Let's talk about the Framework laptop that {claims to} support right to repair

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    Louis RossmannLouis Rossmann

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    Let's get Right to Repair passed! gofund.me/1cba2545
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    A lot of my questions were answered in the pinned comment thread. While obviously considerably ahead of other brands, I am skeptical. They invoke right to repair numerous times in their marketing materials & on their site, but can't give a straight answer as to whether schematics will be available for the board. This is one of the fundamental principles of right to repair, that I imagine would be a settled decision long before this comes out - and why I used to sell a t-shirt and mousepad that says, "schematics or die." We await an answer.
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Framework
Framework

Thanks for digging into our product! We'll be releasing more detail as we head towards pre-orders this spring and shipping this summer. Some quick responses: 1) We want it to always be the obvious choice to upgrade or repair the product rather than needing to buy a new one, and we'll be using that philosophy for our pricing. 2) The screen is attached with four fasteners rather than adhesive, and we made the bezel magnet attach in part to make it easier to replace the panel. (the picture at 10:16 is a black bezel) 3) We'll be selling the panel+eDP cable as a replacement item rather than requiring a full lid assembly replacement. 4) We'll be releasing documentation around interfaces to make it easier to debug the product. We'll be restricted from sharing full source around most boards, but we will do what we can to make board-level repair possible for repair shops. 5) The silicon we're using is all off the shelf, but availability at single chip level is up to the chip vendors. Individual chip sale is unfortunately not something we're likely going to be able to offer any time soon. 6) The keyboard is indeed held in with fasteners rather than being heat staked or riveted into place. We have two options here. The first is replacing the keyboard module by itself, which takes a little longer since there are about 50 small fasteners to handle. This is the cheaper and less wasteful path. The second is replacing the full input cover, which is just 5 fasteners, but includes the cost of the cover, touchpad, and fingerprint reader. The choice is yours!

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Aryansh Sharma
Aryansh Sharma

@Framework we can wait for greatness

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theemptyqueue null
theemptyqueue null

@Framework, I've been using the same 17" Dell inspiron 17R (7720) from late 2011/early 2012 for the past 10 years now as my EDC laptop wherever I go. My inspiron is quite the modular machine with everything except for the CPU and motherboard being replaceable. I paid about $1000 for my inspiron and I can definitely say that after almost 10 years it was definitely worth the price as it has served as my EDC computer from high school through college and still does now. The question on my mind now is will the price justify the choice of your offering. I chose my current laptop 10 years ago not knowing how long it will last and future repairabilty and now I think I am ready to make that same choice again because of the results. Based on the video by Louis, the one big question I have about your laptop is whether the laptop comes with at least one of each adapter in the box or will you package each adapter separately or will you only package a few adapters with the laptop and require the purchase other adapters separately? I have lots of other questions too. 0) What adapters can I expect as the standard that come pre-attatched and built-into the laptop upon unboxing? 1) What adapters can I expect to come in the box with the laptop that are separate from the laptop and what adapters can I expect to purchase separately from the laptop? 2) Do the adapters consist of parts with a proprietary design and if that is the case will you then provide CAD templates and hardware so that I can make my own custom adapters or replacement adapters as time goes on? 3) How upgradable will hardware like the CPU and motherboard of the laptop be, will the CPU and motherboard have an SOC design with the CPU built into the motherboard or will the CPU and motherboard be swappable just like a desktop PC? 4) When you release a new model of laptop with new harware, will I need to purchase the new model of your laptop to use the new hardware or will you provide the option to upgrade the existing laptop that I already bought to support any new hardware for as long as you possibly can to minimize e-waste? 5) How modifyable is the laptop design, can I modify the chassis of the laptop so that I add more adapter slots and adapters as time goes on? 6) Will there be support for any large-form internal adapter slots like a slot for an optical CD/DVD drive? 7) Will you provide CAD files so that I can I make my own custom top-plates, bottom-plates, and chassis designs for the laptops you release? 9) How are the adapters connected to the motherboard, PCIE, SATA, or USB, and how fast can I expect a USB-A or USB-C port to be? 10) As time goes by, plastic becomes brittle and starts to break, will you provide the CAD models of any fragile plastic structural parts essential for the functioning of the laptop so that a broken structural chassis element can be easily swapped out instead of wasting resources making a new chassis from scratch or to avoiding shipping small parts? 11) With being able to replace parts easily, what are you going to be shipping as individual parts and what are you going to ship as part assemblies? 12) Are you going to standardize on a motherboard size like desktop PCs have with the ATX standard of design for this laptop design and all future laptops? 13) What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? I await your reply. theemptyqueue null

