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While I don't enjoy glee I think the whole thing is almost a satire about that kind of culture, it's like saying the characters in its always sunny are problematic, thats the point

congrats eddy you have successfully made me feel both attacked and deeply self-loathsome for watching this show in 20 minutes. excellent video

WILL STETSON???

Especially after watching every season*…

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This comment is wonderful

No, I think you're mistaken actually. You already loathed yourself, that's definitely not new. :)

This video is amazing HAHA- I love your editing and storytelling style. My girlfriend had us watch glee over quarantine as well, and one thing that helped me get through all of it was her being like “Now remember babe. This is a satire.” constantly before and throughout the show LMAO. We never could finish the show because that level of secondhand embarrassment is tough to binge all at once, but knowing these wild things are intentional and making fun of similar shows and depiction of that culture is hilarious and made me at least respect it…kinda

your vids are great dude

I say this all the time but people are dense. GLEE. IS. A. SATIRE

fam i love your content. definitely didn't expect to catch you here.

The pervert teacher not being disgraced is sadly accurate, my high school math literally got caught sexting a student and he went on to go teach at a middle school 10 miles away

@Brandy Anderson Me reading your comment: "Oh well, that's fucked up but at least he isn't a pred-... God damn it, he might be." - The amount of people who've had/heard of pedo teachers in these comments makes me lose even more faith in humanity.

While in high school I had a teacher who was growing marijuana and selling it to students. It was discovered because he was going through a divorce and his wife reported him. And he go busted with it in his car of school grounds. The reason for the divorce was his cheating (rumored to be a student).

I swear everyone I know has a predator teacher story. Like holy shit this should not be as common as it is

My world.history teacher actually *dated multiple* students and it was well known and *joked* about. 10 years later he is still working there

My school district fired at least 1 teacher every year for getting involved with students, from middleschool to hs. And I had 3 that should have gotten fired(if only I knew to report comments)

You can tell that Glee started off as a really smart black comedy, but popularity and studio pressure to go more broad twisted it until it actually became an accidental parody of itself instead of the genre tropes and fans in later seasons.

Yeah, I loved the pilot. I thought it was some brilliant comedy, but then it quickly became just a parody of itself and Sue quickly became the only remnant of the show as it once was, while being surrounded by self important teen melodrama. The comedy just... Absolutely disappeared by the second half of the first season

I haven't seen the show, but based on what I've seen other media go through and what Eddie said, I can very easily believe this explanation.

The fact that you're still in what's largely considered the GOOD part of glee says a lot about what this show is

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I remember even as a kid thinking these characters were clearly intentionally written as bad people for humour. It helps my mom literally explained it to me.

@e im really confused, i cant understand if it is supposed to be bad or if it is just bad

I always thought it was intentionally bad as well

Burback isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed

It's surreal to me that people take this seriously now.

I still think the show was intended to be exactly that 😁

I am so glad that you mentioned how awful Rachel is. As someone who has watched the entire show, I couldn't stand her for 90% of it.

My toxic trait is that I love Lea Michelle😬

@Corinne K SO TRUE

@Xavier Bernard blows my mind a little. The only good part of her character was Idina as her mom.

@Corinne K apparently tons of people liked her, loved her even.

Everyone didn't hate her!? I thought that was the entire point of her character.

More Glee content please. I relish in the terrible, but my husband will only watch it with me if there is a good analysis video waiting for him to watch at the end of it. 🥺pretty please

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@Degen Impact y

Haha. We did start watching it. He was enjoying it in a cringe kind of way. Now it’s off Netflix and I’m not sure where to watch it

Change your husband pls.

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It definitely hasn’t aged well, but glee was pivotal to me realizing I was a lesbian. There’s something to be said for how every lgbt character in the show had an awkward, messy coming out, because that’s how it is irl. It was comforting to know that I wasn’t alone in not knowing how to word things in a way that made sense.

@phenominiallmusic well then its a bad satire because im not laughing.

@phenominiallmusic if most of your audience doesn't realize it's a satire, what's the obligation to inform them thereafter? Also how does this relate to the coming out OP was referring to?

Glee is a satire. The ppl saying it hasn't aged well don't get that

My coming out was pretty non-eventful. I brought home a girl and at some point mentioned dating her and nobody said anything about it. My older sister didn't come out until last year though because she was afraid of the social consequences. Turns out half my family is homophobic lmao 🥲

I would love to see more Glee episode reviews!

Yes me too!

YES! PLEASE! Do reviews of the finales!

