC all day

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Corey Kaiser
Corey Kaiser

It's physically impossible to lean forward and not have the helmet be what you are leading with. There is no way to tackle a runner that is also in a diving/extremely bent over position

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Corey Kaiser
Corey Kaiser

It's not an illegal hit because runners are counted at defenseless players. It's also not fair to penalize a defensive player for leading with the helmet when the offensive player is also leading with the helmet

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scott FREE
scott FREE

I'm dumber for watching this. Thanks a bunch.

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Gears
Gears

Doc, did you miss the pull on the head, looked like he was getting hung.

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Zachary Morrison
Zachary Morrison

What’s your opinion about them clearing him to play sunday

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Bamfhammer
Bamfhammer

I think you need to find the 3rd angle of the goalline hit. As the receiver extends, the defender drops his whole torso low enough to make contact and actually first makes contact shoulder on shoulder, before then making contact with the head. While this is still dangerous, I don't know how you can possibly try to hit someone that low with your shoulder without lowering your head.

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Joanna
Joanna

If he plays next week he going to end up like Antonio brown

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LongDayEarlyNights
LongDayEarlyNights

Even more talented and rich? Tell us more.

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Bruce Lehrer
Bruce Lehrer

When someone has their head hit the ground and get up all wobbly-like, that's not nothing, right?

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William Smith
William Smith

An MD selling skincare...brother, please learn some TCM perspective on skin...it is merely a reflection of the internal environment, and can easily be managed with TCM principles. Love your videos, and would love to see you broaden your perspective.

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Rene R.
Rene R.

football players are modern-day gladiators, gladiators died, stop watering down the game it is a choice.

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Brooke Grey
Brooke Grey

I love your videos and they are so educational and help ma in school a lot but I do have one Genuine question can the coaches really say if Patrick was diagnosed with a concussion due to HIPPA laws

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Joanna
Joanna

first like, then to watch video :D?

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Juan Campos
Juan Campos

The chiefs always getting help like the seahawks

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Matthew Colwell
Matthew Colwell

I passed out standing up and did the weird arm thing, so idk

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Joe Troutt
Joe Troutt

That thumbnail ain't right. It looks like Patrick is laying down stroking that dude's helmet.

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Antoinette Lopes
Antoinette Lopes

When I was watching it, it looked like his neck got twisted by that guy's arm. Like when you mean to "snap someone's neck" but not that this was that severe or intentional. What I'm talking about happened after his helmet bounced.

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kskisser
kskisser

I always thought concussions were a skull fracture? In this case, it just seems like his jello got wobbled.

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Pete Melabianakis
Pete Melabianakis

This nfl needs to deny him approval to play they should not clear him.

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SuburbanErrorist
SuburbanErrorist

do you think it's a blood choke

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Ratus
Ratus

Ye that rashard higgins helmet to helmet was a blown call.

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Muzz Pzz
Muzz Pzz

it mention 7 to 10 days or three months for concussion? why he cleared for one week early? from Coach did decide on him as play against Bills? that up to you, you're know about medicines and symptoms.

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solidbroly
solidbroly

He got choked unconscious. Looked like a guillotine or bulldog choke. He was out for a second thats why he stood up like that. Concussion, maybe. But seems unlikely.

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Francisco Cepeda
Francisco Cepeda

The set up last year was for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl this year the plan seems to be for them to at least repeat. And with this concussion the NFL is risking a man's life by pushing for him to play a week after this type of injury which needs weeks for recovery. 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵

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NadaButH8
NadaButH8

Right. The NFL rigged the Browns game by having Mahomes removed. Y'all are DAF.

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Zachary Davis
Zachary Davis

I feel like there is room to argue that that wasn't a fencing position situation when he got hurt. He stopped instantly and I feel like there are certainly ways he could've lost his balance or even been scared that he was gonna get hurt and ended up making his body rigid. I don't care enough about the situation to say that the team did or didn't lie, but I at least don't think its fair for people to say with confidence that the team or the league is pretending he's fine when he's not. I don't see why the team would lie because it has already been 5 of the 7 day minimum it takes to recover and they could be confident. I'm not a doctor or anything but from my limited understanding, it seems realistic enough that he could be ready at this point.