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Killertruth186
Killertruth186

@Primitive Organism Sorry about the earlier comment, I had thought it was another person talking about mobile egpu. But yes, I still agree that there's way too many people just simply throwing their PC in the trashcan.

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Killertruth186
Killertruth186

@KT Speedruns I am glad there's more than a few people who hates thin and light laptops for heavy uses.

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Primitive Organism
Primitive Organism

@Killertruth186 Lol I think you were the only one to actually read what I wrote!!

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MrDAZ3197
MrDAZ3197

My biggest takeaway from this video is the importance of covering laptop mics when not in use. After all, I cover my webcam, so why not the microphone too? How would you recommend doing this on a Macbook Pro Louis?

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ninline2000
ninline2000

The real problem with Apple isn't so much that they don't make their devices repairable but that they actively attempt to stop anyone from working on them at all.

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Tracy LF
Tracy LF

I thank you for trying to put out a product which is repairable. I despise people who, whenever someone tries to change or do something different from the rest, get dragged through the coals because their design isn't 100% PERFECT (not aimed at you, Louis- you do have legit questions, but in general this happens). You know what, Framework? I am here to say I am HAPPY to PAY MORE for a product that is better/repairable. I don't think I'm alone in this. I don't expect perfection, but I do appreciate a constant attempt at improvement as things, hopefully, move forward.

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Sachnix
Sachnix

Already looking forward to other tech "reviewers" getting their hands on it and saying they cant recommend it bc its not as fast, pretty, doesnt have as big a battery, doesnt feel as "premium", not as cheap, not as quiet, not as cool, etc. etc. as conventional laptops out there, completely missing the entire point. Same happened with the Fair Phone, same will probably happen with this. I really hope thats not going to stop them tho, really hope this will be a success, so I can eventually get my hands on one as someone living outside of the US and Canada.

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Terry O
Terry O

I would assume processing chips are on the board? The idea of having a new board every few years to just swap out with higher specs sounds awesome. Much better than planning how to shove a 2013/14 13in board into my 2012 with extensive dremmel use 🤔

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Flyboy
Flyboy

It comes to something when a repairable laptop is seen as a niche product.

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Random Guy
Random Guy

Sustainable read as non competitive will be used to assassinate someones competition then disposed of as expendable cancel culture.

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Sakari Satunnainen
Sakari Satunnainen

Looks nice and like something I would consider if I ever were looking for a new laptop. For now, my old x230 is satisfactory in doing its job, although the screen is admittedly a piece of excrement. And it's doing its job so far just because thinkpads have been so easy to fix at home.

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Marcus Davis
Marcus Davis

tee-hee.

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Jay Extarys
Jay Extarys

Ppl buying a Frame.work or Librem laptop with hardware kill switch but have an Echo or G Assistant in every room and on their phone... Praïvachy

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Killertiger Gaming
Killertiger Gaming

I don't think anyone actually does that.

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jamoecw
jamoecw

"i may be silly by expressing this concern." probably, but i have the same concern.

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Michael Crumpton
Michael Crumpton

Now if you can choose components that make it easy to hackintosh it would be ideal.

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El Clippo
El Clippo

The "modern“ design of their website raises my doubts...

