OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT : SIMS 4 KITS - NEWS 2021

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    Simmer ErinSimmer Erin

    Dauer: 08:26

    Sims 4 Kits have been officially released today, with an announced price. I'll be going over reactions and give you my honest opinion. A livestream has also been announced.
    Previously...
    Sims 4 just announced its anniversary surprise-- but now the new February 2021 update patch notes revealed that there are not only new packs/ dlc on the way but even an entirely new pack type announced. This new dlc type, called Kits, may either be like mini stuff packs or function like the Sims 3 store. I'll share my honest opinion about how this could stir controversy, as well as the new screen shots for the upcoming dlc.
    In addition: The Sims 21st anniversary has finally been announced-- with a free update that includes 21 news pieces of furniture, recipes/ food, and CAS items from prominent CC creators in the Sims 4 community. Was this update showcasing the best of Sims 4-- or will it cause controversy because it did not fulfill wish list items such as cars, updated babies (so that they are no longer objects). To be fair, we did get high waisted jeans.
    I also cover Paralives, comparisons (Sims 2 vs Sims 3 vs Sims 4) and occasionally Sims 4 cc or dlc ranked.

Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

LIVESTREAM ANNOUNCED FOR 2:00PM EST ON SIMS TWITCH

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

@Sam Love :)

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Sam Love
Sam Love

Thanks for the reminder Erin...you are the best.

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Indira
Indira

I Missed it. Uh nooo.

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Empress Song Mi Young
Empress Song Mi Young

after the live stream im starting to like the kits

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Hi
Hi

Imma head there rn thanks for informing me

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MOLPE SIMS
MOLPE SIMS

You know what would be cool? To make some in game money for players (like tokens). Like other games play - either you can pay 5 dollars or you can spend ridiculously many hours playing, collecting achievements and the sims tokens and then buy one kit pack. Most of the people would still buy them and those who see the business move over the few bones EA threw to players, they wouldn't bitch about it and played the game more (maybe eventually bought them anyway).

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MOLPE SIMS
MOLPE SIMS

@Simmer Erin There is a possibility it would be done poorly, sure, but I was thinking - we have achievements in game, maybe you could level yourself up while unlocking achievements (and there could be more hours, there is 100, then could be 250, 500, etc.) and as usual with this system, the more levels you get, the more EXP you need and it's harder and harder to get them. Also the achievements could get you different amount of EXP depending on how much time you need to get them (basically like it is right now, you get a few points for woohooing in rocketship and more for playing for 26 generations). I could go on for hours, I could create a system like this :D Too bad EA doesn't care about my ideas :D

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I'm a little worried about that being like a micro-transaction-- how would those be earned? They do have something like that bit it is in mobile

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Cutiecase 55
Cutiecase 55

I still feel the same way about kits 😒

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Oh yeah ha I think this was the video I was opretty reactionary. Sadly they are here to stay, so I just hope they are rather infrequent and done better

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12369ja
12369ja

to answer your question, while I do want to get them just to collect all sims games, but I dropped my phone today, so now my money has to go towards paying to have my phones screen replaced.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Oh no! I'm sorry about your phone :(

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luvtheclassics75
luvtheclassics75

I know there has been inflation, but I still think S4 packs should be cheaper compared to S2 because the improvement in technology probably has made the development easier. So either they need to be higher quality or cheaper, just an item volume comparison isn’t equivalent. Plus, with the volume of content EA is able to churn out, they could make a similar amount of money by pricing everything slightly lower and letting more people afford to buy more content.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yep. The kits especially strike me as too expensive -- they even insinuated they don't take very long to make.

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Zarah Bailey
Zarah Bailey

WOW 😳

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

yeah

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Yuri Rodrigues
Yuri Rodrigues

Here, in Brazil, that beautiful trash is 29 reais/BRL (Aka 5,16 dollars/UST). And a stuff pack is 39,90 (aka 6,99). We have 5 vaccum cleaner for that price. EA, please, die.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah the pricing discrepancies are concerning too

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Johnny
Johnny

I’m fine with paying for new content, as it costs money to put new things in the game. I think the sweet spot is when a pack has just enough content to wow me, so I think the $5 price of these kits would be worth it if they had 50% more content than they do now.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

yep. I just think it seems high for what you get

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VampQueen
VampQueen

I cannot do this price. It's too much for not a lot, even though I'm a console player with no cc or mods and no choice but to give ea my money these aren't worth it, the only one I would buy on sale would be the vacuum one because the sims 4 gameplay as a whole is empty and lacking. The comparison between the sims 4 and the sims 3/2 isn't fully accurate due to the fact sims 3 is a full game on it's own without having to buy packs in sims 4 you almost HAVE to buy packs just to have a playable game. Instead of the only stuff pack we got with full CAS and build buy, why didn't he compare to my first pet or luxury stuff. The packs have always been over priced but at least it didn't feel like you HAD to buy them just to be able to play the game. The problem isn't the price fully the problem is the game as a whole.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I agree. It's like splitting stuff packs in 3 but getting 5 dollars more for it

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Fran Rosado
Fran Rosado

vacuming just seams like something thats gonna get annoying fast... if i was to get one it would probably be the kitchen one cuz i love to build. The clothes feel meh, so i dont see myself buying the vacuum or “retro” fit clothes unless they go on sale for half the price. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yep. idk they just don't seem very unique & I think they are too expensive for what you get

