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There has been outrage at the Star Wars female Mandalorian armor with people claiming it's sexist, impractical, and even dangerous, but is it?
A GREAT follow-up video by Scholagladiatoria on the recent boob armor controversy with medieval artistic references as well as mentioning modern chest protectors: de-film.com/v-video-sQi5Sq1hoGY.html
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I now proclaim myself the patron saint of boob armor. Here's a GREAT follow-up video by Scholagladiatoria on the recent boob armor controversy with medieval artistic references as well as mentioning modern chest protectors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQi5Sq1hoGY
Vor 2 MonateEstevan Montoya
@Jeff K female body builders and wrestlers those who are athletic in the areas that would be comfortable for warfare tend to be pretty diverse in bust size if not leaning a bit on the heavy side 😉
Vor 3 TageGalileo Chiu
@mikadsu I'm just lazy to type all that
Vor 11 Tagemikadsu
@Galileo Chiu *not indestructible. CAN RESIST not hold for ever.... Of course these things doesnt make it bad, but its not god armor still.
Vor 11 TageGalileo Chiu
well Mandalorian Iron is indestructible, even resisting lightsabers.
Vor 11 Tagemikadsu
Also one other thing is the cost. You might weare shit armor but its better than nothing. So even if boob armor would suck. You might still wear it because there is no other option or what ever.
Vor 13 TageCam Price
why is this even a vid tis is jus weird tbh
Vor StundeMrFelblood
Meanwhile on Earth: Literal hundreds of female police officer's die every year, because their bulletproof vests don't accommodate their boobs properly.
Vor 3 StundenHaste
"sexist"
Vor 13 StundenFlyingSchweenies
14:27 More offended by the “heels” in the armour than the boobs
Vor 17 Stundendead memes
just my point of view but if people say that women with certain physical traits(I mean the size of chest) can't have comfort to a minimum with armor that still has fonctionnality, doesn't it apply to men as well? if some man had a physiology that put most of your fat on your stomach and/or chest, the same problem would apply. then it's no longer a problem of women with x size but a human being whose physiology doesn't fit in what is considered "proper" suit of armor. no? I mean just thinking of it on my own, the logic makes sense so why talk as if the physical size problem doesn't apply for men. if a men is really fat (not saying that big chest is fat) then same problem apply. edit: I know chest and weight isn't always related then take men with large shoulders born like this, same problem is present with the larger the sheet of armor in the front, the more likely it is to cave in if it is the same thickness. (I believe at least)
Vor 17 Stundenabhishek samuel
NGL i never even noticed the boob armor, thats how subtle it was. People need to enjoy the show, not nitpick such an insignificant detail.
Vor TagBriar Bones
I think the main thing with some of the boob armor, at least to me is that it just looks ridiculous when it's exaggerated too much. Kinda like how heels are put into a lot of female fighters designs, but realistically no woman would ever choose to wear them for fighting because of things like balance, speed, and physical pain. But I also agree that fitting in to the man's breast plate looks like an awful experience, I would definitely not be able to fit in that. I personally like the female breast plates that have the bulge above the chest but without the divot in the middle. It just seems to be the more comfortable option. Plus you have to think that all women have different breast sizes that differ by inches, and that changes over time depending on weight gain or loss. It would be easier to make the ones that don't conform so drastically, since you don't have to get the exact measurements of every female you make the armor for. Just an opinion, I think this conversation is interesting.
Vor TagEdgardo Delgado
The armor was forged to fit the Mandalorian individual, why wouldn’t it shape the body of that individual? Those were outraged by this or not understanding the lawyer in the process in which the armor is made, this is science fiction let me say that again science fiction somehow we steered away from the escape of science fiction and made it into a documentary with a light show
Vor TagJulia
I don't know if the "outrage" (singular tweet) was influenced by practicality at first. Glad to hear the discussion and the result that I would not have known. But I think the only valid argument against Mandalorian boob armor is more nuanced of "you wouldn't know she's a woman without the defining characteristic of boobs." As if boobs are the only thing that can help you identify a woman, which in turn objectifies the woman by the appearance of her breasts. Furthermore, from season 1, the Armorer's armor does not show the same definition on the chestplate, but we can still assume them to be feminine and a woman. I think the Mandalorian does it perfectly by showcasing both styles, but important to note that the style modeled after a cartoon was intended for children to be easily understood with identifiable characteristics.
