Mad respect Ludwig. Stand your ground. Update while sick lol. Be you, King

Lol

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I respect you for being unapologetic in your opinions. I totally agree with your ideas about the content ID system. There needs to be a middle ground.

and i respect you for maining ganyu

I like your name

I can't people are blaming you, for something that was going to obviously happen. People (especially streamers) who are blaming Lugwig for predicting the obvious are either ignorant of internet history, especially YouTube's history with that Viacom lawsuit, or trying to blame someone else for their own mistakes. Completely disappointed with these people.

The zoomers were probably like in 4th grade actually doing things outside when the last adpocalypse happened vs now being at home in middle/high school always watching influencers and then wondering why they have social anxiety lol

@KingR098 the same thing happened with music not to long ago

@KingR098 You do know zoomers started in late 90s right?

what streamers are calling out lud? /srs

@L. Bakker thank you Mr. Pedantic, next you're going to say Atrioc isn't actually a boomer lmao. no shit, people refer to anyone over 30 a boomer and like anyone under 18 a zoomer nowadays on the internet I wasn't being literal.

Honestly shocked at how people are blaming Ludwig for their reaction streams. They know full well that what their doing but instead of understanding the consequences of their actions they use Lud as a scapegoat because he talked about it before.

his friends are probably just joking that Lud caused this, it was inevitable that companies would start enforcing their copyright

None of the streamers are blaming him it’s always just fans lol

@Xolo and then their stans takes things too seriously

@JaylaSuburbs They aren't blaming him but saying that he snitched insinuates that it wouldn't happen without him because nobody would notice the biggest streamer on twitch watching copywritten shows on the main page on twitch which is ridiculous. Their stans will go after Ludwig and blame him for everything that happens where the people doing that shit are the only ones to blame, not someone who asked them to chill and not be so brazen with it.

@JaylaSuburbs hasan seemed genuinely mad lol

People are always going to blame you for your opinion, especially when its not in line with what they want. Whether or not your friends knew it was a possible occurrence, their fans will come for you when they get the scent that you may have dissed "THEIR" streamer. Literally, this "my streamer" thing. You can sit here and decide not to do creative content because people might blame you but honestly that's in the same vein as not failing your children because it would hurt their feelings. They need the lesson. No one has power over someone they watch. No amount of money says you can control "your" streamer OR their friends. Much love Ludwig

exactly. it’s funny because when he made that video about the hot tub meta, amouranth and Indiefox both got banned right after. i think Lud’s videos actually have pull lol

@David He doesn't have that much pull. People aren't watching him with a finger above the "ban x trend" button. He calls it like he sees it, he's just not against putting it up in some attempt to help without being the "x is cancelled" stigma.

@Shiggles yeah i’m not “blaming” ludwig, but i think there’s a chance that he did play a part in it happening as quickly as it did, which is okay

@David Then it sounds like you're putting "some" of the "blame" on Ludwig. I just disagree.

I would think they would be more aware of what's happening on twitch then how a YouTubers video calls it out

Seeing the writing on the wall and speaking up about it to warn the wider streaming community isn't being a narc. It's just being insightful and mature. This is good stuff, Lud. Don't back down.

im so proud of him finally showing every other streamer who's boss

HELLO!!! I want to spend time with celebrities. Just kidding. GAGAGAGAGA! I only want to spend time with my two girlfriends and record videos for YouTube with the 3 of us. OH YEAH. Don't hate me for living the best life, dear o

I love ur montages

@AxxL what???

@Or3o :0 This AxxL dude just randomly appears in comment sections advertising his channel in the weirdest comments ever, to get attention I assume.

@AxxL oh, gross…it’s you.

Short and sweet, it absolutely isn’t Ludwig’s fault. Anyone who did the infringement is 100% responsible for what they did, and do deserve punishment.

this is exactly why ludwig is and has been a good creator. Having actual views and defending them bc they are right and not giving in to people blaming him for something he didn’t cause. good on you.