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Mendelynn Mantaya
Mendelynn Mantaya

I feel like these are parts left over from the planning process which didn't make it into the packs... and they don't match, so they couldn't make it a stuff pack. So... yay, a new way for ea to make money! Why focus on existing problems in the base game if you can distract the players with new stuff? I'm not a fan.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

It feels that way a bit. I think even if they were a bit more unique or innovative it would feel less so

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E H
E H

Just give me the damn horses alreadyyyy ffs 😤😤😤😤

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

lol idk....I wonder if they'd ever do a horses kit

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TheEdiya
TheEdiya

I admire how neutral you are being in comments. I personally say go find a Cc creator or modder who does something you love and support them instead of buying kits if you are a PC player. Kits seem pointless to PC players, and as someone who doesn't dl mods, I don't really understand the argument for console players. My top price on the item kits was about $2. I might have done the dusting kit except all reviews say how unbalanced it is. As always....if they would fix the game first, they would have a buyer in me. Even this. But supporting anyone who constantly lowers the bar of expectation while also breaking what was done previously is just..not something I understand.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Thank you. I try my very hardest. I think, so long as the comment isn't abrasive, someone took their time to watch and comment, and I want people to feel comfortable expressing their opinions. As much as I agree about your take on kits, I always say I can learn from other perspectives & all opinions are valid :) Yeah I'd wait a bit and see. I heard there are some issues with it-- so I'd see how it runs

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Don Carlin
Don Carlin

The kit prices follow the pattern of EP/GP/SP pricing. The Sims 3 store is definitely microtransaction galore. You can buy individual items at a time as well as sets and entire worlds.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Oh yeah I definitely agree Sims 3 Store was outrageous, I guess at least irt was a different website you had to go to-- but it was also more expensive

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Mine Draped
Mine Draped

I don't even have words for how wrong this is. If you buy them, more will come! PLEASE DON'T BUY THEM!!!!! The three of these combined come to the cost of a game pack. Game packs come tend to come with around 100 build/buy mode items, 50 CAS items, new gameplay features, aspirations, skills and sometimes even worlds. And I know I'm probably leaving things out. Compare that to these kits: A whopping combined total of 23 CAS items, 15 build/buy items and 5 vacuums. All for the low, low cost of Vampires or Parenthood. This is horrifying and the Sims community should be outraged. For their part, EA should be ashamed of themselves and get back to work on bug fixes, listening to what the community actually wants and making sure this game is a finished product by the time the Sims 5 arrives.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Sadly yeah-- I see it as splitting a SP into 3 and getting $5 more out of it

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Daria Desloovere
Daria Desloovere

I think they are a bit overpriced. They contain only 1/3 of the content of a stuff pack but the price is half the price of a stuff pack. I just don't think it's worth it.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

agreed. I think I already said this, but it's a sadly smart way to get more money for the same amount of content

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00Mful00
00Mful00

yeah not going to vaste 5 dollars on a digital vacuum cleaner....

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Not my thing tbh

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Chris
Chris

I love the bust the dust becuase of the cleaning we need more realism. I would like a broom and mop, cleaning supplies and toilet paper that runs out ect.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Honestly for $5 I sorta think they could have added maybe a few more cleaning things-- though I do think that pack probably supplies the best value

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Alpacas are the bee’s knees
Alpacas are the bee’s knees

I won’t be buying any of these. My cousin who plays the game is excited about them, but I was like “nah, I don’t do micro transactions.” To each their own I guess

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yep same

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Mae Mae
Mae Mae

I swear these could all work as one pack! But they are lazy.

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Mae Mae
Mae Mae

@Simmer Erin I agree with you. And it wasn’t fair what I said- I was frustrated at the time. :-)

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I don't think it is laziness-- if anything they are creating more content now BUT I do agree with you that splitting this up is a bad move

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Olga Shishkina
Olga Shishkina

I hate the idea of the kits but this kitchen... If I buy it I will get rid of so many cc and have something to build with to upload to the gallery. Building and sharing my builds is my greatest joy right now

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah, I think for me that'd be the only one I'd see myself using. I just can't justify the price for myself

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Mae Mae
Mae Mae

I wish it was a free update to some of the actual packs.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Maybe some good free updates are yet to come

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Master Mind ъыь
Master Mind ъыь

Id Software with their DOOM Eternal just showed that you don't need any microtransactions in your game to earn a lot of money... All you need is passion, creativity and integrity with your fanbase. Just saying, EA...

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Master Mind ъыь
Master Mind ъыь

@Simmer Erin yes. This is another reason why I support Paralives.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

:( I think at this point, EA needs competition

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SweetLala25
SweetLala25

Yea this is just not for me. What I can't stand is when people just give EA a pass and say "well in the past they would make packs so expensive so it should be no surprise." I don't get why we can't hold EA to more standards; why we can't ask/hope for things that wouldn't cost much just because the packs from previous iteration along with TS3 store costed a lot of money. It shouldn't still be costing so much.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I will agree that, just because something was done in the past does not mean it's something that's necessarily a good thing

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Temari
Temari

People make this content for free... and ea is making it more expensive, they should have hired the cc creators again and make really detailed packs alongside them

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Someone asked about collating with cc creators in the future & they said they would consider it but that's not a given

