Part 2: DIY AMD NAS with Unraid & ZFS Software Setup, ft. Level1Techs

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    This is part 2 of our journey embarking on a custom DIY NAS, this one focusing on software setup for Unraid & ZFS (ft. Level1Techs).
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    You can find part 1 (hardware setup) here: de-film.com/v-video-Hix0l8cFaMw.html
    For this video, our NAS box is already built (hardware linked below) and we just need to deploy the software. Wendell walks us through setup for Steamcache, basic file structures, drive groupings as vdevs, and initial configuration for the NAS. We're using ZFS and Unraid together so that we can run VMs with transcoding scripts for old footage, something that Wendell was able to figure out for this video.
    Wendell's tutorial is here: forum.level1techs.com/t/zfs-on-unraid-lets-do-it-bonus-shadowcopy-setup-guide-project/148764
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    Wendell & Level1Techs can be found here (they're uploading a video from GN HQ also!): de-film.com/ch-UC4w1YQAJMWOz4qtxinq55LQ
    In this video, we'll be installing software for our NAS. Find the hardware below:
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    Host: Steve Burke
    Guest: Wendell from Level1Techs
    Video: Andrew Coleman

Gamers Nexus
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You can find part 1 (hardware setup) here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hix0l8cFaMw (hardware is linked in the description) Subscribe to Wendell & Level1Techs! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4w1YQAJMWOz4qtxinq55LQ Wendell's tutorial is here: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/zfs-on-unraid-lets-do-it-bonus-shadowcopy-setup-guide-project/148764

Vor 28 Tage
jerome Forest-Lamoureux
jerome Forest-Lamoureux

You should go check some Spaceinvador one videos. You'll get how to run your UnRaid server.

Vor 20 Tage
Jan Girke
Jan Girke

Maybe you and Wendel can remind the guys who are programing Unraid to include @24:35 the scheduler plugin / functionality. I think they will get around doing it, just don't know their schedule.

Vor 23 Tage
thelongslowgoodbye
thelongslowgoodbye

@Andrew Smith He's from Kentucky.

Vor 26 Tage
Jerrod Frost
Jerrod Frost

There is a plugin that will give you the ability to schedule stuff. Have you tried installing the community applications plugin so you can have a simplified app store? You should be able to search available plugins and dockers there.

Vor 27 Tage
Home Home
Home Home

btrfs and or zfs using VDO?

Vor 3 Tage
Chris Chambers
Chris Chambers

I found this interesting, but for me - there was  lot missed out,  like the showing us more about the VM's cashing  and a clear work through of setting up the ZFS

Vor 6 Tage
WWNSX
WWNSX

No seriously Wendell we need nerdy Infomercials especially the BtrFS one.

Vor 7 Tage
Boris Dessimond
Boris Dessimond

Watched the video when it came out. Managed to grab 72TB for 600$. Enough to store my "personnal 4K BR collection", to game on it, and to act as a free server to collect data from LORA sensors. Now I'm turning my 1950X based gaming/video editing computer to a server... Wanted to get information on LSI cards configuration, came back to watch the video again :p.

Vor 9 Tage
BIZKIT
BIZKIT

It's funny to see a gamer bro be completely lost in what Wendell is talking about.

Vor 10 Tage
Daniel Bernhard
Daniel Bernhard

Nice. Youre the first ohne i mention, Who doesnt go all on the Top Hardware. Instead searched a Konfiguration which maches your needs, with some headroom.

Vor 12 Tage
Ace Strife
Ace Strife

I wish I had a friend like Wendell. Unfortunately I'm that friend.. without the enterprise knowledge whatsoever. FeelsBadMan. Trying to learn about all this NAS, SAS and other misc stuff in order to upgrade my 9 drive system (new MB's only have 8 SATA ports) without spending ludicrous amounts of money for no benefit (consolidating 2 drives into 1 of a higher capacity). It's really difficult due to just how much stuff is out there; completely overwhelmed.

Vor 13 Tage
Aaron Argent
Aaron Argent

Don't forget to add in recycle bin plugin for a place to store deleted files before cleaning them out

Vor 16 Tage
Scorpius165
Scorpius165

Steve, love your content! Do you think you could do a review for gaming monitors sometime (such as the Gigabyte Aorus I guess you're using in this video)?

Vor 17 Tage
Act1veSp1n
Act1veSp1n

"pretty straightforward" = requires years of linux knowledge to have a bare minimum working Unraid setup.

Vor 19 Tage
Florian Trück
Florian Trück

Wendell's tutorial is full of errors. On many commands the label name is on wrong order. The steps regarding autosnapshot should be more detailed: How do you get the script, what does need to be patched, a link to an already patched version of the script would be very nice.