Openly breaking and push it to the max is just horrible for everyone else. Rules get tightend, because people openly break laws and there are no actions. So people get worse and worse. The problem lies with the streamers that abuse the system to the max just to see when it's enough. And it could have already been much worse with copyright claims. It is just a matter of time, if things don't change.

this is such a good take

very good take

@Doctor Deagle b. CD

This is a terrible take. You are basically saying breaking the rules is fine just dont break them too much or the rules get tighter. if everyone is breaking or bending the rules then the rules are the problem.

@Jake Nicholson the rules aren't the problem if you're literally stealing the content of a corporation and they're enforcing their rights to something of theirs you're making money off with no benefit to them

I'm honestly surprised how few other people have said that they expect Twitch to implement a live Content ID system like YouTube, like Charlie in his video for example said he didn't think that's what would happen. I've always felt like that was not only inevitable, but at this point probably the best case scenario aside from an impossible "nobody gets in trouble and then everyone clapped" situation

I think what Charlie mean is the content ID system will be implemented on Twitch if Twitch streamer keep doing that. And unlike Youtube, Twitch cannot say they can't control those people who streaming those stuff. Edit: what i love from Charlie's take is, almost all Twitch streamer panicking when their stream and VOD got deleted because copyrighted music, but they also do stuff that will make Twitch go back to that path.

HE FINALLY CHANGED THE DESCRIPTION LINK WE DID IT

What?

@Saiko Banters it used to link to his twitch till yesterday lol

lol

lol

Lud if you see this you should change the top link to the extension download

Proud of you for using your voice to inform, help and give warning to those who are trying to build a good creator career. Those who get banned will learn it was their own actions that did it. 👌🏼

You're a smart guy Lud. I never watched streamers before, but when I discovered you, you became the only one I cared to watch. You show more than just a streaming persona and drop bits of the real you, insight and wisdom that's interesting as well as the fun content. You're right about the copyright claiming issue. It's bad on YouTube, and you're only trying to wave a flag, sound the alarms to your fellow streamers about the reality of the other side of the fence where copyright claiming is big league. So, if they don't appreciate your efforts to warn them, then don't mind it any more than they care to listen and understand. You can't help them all. Also, if you go back to twitch after youtube, yet again, you'll be the only streamer I watch on that platform 😂

Everytime that Ludwig makes a take in most twitch issues. He gets someone ban. He's too powerful.

Preach it lud, play stupid games win stupid prizes. Just because you can abuse a system for your gain doesnt mean you should!

I'm never in the loop with current Media Issues but this was very well made for informing those like me. Thanks Lud, Much Love!

I seriously have mad respect for Ludwig making content while sick with COVID. It's an important topic to touch on and is extremely important for everyone who wants to stream or watch streams moving forward. Twitch has been less intense that YT in implementing copyright systems and unfortunately the leniency won't last forever. Pretty rock solid vid.

This is my favorite Ludwig channel/content. Just real talk straight to the camera, not a lot added to make it "interesting" (because it already is)

Not the sad aang right now lmaooo

@Zeagoonbag It's been my picture for over a year :P

@deep_cuts i assumed so, still funny as fuck to scroll onto lmao

nah man we love you either way, it doesnt matter if people see you as the antagonist as long as your fans see you as a great guy, we love you either way

I respect you and your message man. Best of luck in the coming days.

This honestly should’ve happened a lot earlier, they cannot blame Ludwig for what the top streamers on twitch who are always on the front page, with thousands of viewers do. This honestly should take down some of their egos, let’s be honest they really thought they were hiding it well by inverting the show, having dub on and naming it backwards. With the amount of viewers they had watching they should’ve been scared of getting sued, plus if your gonna watch anime, at least do actual anime from some Asian country, (not just japan since there have been some fire Chinese animations recently) like if you were to watch animes from Japan and did the name flipping and shit, no one would’ve been caught, but they were watching master chief, the last air bender, watching American shows on an American website. Like if they watched some random shit from Japan and had an English romanization of the title they could probably watch forever without getting caught I’m definitely surprised toast wasn’t banned first, Naruto is probably the most recognized anime in America

The big streamers who started this will never stop unless they see meaningful consequences for their actions. IMO unless they see at minimum a 1-month ban, they'll never stop doing this shit and making it worse for smaller creators.