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Steven Chippss
Steven Chippss

Like what I have said previously, $5 is not it. It's only 1/3 of a stuff pack, should be $3 at max, but this is EA, so honestly I'm not surprised. Hopefully, there's gonna be sales in the future, and if it drops to $3 then maybe.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yep I agree. It just is too much for what's there

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Dawn G
Dawn G

How is this justified,these kits are alot smaller in comparison to game,stuff and expansion packs,but yet EA thinks that $4.99 =£4.99 wtf,thats not even half of a game pack price,we already pay well over the odds here in UK compared to US,i expected these to be about £2-£3 but not this,this is daylight robbery,i fear for the future of this franchise

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

So the way I see it is that they are dividing stuff packs into three, but the pricing does not line up

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nycole00
nycole00

I do hate that I have to pay for EVERYTHING but we need them to make the game run better.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah I wish that was more of a priority

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Caitlyn
Caitlyn

How many packs do i need to buy to get good gameplay??? Im over it. I dont think I will be buying any more content from ea.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

The thing is I don't see any of these improving the game

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M Fazar Izzamuddin Tengku
M Fazar Izzamuddin Tengku

I think paranormal stuffpack is a good thing, and you can clearly see they increase the size of the stuff pack even without looking at price comparison. Here is the thing why I agree with iron seagull, the Sims 4 dlcs isn't only a stuff pack, but also game pack and expansion pack, and now kit. I love the addition of game pack because the game is more focus, and I think they nailed it most of the time. Expansion? It's definitely a downgrade and I think it's because they focus more on the visual stuffs rather than overall giving you a lot of stuffs that expand and to play around with. The way I see it is that kit is basically things you couldn't included in other Packs but EA still want to milk the money out of them, which i Would be okay if they actually have at least decent composition for an expansion pack, but they didn't.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah. I think Paranormal was a good step in the right direction-- you can tell a lot of effort went into it. I agree...oddly the Expansions often feel sadly watered down

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MangaMarodon
MangaMarodon

Now they could turn "My first pet" stuff pack into a kit pack xD

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

LOL you're not wrong

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Bren
Bren

20% of the content for 50% of the price. Anyone who buys these is encouraging this mess.

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Bren
Bren

@Simmer Erin I think it's even worse than that. 70 items + gameplay for a sp but 15 items for a kit? I've noticed this trend since playing Sims 4. I've always paid attention to how big each piece of dlc is in bytes. Ts4s are smaller in general than 3's but at least they charged a level unit price up until now

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

The way I see it, they are splitting a sp into 3-- so it costs about $5 USD more than a sp normally would be

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Andrew Moeller
Andrew Moeller

While I can see your viewpoint on these, as I said before in your comments on earlier videos on the Kits, I like the idea of smaller more focused packs. You get just what you want, or avoid packs that have nothing for you. Price per item/gameplay are they more expensive than some stuff packs? Yes. But, do you like every item in a pack? Probably, more often then not, you do not like EVERY item or gameplay aspect of a pack. So while a Stuff pack might cost $9.99 and come with 70 items and some gameplay, what if you only like 17 of those items, and only 1 new gameplay feature? For you personally, it might be better to get the $4.99 Kit, in which you like 13 of the 15 items. Would I prefer these to be $3.99? Or $2.99? Yes, but look at that kitchen. I mean just look at it! I've never said this before, but "chef kiss," is there an emoji for that? I don't know, but I digress... Does the game need focus on fixing of bugs and glitches? Yes, very much so. Is this new stuff designed to make us forget about them? Yes, you know it it. Ooooh, shiny object... But if they didn't put out these Kits, does that mean bugs would be fixed? Nope, probably not. I for one, will get the Kitchen Kit, but the other two, I might hold off on and see if they go on sale... doubtful though. Watching the livestream, I was intrigued by the gameplay that the Bust the Dust kit adds. It appears to add some much needed difficulty to the Sims. Just think about living in a Haunted House that has Dust enabled, and do that as a 100 baby challenge? Would dust bunnies and dust fiends feud with Specters? For quite some time, many in the Sims community have been saying the Sims is too easy, well here are a few things that increase the difficulty, and that is good (as well as option to turn dust features off). And two more things, as a person who grew up in the 90s, that clothing pack doesn't look too bad either. Some MAJOR Fresh Prince of Bel-Air vibes for sure! The best thing about Sims DLC packs, is that, if you want them: go get 'em. If you don't want them: avoid them.

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Andrew Moeller
Andrew Moeller