Vor TagWarrandpeace
Idk if you said this in the video... but its star wars, shes barely gonna be hit by actual weapons other than blasters which her armor seems pretty effective against
Vor 2 TageNi na
When males wore metal armors in the old times it hurt them sometimes wearing that so they needed some space for their stuff so it won't hurt, the bob armor should have bobs because if it didn't the bobs would hurt 🤷.
Vor 2 Tagetarrker
So much complication it's absurd. You wanna know if boob plate is effective? Ask a female fighter about it. Like... damn. I have three sisters who all loved fighting and they hated those boob protector plates. But once they got actual armor they loved that. So I'm basically agreeing with Shad here.
Vor 2 TageBrandon Lokison
You can tell Shad gets worked up when he ends every sentence with "-Okay?"
Vor 2 TageSólus Quatro
Its so subtle that I got confused when I saw the videos thumb
Vor 2 TageAymr
Can you list the sources for all the art in the video? Such as the thumbnail art that appears frequently throughout the video?
Vor 2 TageFirst Name Last Name
This video is the perfect excuse to have a lot of breasts and mandalorian r34 art
Vor 2 TageSilas Brailey
Not to mention the Mandalorians re-forge their armor to fit them
Vor 2 TageWayward Soul
I'm absolutely mesmerized by the wall unit. From the lamp to the globe to the many tomes of knowledge...
Vor 2 TageJoy Phillip
I can think of many things you might have missed. 1. The chest pieces. Solid metal chests like in the plate are one piece, lets the blow glance away and disperses the force. Mando armor has to do these too, as well as absorb the energy of plasma from the blaster bolt or lightsaber. So, if you are right about the inertial damper (which is actually brilliant BTW) then you have weight and plasma remaining. If the beskar is absorbing the force, and remaining rigid in PLATES, rather than as a whole suit, then it makes sense for there to be individual plates attached to a bodystocking of a sort. And given that you have to reach across yourself, left to right, and vice versa, you would want the chest to have a lateral flex of some sort. Now, given that your heart is directly under the center section, you also want to protect that, so you have a third plate in the middle to accommodate that lateral compression, and still keep your heart protected. Thus, the bulge in Bo's armor on each side, with a slight caving in and then the "heart plate". It would act like the ceramic plates in modern kevlar. 2, While one interpretation of the repair and exposed circuitry is an inertial dampener, the armor he was wearing at that point wasn't beskar but was plas. It's a type of plastic reinforced with something that makes it somewhat stronger, and a lot lighter. So that circuitry you saw when he was trying to fix it would have been part of that structure, rather than of the beskar. 3. *I* believe, and this is not supported by anything other than UPG, that what we were seeing in the circuitry is actually a life support assist. The old space suits of NASA had to have hoses of water running through a skin suit under the spacesuit in order to keep the occupant from burning up. Take this to an extreme of an armor you don't get out of, along with a skinsuit the plates attach to that you also don't get out of. Stormtroopers, Mandalorians, Footsoldiers, Vader, all of them have some sort of life support component to it. We are shown in many different canon places that Stormtrooper armor is used in vacuum, and underwater. Mandalorians swim, dive and so on. Granted there's one instance where Din nearly drowns, but that's because of his failure, IMO. And also given that you have high altitude flight in those suits, there would have to be some sort of life support assist as a part of it. Also it could be processor power/memory for the onboard computers that Mandalorians use in their helmets. I can't imagine that the targeting systems we have no in Infantry helmets and calculations for weather and night vision, and low light, and additional hearing sensors for our soldiers wouldn't be part of a Mandalorian helmet. They would have to have some sort of Iron Man-esque HUD inside the helmet to compensate for that Greek slitted helmet visor design which KILLS your peripheral vision. I can even see a light kind of forcefield that seals the helmet bottom to the suit gorget for such times as unexpected change in environment, such as a spaceship blowout.