I second that!

Same , this was great

@Co theturtle I think it just disappears for me my bad

I felt like the first season was meant to be darkly humorous—like Election with Reese Witherspoon & Matthew Broderick. However, clearly people missed the purposely dark humor, made it super popular (because singing with high school stereotypes always works), and became earnestly progressive in problematic ways.

election was specifically mentioned by creators when talking about the pilot

Yeah I think I remember watching an interview of the writers saying that the show was supposed be way darker with the humor but that version of the show wasn't being picked up by any network so they switched it to these still dark humor and insane plots (which were hilarious)

what you say at 17:10 really hit the nail on the head. Glee didn't know what kind of show it wanted to be, and it suffered for it. this only got worse as the seasons went on. there's a lot of potential there and even some truly brilliant moments, but there's just so much YIKES in between.

One thing I found really weird was how the teachers were well aware that the kids were regularly getting slushies thrown on them but it was framed as something they just had to deal with rather than something people should be punished for Also slight tangent but is it normal in US schools for cheerleaders to wear their cheerleading outfit all the time? Doesn’t it get sweaty and gross?

They would wear them before game days. Given that they'd cheer for multiple different team sport, and maybe wear them before their own cheer compactions too they probably did wear their uniforms to school more frequently than any other sport did.

I don't know about other schools, but at our school the cheerleaders would wear them throughout the school day, depending on the events happening. However, it wasn't a school uniform. I remember one girl getting in trouble for wearing a cheer jacket on a day she didn't have an event. Stupid, but they liked to dictate our wardrobe.

@kara Yeah, at my high school the cheerleaders only wore their cheer outfits during games, pep rallies, and I assume competition (I'm in band so I only have a small knowledge of cheer)

at my high school, they wore them on game days. so sometimes, yeah

Depends on the school I guess. The cheerleaders at my old school in Colorado wore them if it was a game day.

The stupid, “I’m an athlete so I can’t be a musician” troupe is so unrealistic. I know tons of people from my high school that would do multiple sports and marching band as well. It’s actually more common than not. My bf, was in marching band, orchestra, choir, hockey, and lacrosse. He loved both so he did both.

@InkHeart17 Yeah knowing a few band kids back then that's how it seemed. A few of them did sports freshmen year, but if you wanted to keep doing band after that you pretty much had to give up on all other extracurricular activities. I also remember most of them really only wanted to do jazz band, but the band director wouldn't let them be in it unless they also did marching band and all the other band competition stuff.

The captain of my school's football team is in both the regular performance choir at my school and the advanced choir. He also plays piano and sings really well.

One of the most popular guys in my school was in the acapella group (only the very best were allowed in, everyone else had to join normal choir) as well as a star football player. And he was Asian. Breaking all kinds of stereotypes, he was. There is a bit of truth of “i can’t sing and do sports” because it takes a lot of commitment to be able to do both very well, given how much homework and other responsibilities you have to juggle in your teen life, but people extrapolate that to mean that if you do sports you’re somehow physically incapable of singing and vice versa, or that being a singer is gay or some shit. Singing is not feminine. It’s universally a gender neutral activity. 🙄

Heck even my students in the science club are fit, their teacher sometimes takes them to the gym after experiments to exercise training because they enjoy it lol.

@Loven Kind yeah all APs with a 4.2, super strict Filipino family so he kinda had no choice lmao

Will is literally the definition of “peaked in high school”

@Proletarichad Don't talk like that, it's cringe

@Michael Adams don’t fucking think like this it’s cringe

@kay mills sorry I wasn't clear, I was talking about tropes in movies or entertainment. Typically portrayed in traditional media the nerd has an awful time in school, and is bullied but the light at the end of the tunnel is the success they can expect in adulthood. In the real world there are patterns and things you can see, but for the most part no individual falls into a "trope".

@kay mills yup I excelled academically in school and am now in my 30s and unemployed and broke. Same story for most former “gifted kids” I know. The athletic kids did a bit better for themselves because they were more well-rounded as people and had better social skills.

@Michael Adams the geek turned successful adult trope is bit outdated, at least in America. There are plenty of academically intelligent kids that peaked in jhs/h.s, that don’t do “well”in adulthood. It could be that they weren’t stimulated and motivated to do better, or realizing that in a room full of other smart kids they are actually a bit average so they don’t know how to cope(me hehe), or (and I think this is most candidates) their degrees mean nothing in this economy.