@Simmer Erin so, I just got the Country Kitchen Kit. 🤗 I love it so much! The fully wooden counters are great! And these island counters are the 1st ones (that I have anyway) that correctly have the doors and drawers on the side opposite of the eating side. I wish other counters at least had them on both sides, or an option to pick. This Kit would have worked great for my mid-1800s house. I see it mixing well with Jungle Adventure and Cats and Dogs very well. And best yet... the stove and sink are functional "Off the Grid." I haven't yet checked out the items in Live mode, but they look great! A much better extra kitchen option than the Cool Kitchen Stuff pack, as that one was more modern looking. Oh, and the stone flooring and walls are perfect for my typical builds. Finally I have another stone floor option besides the Jungle Adventure ones. Comparing the prices and stats of the fridges and stoves in the game, the Kit ones are great! Pancakes at Dawn Stove $600 Food Quality: 7 Power Consumption: 3 Reliability: 8 +cooking skill Functional Off the grid (Cheapest base game stove is $400, FQ: 3, PC 2, R 3. Next cheapest is $1050, FQ 4, PC 2, R 5. To get 7 on food quality, the base game one is $3940!) The Country Charm Fridge isn't as great for price, but is the cheapest off the grid option: $1750 Food Quality: 5 Power Consumption: 6 Reliability: 6 +Cooking Skill Functional off the grid Island Counter: $265 Counter: $275 Country Charm Sink: $265 Hygiene: 5 Water Consumption: 4 Reliability: 5 Functional off the grid Once I do get out of Build mode and into Live mode, for my starting Sims, I really like to look for cheaper items, and often look for rustic items, so this Kit is right up my alley. Oh, and that decor bucket, has apples, potatoes, Lemons, and little pumpkins (but you could say one of the apple ones are onions.) So, if you like a country, rustic look, these items are perfect!

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Thanks for your analysis. For me it comes down the pricing and timing but I do understand for certain players it could be helpful if done well. I do feel it would be nice to see them get a but more inventive. Thanks

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Cubs McGee
Cubs McGee

They are the price I was hoping. I was afraid they''d make them 7.99 or something stupid like that. I think $5 is fair and if they put out kits that I'm interested I'll be fine paying $5, but of course I'll always look for sales. I don't think I'll be buying any of these because none of them interest me at all. We shall see for future ones.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah they also don't seem terribly unique. I'd like to see them to things a bit more innovative-- something that they might otherwise be hesitant to include

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CrotchWolf
CrotchWolf

LittleSimsie did a review of the three packs and the contents seem to be pretty decent quality cas and buy items. Their still overpriced but at least your getting some decent stuff for your game.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah I don't think it is bad per say but the price is a bit off putting

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WiseG33k
WiseG33k

Love your suggestion to use kits as a way to try out new ideas, test new mechanics, etc. The Sims is such a predictable series, it's in dire need of new ideas. The devs need to be allowed by EA to take risks!

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I totally agree!

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Mo Daniels
Mo Daniels

I’m not to bothered by it. It a hobbie I enjoy. Sims4 games play may not be the greatest but it still fun to me do I know eventually I’m going to buy them.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

fair enough hope you enjoy when you do

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CaffeinatedxUnicorn
CaffeinatedxUnicorn

These seem weirdly inconsistent some of them seem to have very few items and some of them almost have as many as a stuff pack. I wish they would of at least made them all consistently the same number of items.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah almost think they should be different prices

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Patricia Jones
Patricia Jones

When I seen the casserole dishes were unusable I got really disappointed with the country kitchen kit😔

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

yeah me too

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Mcculloch Marry
Mcculloch Marry

Maybe we can farm the dust bunnies and mow the grass with the vacuums?

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

very interesting. idk if they will ever do farming or not

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Digital Brinjen
Digital Brinjen

I've bought all 3 kits, haven't played them yet. I do have a couple of questions though. How often do they plan to release these kits and are they an addition or are they winding back on the packs? We're in March now, which means they should be releasing a game pack this month (looking at previous years). Is a game pack still coming out, or were these kits what we're getting instead? While it's not known, I'm holding back my judgement on the cost factor. Edited to add: Can the questions, SimGuruFrost has said the kits will have no impact on the release of packs, he also said they will not supplement packs and have standalone themes.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I don't know yet. I will try to look into it

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salem bn
salem bn

Well, I wasn't thinking on buying them already because none of the themes are of my interest, but I do feel they are quite overpriced and that sits wrong with me :/

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah I think they are a bit pricey

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Kyler Rettberg
Kyler Rettberg

I bought all 3 their reallly good and fun

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

cool! I hope you enjoy

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Nerdy
Nerdy

A lot of these smaller packs should have been free (like the holiday and cultural items) in my personal opinion. I don't want to vacuum irl why would I pay for it in a life simulation game.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Idk I guess I just feel like these don't feel super unique you know

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magnus87
magnus87

For me the biggest problem with these objects is that most of them could be made by MODs. EA has to bring us things that mods cannot do, for example new worlds / neighborhoods. One of the biggest shortcomings of TS4 is its neighborhoods, they have too few lots for us to build houses or businesses. We have only one world with apartments. They could recycle existing neighborhoods in TS4 to give them a new look or bring classic worlds from previous games, adapted to the mechanics of The Sims 4.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah I do agree I'd agree I'd like them to bring unique things

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sedriensmorgasbord
sedriensmorgasbord

Honestly, I feel like $3.99 would be a fairer price.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I agree

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sedriensmorgasbord
sedriensmorgasbord

I really don't like how they're pulling every tiny little feature and putting it into its own pack to monetize literally everything about the game. If they're trying to give a better value, that's great, but why is every little aspect of gameplay suddenly getting its own pack? Why does vacuuming have to be its own pack? Why is laundry its own pack? I just feel like we're getting less and less actual gameplay with each purchase because they continue splitting content into separate packs.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

It worries me mostly for the future if they do more

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27lalitha
27lalitha

I'm not interested and i won't buy any of these kits.And i agree we'll get more in one stuff pack than in 2 or 3 kits! I'll just wait for the next pack

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

yeah, wonder if they will keep doing stuff packs

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Ladybug Red
Ladybug Red

How often are these gonna be made? They said they’d release them only once at a time, but how often? Like every month?

