Love Never Dies: A Magnificent Musical Trashfire Sequel to Phantom of the Opera

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    Lindsay EllisLindsay Ellis

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    00:00:00 buy my book
    00:03:37 Phantom, a summary
    00:05:32 Let’s try to explain Love Never Dies
    00:22:50 The Phantom of Manhattan
    00:29:27 Why is this
    00:34:39 The ending (is masterful)
    00:38:38 Love Never Dies never dies
    00:42:59 Cat’s in the cradle

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BadassitudePosterGIrl
BadassitudePosterGIrl

“We can’t all be Christine” High school theatre kids at a party would beg to differ.

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coffeeavenger
coffeeavenger

@Liam Ross 25 virgins and a lot of Sprite at the Crucible cast party

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Chris Russo
Chris Russo

​@neuralmute g i r l

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feralnerd5
feralnerd5

@Sophia Walsh Long theoretically I have that note but I still can't hit it in that specific context for some reason

Vor 16 Tage
Kyle Riel
Kyle Riel

2:18 - Satanic hand signs. Lindsay's soul is bought and paid for

Vor 18 Tage
Jaded Wonderland
Jaded Wonderland

@Sophia Walsh Long (with 18 not quite making it)

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Louie
Louie

i don’t think we talk enough about the fact that erik/mr y sent a music box that played the intro to the song about fucking to christine’s son,

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Jessica Dunne
Jessica Dunne

its bad luck to perform in peacock feathers? maybe thats why shes dressed in them?

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quasitonality
quasitonality

The credit's rollin' to the silver spoon and I'm crackin' up and I like "I ain't heard that song in ages" and I'm hittin' pause and opening my music player to listen and gets to the last stanza and I start bawlin' like a baby, DAM YU LINDSAY TIHS UR FAULT 😭😭😭😭

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Krzysztof Olender
Krzysztof Olender

29:24 what's the name of this song?

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Rebecca Klein
Rebecca Klein

2:16 is that an AO3 mug?

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Name Name
Name Name

Ten years OOOOOOOOLD

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currantbun2166
currantbun2166

Confirmed: Andrew Lloyd Webber only hangs out with Frederick Forsyth to try and make himself look like 'the normal one'.

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Maika Clarke
Maika Clarke

It's as good as the first which I found terrible.

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Eric
Eric

Everything would have been forgiven if the songs had been up to scratch. They most decidedly were not.

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Katie Marie
Katie Marie

My Immortal playing softly in the background during the fanfic trope explanation 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻

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Thahnewgrinch
Thahnewgrinch

Are you gonna do a Stephen Sondheim video, that'd be cool af

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Xpert PSI Princess
Xpert PSI Princess

Ok...so my family bought season passes for my local theater to get priority to see Hamilton. I had never seen Phantom somehow, but I watched Love Never Dies because it was there that weekend and it was free for me. It was absolutely incomprehensible to me, and it's good to know I wasn't just ignorant and this show is an actual clusterfuck.

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Grace Period
Grace Period

Lindsay I am DYING for your thoughts on Tick...Tick...Boom! because all I'm hearing is that everyone loved it and I'm not sure I did. I thought the framing device was apologizing for it being a musical; I thought Lin's direction was too profoundly inspired by Jon Chu's direction of In the Heights (which I loved, but I'm not sure works for this story); and I had a hard time reconciling the changes made to Larson's narrative, obviously posthumously. I'm also sure the crazy timing is affecting my perception, but it all seemed more like a Sondheim tribute than a Larson tribute. If you loved it, I love that for you! Just wanted to get some other thoughts

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Erica Lindblad deJongh
Erica Lindblad deJongh

"I'm losing to a bird!" "See how I glitter..." and now....."Give me the gun, Meg!"

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Melissa Matos
Melissa Matos

Maybe would make sense if Meg Geary was the phantom's daughter too?

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Hungry Films
Hungry Films

Ah yes my favourite city’s Toronto, London… And Australia.

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Francesca Pellegrini
Francesca Pellegrini

Ok, LND is a whole clusterfuck of a musical, but you know what really, REALLY bothers me? Ben Lewis. His goddamn voice, his goddamn atrocious facial expressions, his goddamn demeanor, his goddamn TEENY TINY HANDS attached to the body of Frankenstein. WHY DID THEY CHOOSE HIM???

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Lady Kenna
Lady Kenna

The "phantom sperm" art is the one drawing I didn't know I needed in my life.

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Gustav Gnöttgen
Gustav Gnöttgen

Can't wait for the prequel

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A Casual Cactus
A Casual Cactus

A Coney Island freak show owner invites his love interest and her husband to Coney Island, where he finds out that the child is his, scars the child for life, and then negotiates a hostage crisis where one of his employees is trying to throw a child off a pier.