Vor 2 Tagemew umu
The mandalorian female armour looks fantastic 👌👌the only armour (still dont care what you draw, this is my opinion) I dont really care for is when the chest peice is suction cupped to the titties or when they have a boob cutout in metal armour. Just put her in thick leather or something if that's the route you're going
Vor 2 TageBenjamin Lee
And a bother reason that the mandolorian male armor doesn’t have the gap in the chest piece would be because it would require more metal and if the gap is unnecessary then why would you waist precious beaker like that
Vor 3 TageEnrique Cavazos Alonso
The circuit in the male mandalorian armor is for an energy shield, like on ships on the star wars universe
Vor 3 TageREDLEGION
Literally makes no sense the armor would feel uncomfortable if it wasn’t like that and it doesn’t matter she still looks badass
Vor 3 TageGodathan
tldr; boob armor is real stfu toxic sw fans
Vor 3 TageSergei Ivanovich Mosin
"It's honestly just people trying to get attention in my opinion" Congratulations, you just summed up pretty much every controversy in the past two decades
Vor 3 TageHushnausea King
Dud they could look at for honor and look at their armor plates and show a bulge which no one screamed about
Vor 3 TageMouthy Productions
Women: have structural anatomy Twitter Users: *"Impossible.."*
Vor 3 TageAnon Shrimp
I don't mind a slight curve on female armor. Like that's fine. HOWEVER, I really don't like the fact that the boobs are specifically being outlined in the armor. To me, it just says, "Huh....we made this female character who already has an extremely feminine look to her. BUT this still isn't enough. Viewers won't be able to tell this is a female knight unless we make sure her boobs are showing very clearly!" Edit: I also really enjoy the female Mandalorian Armor. It has that nice curve without making it obvious that, "Yes, this is a female."
Vor 4 TageMarc
Wouldn't most boobs be fairly compressed and secured by the underlayers anyways? Like a medieval sports bra. The bulging bust seems like a hypothetical(?) straight up practical result of armour design, whereas the more anatomically pronounced boob armour could've very been the result of added aestethics akin to the codpiece armours. Trading a smidge of practicality for looks. (Heck, we do that all the time everywhere in the modern day as well, look at SpaceX where they at least value aesthetics highly lul)
Vor 4 Tagewutzit
I wonder if there were any medieval knights who exaggerated the size of their cod piece so that people thought they had a huge johnson
Vor 4 TageTheSimplyJJP
The soys are stronger than ever scrounging around for anything to put on the spotlight to earn reddit karma. And it's going to get worse.
Vor 4 TageSteven Dunlap
This mans a virgin
Vor 4 Tagebluewingsprite
I've seen codpieces in the wild
Vor 4 Tagefester the jester
Men had a penis plate thing back in the crusader days
Vor 4 Tagejamie1971
Don't argue with (3rd wave) feminists, they wake up every morning deciding what they can be offended by today....a world where men spreading their legs on a train to accommodate a physical feature (just like boob armor) is considered an act of sexism, a world where air conditioning is sexist,a world where disagreeing with a female is sexist (patronizing to women) a world where natural male traits are 'toxic' and natural female traits are not valued but scorned and denied! A world were you can just wish yourself to be a woman and somehow everyone else has to pretend its true... There is no reasoning with insanity like that...
Vor 4 TageApotheosis
hey hey, video idea Dick armor impractical, sexist or dangerous?
Vor 4 TageRybu
In classical antiquity, the muscle cuirass (Latin: lorica musculata),[1] anatomical cuirass, or heroic cuirass is a type of cuirass made to fit the wearer's torso and designed to mimic an idealized male human physique.