I've seen a lot of Glee reaction/analysis videos lately, and I'm very confused how everybody seems to be missing that the show was intended to be insane, trope-y, and full of bad people. Will and Rachel were SUPPOSED to be crazy, selfish characters.

The only good characters who were genuine and didn’t give me any conflicting feelings were Kurt and his dad. Kurt’s dad was so wholesome, and even when he didn’t fully understand Kurt being gay, he always tried his hardest to understand and even stood up for him. More hot takes no one asked for: Brittany was a great character and fun to watch despite being such a small part, Santana wasn’t likable at all but her coming out story made her a bit more likable, and (get ready for this one) AT FIRST I liked Rachel… mainly because of her passion for performing… then I realized oh she’s narcissistic so it’s hard to watch her most times. It’s so conflicting bc you wanna root for her but then she does the dumbest things and you literally just can’t (same with the rest of the characters tbh).

Speaking of comedies finding a younger audience during the pandemic... I don't think many aspects of the hugely popular series "Friends" has aged well - especially when it comes to issues of consent, mental health, homosexuality, etc. Then again, I never watched it during its initial run when I was actually young, and I am now binging the hell out of it as a 50-something gay, bipolar, abuse surviving adult who finds it funny as hell.

Friends is one of the greatest shows of all time. I watched it every week when it came out and watch reruns of it whenever I can. Don't let people who aren't happy and have so much fake outrage over non issues ruin anything for you, brother

I personally think Friends is a product of it's time to a higher degree than other sitcoms in that era (or at least the ones I've watched). Frasier handled homosexuality in a way more nuanced way for example, and holds up. What also helps is that shows like Seinfeld and Frasier have less humour centered around punching (up or down for that matter) and more about good writing, which also ages better (since situations will always be relatable, while the socio-cultural context that a "punchy joke" might rely on, changes over time - missing a bus is still relatable, the end of the Cold War isn't)

This is absolutely not the intention of the glee writers, but realistically Will would need more club funding to get rights to the music they perform at competitions. Sheet music and performance rights even for schools can be very expensive.

"a reverse that's so raven-moment, otherwise known as a memory" eddy. that was brilliant.

@萌え 🐾 Come on, Cami.. This isn’t you.. I know you can do better.. 😕🙏🙏

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Holy crap, you have to continue this series. You HAVE to. I feel both attacked and yet I completely agree with everything. And now I need to send this to my sister. We still talk about how messed up this show was.

I'd like to think this show isn't meant for us to "skip past" the horrible things the characters do but actually quite the opposite. In my mind Glee was always an extreme portrayal of awful people that do exist in the real world. It's not meant for us to sympathize with them but rather gasp at what they do and maybe find some truth in people that surround us. We should he horrified and we should also be aware that those kind of people do exist in our world lmao.

omg but jonghyun-

And we should remember that many of those horrible people are theater kids. I know first hand. Rachel was not a parody. She's real

@Audrey M so... don't watch it? I stopped watching for the same reason but at the end of the day it's just a show and there will be people that enjoy it. And given it was one of the most successful series of our time... a lot of people enjoyed it lmao

yeah, but that's not what most people want when they already have awful, obnoxious people around them irl and just want to relax and watch something nice, relaxing, and brainless (that's not this one).

This was really interesting! I’ve always been fascinated by the glee fandom, but hated watching Glee because everyone was mean. This is a really satisfying way to listen to glee drama while not having to sit through the show and getting upset lol. I hope you make more!

i’m begging u bro. pls do more of these, i’ve loved this heinous show for years and it deserves to be mocked and ridiculed and also appreciated

Gleeking out so hard rn.

So much love sent your way

It has been ages since I heard that term

Girl get therapy.

If I ever hear someone utter this sentence ever again I’m breaking their kneecaps

yes.

there’s something cathartic about hearing someone else talking about how weird glee is 😭😭 i appreciate the way you handled the different topics

I did enjoy Glee as a teen who didn’t have much other access to lgbt teen content except Degrassi lol. It has a lot of flaws and I’m uncomfortable with Mr Shues interactions with the students but damn the nostalgia 😂

@O M yeah basically I remember liking it when I was 16, I don’t like it now 😂

At least you can admit its nostalgia. What I find in the comments is a bunch of LGBT brethern trying to affirm what happens in the show as "what happens in real life" Like NO. THIS IS NOT REPRESENTATION. THIS IS IS A MOCKERY OF OUR EXISTENCE FOR REPUBLICAN FOX TELEVESION AUDIENCES