I think Avatar was the first one flagged because it’s made by an American production company and owned by Nickolodeon - Toast and Ludwig were talking about it during bro vs bro the other day.

@Kralysk or much much worse, some company takes up civil lawsuit action against them. All the top streamers will collectively shit their pants if one of these corporations decide to take just one of them to court, which they every legal right to do so. They'd be especially fucked bc they'd have zero defense; what they did is literally public, accessible, and they cannot deny doing it.

Lud it sucks that you’re getting so much undeserved hate and being used as a scape goat but good job not letting it get to you

I'm so glad you're talking about this and I'm shocked that people on twitch haven't realized this already. When I used to stream casually for friends, I remember someone coming into my chat, saying that I should play music on stream and asking why I wasn't. I told them because I don't have the copyright to any music, and I could see this being a big deal for twitch because how much copyright wasn't respected. And then a couple months later, XQC was banned for playing copyrighted music. And I thought that would've been the moment people realized. But it wasn't. I'm hoping this will be, because there's a lot of really great content creators on twitch, but they're getting lazy and I'm worried that they'll be in for a really rude awakening once big companies fully realize what's happening and take action against them. Also react content has always been weird for me. I've always seen it as copyright infringement because most of it is. When the series finale of gravity falls came out, I wasn't able to watch it, so I watched a reaction channel. The video started with the guy complaing that Disney was wrongfully taking his videos down, but then he just sat there, didn't say a word. About halfway through I forgot I was even watching a reaction channel because I just didn't notice him. The only thing that gave it away was that some words were backwards. Before poki's ban, I saw a lot of people complaing that people like poki would pause too much while reacting, which while it might not be true, to any outside looks like that the viewers are only there to watch the copyrighted material.

Videos like this is the main reason why I like Ludwig. He's probably the most honest creator I've seen and he's kinda funny ( he's secretly a weeb tho) can't stroke him to hard

I’m convinced by you Ludwig. This is great advice for streamers large and small. Never take the nice things we have on Twitch for granted.

I'm trying to take Lud seriously, but its hard when his ass is one ascot away from being Fred from Scooby-Doo.

Now that you mention it, had to do a side-by-side. Hopefully, nobody links him to an actual costume, his hair is almost on point as is.

It _would_ mean that he has a deep, extensive knowledge of traps, so he obviously understands what the content creators are walking into.

Big respect for just calmly re-explaining the whole situation. I would have been so whinny and start fucking slurring and tell these goddam nuthead that i was just trying to make concern of the situation before it have gone south bound and never returning...

Mad respect Ludwig.Streamers always complain about copyright but then turn alround to watch entire shows on stream.Its really hypocritical and while the Copyright claims can get out of hand at times,these are instances where they DESERVE to get copyrighted.

Honestly I just love how much Ludwig cares for the streaming landscape, if he was mad or jealous he’d word it some other way, and he did a video so he just cares for all of us and that’s something you barely get 💪🏽

Ludwig, do not budge. I believe you are 100% correct in your stance. As a big streamer yourself, you should be even more pushy in case of this whole ordeal. Some streamers are such a bunch of privileged pricks. They believe they can get away with everything. Watching whole movies/series and streaming it online without purchasing the rights to do so is against the law. It violates an another person's rights, the rights owner (usually a company tho), that's even more important. They are stealing from them. If they want to do it, PURCHASE THE RIGHTS to do so, just like the TV channels do. If people were not stealing to begin with, I bet a different solution could've been found, more humane in particular fair use cases. Someone should smack some reason into those empty heads of theirs. This is mostly why I don't watch streamers live, especially on twitch. A bunch of self-serving, usually uneducated pricks with egos inflated by a vast number of fanboys, that rarely seem to notice their flaws and wrongdoings.