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

not sure yet

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Simswunder
Simswunder

I didn't watch your honest review yet, but seeing Microtranscription for the Sims 4 is bad. At this point I'm just done with the game (gameplay wise).

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

right. I don't think they are those, but I do worry it is headed that way

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BatmanFanGirl
BatmanFanGirl

I think in general you make a really good point about focusing on things that are less popular. Although I would argue that vacuuming isn't something a ton of people want. And although I want country style I am not sure how popular it is with the general public. Finally, i can't really comment on fitness stuff because I think we have plenty in game and although I like a pair of shorts and a jacket in the pack, it's not worth paying five bucks for me at all. I think we need a nightwear kit. There are hardly any pj's or nightgowns in the sims. I've had to download a bunch of cc in that department. Also to add to your "complaint" I too am so sick of crop tops. I think part of it is I don't like them in real life, so I don't like them on my sims. I feel like once my sims reach adulthood it's kind of inappropriate. Just my personal opinion.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah.True that probably would not be though it could fit into a pack in theory. Yeah I guess I just want to see them get more innovative

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TR3205
TR3205

It's the Sims 3 Store all over again. It was a rip off before with the store. All of the items were super overpriced, and if you wanted a lot of new gameplay-type items, it was even more expensive. If these kits were $2, I could understand it - CAS, build/buy, and no extra gameplay (not including the vacuum). I cannot personally justify spending $5 on content that SHOULD have been added to the existing game. And I know there isn't much of a difference between $5 and $2, but it's also the overall principle. The store sucked before, these new kits & microtransactions suck now (from my perspective at least). I sincerely hope there isn't a microtransaction type concept in TS5.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

That is my worry. See I love Sims 3 but I'd never support the store

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zlotka798
zlotka798

Aspiration system in Sims 4 is a joke, I don't get it. With that new kit, we get 2 aspirations about house work. Meanwhile we have 0 apirations about being a doctor, lawyer etc.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yep. I want them to be connected to deep life goals

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Sam Love
Sam Love

I thought kits would be $5.00. Fifteen dollars for vacuum more like $200 and above. I really hope the kits don't come with glitches. Thanks for the update. Erin :)

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

LOL I wish they were that cheap in real life me too

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Johanna Julén
Johanna Julén

I feel like pack releases used to be special. They happened seldom and we would get all excited. Now they come every week it feels like, and they are always shallow and we are even told by the ones supposedly marketing the game to "not buy them"...

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

That's a good point. I kinda agree

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Jimbo
Jimbo

It’s like buying a Big Mac without getting my order messed up 🤣🤣🤣 no but honestly some of the stuff packs should have been $5 instead of $10. As I can see they are not a huge problem for $5 😊 I think I will have to get a few

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

LOL nice analogy

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James Ellis
James Ellis

I like them. They are exactly what I thought they would be. Bite sized pieces of content that are faster to produce because they don't have to wait on a certain pack to release these things. I think they are priced well. The CAS pack should include more though in my opinion. It has the most items, but I feel like we need a wider variety of items. Also, I like the clothes from it, especially the shoes. My hopes are that they release 1 at a time in between the packs, but at the most only release 5-6 per year. If they pump them out like they did the early stuff packs, that is when I'm gonna have an issue with them. In the livestream Ninja did say that in the future it won't be 3 at a time, it will be 1 at a time. So that has me hopeful that my hopes will be more closer than reality for the kits. Final thoughts about kits, them doing these while the core game is still in need of some love, and the price. I think 2 of the 3 are priced fairly, while the Throwback fit kit is a little over priced based on the amount of variety of types of clothes we get in the kit. I don't have a problem with them doing these little bits of content between packs, even though they need some bg updates and overhaul. I believe they can and are working on those things as well as these, but aren't ready to put those out yet. I think these are a good idea, but I still want to give it time to see what other kits are coming and also if glitches happen more because of these. I'm sure there will be some, but probably minor fixes. Overall I still have a positive outlook on these and the Sims 4, but I'm also an optimistic person and think more substantial stuff is being worked on in the background than we know about currently. I am cautiously excited to see what is coming next from the team and kits.

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James Ellis
James Ellis

@Simmer Erin Yeah, Ninja livestreams are always great

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I still don't but I will admit that the game play one was more nuanced than expected. I also think they ran a good livestream

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Honey BobMarley
Honey BobMarley

I expect more for 5$

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

fair enough

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Tay
Tay

I sincerely appreciate your coverage of Sims 4 news no matter how negative or positive. I usually don’t have an opinion other than they are doing a money grab with every pack no matter how much I enjoy them. I am okay with paying for kits because I can *however* I do think they’re too expensive for what they contain and like you said: the context of the releases considering the issues with the system as a whole? Fix that first please 😌 I’m just annoyed for people who want an affordable, functional game.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Thank you! :) Yeah. I think that they are a tad expensive, as it feels like splitting a stuff pack into 3

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Cici Clark
Cici Clark

I don't mind the kits, anything to get more content tbh. Yeah it sucks that they just want to make more money by selling more types of packs, but you kinda have to take what's given. I probably will get the kits, at least one. I think they're priced fairly given the trend of each type of pack being half the price of the one above it. I do wish they would focus on adding more overall gameplay without making it gimmicky or a money grab. It does resemble the Sims 3 store, which sucked as a kid because I wanted the store items so badly and couldn't have them. At least the last update was actually decent and they're adding bunk beds. Win some, lose some.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I do too. It isn't even about the kits so much as that

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Makaylee Jones
Makaylee Jones

I kind of I feel like EA is being so money hungry right now because they know once other simulation games are introduced to the market the Sims franchises will die. So they are trying to rake in the cash now before they are pushed out of the market altogether.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I think actually the sims franchise is doing very well right now...but they know this will be a good seller

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Call_me_Benny
Call_me_Benny

I am afraid, what they're gonna do with the new "mini stuff packs"... a Toaster Kit, mowing machine kit...