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MisterTwister
MisterTwister

This is like if we got a Spider-Man 4 where Peter decided that actually the symbiote was good and it didn’t matter that he hit Mary Jane with it.

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cinquine
cinquine

I set a reminder for Oct 21 2031, so I can come back and remind everyone how old this video is.

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Karen Holl
Karen Holl

in my opinion, Till I Hear You Sing is the only good thing to come out of this show. Ramin's version is perfection. But everything else? the same level of characterization assassination as s8 game of thrones

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Awkward - Sama
Awkward - Sama

Yeah, this shits a big oof. I'm gonna be honest tho, I've always loved Phantom of the Opera, because I felt like christine and the phantom were like two halves of Myself, opposites in a completely toxic relationship, like dancing with your demons, and such, but also seeing it as trying to understand the darkness within, as everyone has a shadow, reasoning with it, showing it love when nothing else will, to stop it from not just hurting others but itself. When I found Love Never Dies however, I almost liked it more, because the music was so beautiful, made my soul like WOOSH and I related to alot of the songs in a way separate from the storyline. But yeah, maybe my love for it was also because it says Fanfiction all over it, as if the phantom wrote it, from delusions of grandure. It's tragic, painful, and absolutely misses the whole point of the first production, but despite all of that, it still has a place in my heart because of how much it meant to me at the time of discovering it. It may be a trashfire, but its dear to my heart nontheless. And hey, you gotta admit, the songs hit~

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traketso
traketso

Never knew this existed, fortunately.

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Zari Belle
Zari Belle

Since it’s said POTO was nearly a love letter to Sarah Brightman by Webber, when they divorced he may have gone off the rails and tried to put his feelings of sadness and loss into LND. The part of Christine was quite literally written for her. He even referred to her as his muse and Angel of Music in real life. Instead it comes out jumbled and confused, probably reflecting his feelings also. Either way, as POTO is my favorite musical of all time, LND was a disappointment.

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coolbanana165
coolbanana165

Is Meg a femcel?

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Amanda G
Amanda G

15:00 reminds me of repo genetic opera

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Nicholas T.
Nicholas T.

Honestly like the story of this show is excessively terrible but like... The music is still damn good, like Beneath a Moonless Sky is gorgeous if you ignore the meaning.

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Talia Fraser
Talia Fraser

that snippet of I Knew You Were Trouble by Taylor better be (Taylor's version) or SO HELP ME.

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Andrew Willoughby
Andrew Willoughby

Man "Michael Jacksoning a kid" has a COMPLETELY different meaning in my book

Vor 3 Tage
Aaron
Aaron

why the fuck is your lighting so damn bright holy shit you look like a ghost.

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xxmidnight12xx
xxmidnight12xx

I liked Meg in the phantom of the opera, why did they have to ruin her character. Same with the madame

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Ray Pat
Ray Pat

The one thing I can give to this LND is that everyone’s voice is very lovely!

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scarylion.roar
scarylion.roar

"And, plus, you can't count L. She wanted to go back to the morgue, I helped her." Did Agent J kill Agent L?

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Ripley
Ripley

what truly destroys me is that all of these performers in love never dies are super talented. fantastic singers and good actors and yet, do they realize that this show is a dumpster fire? their talents could be better used elsewhere in, i don’t know… the original show that was fine where it ended?

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Ray Pat
Ray Pat

Agreed haha. I guess you have to get a paycheck no matter what it is in theater 🥲 The soundtrack is (MOSTLY) amazing just because of the voices alone

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Lauren Blosser
Lauren Blosser

I've never actually looked into this sequel because I knew it'd be bad but I'm so glad I watched this video haha.

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MerMer
MerMer

Love Never Dies is like an unaware comedy xD

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Ian
Ian

When you've created a cultural milestone, you HAVE to be satisfied with that! Making a sequel of a great work of art can ONLY drag it down. Sequels are kind of trashy, to begin with.

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Laura Pernas
Laura Pernas

ok but are u gonna drop the fanfic link 👀

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Cotton Candy
Cotton Candy

Aaaawwwe I loved it. Although the kids pretty cheesy

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Joanne Lee
Joanne Lee

The photoshopped faces of Phantom and the kid at the end tho

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Send Pie
Send Pie

Love Never Dies: but you DO. Notice me, semPhantom! The yandere tame (and lame) route.