Degrassi and glee are my fav shows onggg

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The idea that it's aged poorly is interesting. I guess it must seem that way to a lot of people since it targeted such a young fanbase but as an adult everything mentioned here was pretty obvious all along, and was mentioned in a lot of the writing about the show, which was during the years where multiple critics recapped shows every week. I feel like it would sort of be worth it to watch a little further than the season and a half that you did, the show was still relatively good through that period, but like all Ryan Murphy shows it started messy and just spiraled from there so by season 4 or so it had gone past glorious mess to just unwatchable, for me at least. It's amazing how it kept finding new depths.

random but I went to the same high school as one of the writers, Ian Brennan, who based Glee off his experience in our choir (and in 2005, the choir teacher was convicted of sexual assault). No one at the school really mentioned it, even though I went there only around 10 years after the events that inspired Glee. Also crazy that Brennan was inspired by this horrible story of sexual assault and ..Glee.. came out of it.

“A reverse ‘That’s so Raven’ moment otherwise known as a memory” Killed me omg 😂😂😂

@Mitch Rudolph Until yesterday I'd have thought it was forgetting something

@JellyBeth Ah okay gotcha haha!

@OB2Kenobi she can see into the future

I've never seen That's So Raven, pls explain?

Glee characters ranked by how much you should care about them: Sue: Yes she gets very unlikable sometimes but Jesus Christ Jane Lynch needs aspirin for carrying the show. Santana/Brittany and Kurt/Blaine: If you can power through 6 seasons of this crap you will understand that these 2 couples really carry the show. Mercedes and Sam: Dude you cannot understand the chemistry of this pair. Quinn and Puck: Boi they really carried that drama in the first season. Tina and Mike Cheng: Again, the payoff is good if you power through to season 6, but oh my god it’s painful to watch Tina Finn: I know the actor died before season 5 and I give him all the credit for his acting. But the writing doesn’t hide the fact that as more time goes on, the more you start to realize he’s not a goodie two shoes. Rachel and Will: Can we even explain this

I never watched this show, but my sister was obsessed with it. I need more of this content! Such a fascinating case study!

Fun fact, Glee WAS originally written to be a movie. They adapted it into a series.

Well it definitely shows...

Thank God.

“This is an adult you would not want to trust in school” I never watched Glee but I had a lot of our friends suggest it. Glad you made this; I finally get to see what Glee’s about 😂

Glee is one of the most mid 2000s / early 2010s TV shows to ever exist and the fact that it aged terribly just proves it further.

@Elijah Ford’s Idiotic Variety Show True, but to me at least it encapsulates a kind of early 2000's leftovers vibe. Kind of like how the beginning of the early 2000's felt like the end of the nineties.

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I don't think it aged terribly, I thought it was both terrible and insane when it came out. 🤷‍♂️ I watched a few episodes because I didn't have cable and nothing else was on (and I had a crush on the redhead lady), but I don't understand how anyone was an actual fan.

@E K The first draft of the original script was written in 2005.

Glee is very 2010s. VERY millenially

This is perfect, I recently saw glee season 1(having never seen it before), and immediately thought this is actually the most insane show I've ever seen. Glad to see you're making videos on it, please make more!

i'm trying to think of a glee character that doesn't do something horrible at some point in the show and i'm honestly having a hard time

@Tash Consolati i mean i think he did a couple things but they wouldn’t be categorized as Horrible

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... Kurt's dad?

Coach Beiste?

One, I’m so glad YouTube recommended your channel to me, you’re hilarious & I really enjoyed this video. Two, the literal ONLY good thing to come out of Glee was kickstarting Darren Criss’s career & getting him exposure as an actor

I watched the show as a teenager when it came out in 09-10. I enjoyed it (the first season) a lot along with many others because of its absurd moments along with its snappy banter and we knew that it wasn’t to be taken seriously.

Oh boy what a cool video that won’t get taken down immediately

This comment did not age well

David with the sick fade

David did it guys, the video is still up

@Eddy Burback lmao

It didn't

Started watching as the show came out. Tried rewatching this a few months back. And I quickly remembered everything wrong with this show. Mr. Shoe being one of the biggest issues.

I think you missed the fact that for at least the first 2 seasons this show was literally made to lampoon teen dramas and things like highschool musical. It wasn't until season 3 or so where the show started to become exactly what it was meant to be parodying. There is still some tone deaf and dated comedy but overall I think people over analyze and hate on this show when they don't even realize what was going on. You mention that every character at some point does something truly awful. Yeah. But the point is that if you look at all the stuff we watched as teens and just accepted as part of the character or the plot, lots of it was insane and awful and we just didn't think twice about it. Glee flips that type of stuff on its head and throws it in the watcher's face intentionally. It's actually a sort of genius show in its own right.