Vor 20 Tage
Minor League Gaming
Minor League Gaming

Tfw I remember calling them zamba shares.

Vor 20 Tage
MustangsbyMatt
MustangsbyMatt

I consider myself a fairly tech savvy person but server stuff just makes my brain hurt. VDev? Pools? Huh??

Vor 21 Tag
SikSlayer
SikSlayer

Wendell says UnRAID runs off the USB stick... almost (key word, ALMOST) implying that it's better to do that than install it on its own drive, like a cheap small SSD. But why?

Vor 21 Tag
SikSlayer
SikSlayer

@Joe Spurlock Thank you for the explanation, its just hard to fathom... logs and stuff even. But what proves you're correct is the fact there's dedicated internal USB ports for this specific purpose.

Vor 21 Tag
Joe Spurlock
Joe Spurlock

Small linux OS's like UnRaid (or FreeNAS, VMware ESXi etc) can just load to RAM (basically creating a RAMdrive after booting from the USB). UnRaid actually doesn't write much to the USB, so it works out fine - and fairly trivial to make a backup of it if USB ever fails. Short answer - would be a waste to take up a SATA slot for SSD to do such a minor thing. Many server boards have internal USB port for just this purpose.

Vor 21 Tag
Pandu Poluan
Pandu Poluan

I'm always happy to see ZFS in the mainstream. It's a severely underrated filesystem, but once one 'gets' it, anything else would never make one satisfied. EDIT: Also, for scheduling stuff, if it's a Linux I'd just bite the bullet and use *Apache Airflow* http://airflow.apache.org/ . Sure, it's MUCH more complex than writing cronjobs, but the flexibility and its built-in monitoring feature is the bee's knees for me.

Vor 22 Tage
papageorgi
papageorgi

I think you guys may want to try freenas since I believe 11.3 (stable af beta at the moment) has updated smb shares and you don't need to setup cron jobs manually

Vor 23 Tage
CKOD
CKOD

Ive been casually trying to plan a NAS build for the past month or two, but it always spirals out of control quickly. "Z2 because of read failures being so likely during a rebuild of a Z1, and a single VDEV is so slow, limited to 1 drives speed, so why not 2 VDEVs, but usage efficiency is shit if you just have 4 disks per VDEV, , and the 8 and 10 TB WD reds are quieter, and lower power, and faster than the 4 and 6 TB units, and I really want 10 Gb networking because 1Gb is poopy" etc, until I'm looking at a $1500+ box before the 8-12 $250 drives... And I just keep going "screw it, just throw 2 mirrored drives in an old PC and deal with it when its full"

Vor 23 Tage
Joe Spurlock
Joe Spurlock

Sounds like you should look at SnapRaid !

Vor 21 Tag
BitKrieger
BitKrieger

I know Wendell would say "It's fine..." but using /dev/sd* I am disappointed... ^^

Vor 24 Tage
PerfectBee
PerfectBee

I have been researching FreeNAS and UnRaid and have yet to decide my path. However, I am confused by one statement made by Wendell. Specifically, around 6:48 he states "FreeNAS doesn't do hardware passthrough". Over in the FreeNAS forums I have been asking about the possibility of running FreeNAS in a VM and, although there is lots of debate about that, there seem to be folks there who are specifically using FreeNAS in a VM with passthrough. Who is correct? PS: Not interested the the FreeNAS vs. Unraid debate here - just want to know if the statement about FreeNAS not supporting passthrough is accurate.

Vor 24 Tage
Joe Spurlock
Joe Spurlock

I think he should have said "it does it poorly" -- Linux KVM virtualization is outpacing FreeNAS (which is BSD). User base on BSD is way smaller, and the GIANT server farm crowd is pushing the KVM tech forward fast.

Vor 21 Tag
Carl Vanderlip
Carl Vanderlip

Why go FreeNAS/unRAID when SnapRAID-MergerFS+Linux of Choice is right there?

Vor 24 Tage
Joe Spurlock
Joe Spurlock

Wendell kind of didn't say it very distinctly, but I think he finds the KVM VM Hypervisor (esp. the hardware passthru) features are nice on UnRaid, something they've really improved, while technically being possible on UnRaid. What I'm confused about is why he didn't just point a VM to external disks and run ZFS on the VM?. Also UnRaid has a nice docker hypervisor (I think he's missing some recent upgrades that does allow better network config in the containers). Overall, UnRaid is really fleshed out feature wise by using the plugin that makes an AppStore out of containers and other plugins that the community has built (there's some true talent in the community, very dedicated) - such as the CRON job scheduling, Recycle Bin (for the array shares), and for that matter some of the scripts he was mentioning. You can tell he's not particularly familiar with UnRaid - part of why the developers have not incorporated some of this in is 1) the community plugins are great and 2) as Wendell said (criticism for FreeNAS), a NAS should default to KISS / Idiotproof out of the box. The UnRaid audience has largely been HTPC crowd. However, with things like LInuxServer.IO creating fabulous dockerized apps, UnRaid is becoming quite flexible.