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Tim O' Callaghan
Tim O' Callaghan

Watching on my thinkpad, smiling smugly

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Kakrona Chan
Kakrona Chan

I'd love to see you buying all the parts, ports and modules then do the review walk us through how this done after this laptop becomes available.

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Stefman
Stefman

"The big fruit" That was funny

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Ben P
Ben P

Those swappable ports would be awesome if they included Ethernet and Serial, for people in networking.

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Gerald Koth
Gerald Koth

Would love to see that laptop that says it will never need repair, but if you run over it with a tank it can be repaired. Apple is Crapple period.

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Chuck Desylva
Chuck Desylva

Have you worked on a pinebook?

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Mario D. Zmaj
Mario D. Zmaj

Why is he afraid to say Apple? Calling it big fruit? Thats not free markets, call em for what they are and let ppl vote with their wallets you may not even need laws to force right to repair.

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Markku Hänninen
Markku Hänninen

If you are afraid of someone listening in, you better take the speakers out as well. If someone has control of your computer to that degree, the speakers can be used as microphone. The quality will be balls but it is possible to record.

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Adrian Fisher
Adrian Fisher

It's Intel though so...

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Will C.
Will C.

If someone had access to my microphone, I think they would just be thoroughly confused by the sounds that they would hear 😂

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Stephen V
Stephen V

on the subject of the screen, there's a promo video on the site that reveals the screws as the person in the clip removes the bezel.

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DBADaddy
DBADaddy

This reminds me a bit about problems with fee-for-service in some licensed occupations. When I was a real estate agent in New Mexico, I wanted to offer piecemeal services, because some customers didn't need the full range of services and would have been better served by offering specific services for a set fee. You had to be a member of the local Realtor organization (remember folks, Realtors are members of a club. "Realtor" is NOT a license category. You cannot be licensed as a Realtor, you get licensed as a real estate agent or appraiser and then optionally join a Realtor organization. Being a Realtor is being a member of a professional club, one that specializes in real estate. You don't need to be a Realtor in order to sell real estate, but you do need a state real estate license.) in order to get access to the multiple listing service (MLS), and without that it was very difficult for a real estate agent to learn about properties for sale because this was before Zillow and other online services. As a Realtor, I was only allowed to sign contracts offering full services and charging a full commission, no matter what the customer wanted. The local Realtor organization actually reduced the amount of information available to the public MLS to force the public to contact a Realtor, the exact opposite of what I thought should be done. I wanted to earn my pay because I provided a necessary service, not because I was a priest with access to secret information. My pushing for more public access and fee-for-service rapidly led me to be persona-non-grata at the local clubhouse and to leave the Realtors after that. Indeed, I was repeatedly told I was not a member whenever I wanted access to a benefit I paid for, and literally with a receipt in hand showing I had paid for my membership renewal minutes before I was told I was not a member when it came time to voting for officers. Right-to-repair and fee-for-service have similar fights.

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DBADaddy
DBADaddy

I never thought much about the screen proportions until I visited the local property assessor's office several years ago. His computer had a 42" wide screen for mapping and a 20" CRT for everything else. The day I visited the screens were duplicated. He had Outlook open, and there was more information on the smaller screen than the larger one due to the change in proportion. So depending on use, particularly where text is involved, a more square screen can provide more information.

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Olivier Famien
Olivier Famien

Louis: microphone spying is more damaging than camera one. Me: they are both damaging. Imagine someone spying on you using your camera when you are naked in your room. This happened to a lady.

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Chris m
Chris m

Thats definitely embarrassing but unlikely to get you in any serious trouble. Certainly wont mark you as a political dissident or a criminal. They wont gain any incriminating information from seeing you naked. For many of us the video would be worse but if you are a political activist like him the audio is a bigger deal.

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erroltheterrible
erroltheterrible

Dell might not be great, but they provide service manuals for (most?) of their notebooks which shows you how to disassemble down to a bare chassis...