I never actually watched this show, but I have always loved singing, musicals, and theater, so I knew plenty about it. But I never knew how actually creepy this teacher was being wth 😵‍💫 and also how toxic Rachel seems.

I mean, I'm only five minutes into this video, but I'm already thinking you have less of a problem with this show, and more of a problem with high schools in 2009. Teachers being oblivious to bullying, kids doing good but only for selfish reasons and teachers being pedos were all reality. The cripple comment was literally commentary on how dismissive and ableist schools can be. Glee probably does have a ton of problematic themes or jokes but it was one of the most inclusive and representative shows of its time.

"So, after a long day's work of blackmailing a child..." is a hilarious line. I never saw _Glee_ and had no idea it was this crazy. I still won't watch it, though, so keep these up please.

One of my favorite shows of all time. I love the chaos and its pretty funny.

I pray he get's to the school shooting episode. That episode is pure bonkers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBjIa6obU5E

Agreed! I would listen to an entire series about Glee. I never watched it but it seems insane.

it gets so much worse. i hope he continues the series

I hope this counts as does well, I want more glee episodes!!

I think you kinda miss the point of Glee: It is a satirical series, and they overexaggerate the characters and their problems. Glee is like a comedy/soap/musical. Imo, it's supposed to be absurd, more than realistic, and that's why I didn't find the characters creepy/weird etc. it was just a fun "wtf" show with throwback songs. Little to nothing in that series makes sense, and that's why it works. Tho the later seasons aren't up to par. I think it should have ended at season 3

@skinnymuching And thinking it's not good doesn't make it automatically bad if you "get it". I'd compare it to modern art. The average person don't view it as beautiful, but there are plenty that do, and appreciate it, and that's why it survives as an artform

@skinnymuching I do think that all opinions are valid, but not equal. It's the same when it comes to politics and lifestyles, or world views; there is no fasit/answer. Nobody knows what the "right" way to do something is. And since Glee is a series, which goes under: Art. Then all opinions on it is valid. Who knows or gets to say what good art is? Is it a matter of how many have the same opinion, or what opinions "experts" within the field have? Either way it is a fallacy since if it's about what the masses think: well if the majority of people say that something is "good" it isn't necessarily the case. The same goes if some of the few masters of the arts. The things that cannot be a matter of opinions is within science and mathematics, since theirpurpose is to prove their hypothesis.

@shadowilderness364 also subjectivity is opinion. Not all opinions are equal/valid. It’s a paradox/fallacy to say all opinions are valid.

@shadowilderness364 community did a ton of satire. It mocked Glee too. No one ever had an issue understanding the nuance. It’s always sunny is also a black comedy and is constantly satirizing things and being meta. Including multiple singing episodes. Again people aren’t constantly unable to “understand” it’s satire which isn’t even true. People are actually understanding it is satire. Being meta and satirical doesn’t make it automatically good if you “get it” (when everyone does)

@corvidmorgue it being a "horrible" show is subjective to the viewer. Just like how anyone can percieve any show as horrible. I think Friends and Seinfeld are horrible. Some people think Handmaids Tale is horrible. But the fact that it got many followings and many seasons might say it wasn't horrible to many.

I'm not the biggest Glee fan by any means. I've watched maybe a handful of episodes, however I think many people miss the fact that it's supposed to depict these characters as actual people who have good and bad qualities. The audience isn't supposed to root for them all the time. The jokes to me aren't even offensive. Family guy is way worse but nobody says anything about that show.

As someone who has spent the last two days watching all of your videos, I feel like I now have the authority to say "yes more pls. more of this thank you."

I fell into a “Mr. Schuster from Glee being a creep” compilation rabbit hole not that long ago and boy, as someone who tuned in every week, were my eyes opened wide to just how awful of a person he was! I would love to see more videos about Glee from you!

Another example of the slow Community being ahead of its time

I hope this episode did well cuz I would DEFINITELY like to see you do more!