Vor 5 Tagelam1991hahaha
There is historical female armour, from Japan, google tsuruhime’s armour, it’s basically a more hourglass version of the samurai armour
Vor 5 TageA Araujo
I have never worn armor but as a woman with breasts on the larger side I can hypothesize that that slight indent in the middle of the female mandalorian breastplate would not only be for style but comfort and fit. Anything that squisheds them into a uni-boob stretches the outside of the breast and causes extra pressure on them. Having even that little indent helps them to sit more naturally, comfortably, and by letting the armor support the breasts may allow for better padding and shock absorption underneath the breastplate.
Vor 5 TageMusic Castle
Very informative. Thank you, I was curious if women would actually wear that kind of armor. Now if only I could get information on the codpiece.
Vor 5 TageRaw.Genesis
So we know that any space craft with a hyper drive hase dampers that they dont die , we also know that the clone armor has this strange black bodysuit underneath it wich is for keeping the soldier tempert and absorbing some sort of impact so yes indeed great amrys do provided damping material for their troops (in case of the madalorian we dont know but i think if they know about it and the clone armor is meant to be like the mandalorian armor theyd use that multi functional bodysuit as well
Vor 5 TageLasse H. Gundesen
I think another point in regards to how the armour was developed. While medieval armour would have been developed to take hits. Mandolorian armour would have been designed to take blaster shots and slugs due to the fact guns exist.
Vor 6 TageOrizon
BOOBA
Vor 6 Tagenigel
I'd love to see shad's search history after this video
Vor 6 TageLebendiges Gespenst
Shad implemented the mommy Milker Mandalorian meme, he is god
Vor 6 TageGywn Emperor fearin' citizen
Mmm Shad I see you're using Kreks nsfw art. Jesus does not approve.
Vor 7 TageKaityMay_ClayDesigns
I like how your so logically minded when making these videos, you don't get crude or inappropriate.
Vor 7 TageOrin Anthony
13:28 Thats only because men are too scared of walking around in one. I think it could make a comeback in 50 years.
Vor 7 Tagelocarno24
Note that The Armourer - who was created for the Mandalorian - has armour which is pretty genderless on first glance. Is Bo-Katan's armour a bit over-the-top cartoony? Maybe? I don't think it's that bad, but regardless, yes. It's cartoony because she's a live-action version of a very stylised cartoon character, who has looked that way for over a decade. You can play tunes with her appearance but there's a limit to how much you can change it and still have the viewer instantly go 'that's Bo-Katan' - it's akin to complaining about the fact that pretty much every version of Wonder Woman is going into battle in a corset.
Vor 7 TageTacoUpgrade
Mandalorian, clone, stormtrooper, and first order armor are designed to spread out the impact throughout the entire body to turn a deadly shot into a recoverable shot.
Vor 7 TageRichard Murray
My thought when I saw the tech in the armor is that it is both inertial dampening and magnetic shielding to account for energy weapon hits.
Vor 7 TageDonald Jaramillo
Even the male Mandalorian armor has pects.
Vor 7 TageDr. Vybe
Not only does it look good its also functional
Vor 7 TageJim Choong
I didn't really hear this point, but the armour was made of beskar, or at least beskar alloy, which is metal so powerful it can deflect blaster fire, and even lightsabers (the only weapons used by infantry in the Star Wars universe) so the integrity of the armour debate can't be made, and the point of striking is rare, as almost all enemies used blasters, which can be deflected by the fact it's beskar.
Vor 7 TageIAmEvilTree
Inertial dampeners in armour, now that makes a lot of sense. Could also help to better withstand force pushes from enemy Jedi.
Vor 8 TageSyd Donovon
16:06 this is Shadiversity's D&D character, looks like a human fighter
Vor 8 TageWill Garmer
My biggest problem with Mandalorian armor has always been the poor coverage. There are pieces covering chest and back, shoulders, parts of the arms, and in some cases parts of the legs, but the separation between these pieces is a huge vulnerability. Of course, that's the classic trade-off of any kind of armor - increased mobility of less coverage vs increased protection of greater coverage. People who complain about the 'boob armor' issue clearly don't understand the literal definition of the term "form fitting". Female anatomy has a different form than male anatomy. Hence, form fitting clothing, equipment, or armor would naturally follow the shape of the female form.