I understand he is your friend and that’s absolutely valid. It was just eye opening to me when Toast saw Poki was banned and his initial response was “I just sorta hoped it wasn’t one of my friends”. This may be me reading between the lines of something not there. But I took this as “I hoped Twitch would stop smaller creators doing it instead of me and my friends because we get the views”. I think everyone not just Twitch has lost their morality in holding others accountable, which I get, it’s a crazy world that doesn’t reward community. But yeah. I’m glad you stood your ground even if it ruffles a few feathers.

completely agree, that really rubs me the wrong way

To be fair, Poki is also part of OTV. Like, they lived at OTV house together. I don’t think he would’ve said that if it was XQC or Hassan or someone else. They all know the bans are coming. It’s just a matter of who it’s going to be before there’s a live detection system

odd way of twisting his words. even if that happened, there would be some sort of backlash whether its smaller or larger streamers lol and im sure at least toast is aware of that. definitely a stretch

I don't even watch the guy and wow you're really reaching here.

Way to handle the situation gracefully. You stated your opinion amd stand behind your beliefs. Dont cower and retract. I know you play a dumb character somwtimes but all your fans know that you are one of the more intelligent creators out there. Keep that 👑 high King

It feels really irresponsible and selfish of streamers to say that a copyright strike won't affect them and it doesn't matter, when this will have an effect on smaller creators, the viewers and the platforms as a whole. Still, thanks for standing your grounds, it really sucks that people are blaming you for this

I feel like with how big reacting to TV shows was getting, it was inevitable that this situation would happen. Twitch has had copyright issues in the past and streamers getting banned and striked was inevitable. What's worse is that there is no perfect solution that pleases streamers, viewers, AND companies. But Ludwig being blamed for these streamers having action taken against them is just dumb, they put themselves in a risky scenario reacting to these videos, and it was to be expected that sooner or later something was going to happen with it. We saw the same thing play out with the hot tub meta, it was well known and it was something that was eventually something happened to those streamers as well. Ludwig being one of the only people actively calling it out when reacting was getting big might have influenced somewhat, but that seems unlikely. I don't necessarily think that he's all that much bigger than some of these streamers actively reacting. It just seems like he came in right before action was taken that made him the scapegoat for these viewers who want to blame someone for their favorite streamers getting in trouble.

Ludwig left twitch and the whole platform is going to shit. Just goes to show that he really is one of the most genuine and kind hearted people on the internet. You can tell he feels bad for talking about people he considers friends but he has to otherwise it'll bite all his friends in the ass. Lud you shouldn't have to worry about what people are going to say about you right now, you see the dark path we all see twitch going down and you're calling what you see. Keep up the good work ludwig you're doing the right thing no matter what people say

He's not trying to hurt other creators or jealous that he doesn't get to make money off of reacting like the other creators. He really is genuinely thinking about what can realistically happen if this trend continues. Yes, he cannot do it even if he wanted to right now, so people might think that he's salty. It's just that someone needed to step out of that bubble to have an outside perspective of what's going on, he did that.

i watch like 2 people on twitch anymore and neither of them got into watching TV on stream so it's been very surreal to experience this entirely via ludwig's responses to what's happening lol i will say though, i think the vod experience is fine, the ludwig vods channel is legit the best vods channel i know of

Same and then I open YouTube and it's 5 different masterchef react videos lmao

Wow lud showed them how to do it again. Watch people still call him jealous while helping them do it as safe as possible AGAIN

I dont see how anyone is blaming you for this. They knew this would what to them eventually they just didnt know when though. Like you cant play copyright music, you would think they shouldnt be watching tv shows/movies either. Im glad you made a video about it. I stand by you 100% ludwig!