I think it is an interesting analysis. I did watch Glee for a few seasons before losing interest as the show seemed to drag out its premise, especially after the older kids graduated high school. I thought the writing could be uneven (especially around the time I stopped watching it), but I found the show to be reasonably decent, and for the time, something different. It was never my favorite, but it kept me entertained for awhile. I never thought Glee was intended to be an "after-school-special" type of show that hammered kids over the head with a heavy morality lesson. Rather, it was a slightly dark (but definitely not Heathers-dark), and very campy high school satire that still managed to have several moments of mean/misguided characters at least temporarily realizing the error of their ways. I also interpreted the general message of the show to be that you could be different and quirky, but if you remained focused and authentic things would eventually work out for the best. Also, I think many of the characters were supposed to be examples of how NOT to behave or treat other people. I never got the sense the show implied it was acceptable to bully anyone, cheat on anyone, or mistreat anyone--quite the opposite. I do seem to appreciate satire more than some people (even if Glee wasn't always the sharpest example of it), and I don't believe it has to come with flashing lights "THIS IS SATIRE," nor do I think writers of satire need to constantly remind the audience about their political stance or who the audience should be rooting for (it's okay to let the audience figure it out). Also, as long as they don't get repetitive or forever stay one-note, I enjoy watching funny mean characters (versus seeing mean behavior in real life) since I understand no one is actually being hurt, similar to how some people find catharsis in watching horror movies where lots of people get killed (versus actually condoning or enjoying real people being harmed).

the show hammers its moral messages hard but the zoomer needs content so he only shines light on the tools with which the moral messages are being propagated. while at the same time ofc adhering to these messages 100%. it proves how effective shows like Glee were with their moralism. the producers are all from religious backgrounds as well. naive zoomers, they really think they are the ones that are noticing things when all of this has been set up for them from the start :/

The fact that all the characters started out so problematic is what made the show interesting

"All these bad people can change. So consider that when they're awful to you in life." Is a dangerous, poisonous message.

I only started watching Glee about halfway through the series but wow your comments about the Finn shower scene are making me realize how easily this pilot could be rewritten to be less problematic. Or at the very least, that scene: Have Schue look away and alert Finn of his presence as soon as he turns around so Finn can cover himself. Let them have an exchange where Schue tells Finn how good he is and offers him a glee club spot that Finn turns down. Swap the blackmail storyline/scene out for one of Finn at home, still thinking about the glee club offer and experiencing that flashback. And then he seeks out Schue (what Spanish teacher has their own office, anyway?) to tell him he'd like to join. Such an easy and obvious fix.

Kurt's dad is literally the only character in this show I care about. Everyone else gets tied up in dumb shit while he just wants to be there for his son. I'd like a show just about him tbh.

@Fat Cat not only that but the Glee member that called him the F slur was his soon-to-be step brother! Kurt’s dad could’ve easily taken the wrong step and sided with him to avoid problems with his fiancée, but he chose to defend & protect his son. Even when he didn’t understand much about what Kurt was going through or his experience as a gay man, he always tried to do what’s best for his son. That’s what the scene more memorable imo.

@Audrey M His main thing for me was being supportive when Kurt came out as gay despite not knowing much about LGBT stuff. There's a scene where Kurt gets called a slur by another Glee club member and his dad has one of the best angry monologues in the show. But generally, he's just a down-to-earth guy who tries his best to be kind to everyone, and his actor portrays that excellently.

the only character that actually had development

I never really watched this show when it came out so I only knew a few of the characters, but what did Kurt's dad do to be awesome? Just wondering.

@John Paul Cross yeah no kidding I dont know how they shat the bed with basically everyone else

More please! This show was such a dumpster fire but I couldn’t look away. Love your commentary 😄👍

I think it was pretty clear that his wife was a bad person from the get 🤣

I watched Glee when I was a teenager, and even then I thought the writing was crap. And I loved Twilight at the time.

Please cover more! I never got to watch it when I was younger but did recently, and was so shocked by some of the themes from the first season. I couldn't make it through any more 😅

"He's not disgraced after inappropriately touching a student?" Actually that feels accurate for 2009

True. That typically doesn't come until ten years later, when it's completely out of the actual picture of when the abuse actually took place.

@joe wharton Did you mention this at the new school? Also, how the bloody hell did he still get a job around kids/teens?!

@joe wharton jesus

Back when I was in hs around 4 years ago a maths teacher got fired because of how many students reported him for being inappropriate I moved schools and he was working at the new one

I feel the same. TV wasn't nearly as progressive or socially conscious at the time.