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Ξανδρος Peaches
Ξανδρος Peaches

Bezel being held in by magnets its a bit concerning, unless they get it _just_ right to where the bezel doesn't easily pop off yet doesn't require a stupid amount of force to get it loose. Honestly, plastic clips would probably be a better choice. Also the port modules might be nice and all, but are they themselves not just an _extension_ of a type C port? Honestly at that point just have an adapter cable that goes from USB C to the desired port and make the device simpler; internalizing the dongle is only a bandaid and makes the product more complex. Honestly, what I'd rather see from a 'module' is what Lenovo did with their UltraBay stuff, where you could have an optical drive, a second GPU, an HDD caddy, a secondary system fan, etc., where everything worked off of PCIe x8 or SATA, whereas a modernization of the concept could drop SATA entirely; instead of giving me the option of port adapters, give me the option of additional device expandability, whether that be a dGPU, extra storage, more ports, ThunderBolt, an x8 link for an eGPU, etc. I also hope all of the components are supported long-term. I don't want a device that has no repairable parts a few years down the line when the company is all for right to repair. Every device runs into this issue, whether the original company sold parts directly or not, the parts market always dries up and prices get out of control.

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slikdarelic
slikdarelic

i want it!!! i hope its a success

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Nobodyrocked
Nobodyrocked

I don't see any options for AMD cpu. Hope they add that in the future.

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artifactingreality
artifactingreality

this thing still has adaptors its just now they slot into the laptop

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Condorwatch
Condorwatch

I was hopeful, but meh, I need both mobility and high performance, and there are gaming laptops with pantone certified displays like the Aero lineup from Gigabyte, so I'll stick with those. and 13.5 inch? nah, I'll take a 17 inch

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Mac Man
Mac Man

Yes play a Dell latitude 5400 or something like that you can replace anything in it

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david b
david b

This has me genuinely interested in a laptop for the first time in a while. My main concern is the replaceable IO modules, and how well they'll be seated. I wouldn't want one coming out with a flash drive that i'm ejecting. Also given that I could possibly get a fairly cheap laptop with a lower end CPU and just upgrade down the line is pretty awesome sounding.

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Mr Guru
Mr Guru

Obviously the problem with releasing a schematic for a device made with all off-the-shelf parts is it can be easily cloned in China. However the schematic could be made available and the Chinese wouldn't be able to clone it as long as there's a protection device installed. This is common on arcade games because piracy is rampant in China. They could use some kind of special chip (like a microcontroller or FPGA) that is protected and can't be copied, but to ensure it is repair-friendly, make the fully programmed chip available directly from Framework for a minimum of 10 years. No one is asking for source code or firmware, just make the part available with the programming already done. After 10 years (assuming you are still in business heh!) release the firmware and source code for the chip because after that point no one is going to copy it anyway. In reality 5 years is probably more than enough.

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Mr Guru
Mr Guru

In Framework's comment saying the board is using all off-the-shelf parts..... well, that leaves it wide open to being cloned 1:1 without any legal recourse. There was a lawsuit many years ago where an Atari 2600 expansion module for the Coleco Vision was made which basically cloned an Atari 2600 1:1 and the original manufacturer tried to sue them and was denied because the clone was using all off-the-shelf parts.

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Dalton
Dalton

I so want something like this. Ideally with ARM or AMD CPU and no OS so I don't have to pay Microsoft for Windows I'm never going to use so I can wipe and install Linux.

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Gustavo Saliola
Gustavo Saliola

As an Apple user from 28 years, working steadily in design, i hope Framework and much more companies to come just sinks the portable computer Apple business. Their hardware is just moronic. In the last 10 years, Hackintosh is my way to go. Freedom to built and to repair is key. And the day its OS (Now Catalina for me) ceases to serve me, another OS will be used.

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Gordon Freeman
Gordon Freeman

Tried to enjoy the video, but the ego trip talking head in the corner is distractingly annoying.

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John Wheatcroft
John Wheatcroft

I wonder if they are looking for agents in the UK yet ......