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

YIKES

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Mindii Simii
Mindii Simii

It reminds me of the Sims 3 website stuff they released. I understand both sides of the argument between “is it good? Is it bad?” I don’t know. I’m surprised it has taken this long for them to do this to be honest. I bought them. I enjoy it! It’s a little extra “treat” in between packs. I miss you! Also I made this comment as you were talking about what Iron Seagull said. Again, I understand where they are coming from. I am just so frustrated with all the hate lately to EA. It’s exhausting. 🤕

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

yeah pros and cons. Miss you too! I have more time next week, let's catch up!

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Jenna Catherine
Jenna Catherine

I’d rather just support cc creators on Patreon and get well made cc than give my money to EA rn

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I think that's fair

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Izabela Santiago
Izabela Santiago

Hi. Great video, but I did expect to see more indepth about the Kits instead of an overall comments from the community. If it's possible, put on thumbnail or title that it's a video about reactions? Thanks

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I have a video about the full livestream, and my description described what I say

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Leepop pop
Leepop pop

It cool, but I am not going to buy a small pack, with little stuff in it for $5. Is some cool? Yes, but if the kits going to be little they should have let it be $2.99 instead of $4.99 in my opinion. If I am going to buy a pack, wait till it on sale.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

maybe there will be a sale yeah idk

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Kaleigh C
Kaleigh C

I didn't want to believe they were actually going to charge us $5 for this...They basically just showed us all the new free birthday content and went "okay now you're happy so here are some microtransactions!!!" They're so out of the loop regarding what we want :( We just want to see the game get better even if it is wishful thinking. Still, thank you for reporting on the Sims news as always

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Kaleigh C
Kaleigh C

@Simmer Erin That's probably true :/ It would suck having so many good and creative ideas only for the company to tell you they just want a way to make a quick buck

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Sadly I think many of the team does know, but EA may tell them they need to make more dlc

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Alixy
Alixy

I can't believe what I just realized. I might be behind and everybody already knows this but how is it fair that kits are $4.99 when they're also 4.99€ which means that all sims packs are more expensive in Europe than in America. And yeah that might only be 86 cents more expensive but that goes for other packs too so if the sims 4 expansion pack is 39.99€ here that would be $48.36 in America. Now I'm really interested to see prices in UK pounds. How and why is that even a thing packs are not any better here lol

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

The exchange rates may fluctuate and they probably wanted an even number but I do wish it was equal

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Faye Maka
Faye Maka

They literally have entire packs that don't function as intended that people have paid MONEY for and they decide now's the time for microtransactions?

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I do wish they would fix issues first

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ok
ok

Bust the bust is worth it in my opinion the rest of them arent. I hate that in sims 4 you have to try to search for the good packs. Expansion pack title doesnt mean the packs worth it.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah I think that is most worth the price

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Victoria Mattison
Victoria Mattison

I think that the kits could be a good start for someone who just bought the game. I mean, for 15$ you can get a nice kitchen, some new clothes, and a bit of extra gameplay. However, I can't say I'm super excited for the Kits in general, it really does remind me of the Sims 3 store, especially since I've started playing the game again lately. My sister pointed out they should probably be around 2-3 dollars, since their less than half of the items we get in stuff packs. All-in-all, not happy with them, but they have the potential to be something nice for new players, maybe. The only ones I'm most likely to buy are the build ones.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

true. Maybe the appeal is to new simmers

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Silvia Steiner
Silvia Steiner

we have to pay € 4.99 in Europe which is more expensive than in US but I guess the objects are good but it is a bit overpriced I guess these 3 packs are less than the last stuff pack - that costs only € 9.99 thats a bit weird - I thought it would not cost more than 3.99

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah I had a bad feeling it'd be around this price

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Cindy-anne Reed
Cindy-anne Reed

I will be buying all of them.

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Cindy-anne Reed
Cindy-anne Reed

I love sims all of them. I don't really mind what ea throw at us

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Cool, enjoy

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Brookie Brooke
Brookie Brooke

Why would you buy a $5 kit with just 1 gameplay item (4 different types but item functions the same) when you can buy a stuff pack on sale for $6 but has CAS/build n buy/ and usually one gameplay feature even if you bought all kits its $15+ when more come out, it just doesnt make sense to me even if they went on sale

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

It is more nuanced than I expected but I probably wouldn't

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sistakia33
sistakia33

Would I buy it...at least two out of three. YES! I love anything that comes with cool clothes and I love anything that comes in the kitchen! Someone tell me how the dust bunny thing goes. While I like the idea of a vacuum cleaner for decorating purposes...I don't want to do more work! I was all into owning washers and dryers until I had to do laundry! (And yes I mean my butler/maid had to do laundry but the point is I don't want to have to order them to do more work!)