Vor 9 TageBlackwater
11:06 - I cried xD Beautilful! xD
Vor 9 TageDaniel Daw
This one feels especially stupid because the armor itself isn't boob armor. It's the personal armor that is modeled to fit a woman. As in it accounts for the presence of breasts instead of ignoring them entirely because women have breasts. It's not the type of boob armor that looks like silver colored body paint perfectly molded around the breasts. It gets even dumber to complain about this because it basically pigeonholes who can play female characters in combat oriented character roles like this if you're going to cry foul any time a woman has armor that's not identical to a man's. What if an actress with large breasts wants to play a Mandalorian? You gonna tell her no she can't because your breasts are too big and we can't make an armor that will fit you without taking into account your chest size, which just so happens to be in the larger size. The final problem, and by far the funniest one, is that if you did do this, and mandated they wear male armor (because that what it is since armor was designed for and worn almost exclusively by men historically speaking), I guarantee you Anita Sarkesian would say something about it still being sexist because you're forcing women to conform to male gendered norms.
Vor 9 TageHolyknightVader999
There's also the fact that Clone Trooper/Stormtrooper armor clearly is form-fitting armor for males. It even has man-boob armor on the chestplate even though there's no practical reason for it. Between Stormtrooper boob armor and Leia's metal bikini, the Star Wars universe has had a long and proud tradition of boob armor stretching from the first ten minutes of the original film's release in theaters to today.
Vor 9 TageKolin Martz
Damnit. Now I want a 20+ minute long video of Shad just talking about schlong armour. Edit; the codpiece might be making a come back. Just look up the Blast Pelvic Protector from the US and the Pelvic Groin Protector by commonwealth forces.
Vor 10 TageMusic Castle
@Kolin Martz I thought only men wore codpieces so, as a guy I said, "Jockstraps and cups." If females need protection down there; they do make Groin Cups for women.
Vor 5 TageKolin Martz
@Music Castle joskstraps and cups won’t protect your taint.
Vor 5 TageMusic Castle
I don't know why it would make a comeback when we have jockstraps and protective cups that protect/support the area. Codpieces just seems dumb unless its for Renaissance Fairs.
Vor 5 TageKolin Martz
Why does nobody batt an eye to the fact that every clone and stormtrooper armor already have breasts? Also. I didn’t even notice Bo’s boob armour until people pointed it out in their outrage.
Vor 10 TageKolin Martz
Trust me. From friends and colleagues that have to wear ballistic protection for an extended periods of time always complain about, the more well endowed ones wish it’s possible to create ballistic vests that are more compatible with the female anatomy.
Vor 10 TageDeZeKay
Another important argument is the fact that the mandalorians carried their armors down to the next generation and the next generation then made changes according to their needs. (Probably) All Armors of Mandalorians are individualized for their wearer.
Vor 10 TageTheNacropolice
Also people need to remember that the army makes armor specific for female body types as well as male armor provided inadequate protection for them and was also far too cumbersome. Armor is made with a balance of comfort and protection. I can put someone in a full suit of steel, nothing will penetrate it, they will also be about as useful as a boulder in a battlefield: immobile, and just background scenery. I think the root of the issue is that when it comes to topics like "armor" and the like we also have acknowledge that some people in our hobby are misogynistic neckbeards who have no idea how to talk to women and are then surprised when they're single. Of course on the other side we have people who profess to be liberal and progressive, but are perpetually aghast when the female form is shown at all. In their insane logic there can be no gender specific armor or appearances and everyone has to look the same. This logic, of course, is asinine to no end and is actually sexist against women as it actively erases the fact that women are different and have different needs to men when it comes to protection.
Vor 10 Tage18 Hands
Either way you go, flat chested armor or armor with breasts people are gonna gripe because society is a bunch of whiney lil jerks. Did they ever stop and think that armor with room for your body could be more comfortable for the actor ?