LMAO so they are blaming Ludwig for something that is their own fault? Actions have consequences as Ludwig has always said. But it's not his fault that they watched copyrighted material.

It's usually just their fans blaming Ludwig because a lot of them have zero understanding of the world.

Okay, objectively speaking, the video was tame and wasn't calling anyone in specific out, the creators involved knew they were playing with fire. You cant play stupid games and get mad when you win stupid prizes.

Ludwig always has a great, intelligent take on issues to do with streaming. I always find myself well informed about things that are going on.

In my opinion I salute Lud for bringing attention to it. I want streamers to not watch these shows cause I enjoy normal streams more than watching a show :)

Ludwig is literally the "Why are you Booing me? Im right" meme in real life.

I love the fact that Ludwig pauses tiktok time and shares stories... Cause his storytelling is amazing

I remember the game stuff being a big deal for lets players on youtube, since alot of games that were the subject of lets plays were story heavy so watching someone play through the story almost removes the value of buying the game yourself since you're getting 80% of the experience for free watching someone else play through. Game devs weren't super happy about that since sure some might get interest and buy the game themselves to play but alot were watching it all the way through and not looking to pay a cent to the actual game developers cause why pay 60 bucks for a game you saw the entire story for just to 'support' since theres little value to play through what you watched, certainly not a 60 dollar price tag worth, so they were effectively losing them customers. Youtubes copyright claim system is extremely abused, pewds had his own original song copy claimed by a group saying they were claiming it on his behalf and he couldn't even dispute it, despite them having no affiliation with the group, mind you its the original song on his own channel, hes just losing the money to some random group for his 100% own creative work. But for twitch moistcritical also made a video on this the streamers are being irresponsible, poking the bear which could have real bad repercussions with it coming in a more extreme form then what was originally planned. Cause it could turn into the death of react andys with youtube or any other video outlet being off the table for stream, which is a reality I don't think most channels can live through since most big streamers fill gaps with youtube react content, now you get to sit there trying to make awkward conversation with chat while you sit in a queue, just chatting streams would fall apart.

I like how Ludwig simply pointed the obvious and now is being accused of the repercussion XD It would have happen no matter what.

I love how Ludwig talk about what happens in the streaming and content creations world and he knows so more than all of us

Wouldn't worry man, if they only get banned that would be a gift. You weren't the only one to call it out

This is the most BASED take. Chadwig was spitting truths. Especially when he calls out the creators.

Serious Ludwig hits so much harder because he's usually acting like a doofus clown for content on stream.

@🌟 Wander the Nomad that's my streamer 😭

I have enjoyed these copyright discussions over the years from many creators over many periods of times. Sadly I predict less than year or bit over a year that Twitch got before it gets bad. I hope one day copyright gets solved in these platforms, but the future will decide what can be and what can happen.

For this current issue, I'd say that a lot of twitch streamers watching master chef without adding anything were straight up stealing content. However DMCA was written by boomers in 1998. The internet as we know it didn't even exist back then. People and companies that abuse DMCA should be held legally and financially liable for falsely claiming content that is fair use. Also industries need to realize that having reasonably priced accessible licenses for content creators is a good thing. Most gaming companies (sans Nintendo) are now wise to the fact that content creators are great for publicity and revenue for their products in the long run but other industries still seem ignorant to the fact (ie. tiktok song trends boosting spotify numbers or Toei taking down Totally Not Mark).

You and Toast are both trying to get "blamed" for the bans 😂 and I think that's great because there is NO solid laws or rules about copyright (on twitch). It'd be nice to see what happens!

Its a little silly that anyone would try to blame another creator for calling attention to them streaming a tv show. Watching a tv show on stream is objectively a bad move, and they had to know this was coming considering the people getting banned aren't 10 viewer andys.