Vor 21 Tag
saultube44
saultube44

unRAID=unEASY just use Linux or Windows server editions, what a PIA

Vor 24 Tage
King Gremlin
King Gremlin

Unraid is very easy if you are looking for an archiving/file server. This video is demonstrating a bizarre configuration and Wendell is terrible at explaining what he is doing while the video admittedly skips steps making this process even more cryptic to follow. As someone who set up his own Unraid server at home with relative ease, this is absolutely not an Unraid tutorial. There are many better sources online for learning the basics of Unraid and how to implement commonly used features.

Vor 22 Tage
Mytime Media
Mytime Media

GN and L1T, I have been posting on LT1 forums about using ZFS and want to give a big thanks to Wendell for all of his help (getting me and my system working correctly) Have you tried checking your throughput on the array? Are you using only the ZFS array, or are you also using the Unraid array (for backup) Wendell suggested my current config for ZFS. 3 3drive raidz1 array I would love to see tests from your array setup. Thank you guys again for the video, because I really like Unraid, but the slow speeds were my biggest issue.

Vor 24 Tage
saultube44
saultube44

"just the 14 TB Hard Disks" certified r/DataHoarder member

Vor 24 Tage
saultube44
saultube44

ghost32 why people say is great? you had to had a compatible NIC, and many other things to be compatible with, even HDD drivers, in short a nightmare if you have some non-popular generally expensive hardwarein ghost32 database, there was Many other products that worked better, even an .iso maker would be better, stop saying that piece of trash software was great, it was fucking not!

Vor 24 Tage
1strog
1strog

What about disk encryption?

Vor 24 Tage
Lukáš Mojžíš
Lukáš Mojžíš

To answer your question about Candy Crush - You need to do something "Local Security Policy" - that should point you to the right direction.

Vor 25 Tage
Edmond Lai
Edmond Lai

Why on earth would you downgrade from Synology DSM to unRAID??? Why would you complicate matters by using ZFS??? If you find the Synology hardware too limiting, just run XPEnology on your own hardware. Heck, you can even run XPEnology in a VM...

Vor 25 Tage
Yaron Ilan
Yaron Ilan

Question: What is your data backup solution for all of this new storage?

Vor 25 Tage
Beelzybud
Beelzybud

While watching this I felt like I wanted to see block diagrams of the layout Wendell was describing.

Vor 25 Tage
Beelzybud
Beelzybud

@Joe Spurlock Thanks!

Vor 21 Tag
Joe Spurlock
Joe Spurlock

watch SpaceInvader's channel on UnRaid tutorials - does just that !

Vor 21 Tag
Pedro Nascimento
Pedro Nascimento

Just a reminder that there is a docker container for handbrake which might make it more efficient, no need to allocate RAM specifically for it.

Vor 25 Tage
Johnny BeGood
Johnny BeGood

Wendell, I can’t wait for your next video about comparing Server solutions like Unraid and FreeNAS.

Vor 25 Tage
Robbin Milatz
Robbin Milatz

This is just great. The only reason I stuck with FreeNAS was ZFS, unraid here I come.

Vor 26 Tage
lord-carlos
lord-carlos

Can't they use Handbreak CLI on linux? Or why use it through a Windows VM?

Vor 26 Tage
PredatoryQQmber
PredatoryQQmber

Again, no love for pure Linux, like CentOS with XFS… 10:20 BTRFS is trash but what is his point exactly ? What is "odd" ? Having an option for snapshotting ? 22:58 Oh-noeh, even Speedw^WFacebook is troubled with possibility of anti-FOSS litigations ! 34:30 Trusting out-of-tree kernel modules with incompatible licenses that rewrite entire subsystems of kernel and don't get updated to its release cycle is not a wise decision.

Vor 26 Tage
i, Scotticus
i, Scotticus

Wait. What about cryptid traffic??? Just let them do their thing!

Vor 26 Tage
i, Scotticus
i, Scotticus

There's something very satisfying/comforting about all this.

Vor 26 Tage
Alan
Alan

Steve you should've named the pool Darkmatter or Warp Core or something.... instead of just "tank". It's the USS Excelsior after all.

Vor 26 Tage
Robag - IPX
Robag - IPX

lolz windows eating paste love your work Wendell :D

Vor 26 Tage
Paul
Paul

Soooo when Wendel leaves the building, Steve is going to rip out the unraid ubs stick and install windows server and setup simple raid 5 array and call it the day.

Vor 26 Tage

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