Vor 10 TageHeyI'mLettuce
did someone seriously see the very non-obvious boob armour in mandalorian and genuinely get pissed off enough to start a whole debate? Sounds fucking stupid to me
Vor 11 TageBreyden Russell
Yo I know I'm a bit late to the party but I just wanted to say You said that if women were fighters more historically we would have then seen more armor crafted to their shape and whatnot. Well conveniently Mandalorian culture for a long time was combat and war, and star wars history shows a lot of female combatants. So there you go the perfect storm for them historically (in their universe) having boob armor. Just a side note, the forge master "The Armorer" in the show is female so even without history, I'm sure she'd have a preference (over male or female armor) and she'd get it cause she makes the damn stuff.
Vor 11 TageRed Dragoner
3:14 "I think it makes me look (...) slimmer" :D i thought he was gonna say "smashing"
Vor 11 TageYu Tubaru
One factor people forget is artistic flare. A cape is not always a good idea in a fight but it looks cool.
Vor 11 TageAwesome Austin
3:13 I agree! I love that armor!
Vor 11 TageGalileo Chiu
WAIT STORMTROOPERS HAVE CROTCH ARMOR!?
Vor 11 Tageleoreth
The thing that bothers me about boobs armour in kinda historical setting is that there wasn't distinct separate cups thing at that time. Separate boobs is a modern bra-related look. If you look at women in medieval times you'll see that they were wearing a tight bodices which were making their chests seem united in one or just flat. Later the stays were introduced, but the first of them did the same - made your chest flat and neat. Only in 18th century eventually were invented some sort of corsets with a cup for each boob but it was for the sake of fashion look of that time and after that they appeared from time to time. I assume, it's unlikely that hipothetical warrior woman would show on public without the essential underwear under her armour. She would wear a tight bodice or a stays which is the thing to help her carry and redistribute the weight of her breast. And in this situation there is no point of having separate cup for each boob in her armour. But I don't mind this thing in a fantasy or sci-fi setting if they are following the modern beauty standards. In fact, aknoleging that some people have boobs while designing the pieces for protection is a good thing. IRL there have been a problem for a long time with vehicles crush tests because of testing manequins has the male feachured body, and safety belts were designed to hold the body without heavy breast, so there were a lot of additional injuries among women. So, i assume, if woman wanted to have a life-providing protection she would like it to fit her body as accurate as possible and the size of her breast would mean here a lot.
Vor 12 TageIMPERIAL ROYAL GUARD
Cause it wouldnt be comfortable if it was not there, in battle, thats important
Vor 12 TageTiziano Herrera
Now the only question I have is: how do they see?
Vor 12 TageJack Crowther
Solution give all characters boob armour. Mando needs a big set of tiddies.
Vor 12 TageBrotherbear#8936
I’m genuinely curious any women in the comments who have worn a plate carrier with plates how uncomfortable are they? I have a slight gut, so with steel plates and loaded AK mags on my rig, I can feel it pressing against my stomach more than someone who is thinner. I feel like this needs to be said no I’m not fat, I have a bit of fat over a fair amount of abdominal muscle. I’m 205 lbs, but I look like I weigh 175. Sorry about that tangent, I just want to make sure the replies don’t have a reason to throw shade my way
Vor 12 TageHal Winters
well if you're flat as plywood you prob dont need it but if you got some serious warlocks bouncing around you'll probably want the armour to be able to hold them in place as well as not squish them into yourself to the point where it hurts.