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Davide Madera
Davide Madera

"...May be their own garage."

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Ville Valste
Ville Valste

That sounds like quite a few magnets.

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DiamonDagger
DiamonDagger

The dislikes on this video are all Apple engineers seething ..

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Alex Alfons
Alex Alfons

but how do u prevent people from stealing your laptop modules lol?

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What'a'nerd
What'a'nerd

finally a reason to buy a fucking laptop!

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FineWine 2.0
FineWine 2.0

so basically this is the FairPhone but as a laptop I hope they use open source software/firmware like LibreBoot or CoreBoot hopefully it'll be available in Asia??

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Michael Fleshman
Michael Fleshman

The Camera might be a problem if the only place to put your computer is in the bedroom or your studio apartment.

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Can Billy
Can Billy

I'd love to see a laptop with more meat, that would allow a person to build a work, game or whatever kine of laptop.

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Zachary Simmons
Zachary Simmons

Gaming laptops already have high reparability and modularity. Notebooks is a much less saturated market in terms of reparability. Although a gaming laptop with swappable gpus and ports would be nice.

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TheExileFox
TheExileFox

"getting actual work done" nope. not without proper arrow keys. And the missing Home/End/PgUp/PgDn doesn't help. I wish I could sue iFruit for coming up with this horrible trend with a GIANT right-shift key that makes the arrow keys useless.

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Munjee
Munjee

It is a bit ironic that there logo is that initially hard to come by hex screw with the hole in the middle which made repair hard

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Zyad48
Zyad48

I want to buy this. I'll probably buy this. I'm excited to have a laptop like this. First time in basically ever that I've felt that kind of way about a laptop, this is a fantastic looking product.

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NotLess Grossman
NotLess Grossman

More like this please.. of laptops that are easy to repair and good value..

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Aaron Kelly
Aaron Kelly

Looks to me like they support the right to swap parts that they sell. Parts swapping != repair. Funny, that distinction was a big deal in the 90's when computer "repair" shops would get outed for just swapping boards rather than repairing.

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Existential Selkath
Existential Selkath

This sounds great but I'm worried to how competitive they can be or how long the company will survive when they will lack any sort of return customers

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manaquri
manaquri

if anything they'll have more return customers, usually people change laptops and won't always get the same brand, but if they can just buy a new motherboard or screen, the company gets more business

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Justin Hansen
Justin Hansen

Expansion cards in laptops? Are we in 1995? So sad that so few laptops offer this.

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psal99
psal99

The big concern I'd have with something like this is the long term viability of a company this small. If you buy in and then 3-4 years down the line you need to replace a module that's specific to this model but the company no longer exists, you could be stuck searching for it on the second hand market and paying a premium for it. Great idea though.

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Johnnie Walker
Johnnie Walker

Why only one function per expansion card? Just like PCMCIA?!

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Jarosław Fedewicz
Jarosław Fedewicz

I want this laptop in a thick form factor where you can fit two rows of modules on each side. Oh, and give it a swappable/hot-swappable GPU, and I'm buying it.

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Vynzography
Vynzography

Everything made sense until i read: Will the Framework Laptop have a discrete GPU? We’re launching with 11th Gen Intel Processors with Intel Xe integrated graphics. This lets us deliver good graphics performance while keeping the system thin, lightweight, and power efficient. No. They didn't do it because integrating a discrete GPU into design would have been too hard. I wish they were honest and left out the marketing bullshit.

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Draganko123
Draganko123

My old t420 with broken display hinges and a fucked trackpad is still holding. I hope the Framework laptop is good (esp if it has a trackpoint and a good keyboard), because my t420 isn't gonna run for a couple more years. I'm definitely planning on looking into it!

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WayneSalleeTech
WayneSalleeTech

I like seeing that someone is trying to develop such a product. I hate proprietary. I hope the project goes well. It's too small for me. I'm building a laptop using a desktop motherboard. It will be big and bulky, but it will still fit on my lap.