I literally still watch Glee sometimes not only because I like some of the song covers but because I love how absurd and insane the story are lol. For me the weirdest scenes are when Rachel joining literally every club in school including the Black Muslim Student Club just because she wanted to have photos of her in every pages of school album (cmiiw) and how Sue obsessed with Klaine couple and had a garage full of Kleine "collectibles" (Please comment if you have your weirdest Glee scene episode! I would love to discuss!) I love this reviews! Hoping you would breakdown every weird things on Glee cz there's a LOT lot lol

@Cecili T lmao after Quinn ranting how she hated men, hooked up with Santana 1 night, and had relationship with guy named Biff in the season after

Remember when Quinn and Santana hooked up that one time and never spoke of it again. That was real weird lmao

I was around when Glee first premiered and I always thought it was incredibly mediocre. There were a few times I enjoyed their arrangements of songs but it literally just became running every pop song through the Glee machine so they all come out the same The problem is it thinks it's a dark comedy but it picks and chooses when to be sincere and when to be ironic, so there's absolutely no tonal consistency whatsoever. And the show frames characters like Rachel as the hero when they're clearly the worst character. Also Ryan Murphy is a complete hack writer who cannot write for shit. He's only capable of using bad one-dimensional stereotypes. I remember on that show The Glee Project he told a guy who wanted to play a nuanced gay character that he couldn't write for that because his whole personality had to be that he was gay. EDIT: Oh I forgot to say that Jane Lynch is the only good thing about this show. She steals every scene she's in.

I don’t think all this was done unintentionally, I think the point was to have troubled characters

i would love for this to continue so i DONT have to watch it! thanks for always giving me pop culture knowledge about things ive never seen

I've never seen Glee, but I'm aware of it thanks to Community. I always wondered whether the impression given of it in that show was fair. Now I see it was *more* than fair. If anything it was rose-tinted...

This is the first video I've seen of yours and I instantly subscribed! Great video, very eye opening with good commentary. Keep up the good work and always be who you are 🤙

Yeah I think this video is doing well enough to warrant more episodes 😁 Holy crap I'm so excited because this show IS insane.

I want a whole series of this so bad!! I could listen to you talk for hours

As someone who hated Glee from the getgo, this video is very satisfying. The holier than thou sanctimony combined with the selfishness masquerading as empowerment drives me nuts. Everyone is a terrible person who does what they do for selfish reasons and yet it's always portrayed like this selfishness is a great thing.

I was in high-school when this show came out. Everyone raved about it. I was a depressed emo and hated the show. Still do lmao

I'm amazed at how poetic your anger is I need that ability

@NikSG94 My next "How lame is Justin Bieber" session isn't until January 12th. I'm proud to say I've been tapering down over the last six months.

I've been in the background for the show before. It's just as awful behind the scenes as it is in front of them... Or whatever LMAO you know what I mean.

@Punky Jewster i just watched Quinton's video on Victorious and it was great, his humor and the way he breaks everything down is what keeps ya watching for over 5 hours lmao. Love the username btw, it makes me laugh. Punky Brewster inspired me to wear two different colored converse throughout middle school 😂

That was really fun. I remember watching Glee but was focused on the music, I think, cuz I don't really remember some of those creepy things. Love to see more

Oh man I hope there's more of this coming. Me and my wife have started watching glee after watching the pilot episode and this video! Glee is insane

I recently rewatched this series and was horrified at how much I used to LOVE this show. Aged like milk

Looks like this video did pretty freakin well. I would like more videos like this about Glee in the near future, please and thank yew

Boy I sure do love the Glee pilot. I hope that a moustached twin with over 800k subscribers doesn’t break down why it’s actually very bad

@Fruit Salad " *you are* videos are ..."?

@Cat Tricks no the dude is legit like- braindead and ai fucking love him watch one of his videos, it's like an acid trip

@AxxL omg I actually love you- holy shit- you're videos are like- mental

@Cat Tricks being insane doesn’t disqualify him from that

@Clay Williams I don't think insane people make self-promotional spambot comments, I think really boring and talentless people do

character development is so foreign to zoomers seeing characters start from a bad place is an inexcusable oddity to them

i'd never watch glee but i would watch you watch and review it. id love more of these videos

I think it’s safe to say we all want you to do more of these.