Vor 12 TageLagzester
I thought it would be worth mentioning that Mandalorian armour is specifically designed to combat Jedi, therefore it would focus more on disbursing heat energy from lightsabers (and blasters) rather than protecting from heavy blows. Also, the vast majority of weapons used in the star wars universe are energy-based so lighter, more comfortable armour would be a greater priority due to the Beskar being able to protect against 90% of the heat-based weapons it comes in contact with. (sidenote: this is actually how stormtrooper armour is designed, it has similar "heat-absorbing" properties but on a lighter, less protective, plastic material)
Vor 13 TageGodlyGamer
This is like getting mad at a small person for not being able to put on clothes twice there size
Vor 13 TagePaulo Junior Lourenço
Lets end this once and for all. - The armor having a "upper bigger" protection area does not make it sexual or impractical, it still protects you from external attacks. - The armor having a Giant Cleavage is impractical because there is no metal or material to protect your breasts from anything, your skin will be exposed por any kind of attack. - The armor having a EXACTLY breast shaped is dangerous because on the center of the armor there will be cleavage following the woman shape of breasts and this part in the center it will absorb ALL the impact not redirecting the impact to external areas of the armor since its a hole causing a rupture in the armor and puncturing your skin and you will die for bloodloss. it would be impractical if her armor had a giant window to show her boobs or a exactly breast formed like in the images he shows. People must understand that Breasts are NOT a sexual Organ. both male and female have it, there is nothing wrong if a female character need a bigger upper part of armor to protect her chest it would be wrong if her armor was made ONLY for people to see her tits and not to actually protect her in battle.
Vor 13 TagePeytonTDT
People complaining the mandalorian female armor would be impractical against swords... it's almost like they use blasters instead of swords...
Vor 13 TageMysticHero
I do not know why you are making some feasibility argument when that has nothing to do with Anita Sarkeesians position. The issue is not with sexualization. The issue is that it is one sided. Women in games and media in general are very regularly sexualized while men are not. They are also often reduced to extremely simple characters that are not really independent actors (think of damsel in distress tropes) while men are generally not. This is called objectification. This is problematic as it excludes women from media that does this and nurtures some problematic attitudes in people that predominantly consume such media. To clarify this does not automatically make all media that does this horrible and it should be boycotted. It´s just something that should be pointed out and corrected. This idea that feminists hate all video games that do this is a ridiculous strawman.
Vor 13 TageMysticHero
@Mark Antill Just because something is "made to fit her body" doesn´t mean it´s not sexualized. What? Mandos or Moff Gideons outfit clearly wasn´t or at least isn´t nearly as tight and form fitting. What nonsense excuse is this? This also doesn´t change the fact that Shad is deliberately constructing and arguing against a strawman. In fact your reply has almost nothing to do with my comment. It´s also ridiculous how people are again painting this as if feminists are outraged over the show. It was just a single tweet where Anita expressed a bit of disappointment over the show perpetuating one sided sexualization.
Vor 3 TageMark Antill
What do you mean "corrected"? Are you suggesting the armour shouldn't fit their bodies? There is literally nothing to point out correct here. I watched and interview with Katee Sackoff yesterday where she described the process, they scanned her body in and made the costume to fit her. She specifics says she has "hips and breasts" that it needed to accommodate and the end result was a great fit. Yes a lot of games and fantasy are have women in ridiculous outfits to look sexy, but Anita specially commented on The Mandalorian and two characters in it, despite the fact they aren't sexualised or objectified, in fact they are both shown to be skilled and competent and withe Star Wars doesn't really do deep characterisation Bo-Katan is certainly a reasonably well developed character at least as much as any of the male supporting characters are. Its almost like Anita doesn't have and actual point here, her position doesn't have anything to do with the show or the outfits so why comment on them? Just for some controversy?
Vor 3 TageHunter Capers
I got an Ad for Raid Shadow Legends and took a whole new look at their female character models... yeah
Vor 14 TageLandon Ruddy
You look awesome with a full set Brigandine
Vor 14 TageStickfood
what are those books on his left. the nice leather ones I see Game of thrones narnia Star wars and star trek can someone tell me what are the other ones
Vor 14 TageCollin
if your breasts are too heavy for regular armor. WHY WOULD YOU WEAR REGULAR ARMOR!?
Vor 14 TageNeruba
You destroyed more arguments from the counterpart than the counterpart ever made.