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NadaButH8
NadaButH8

@Brian Sutterer MD You're harmful to public awareness. Nice projection. The mere fact that you CONTINUE to sit here and say the only way for him to appear the way he did is by concussion is absurd. Absolutely asinine. One could appear so by SPINNING IN CIRCLES! GFY.

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Brian Sutterer MD
Brian Sutterer MD

The team isn't lying, they just aren't saying anything and are letting the public narrative run, which I think is harmful for public awareness about head injuries

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Rob Meyers
Rob Meyers

Listen to this man NFL! Please.

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Friksjon36
Friksjon36

What is Sam Bradford(?) doing back there?

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ReeceNichols The Van Noy Real Estate Group
ReeceNichols The Van Noy Real Estate Group

Anyone that wobbles has a concussion. Good lesson.

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SplitShot Scott
SplitShot Scott

I Concur !!

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MindSET
MindSET

19th century sports are immoral to begin with. Micro analyzing them doesn't change that.

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Steven
Steven

“It was a choke out” guys, in full speed the guys arm was there for a second, AT MOST. There’s some serious mental gymnastics going on for people to tie an obvious concussion to these unlikely causes of the injury.

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Steven
Steven

@NadaButH8 ...

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NadaButH8
NadaButH8

And? You must really be slow :(

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guy sumpthin
guy sumpthin

Gazorpazorp

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Gregarious Solitudinist
Gregarious Solitudinist

He was hit on the nerve in the side of his neck that causes instant incapacitation. But that does not fit the football is bad, narrative. his head was barely touched. he was moving forward when he was hit. The fencing movement is the logical conclusion of that energy.

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Steven
Steven

Not even remotely true. Your head doesn’t need to be hit to have a concussion. Your brain is suspended in your skull - acceleration combined with a quick deceleration is enough to cause trauma to the brain when it shifts.

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David Lingner
David Lingner

I thought it was clear that the Chiefs player put his head down and speared the ball. It should have been a penalty upon review. Regarding Mahomes I couldn't tell until I saw the other angle how he got a concussion but when he fell I thought something didn't look right.

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J D
J D

My theory is choked out. The arm gets trapped against his Carotid artery. As his head is forced forward it wedges the forearm tighter. He’s doesn’t truly get choked out till he then gets rolled over backwards completely cutting off blood to his brain. Hence choked out.

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DayLight Era
DayLight Era

I still don't understand how the helmet to helmet wasn't called on the Chiefs

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Eoghan Brogan
Eoghan Brogan

Would F1 drivers get concussions because of sudden acceleration and deceleration?

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guy sumpthin
guy sumpthin

Cte is from repeated "sub-concussive " blows (less than a concussion) definitely all race accidents count as concussive or sub-concussive

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Matthew Godwin
Matthew Godwin

I now hate Cleavand and refs cause called nothing

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Donovan Shy
Donovan Shy

Also would this technically be described as coup-countercoup motion

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Donovan Shy
Donovan Shy

I would argue that anytime the nfl had made a rule about hits guys are getting more injured if you look at the numbers more QBs are being hurt mostly lower body because defenders cant go high in the pocket anymore i agree they should do something about the helmet to helmet hits but i think an independent source should do the research and honestly construct the rule and give it back as a model for the nfl to either use or format their own rule around

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Zachary Paris
Zachary Paris

Can't talk, busy fencing.

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Ajay Bajwa
Ajay Bajwa

Hey doc. Please make a video on the NFL's decision to clear him to play on Sunday.

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Darth Star One
Darth Star One

He playing😯🤔😯

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BoBo Belinsky
BoBo Belinsky

wrong. His head was driven into the ground with the weight and force of the 260 lb linebacker who made the tackle. This is more than likely the cause of his obvious concussion. He will be more vulnerable in the next game to any hits whatsoever. If he was a boxer he would not be allowed to fight for at least 4 months based on their standard protocol. Now why doesn't the narrator make a video on the Covid hoax and explain to his listeners that its a flu that kills old and infirm people at the same rate that all seasonal flu's kill them each year. Its lethality rate all around is .03 per cent. It is nowhere near the epidemic category, this is a lie. It would be time much better spent by him and it would be a sincere act of bravery.