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Lic021
Lic021

somewhere deep in the depths of private messages to my best friend is my live reactions of the first time I watched LND (or 'Phantom 2:Electric Boogaloo', as we call it), back in early 2020 when it was put up on youtube as part of The Shows Must Go On. about a year-ish later I made them watch it with me and it took twice as long because we were constantly pausing it to scream at what was going on and now the third part in the saga, I've just sent them this video

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neckpeck
neckpeck

credit where it's due, for as shitty as the script is meg's actress makes the most of what she's given. her performance is great honestly

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Francine Arcieri
Francine Arcieri

I love the Phantom Of The Opera the Phantom is my honey bunches indeed

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Tareltonlives
Tareltonlives

#phamina

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ENK
ENK

"Give me the gun Meg..." (I can't) 😂

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ENK
ENK

This cringe of this show, the utter utter cringe, never again... 🤦‍♂️😂

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HydrangeaDragon
HydrangeaDragon

PLEASE TALK ABOUT GEROGE OF THE JUNGLE FOR THE FEMINIST MASTERPIECE THAT IT IS!!!!!!! IT IS AMAZING AND I LOVE IT!!!!

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Shenorai
Shenorai

As far as why the Girys were the ones smuggling out The Phantom in the first place, Madame Giry has a habit of helping him flee from murder charges. I'm fuzzy on the details in the novel, but the movie showed that Erik had killed the freak show carnie who kept him in a cage as a child, then Madame Giry - who was also a child on a sort of field trip to see the freak show - led Erik to the catacombs under the opera house to hide him there. With the murders of Piangi and the stage hand known to the public, Erik was, once again, being hunted for murder. I guess Madame Giry thought that she could help him again, but this time for a price. After all, she has a daughter to support. Hence why she's pissed about everything being given to Gustav instead.

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nejdalej
nejdalej

Lmao can't believe the sequel of the most successful musical of all time is Phantom of the Low Rent Cabaret.

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Roz W. Brazel
Roz W. Brazel

🎂 *HAPPY BIRTHDAY LINDSAY!!* 🎂 Congrats on the million views just in time for the day!

Vor 8 Tage
Slytundracat
Slytundracat

This made me sad… my favorite musical thrown in THE TRASH

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Rachel Adams
Rachel Adams

Watching the film, I paid attention to the dates, such as when it was supposed to have happened and her birth and death date on her tomb. Turns out, she's 16 when all of the crazy Phantom stuff happened. So he's been teaching her to sing as 'her father' and then, when she's 16 he makes the moves on her. That isn't love, that be grooming. A sequel on the original story of the Phantom grooming Christine is just an extra layer of eugh. It's not the age gap, it's the fact that he holds a position of power (in Christine's head anyway) over her as her tutor. Eugh!!

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livia raquel
livia raquel

judge me but I love the musics in this show

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Lobelia Owl
Lobelia Owl

10:44 "my immortal" playing in the background whilst discussing fan fiction tropes is a stroke of genius

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Lalita Limón
Lalita Limón

I cant believe i did not hear it before! genius indeed

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Salomón Anderson
Salomón Anderson

I think lindsey ellis is kinda hot whos with me

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Limbo Bilbo
Limbo Bilbo

So this is basically just Lloyd Webber explaining how you have to like the phantom because he’s webber’s self insert

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Limbo Bilbo
Limbo Bilbo

15:58 Where…..where did his hair go?

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Niko Carcosa
Niko Carcosa

Does a woman on stage dressed as a male peacock count as drag?

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Jessica Hamerle
Jessica Hamerle

i can’t believe i’m old enough to remember when ALW’s cat stepped on his keyboard and deleted half the score of love never dies as he was working on it, therefore buying us more time before it came out… even THEN fandom knew nothing good would come of it. ANYWAY lmao my favorite “Phanfic” will always be phantom by susan kay, it definitely gets pretty “erik is so smart and sexy” but I feel like she had more respect for the characterization of the actual characters… but it’s also been at least ten years since I’ve read that one either lmao

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roial
roial

oh my god are you kidding?? I cant believe I've never heard this. it explains so much

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A_TheatreNerd
A_TheatreNerd

wait peacocks and blue symbolize bad luck in theatre and she dies after that so

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Jackson Quinn
Jackson Quinn

I missed you!!!

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Joseph Santi
Joseph Santi

Kaveh rolling at the ending is great

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Jane
Jane

God I hate the phantom of Manhattan part of the video like bro the fuck this guy think he is????

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A Sneaky Lawn Gnome
A Sneaky Lawn Gnome

Her luminous...orbs?

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Marie-Lise Couillard
Marie-Lise Couillard

I haven't watched anything of Love Never Dies other than this review, but from what I can gather, the thing that kills be as that there seems to be real talent in this! I downloaded the song Love Never Dies, it's beautiful, and there are clearly some good actors ( I find Meg Giry's actress really charismatic and she has a beautiful voice). Too bad it's in service of that garbagefire of a story...

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Debilitator47
Debilitator47

Oh, silly me, being an asshole again. MOOD.

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Amirata Amirzadeh
Amirata Amirzadeh

Persians really scare westerners apparently

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Mark Mark
Mark Mark

And we end with a version of "Cat's In The Cradle".