Vor 14 TageJames Roberts
Imagine how good you must have it in life if your movement complains that their favorite "group" doesn't have equal rights in 2020/2021, and you not only complain about a popular STAR WARS TV shows doesn't put women on a pedestal in the very first episode (like every other Disney and new Star Wars movies do when they cookie cut their Marry Sue every time), but you also complain about the armor making space for women's boobs. This shit blows my mind and it blows my mind that people not only stand by this "feminism" and these popular feminist arguments, but rather, they also will instantly call YOU sexist if you don't agree with it 100%
Vor 14 TageJafman
I haven't watched the video yet so here's my answer: NO, It's completely normal for women suits to be like this. It's like a bra but armor.
Vor 14 Tagemichael gifford
i agree with much of what you are saying with 1 acception... there is a difference between cuirasses and a breast plates. the splint mail, brigandine , excreta often absorbed and deflected fine on its own having reduced forces from projectiles like arrows, stones, other on 2nd aka deflected strikes. however with a cuirasses it was hardened steel surface which often reflected ranged shots and some melee strikes, oppose to deflecting the strikes. where many breast armor pieces started developing deflectors around the neck guards because of the reflections cause impending injury to neck arteries face ect threw helmet cavities. where the issue of reflection vs deflection is based on the pending armor type of how it is manufactured and worn, not pending if the subject had breasts on the armors. centerian armors, spartian armors and others often had breasts on them for the male soldiers as well. even joan of arc armor had a double line cuirass (less of a breast) but still with a protective neck coilif. where areas deflecting into the armor to catch a blade or other, actually presents an element of repost, like piked vambraces. not that the element itself in armor is negative, skimpily costly to manufacture adding weight ect when not necessary. as few women fought as armored warriors, those who did used conventional armors available. where breasts (memories) actually depress when things are pressed against them. and most women in the battle field were rapped as part of ethnic cleansing orders ect. so not saying there wasnt female warriors, but that they were few. where the community that i think had the most female warriors were the vikings, where they too were often rapped by their fellow soldiers and for 100's of years as such and probably part why irish red head women are so fisty today. its that viking warrior spirit of the Valkyrie within them. but Valkyrie armors were monolitich to that of the males when they had armor that is. where only 1n6 troop had armors on average, and the only individuals to have full sets of armor were considered the richest or wealthy families which was 1/30-50 on average.
Vor 15 TageJo Jo
Now here's a Shad everyone can get along with.
Vor 15 TageA person
Welcome to the Internet
Vor 15 TageChrnc Avngr
Book armor. Or what I like to call barmor.
Vor 15 Tageqwer queti
Boobs hurt if they have too much pressure 😂 these armours are not sexist, taking it sexist is the sexist thing
Vor 15 TageMusic Castle
@qwer queti Yeah the female body deserves respect, I get that even as a guy how important that is. Everybody should be treated equally with respect but, when it comes to the anatomy/shape/size our gender differences should be acknowledged and have freedoms with it *not* try to limit those freedoms based on any outside influence.
Vor 4 Tageqwer queti
@Music Castle i know right?! The female body it’s how it is!! It has boobs as well as male don’t have. That’s just how humans hare and everyone should respect the genders, in this case, the female body
Vor 5 TageMusic Castle
Yeah I just heard that argument too 🤣 Isn't this like if on a TV Show a male character was wearing a codpiece or a jockstrap/cup or a groin protector and him saying, "Thats sexist" Like how is it sexist? We have different bodies since we have different genders. Should we make armor have boobs and protection down there then just to stop this debate? Its so ridiculous.
Vor 5 TageBailey Moore
There really was boner armor? People were going into battle with an erection? So war was the Viagra of the Middle Ages?
Vor 15 TageDraw 2Death
Hmm its allmost like women have huge clumbs of Fat on their chest wich feel uncontrolable to be pushed against your Ribs.
Vor 15 TageDunamisDylan
Lol nobody complains about the occasional mans armor with an exaggerated six pack shape.
Vor 15 TageTHESNAKE
3:13 Jesus dude you not only have great Speech skills, your also rock your fashion.
Vor 15 TageMySingingTomato
There’s also the fact that the armor was designed by a female so how can it be sexist?
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