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I covered the livestream on my next video-- I explain it there. There's more too it than I expected

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Demon Tyger
Demon Tyger

I may or may not pick them up on sale. But overall I'm not interested in these. Maybe future Kits will be better. But I do hope they collab more with CC peeps. More tattoos, piercings, alternative styles. That would be nice. Speaking of tattoos, I really wish they'd done something similar to RockBand/Guitar Hero where you could choose what side to put them on. The static this tat is on the right arm, really pisses me off. Especially with the tats from University. Why does this cat have to be on the forearm. What if I want it on the shoulder, hip, ankle. And why can't I add as many tats as I want. The Anchor with the birds on the shoulder would be awesome. But no. You can have the base of back tat with the anchor or birds, but not all three. So if they did a tattoo/piercing kit maybe with a body modification artist career. I would absolutely buy that!

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I hope so too, collating or at least more innovative

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kiwifruitkl
kiwifruitkl

I think I am going to wait a while for a 50% sale. By then, these kits would be worth $2.49 each. Only then I would buy them.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I think that's wise

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Karin Cervantes
Karin Cervantes

Not buying. I wish it weren't so , but what I really want first and foremost are serious fixes to the game play. They do that, sure I might buy. However I do think 3.00 might have been a more fair price. Like you said Erin, if you buy all three its more then a stuff pack. So yeah, not buying.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Me too

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Brittanie Picard
Brittanie Picard

I'd rather the pricing be 2.99. I'll probably get them if they do go on sale.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

sounds smart. idk if they will go on sale or not

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Johanna Julén
Johanna Julén

Argh! 30 SEK would have been fine, 50 SEK is just too steep for this small collections! I guess I'll wait for a sale or just ... NOT buy this.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

that's fair

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Mouse Tales
Mouse Tales

Look i love the sims and it’s addicting but if you get it for free you really shouldn’t comment on the price, and all of these BASIC ITEMS shouldn’t come with a price tag. Weather, pets, a freaking vacuum. Getting all of them is around 85$ if you add basegame you get a whopping 125$.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

It is expensive for sure

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lorraine
lorraine

These kits have really pushed me over the edge and I've decided I no longer want to purchase any sims DLC at this time. It's been disappointment after disappointment. I hope those of us that feel how distasteful and tacky these kits are will not buy them and show EA we're not about this. I want them just to round out my collection but I'm withholding because I know I wont use the items and I'll just be upset that I spent 15$ on things cc creators have already done for free and really well (minus the vaccume which do not appeal to me whatsoever)

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I get that. I guess I don't get why they are introducing them now

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omer sadiku
omer sadiku

3:20 the sims 3 expansions are 19.99 on steam, i know they weren’t originaly that overpriced and that stuff packs still are 19.99 but at least nowdays we can pay half the price for 2x the content we would get in the sims 4

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

yeah hmm I think steam may be cheaper than Origin

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kiwifruitkl
kiwifruitkl

The Sims 3 Store actually had the ability to earn FREE SimPoints and redeem SimPoints with expansion packs. I redeemed 3500 SimPoints with my World Adventures / Generations Bundle recently, and I literally earned boatloads of FREE SimPoints and purchased a ton of items and sets that way at no charge to me.

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Tosh J
Tosh J

Sims 3 store also has a free registration section I got a ton of things for free that way. I love the earth day tree set!

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

true

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Nebraska Jones
Nebraska Jones

I agree with you saying that the base game isn't strong enough to compare packs between games as well as the kits not being substantial/innovative enough. I think we want more because there so much to be desired. I really wish they could slow down the releases and dedicate more time to enhancing the base game. I can't wait to see this laundry list.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

exactly. I think that is a big part of why people are upset

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Kyla Ping
Kyla Ping

I agree this seems like weird timing 6 years into the game. I didn't realize how expensive stuff packs were even back in Sims 2 days! I figured they'd be about $5. If they have 50% sales and sell for $2.50, Bust the Dust might be fun. I care more about the gameplay than CAS or build/buy items

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

it is very odd. idk why now

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Princess Stabbity
Princess Stabbity

I... want to see a silver lining to this, I really do, but no, that's it, I'm done. I'm boycotting this, I'd rather just subscribe to a creator's Patreon, get higher quality stuff and more of it, and know that the money is going to anyone *other* than EA.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

And that is totally fine. I love seeing CC creators get support

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Ella Lundgren Larsson
Ella Lundgren Larsson

5 dollars for one kit?? Idk that kinda expensive for something so small? I dont really get why they made them honestly, are they like left over from previous packs or something? Like they couldnt get the vacuum done in time for laundry day? For me buying all the kits would cost me around 123sek if its 5 dollars. But if I check origin they probably upped the prise for my currency. I could literally buy my favorite game Night in the woods for the same money, and that has WAY more gameplay than these add ons...