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KomoMn
KomoMn

I actually like Meg being the villain and a more important caracther here. Her holding the Phantoms mask at the end of the original somewhat foreshadows her descent into madness

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Emma Walcott
Emma Walcott

Wow, how dare you reawaken my deep, single-cat-parent love of Phantom of the Opera with this one video

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Coral Roper
Coral Roper

Even the title is stupid. Love dies all the time.

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D A
D A

14:43 phantom biology

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Alex Korobeiniki
Alex Korobeiniki

Oi! Jekyll & Hyde had some really good songs. Or, at least edgelord 15 year old me thought so. And edgelord 29 year old me still thinks so!

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AquilaCat
AquilaCat

After I watched LND I absolutely loathed both Raoul and Erik, wanted to slap Madame Giry, and lamented how horribly Meg was treated (her own mother and the Phantom pimped her out, like... damn, at least that's what it seems to imply) and by the end thought it would be a far better story if Christine and Meg had just ended up together in the first place

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Haley Katz
Haley Katz

Was the Madame on Law and Order as one of the District Attorneys?

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hbdragon88
hbdragon88

I looked up the cast credits - Maria Mercedes, who plays Madame Giry, does not have any "Law & Order" credits.

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Tillie
Tillie

The music playing when Meg came on I don't get it but love it

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C May
C May

Woooooooow

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Dovaking86
Dovaking86

Nice

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Isa
Isa

my mom works in the musical world. was there when phantom came to our country, i told her phatom of the opera has a sequel, she didnt believe me at first.

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Nova7o9
Nova7o9

A few years ago I was so excited to see the Phantom of the Opera live. It was a fantastic production in San Diego but for one huge, glaring flaw that destroyed the entire experience: They retconned it to fit the sequel. In doing so they completely destroyed Raoul’s and Christina’s characters! He was a cheating, uncaring dirtbag and she was a shouty, dramatic weakling. I hated it. I want my money back.

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Tareltonlives
Tareltonlives

I keep rewatching this review. It's basically a review of an awful fanfic and I'm living for it. It's like Cursed Child with slapping musical numbers.

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Shainez Perry
Shainez Perry

Stamina. Phamina.

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Timothy Vinson
Timothy Vinson

The world tour, i worked on the one in Fort Worth as a local.

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Ronnoc527
Ronnoc527

So jealous of the AO3 mug but I'm not made of money and it costs $250

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A Prieto
A Prieto

Mr. Why... *I SHOULD DIE*

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randomtotallyrandom
randomtotallyrandom

...why did the phantom's hair randomly change once he took the mask off during the weird gustav song?

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Joako Fargo
Joako Fargo

Lindsey, is your book's translated to spanish? im interested on read them

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Margeaux Hartline
Margeaux Hartline

My sister showed me Love Never Dies and we played a drinking game she taught me while watching. Any time anyone makes a reference to 10 years having passed, take a drink. Hard mode: drink anytime someone sings the word “beautiful”. We almost died

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f38stingray
f38stingray

34:50 “You never thought you’d be laughing at the end, did you? Laughing so hard you couldn’t breathe!” - Harry S. Plinkett on the end of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith

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Edward TJ Brown
Edward TJ Brown

Great video, as always. I really enjoyed the first book, so naturally i will buy the second.

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00oKMo00
00oKMo00

I listened to 15 minutes and then Lindsay says 'end of Act 1' and I lost my shit. THAT WAS ACT ONE?! Fuck this, I'm out. This musical is garbage and even hearing about it second hand is taxing.

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MelancoliaI
MelancoliaI

Whatever else, I love the Melbourne production. I cherish it. I think of of it as a high-budget treatment of a basic Phanfic with some good songs.

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Cat
Cat

Lindsay Ellis: *posts new phantom video* Roommate& I: *binge all of her phantom content* *Need more* *Start watching phantom content mentioned in Lindsay Ellis videos* *Lord Andy's songs stuck in our head* *The phantom of the opera is here inside my mind*

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Garlic the Gnoll
Garlic the Gnoll

I keep watching this video... AGAIN, AND THEN, AGAIN!

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Felicity D.
Felicity D.

As one of the POTO nerds writing fanfiction years ago (Whose Lair Is It Anyway? for ex.) who also read every version of Phantom she could get her hands (eyes?? more important I think), and who has never actually seen LND (even though I listened to the soundtrack when it came out)... I wholeheartedly approve of the fact that you included the MST3k reaction clip. (Also, I enjoyed this very much. I did a lot of emphatic nodding about the whole Forsythe thing especially.)

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John Ivory
John Ivory

It’s your channel! Don’t apologize for a plug. You should have a backdrop of your cover art and just casually point to it every so often.

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