Medieval Misconceptions: the TRUE origin of the KNIFE SWORD - Messer

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    No, the messer or 'knife sword' was not made to allow peasants to carry a sword like weapon when sword carrying was illegal. Here's the real answer.
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The Keystone Attentäter avantgardisiert
The Keystone Attentäter avantgardisiert

My favorite blade tbh is the Messer

Vor 26 Tage
Soren54241
Soren54241

My question is why didn't the sword guilds make really small swords, like dagger sized?

Vor 26 Tage
Alexandre Tiberinus
Alexandre Tiberinus

You could get well soon, but you took an arrow in the knee

Vor Monat
Illien Galene
Illien Galene

If you ever need someone to go into German Archives or talk to experts in medival research in Germany. Just ask.

Vor Monat
ChromeMan04
ChromeMan04

Swords basically evolved from knifes

Vor Monat
Sword and Shield
Sword and Shield

So the messier is a knife?

Vor Monat
TheJolle
TheJolle

So swords were the Coca Cola and knife swords were the Pepsi. I got it

Vor Monat
RivantCanton
RivantCanton

I agree with the new theory about the sword and knife guild stuff being more likely over than citizens being banned from owning swords theory, but at the same time you should look into United States Short Barrel Rifle restrictions and AR-15 pistols for funsies.

Vor 2 Monate
george floorman
george floorman

Why do tanks shoot missels when they should obviously shoot pomels

Vor 2 Monate
Melissa Thieme
Melissa Thieme

verry good pronounciation, but the letter A in Nagel is actually suposed to be pronounced like an "uh" sound

Vor 2 Monate
ccvcharger
ccvcharger

Sounds like medieval German guilds really made a messer things. Okay, I'll leave.

Vor 2 Monate
Desperado
Desperado

Caboolture? Hah i wonder if you live in QLD. Always wondered.

Vor 2 Monate
ILoveFilm247
ILoveFilm247

Even if it is actually incorrect, the theory about the knife sword coming about due to circumvent regulation isn't completely outrageous, governments still pass weird, but specifically worded laws that citizens then find interesting work-arounds and loopholes for.

Vor 2 Monate
Cody Evans
Cody Evans

*Crocodile Dundee wants to know your location*

Vor 3 Monate
Azo rious
Azo rious

As a German im pleasantly surprised how well you pronounced those words! 👏

Vor 3 Monate
gustav fraser
gustav fraser

Omg commoners are newer allowed to bear arms no sword no gun this is why communists are layed to the sloghter I mean criminals don't give a dam it's the common man who ends up dead

Vor 4 Monate
William Dolde
William Dolde

Blackened reappearest

Vor 4 Monate
Un-ironic Reference.
Un-ironic Reference.

Germany invented some Weird Weapons...this one is the least weirdest one, although i confused the guard a horde lot.

Vor 4 Monate
Aaron Ham
Aaron Ham

Get well soon You muppet

Vor 4 Monate
Kirainian Gaming
Kirainian Gaming

Shad, I would have LOVED to go. But I’m too poor to buy plane tickets to Australia 😂

Vor 4 Monate
A C
A C

*sees Elmslie Type 1b* *glances at St. Peter furtively*

Vor 4 Monate
Oroberus
Oroberus

I'd say it was about scaring the enemy. What do people think about the german language? It's a rough, strongly pronounced and tough sounding language, like russian. So having your weapons name end with -SER general sounds way more agressive then ending on an -ERT, especially if you also put a KR and a GS in it. Every native english speaker will find the sound of KRIEGSMESSER(!) way more intimidating then SCHWERT(!). Well, that's just bullshit I just made up but it could be possible! ^.^

Vor 4 Monate
Snafu
Snafu

Query: is the riveted hilt design inherantly stronger (at the hilt/blade interface) than the earlier 'tang thru the hilt' design? ISTM the answer is 'yes!', leading to the question of: aside from 'guild restrictions' why did the 'tang thru the hilt' design persist for so long? Simple intellectual inertia? Ease of manufacture?

Vor 4 Monate
sinephase
sinephase

so guilds were basically the original form of a corporation

Vor 4 Monate
sinephase
sinephase

cuz it's awesome

Vor 4 Monate
Celestial Salamander
Celestial Salamander

this sounds like a good idea for a side quest in the Witcher or some similar midlevel sandbox game. some NPC approaches the player and asks them so stop someone from violating a contract they have to be the exclusive provider of swords to a particular buyer. after a bit of investigation the player is tasked with deciding for the entire game location weather a Messer is a sword or not.

Vor 4 Monate
S B
S B

isnt a sword just a longer knife ? there for this is just a "long knife" or a "short sword"

Vor 4 Monate
Alioth Ancalagon
Alioth Ancalagon

German guilds were basically on steroids. On one hand they ruled their markets like the medieval version of a chinese controlled economy. On the other hand their high standard paved the way for centuries of German craftsmanship principles.

Vor 4 Monate
Silvana Barilla
Silvana Barilla

Don´t repeat that false wisdom of the idiots - Germany WAS a country, a Reichsstaat, as much as England or France were countries at the time (or not)...

Vor 4 Monate
Wolfe Vlogs LLL
Wolfe Vlogs LLL

Get well soon

Vor 4 Monate
TerLoki
TerLoki

Difference between a messer and a sword? Well one's made by a guy who makes swords and the other is made by a guy who makes knives. ...And eventually airplanes.

Vor 4 Monate
andrewxc1335
andrewxc1335

"Sword-kniiiiiiife! For kids!"

Vor 4 Monate
Casual Sleeping Dragon
Casual Sleeping Dragon

Maybe they're called "gross messer" is because made their victims a mess witch was gross.

Vor 4 Monate
Ferdinan Jakarta
Ferdinan Jakarta

Craftsman:let's make a big ass sword with 16 centimeters long blade Guard:the law forbid it Craftsman: well,let's make the blade 15,6 centimeters long Guard:-_- Craftsman:do I still surrpas the law? Guard:ok then,go on making your oversized kitchen knife

Vor 4 Monate
Afqwa
Afqwa

Joachim Meyer was a cutler. He was basically a martial arts fanboy who wrote a book as a resume to get his dream job as a military instructor. He died after he got the appointment though, and left his wife a ton of debt. So it didn't work out. But hey, at least we have his manual now.

Vor 4 Monate
loudness1024
loudness1024

Sounds logical and with the guilds the sword-smith guild where probably holding the price for a sword at a higher end. So the Cutler guild saw a market of crafting cheaper swords to sell their items to client that can't afford the sword. Basically it's a tactic big companies still use, they have their named Product and sell that for a higher price and then they got a no-name brand which is essentially the same product, but sold cheaper to also earn money from that market.

Vor 5 Monate
Yamik
Yamik

The difference was probably what was used as a dagger and what was used as a sword. I would assume that if everyone has the right to bear a sword, that daggers would be a compact option some citizens might opt for.

Vor 5 Monate
DragonLife
DragonLife

The rule with how long a blade may be to carry it in public still applies in Germany. However, I've been told that if you call it a tool it cannot be considered a weapon, regardless of it's length.

Vor 5 Monate
NAME S!!!
NAME S!!!

FucKing anti-wepon people

Vor 5 Monate
NAME S!!!
NAME S!!!

Oh yes love the right to bear arms I have guns

Vor 5 Monate

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