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I expected it, for even pricing but I think so. Mostly because it seems they are splitting sp into 3

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Solid Snake
Solid Snake

at the start of the vid: worried about being vindicated! at the end of the vid: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH why am i not surprised! if EA set the kits to £2.99/$2.99 then it be worth it but £4.99/$4.99 is not worth the amount of stuff you get. EA shamelessly trying to cash grab once again

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Solid Snake
Solid Snake

@Simmer Erin agreed but this is the sims 3 store 2.0 with extra's and ive got a horrible feeling this was a EA stockholder sweetener as the new financial year is almost upon them (April 12th) so this coming out at the price it is set at really pisses me off but doesnt surprise me at all. after all EA's gotta keep those greedy stock holders happy ¬.¬ i hate how the once innocent gaming company known as EA Entertainment has become nothing more than Bilal.Inc (Bilal for those who know there Demonocron or "Demon Lore" is the Arch-Demon of Guttony or Lord of Guttony and is a seventh sin Demon) i used the guttony demon as a ref because guttony makes people greedy to feed that want guttony.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I think it is especially odd they are all priced the same actually-- the CAS and BB def seem not enough for $5

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Joan Pedersen
Joan Pedersen

I love they are doing packs for specific play styles, so I as a builder can buy one and leave the rest. I think I will buy the country kitchen pack but I'm not sure if it's going to be now or later.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I see. thanks for your perspective :)

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Arc Angelus
Arc Angelus

I wish all their little 9.99 packs was 4.99 then I would have felt compelled to buy more but for now I won't be buying anything from them until the problems are fixed with the game

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah I think that makes sense

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Autobot Simmer
Autobot Simmer

I thought one was coming in March then another later etc. I think$5 is fine. I still don't think it's a official new pack for how ever long ts4 will last or be apart of ts5. People bitching it's a micro transaction. I get mixed definition of what a micro transaction means but it se ms like it means the fact we don't have a complete game. Well then guess what people? You've been buying micro transactions since the original sims came out. It's always going to be the debate how they could have done it & I can't remember my comment exactly the other day but people proving me right here, how they assume bugs aren't being taken care of cause we're getting stuff but then if there was no talk about the collab with cc creators, the paranormal SP and the kits; by now people would be like when are we getting new stuff? Then the second something is announced; HELLO FIX YIUR FUCKING GAME BEFORE RELEASING MORE SHIT!! Can't believe we're almost 7 years in and people don't realize there's different groups of gurus working on projects has to be how it's always been done for all the packs for ts2 & 3 to be finished & the ts3 store.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I don't think it is a micro transaction either though I am afraid of it inching towards them. But everyone's decision is their own

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Diamond Ocean
Diamond Ocean

its 8 dollars for us in Australia, we normally pay 15 dollars for a stuff pack, not the biggest deal but still annoying

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah

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S P
S P

I'm not mad about the $4.99. If they'll introduce more new items/gameplay more often in smaller amounts I'm all for it. Nando did a break down of price to pack size ratio and it's consistent throughout including with kits, so instead of thinking like this is a microtransaction, I'm thinking of this as just like other packs but more frequent. I'm inpatient so I kind of appreciate this approach.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Got it. I hope you enjoy!

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Diana
Diana

Why do we get 2 aspirations for dust but none for paranormal or dine out etc. I love your take on pushing the boundaries in these kits

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

LOL true. It's almost funny

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Zoey x
Zoey x

I wasted so much money on TS3 store! I personally don't like the idea of kits, it's a massive money grab for things that should have been included in other packs

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

I never used TS3 store and am kinda glad yeah

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pablo pxtaa
pablo pxtaa

I was pleasantly surprised when I tuned into the livestream, seeing them in live mode and all of the interactions, especially the vacuuming kit, I’m here for it but I need them to add more to basegame to people who don’t have the means to buy extra stuff that will barely add to the game, no shade.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Yeah. I was not impressed at all so much with the first two but I do think at least they put effort into the gp one

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Manpup Buck
Manpup Buck

I am Canadian and here it cost 6.99.. So 7 bucks for that? 7 bucks for 5 vacuums? No. Clothing no.. Kitchen i like but no. I was hoping it was going to be lower price.. Or atleast same price as us players.

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

Sorry! Yeah exchange rates can be frustrating

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Kawaii Mika
Kawaii Mika

I hate Twitch, I missed half of the livestream and I can't watch it back 😠

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Kawaii Mika
Kawaii Mika

@Simmer Erin I watched it, thank you 🥰

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

So sorry! I did cover it in my next video. not perfectly but should give you an idea

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Empress Song Mi Young
Empress Song Mi Young

you ain't missing much but people are starting to like the bust the dust kit in the live stream

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Leah Miller
Leah Miller

Side note : TS4 has sales like all the time😂just wanted to throw that in there. Personally I won’t be paying £5 for vacuuming (even tho I like the idea) unless it’s on sale. One benefit I can see. If someone only plays TS4 for building, they can get a pack just for building without paying for cas sets. Same for people who like gameplay and cas

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Simmer Erin
Simmer Erin

They do. Though they don't usually have them for stuff packs as much so I wonder how often kits will go one sale

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Vee
Vee

On PS4 we rarely see sales on Stuff packs.

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Leah Miller
Leah Miller

@Charlie Lesmes stuff packs get sales! They usually do 25% off but they’ve done 50% before. I have gotten all my sims 4 packs on sale, including the stuff packs (I’m a bit tight with money lmao)

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Charlie Lesmes
Charlie Lesmes

But aren’t the sales only for game packs and expansion packs? I don’t think we’ve had stuff packs getting sales

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