We have been through this for over a decade now, is streamers want to do this they need to actually learn what constitutes fair use and then use some of their big money to fight the lawsuits

what a great dude this man is

This is some grade-A internet journalism man, I really appreciate the level headed takes.

Your take was real and people didn't like that. Any streamer that blames you is just a child whining because they got caught being naughty.

The biggest problem with twitch ‘react’ content is that the vast majority of the people doing it are not creating anything new. Reaction videos are generally protected under fair use when they’re a necessary portion of a new work that serves the public interest. I produce a react series on another channel where I get to dispute pretty much every episode because we use clips from really big shows or movies, but it’s protected because the copyrighted material is used as examples for educational purposes. Same way movie reviewers can use movie clips, it’s necessary for their criticism and commentary to be able to use those clips, but the end result is a recognizably different work. Meanwhile, most streamers are not doing this, they’re using it as a lazy crutch to fill time during streams and make money with content produced by other people. That’s straight up infringement. You can remove the streamer’s webcam and the nature of the stream doesn’t change. Going into XQC ‘reacting’ to kitchen nightmares and his fucking chair is empty is not a reaction video, it’s lazy content theft. Big streamers know this, and they’re mad at Ludwig that they can’t milk this for as long as they wanted to.

It's crazy to me how in the form of a video or stream, Ludwig is one of the most organized and articulate creators, but he can't type out a text

I’m a massive hasanabi head but you’re right. Lots of respect and hope you’re recovering okay.

seems like Lud is the only content creator who is actually aware that this is what every other media industry goes through. There is a reason why we haven't seen a simpsons cameo on spongebob (might have happened idk) Likelyhood is that streamers will ignore this vid but good on you for being mindful

not just lud. Charlie, who already realizes this, and Toast, who set out to push it to the limit to bring attention to it, both realize this goes on and want to bring attention to it, albeit in 3 different ways

I want all the reacting steamers to look back on this video when it inevitably happens and reflect.

He’s not to blame for ‘telling on people’. Streamers actively say that they know they are poking the bear

It doesn't matter if Twitch makes a content ID system. As Lud said in the video, the companies themselves are working on live ID systems. Those will mostly be platform agnostic. As he also mentioned YT pays billions in false copyright claims. There is big money in them stealing from streamer and other content creators. Wage theft is currently by far the largest form of theft in this county and it looks like false copyright claims is coming up fast.

Devin Nash's video on this subject is absolutely brilliant. It gets really heated and the possibilities for a huge shit-show, not only for Twitch streamers, but also for Twitch as a company are absolutely wild. I think people are blissfully unaware of the ramifications of copyright law - and there could be a culling of intense proportions in the coming months if these React Andy's aren't more careful. Appreciate you calling out this lazy content, as well as taking the bullet for the ignorant streamers and their even more ignorant audiences. The whole "jealousy" argument is just so childish and willfully immature. Don't let 'em get you down, king! 👑

They can be glad we live in a world where copyright holders usually don't sue people anymore, because it takes too much time and money.

Music and videos within a video should be a separate data stream. This way you could mute only the music that infringes on copyright or easily replace background music with something else. That obviously doesn't work for the example of irl streams where music is recorded by the same mic the streamer uses to speak into, but it would work for 99% of all streams and youtube videos.

It was bound to happen idk why people are so surprised over this, yeah it sucks certain streamers aren’t going to be able to react to things they usually do, but this will make streamers now really think outside the box