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Donald Spaniol
Donald Spaniol

They dont care about player health.. They care about dollars... They pick certain teams to win and support them... Others get tossed in the gutter.. Player safety isnt even secondary to them Great video!

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Tony Strickland
Tony Strickland

Or do you think it may have been a chokehold

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Sean Lutke
Sean Lutke

Do you not think it's possible that he just got choked out a little and because he did go through some whiplash as well that he just got really light-headed and out of breath while trying to stand?

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No
No

The goal line hit was perfectly acceptable. Stop being soft.

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jose arrollado
jose arrollado

Bullcrap. The missed call was when the Browns player made the TD and the defender led with his helmet causing a fumble resulting in a touch back for KC . Chiefs would of lost that game if they got that call correct but no yellow flag.

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NadaButH8
NadaButH8

You had Mahomes put on concussion protocol for a non concussion... But that 1 play your talking about lost you the game? Gee. Ok.

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jose arrollado
jose arrollado

@guy sumpthin yah they do. Sports center had even said if Mahomes was not cleared too play thsi weekend they should postpone the game. I WAS LIKE WHAT??? You hit it on the nose bro. They favor the Chiefs.

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guy sumpthin
guy sumpthin

Nfl favors the chiefs . They lookin for chief v pack superbowl (like they tried last year too) cuz its a rematch like the first sb game . Last years niners were so good they beat the pack and the refs

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cvk g
cvk g

the helmet to helmet play is impossible to avoid when trying to stop the diving player. if serious they shld rule dives like they do slides. down at beginning. wldnt be entertaining but safer.

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Iconhulk
Iconhulk

Do one about swelling on the knee.. Le'Von Bell has swelling on the knee didn't participate in practice today..

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Omar
Omar

Dude he got choked out. That is not a concussion

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Paul Gerczak
Paul Gerczak

You can't prevent helmet-to-helmet hits they got to leave it the way it is you can't change it anymore unless you want to do two hand touch

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The greatest ever
The greatest ever

ARE YOU GOING TO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG NOW? HE WAS JUST CLEARED TO PLAY

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Ricky Davis
Ricky Davis

Guys if you haven't played at an elite level, stop the jibber jabber! It's a full contact sport , if you want to play you have to pay. It's a man's sport. Not for pansies, the squeamish or those accustomed to receiving participation trophies! You keep watering it down you might as well call it the WNBA or the WNFL! Yea, I said It! It's what most Men feel! Men!

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Colton W
Colton W

Wasn’t a concussion

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BUMBA
BUMBA

Yeah he got cleared by an independent doctor meaning he was evaluated outside of the NFL’s doctors

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Xsychology
Xsychology

Cleary was. The NFL doesn't care about the players, they only care about money.

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RealHxntai -
RealHxntai -

Not a concussion he actually tweaked a nerve in his neck 🤷‍♂️

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Rusty Nails
Rusty Nails

@AyeItsCollin well since his never even hit anything and he doesn't have a concussion, your theory doesn't hold much water.

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AyeItsCollin
AyeItsCollin

He has a concussion they just covering up for him since he’s their star player and they want rating happend to me before

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joshua czajka
joshua czajka

I thought maybe he had the blood cut off to his brain hence the dizziness when he tried standing up? It's just an idea

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jay howell
jay howell

If this guy thinks there was enough helmet to helmet contact here then he needs his eyes checked too

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jay howell
jay howell

This is hate speech

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ScottCleve33
ScottCleve33

The NFL talks out both sides of it's mouth. They say they want to make sure the game is played safe and that if they can correct an incorrect call they have to do it. Then at the same time they limit those opportunities to do so because they don't want to slow the game down. So which is it NFL? Do you want the game to be played safely and get the calls correct or don't you?

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Donna Lewis
Donna Lewis

Who cares what's being "reported" gmab

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Chris Coy
Chris Coy

What is the percentage of being prone to another concussion or head injury if he comes back to soon? What is the difference from being knocked out and having a concussion. His recovery wasn't immediate, but I think about boxing and a fighter gets knocked out and gets back up. Why do people let that go and not report on concussion protocol for a week after the fight?

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Cody Mcgowan
Cody Mcgowan

I want your computer monitor lol

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