PLEASE DO THE WHOLE SERIES !!! this video was so good😭

*Ed And Butter* slaps fire

Ey OTAT

One topic, I literally love your videos so much. You’re just the best fucking ally. Please don’t turn out to be the worst

please don't slap fire you'll hurt your hand

ONE TOPIC ✨✨

Its one topic 😁

Just found your channel and love this analysis. I watched the first 2.5-3 seasons which came out while I was in HS. I sorta assumed, and still assume, that most of the show’s jokes are sarcastic and dry humor. That said, it is a show marketed to children. Children cannot pick up on that. Lots of the scenes in glee could have been cut or rewritten. The stuff with Finn and Shu was totally not okay. I didn’t watch the later seasons but my younger sister said it gets worse

Thank you for being you. I don’t remember how long I’ve been watching you but even your ads are funny and I actually sit and watch them. So thank you❤️

I love your videos Yeddie! Keep ‘em coming!

Uh I'm going to need you to make this a series bc there's so much to dive into with this show

"I'm not homophobic, I have two dads." Have the same energy as "I'm not racist, I have a black dad." Which ironic enough she does have a black dad. So I'm terrified.

@Britt Here They had the budget for him?

@Mitch Rudolph Sounds like her and BLM in a nutshell.

@Mitch Rudolph no. The definition of “grifter” is that you don’t believe what you say.

@Elijah Ford’s Idiotic Variety Show thus making her racist against her own race

The joke was that one of them was her biological dad but in the scene she says she doesn't know which one.

Yes please make more of these Eddy. I really enjoy your solo content.

I've watched Glee all the way through twice now, and this video sums up the pilot in a great way, and in some ways I hadn't looked at it. I agree, Glee was absolutely batsh*t crazy a lot of the time, but very occasionally, they handled some issues pretty well. Some of the writing will always catch me very off guard at how sincere it is, and then *very sudden transition into instrumentless version of We Will Rock You* There's plenty of...not so great stuff too, but honestly if you're looking to yell at your TV and just kinda turn your brain off for a while, Glee is all right. I would love to hear more of your takes on Glee further though. Great video!

I rewatched all of glee recently and I’m so down for you to do more.

I love no matter how fit Eddy gets, he still has that adorable Mario face.

For anyone who hasn’t seen the show, I assure you this is the most tame episode of the show, it just gets more insane

You’re making me interested in this show. All of the main characters being terrible and having to grow makes the show interesting. The characters need vs their want is one of the keys to good character writing. The inappropriate touching and other stuff is pretty awful though! Lol

i get the video. but because of reviews like these, every movie and tv show is made so clean and safe that everything is trash nowadays

Never watched any of your videos before I loved this, would love to see more glee analysis

YAY! Thank goodness the video went well...Cant wait for more!!

It feels like this show wants to have the "It's Always Sunny" Approach where the comedy comes from everyone being an awful person, yet it also wants you to genuinely care about and root for these characters even though there's very little redemption compared to the genuinely terrible things they do.

Imo Shameless does the same but executes it much more smoothly

@Caroline It started out as dark comedy ? pleaaaaaase you have to be kidding

@lance turley what was particularly grotesque about all that was that Kurt was effectively trying to get Finn to "go gay." Considering how much homophobic bigotry is rooted in the notion that being gay is a choice. It not only makes Kurt seem like a creepy sex pest, but also like one of those guys who later becomes "ex-gay" and then starts being a spokesperson for homophobia. Worse, there was an earlier plot where one of the female characters was giving him a similar treatment. For all the supposedly progressive messaging the show has, the writers have some messed up ideas about sexual orientation.

Solid point and I couldn’t agree more. I mean look at Sunny, they made the characters awful and didn’t expect you to find them likable. It’s kind of the whole point. That’s what makes that show so brilliant. They know the characters are trash people so they throw everything at them and it is always hilarious. There’s a reason Glee is gone yet IASIP is on it’s 15th season and tbh it just keeps getting better.

I think part of it was because the early writing definitely seems aimed toward older teens & adults but the nature of it being about high schoolers and the marketing ended up aiming the show more toward pre-teens & young teens. The black comedy/“all the characters are awful” aspect is harder for that age to grasp in general so it ended up being that weird mix of parody and genuine that made the show so weird to watch. Honestly there were probably real negative impacts for some people that watched it when it came out but as an adult who watched it for the first time with no nostalgia attached, I think it’s definitely in the “so bad it’s fun” category.

PLEASE do more Glee videos!! I can’t wait to see you review S4 most of all 😂

I still can't believe this show was a popular as it was when it came out. I new immediately that it was insane. It really broke my heart because I was genuinely very excited for it to come out.

I just noticed his wife had 2 cups of champagne when telling her husband she’s pregnant. Was she planning to drink it 🤦 🤣

I forgot how wild the first season was. More reviews would be fantastic 👀 great vid!