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godw1ll99
godw1ll99

getting off to a great start, this company. good on them i hope they start a new trend. it is long over due. it was inevitable really, it was only a matter of time before companies like apple inadvertently create a new market for other entrepreneurs to take advantage of. markets that undoubtedly have far more support and potential for loyalty and leeway than apple and the like could ever hope to achieve. they relied on their monopoly and other companies following the trend they set but all it takes is one company to come along and be consumer friendly to topple the tower of greed. if framework is successful in their execution they could very easily destroy these big conglomerates and so we can expect these companies to react accordingly in a very aggressive manner.

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David
David

What would be cool is if the company see your video and contact you and ask what can we do better, we hear you.

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Iron
Iron

I bet it is going to require non-free firmware for things like the fingerprint reader, making the whole thing a joke. They use the term "open-source" instead of "free software" for a reason.

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Buntbär
Buntbär

I only buy repairable or used. With short-life Electronics I only use old or entry Level I could never spend 600€ on a device that is done if you drop it. Its 10 Years since I bought the last Laptop. Maybe Framework will make me comfortable with buying a new one.

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Xavier Zara
Xavier Zara

Let me know when there's a AMD version

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David Seo
David Seo

I have a feeling they'll create their own ecosystem. I doubt there will be a standard for these interchangeable "parts". Who else would be creating these modules other than platforms and they'll charge through the nose just because they don't have the economy of scale. I don't think this business model will be cheap to run.

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Eileen the Crow
Eileen the Crow

i hope they make a version with AMD cpu.. intel is trash and much worse on battery life nowadays

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Alex B
Alex B

I hope that framework is more able to lead an industry standard rather than repairs being exclusive to their devices and parts. Basically would be cool to have a laptop that has the configurability repairability of a PC desktop.

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Jeff Stettler
Jeff Stettler

about damn time

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Barry Ross
Barry Ross

Next time apple virtue signals against “ climate change” tell them to stop building junk!

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Barry Ross
Barry Ross

Is it that hard to build a product that will last? Edit, honest question.

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TechnoSparks
TechnoSparks

Somehow Project Ara came to mind, although it was really different than this. Hopefully this takes off

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LordOfMedusa
LordOfMedusa

Ok looks interesting, having watched one of their videos loop a few times to see if there was any hints on the points you made the display looks to be screwed behind the bezel I believe the image you saw was with a black bezel in place. The separate keyboard membrane in the top most image leads me to think the key caps will be easily swappable from the inside of the lower chassis although with the same aluminium between keys means it is likely a single aluminium piece and the assembly would need replacing if a keycap swap is not enough E.g: major layout changes. All together an interesting laptop that I will watch progress on and may consider as a replacement for my portable machine. P.S. thanks for the great videos, I have never needed component level repair but it is great to have a basic knowledge of the area. P.P.S. I didn't see the official reply from the designer, being a dummy. Its great to have both areas that are easiest to break accessible for repair (keyboard and screen)

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J F.
J F.

start reselling that "schematics or die" and i'll buy em both.

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moot toom
moot toom

It is all down to supplied chain issue. Because most of the world laptop/computer are all churned out from only a few ODM/OEM factory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_laptop_brands_and_manufacturers

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Floyd Looney
Floyd Looney

I'm looking to buy an Asus gaming laptop, probably over $1,400 after taxes, but it doesn't even have a webcam.