I think what people forget is that there are families and creators behind those shows. From the riggers for the lighting, to the touchup artists in animated shows, to the marketing managers, to the poor secretary or stage hand running their asses off trying to make sure the whole production team still gets a decent meal when things get overwhelming. In shows that have completed, the artists, who often worked long, long hours to get a single scene completed, are still receiving royalties. If you like what you're watching, it's important to remember, when there's no money going back to these copyrighted materials, those are the people who are really hurt. Not the big companies that still make millions off of merchandising, commercials, and food/drink partnerships, but the sometimes forgotten people who help bring these productions to life. I do agree with you and Tom Scott, though- when it's something in the background, when it is truly transformative, when something clearly isn't the center of attention in a video (such as the wedding song example), the system is broken. I never, NEVER stream without making sure the music is copyright-free. I have sent copious amounts of friends awesome, copyright free music, and I've used a Humble Bundle to purchase a 200-piece library of CRF music and sounds. I love the concept of reaction channels, but I think there is also a limit for that, as well. Not enough people are actually GOOD act reacting, anyway, and if that's all you can really do, then is it really talent you're bringing to the table or are you making money off of someone else's hard work? I'm in a split mind about this (there are some AMAZING creators out there who have made incredible careers from being reaction channels, but it's because they, themselves, are interesting and entertaining, even without the video they're reacting to). I always try to play devil's advocate because hate mobs happen so often that they forget that there are people who are hurt that the overaching issue doesn't allow them to see and the people in the background get trampled in the fray. Not everything can be clear-cut and this is an example of that.

It's good to see he is fine after getting covid

Well yeah lol

He said the worst of the symptoms have already passed. He's double vaxxed too, he'll be fine

Excited to hear that there’s potentially more online lore videos coming up and it wasn’t just a one time thing.

Thinking that Twitch wasn't aware and only found out after Ludwig's vid is laughable

I was baked watching this and felt like me and Ludwig were chilling then I came back to reality. That was deep bro

I hope the streamers get banned, because man, when they come back after their suspension I know it will be funny and usually making fun of the company that banned them is great content. I usually don’t watch pokimane but I’ll watch a bit of her return stream because I think it’ll be entertaining

lud, honestly your probably at an advantage here. you are having to learn what does and doesn't fly not with the strict copyright rules of YouTube now, so by the time twitch has implemented those rules probably a little different but still strict i imagine) you will have already gotten used to it. hell you might have some tips for twitch streamers lol. id be cool if there was a website or app that streamers could use that would allow you to watch copyright content with ads. it could connect to the stream and process the number of people watching as actual viewers of the copyright content, and maybe take a small percentage out for bots and such. then the ads that play over the vid would pay the copyright content creators the amount they would have payed if that many people had actually watched the vid on there own. maybe code in a system that allows certain ads to only play for streams with smaller viewership so they can have an idea of how much they will be paying rather then suddenly having to pay for 50,000 streams on their ad. this lets the streamers watch what they want and have fun and the original content creators get paid. idk I'm spit ballin here lol wish i knew how to make that happen... it would take a lot of reaching out to companies and stuff. maybe advertise it as a new way to make money for the movies/tv show/ anime creator. you know, make them come to you or whatever. idk

Thatd be incredibly difficult to setup but a pretty cool idea i havent heard before.

There should be a system that YouTube or or twitch pays these companies a certain percentage percentage each year to use the copyrighted videos and be ok.

Just imagine a world where you don't have to be stressed out about playing your favorite music on stream, or even watching whole damn netflix show with your viewers. I really think that there is golden mean somewhere and I hope it will be found quick. It's just insane amount of copium though to shift blame from your favorite streamer to person that warned about consequences

Fuck this whole outdated copyright system ✌️

Well put Lud. I like these new style of videos on this channel. Kind of shows a new side of you, and it’s very interesting.

I always see people calling Ludwig‘s audiences children, but I find it really interesting that he actually has one of the more mature audiences on Twitch/ YouTube. Like when was the last time you’ve seen a Ludwig fan attack somebody for saying something about him?

I think it's crazy to think worst case scenario is a DMCA notice/twitch ban. Worst case scenario is massive lawsuits against individual creators that the production companies would absolutely win, with 100+ charges for every individual infraction all at once.

very good video, and exellent points. i can't belive some people say its your fault pokimane got banned or hasan got a strike

I feel like there is a very easy solution to this. Well maybe not really easy, but if youtube could just provide a service to "watch with friends" so that you essentially have each individual account counting towards a view and watch time on the video then there shouldnt be any problems. The streamer wouldnt be broadcasting the show that they are watching, rather it would be viewed by multiple people just at a syncd time. One person gets master control and can pause the video for everyone else. Anyone can pause their own video and return to the "live" time when they want. Idk, its kind of like what Michael Reeves wanted for Spotify but for youtube. The entire issue around copyright claims is broadcasting a video to 30,000 people while the creator only gets a single view and watch time for it thus they dont get paid for those people. You could even set it up so that you have to pay a small fee to use the service and people would probably pay for it.

Ludwig: I don't want to be blamed for it all Also Ludwig: *titles video "I got Pokimane banned..."*

The fact that streamers are even complaining about copyright when reacting is insane to me. It's different if they wouldn't get paid for it. But when this is your profession, you have to look at it in the context of practicing your profession. And in that context, getting paid for someone else's stuff wouldn't fly anywhere else.

It would actually be hilarious if these ceo type were actually watching Ludwig for tips on how to enforce copyright laws

I love how Lud says he was a bad twitch reactor because he would pause and actually be transformative instead of just sitting in silence and letting it play

this is why i really appreciate lud as a streamer bc a lot of ppl demand/expect/ask that these personalities hold each other accountable/call things out that are wrong but given the hate lud is getting its proof that no one wants real accountability they want to cancel ppl when it benefits them. Bc the masses benefit off of watching these streams they dont want to be caught...but these literally fall under copyright LAWS and if you dont want your favorite streamer to get banned or affected by these laws then you wouldnt encourage the behavior. Obviously, there is a lot more nuance to these situations and by no means am i different from anyone else but i think lud calling attention to it is completely valid

also things like teleparty exist granted you cant moderate the chat but at the very least you get the experience of watching something with your favorite streamer which i guess is the appeal of this whole thing. what i hate to see is that big streamers are so hellbent on getting their way that their platforms become disingenuous. one reason i love masayoshi is bc john found a way to listen to music with his chat w/o it being DMCA. where everyone is listening to the same song at the same time but from their own computer and its effective. there are always legal ways to do something, with how big these streamers are its part of their responsibility to do the research

FYI Toast said in that stream absolutely do not blame Ludwig.

Yeah, it's just their fans doing that.

I feel bad for all the people who will have to deal with the pokimane simps

I think we can settle for an even middle ground, boss baby watches Ludwig

It ridiculous that anyone would blame you for their own actions.

The hero we didnt know we needed

Tell me why Ludwig looks like he’s ready to solve mysteries and wear an orange scarf☠️

Hope in the nearest feature we see companies reaching out to streaming website such as twitch to make deals that allow content creators too react too. I personally believe there is much potential and good businesses to go for here. I kidding you not, I knew nothing bout master chef until i watched few streamers watched it - been hooked ever since.

Good take. I know a lot of small streamers that will definitely be affected by this, especially with things like ylyl which are helped get some of the top dogs to where they are now, that will definitely make growing as a streamer much more difficult without connections to bigger streamers or insane quality content which even then can be overlooked.

Imagine calling yourself a creator when you create nothing. These people should be called reactors.

some people really arent recognizing how often ludwig's been calling out shitty functions on both twitch And youtube. man wants whats best for the creators and fans, and just happens to know a fair bit about the inner workings than us normies

Ludwig being blamed for it is so ridiculous, they aren't a Russian 10 viewer stream, they are the biggest streamers and are one the main page so you can't say it's him "snitching" lol. It's their fault for stepping over the line, not him asking them to chill so they won't get everyone in trouble

While I agree 100% with you and streamers having to do it. Maybe it was the fact as soon as it happened you said in hasan's chat, "im coming for you next. hahaha" got a few people upset lmao