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Stephen Beets
Stephen Beets

This is an EXCELLENT development for right-to-repair and certainly one the industry has desperately needed since its inception. One glaring issue that has always existed with laptops is a lacking of standardization, and what I am talking about here is mainboard form factors. Since the original PC and PC-XT, motherboards for desktop machines have all been built in one or more standard sizes and shapes, like AT, Baby AT, ATX, ITX, Mini ITX, Micro ATX and Mobile ITX. For the most part, all of these have been broadly interchangeable across generations of hardware. But this is not so for laptop PCs. With laptops (and most other mobile computers), each model or model series uses its own unique shape and layout for its motherboard. It is physically impossible to swap boards from different machines between each other, even when they are from the same manufacturer. If the board in one laptop dies for any reason, you cannot take the one from another unless it is the EXACT SAME model as the one that failed. My hope is that Framework will build some sort of standardization into the motherboard and expansion modules' shapes and sizes so that no matter how large or small their laptops are in footprint, they will all use the same size and shape motherboard and that board type can be adopted as an industry standard that other companies can follow for truly user repairable and upgradeable laptop PCs, just as standards like ATX and ITX have done for desktop PCs. THAT, I would like to see happen. A great start nonetheless for Framework. :-)

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FinalManaTrigger
FinalManaTrigger

So far, I'm sold. Hopefully we can get a Ryzen configuration as well, I would prefer that over Intel.

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Charles Coulter
Charles Coulter

This is great but it won't take off in the consumer space unless it is *thin* and *pretty*

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linuxares
linuxares

So sounds like a Clevo but with repair ability in mind! I like it!

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SuperAWaC
SuperAWaC

5:04 The late 90s early 00s apple laptops had easily removeable keyboards, a couple spring latches held them on and you could hinge them right out. Made them a lot easier to work on. Apple USED to do it.

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Simon Kidd
Simon Kidd

The second graphic on their websites landing page is a short video that shows several internals including the removal of what looks like a rubber underlay behind the screen bezel where I you will see screws for what looks like the display panel.

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Lewis Anderson
Lewis Anderson

big question will be the price

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dugitup
dugitup

The new frontiers of Liberty: computer hardware/software

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Dragon101201
Dragon101201

Right to repair also should lessen the e waste so its more environmentally friendly.

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Dr. Velious
Dr. Velious

Signed up, this seems like the exact thing I need as far as portability/expandability goes.

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Brandon Upchurch
Brandon Upchurch

I had an Inspiron 15 Gaming(7567) that the keyboard failed on and I had to replace the entire palmrest assembly with the keyboard since the keyboard is riveted in, I had to remove like 20 screws from the bottom of the unit then pop apart a bunch of annoying plastic tabs to even get the palmrest off. Luckily I found a like new one on eBay and won it at auction for like $15 because a new palm rest assembly with keyboard is not cheap.

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m tosta
m tosta

Will it run Elementary OS?

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Drives11
Drives11

fuck me. I would be ALL OVER this thing if I didn't just buy my Thinkpad last year. I also REALLY wish 16:10 and taller aspect ratios made a comeback. It was extremely disappointing upgrading to 4k with 0 options for aspect ratios other than 16:9. That said, my new thinkpad is not as nice as my Dell Latitude e6410 was when it comes to repair, but it's a hell of a lot better than a lot of the other junk I've looked at. also, lenovo knows how to make a laptop keyboard.

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ninjaturtle11754
ninjaturtle11754

5:32 a riveting story

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Terry Davis
Terry Davis

But have they gotten rid of the hideously intrusive intel management engine spy machine?

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MeRock59
MeRock59

Sadly this doesn't have the nipple mouse so it will be unusable for serious customers like they're targeting.

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Space Reptile
Space Reptile

I'll stick to my T420 Upgradeable? Check Durable? Check Privacy buttons? Check Ports ports ports? Check

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Mohamed Guissé
Mohamed Guissé

Well there you go...a laptop for you Don’t buy apple then come back to complain🤷🏾‍♂️

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Resplendent Moron
Resplendent Moron

if this catches on, it'd be great to see a gaming laptop on this model. I mean, in terms of desire to upgrade regularly, gamers would be the ideal market

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Resplendent Moron
Resplendent Moron

I would like to report that chocolate syrup will also ruin a keyboard.

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Unknown monstrosity
Unknown monstrosity

There is no marketplace to look for parts cos they are still hiring developers to build mvp of said marketplace. Sadly for me, they are looking for Ruby on Rails dev, not Python :c

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