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I wasn't sure which creepy dude you were talking about because both guys on the thumbnail are creepy looking.

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You will never see this. Ok, so the money...you have to get performance licensing fees to sing songs in glee clubs. Yup, I know it sounds dumb. Mine only did three a year, but yeah, that's where the funding goes. Also, those teachers only get like a 1k per annum stipend ffs. How many deaths were there in this cast?

I think the Myspace mention was because it was anachronistic even in 2009

Ummm Eddy you never told me when I could open my eyes so I didn't actually see the whole video but I listened to the whole video.

Will is literally the definition of “peaked in high school”

@Lottie Smith Painfully me. It’s a daily torture to exist knowing my teen self would be horrified at how I turned out.

One Toussaints! Then it'll make some sense

He also has massive Dollar Store NPH energy.

Honestly, that’s literally all the characters

Sounds like me

Glee is actually a surprisingly accurate demonstration of school. Everybody is absolutely cutthroat and unstable

My high school wasn't like that at all. Everyone kinda got along with everyone where I went and if you picked on someone smaller then you chances are someone else was gonna kick your ass for the kid who was getting picked on cause ironically all the kids who could fight by that time were kids who fought alot in middle school and hated people picking on people.

I actually didn't experience this until I was graduated from uni and working fulltime

@Caoimhe Does Stuff I think by "knew each other" Jayme meant that everyone's family knew each other too. It's a lot harder to bully someone when your mom is friends with their mom.

What high school you go to lmao cannot relate

I liked finn, sue and eventually santana. Rachel actively drove me away from the show. I don’t usually mind characters that were designed to be hated but honestly they succeeded a little too well with her

@Anna H Lawd. I wasn’t trying to defend/apologise for her, for the record. Just pointing out that she’d go from doing some really messed up stuff to the show framing her as the protagonist and for those of us who were literal children at the time it was really weird. I didn’t watch very far into the show though, I’m pretty sure I wasn’t watching at that point,

bro same i cannot stand her 💀

I’m I’m I’m not not feeling too bad I love that that I love the kids kids so I’m I’m just

I’m good at getting stuff to be there but I’ll let let me me

Rachel was always the most annoying character.

I would say the charm of Glee was actually just how extreme things could go plot wise. The show is full of psychopaths, sociopaths, and generally awful people. Better yet, the show doesn't feel the need to balance the bad right away. It clearly works to keep folks engaged. I really am surprised it survived without any public backlash cancelling it. I mean Glee was nearly as hardcore as an adult comedy. Surprised teens got to watch it.

@PointsofData yea that's likely what kept the core audience hooked, my comment was more about why parents etc may have let this show slide as something kids can watch, since op expressed surprise that there wasn't much public backlash

@Sam I never watched Glee but my general impression was that the shipping was what attracted a lot of people. That and the LGBT representation.

i just think a lot of people understand Ryan Murphy,I feel like heMw a very watered down PG John Waters and it just does not read well for a lot of people.

I'm pretty much convinced that the main reason glee lasted so long was the fact that many of their covers were honestly straight up bangers, so the popularity of that part of the show basically kept it afloat. Also parents probably didn't pay much attention and just knew that it was some high school show with lots of pop music that was being played on the radio

I never finished watching Glee, because in the words of Kelly Kapoor, "That show...honestly, it's irresponsible." I think they pulled plot lines out of a hat, with no thought put into character motivation or any semblance of how normal people behave.

Yeah do you guys not realize this is a satire comedy?? It’s supposed to be absurd

@Brenna M if i'm not mistaken i think glee is supposed to be a satire

Yeah at one point, instead of picking songs to go with the storyline, they started to write storylines to go with the songs they wanted

literally

I was in high school when this show was in its peak (late 2000s) and I never got into because it looked so ridiculously inauthentic, a caricature of the high school experience which I was literally living, and had ridiculous amounts of overacting. I did like the songs they song though.

I would love to see more Glee episode reviews!

😭

Go away, Glunt.

Yes me too!

YES! PLEASE! Do reviews of the finales!

You remember that part later on where the gay kid intentionally manipulates his single father into dating the very, VERY straight boy's single mother for no reason other than wanting to be able to spend more time around the straight boy in order to convince him to try being gay, then when the obviously uncomfortable straight boy comes home to find their room (which they were forced to share against his will, by the way) completely rearranged and redecorated with out his knowledge or consent, he starts using some homophobic slurs to insult the gay boy, and then the straight boy is the one who 'learns a lesson' about tolerance and accepting others while the gay boy gets off with zero repercussions or even a single question about his incredibly disgusting and inappropriate actions? Good times, that.

What episode was that

@Bakuhakudraws “The entire show is a run-on sentence” made me laugh

i quit watching after that episode

@beep boop i agree with you completely. I don't understand how more people have this take.

one of my favorite things about glee is now everyone sucks. it’s like one of the only accurate representations of high school, just about everyone is in the wrong and awful in every situation.

It's not a case of "aging," it was always this weird, if not straight up problematic.

“Weird/problematic” is a strange way to say “extremely bigoted” but otherwise, yeah.

3:15 Why does everyone seem to forget that sexual assault on men was seen as funny and laughable until VERY recently? Like since maybe the Metoo movement started. You can find men being touched inappropriately in media fucking everywhere. 2009 is irrelevant, because Glee likely wasn't the only show doing it and excusing it.

@tyrone sebastian fifty shades isn't even bdsm it's just abuse. The difference being in bdsm consent can be revoked at any time.

nah fr!!! it happened in 50 shades of grey too where like the main man protagonist (if I’m remembering correctly) was like sexually assaulted when he was young but it was romanticized and praised bc it was an older women and that’s what started his bdsm fetish as a trauma response. and that movie is loved by so many people but it’s just as (probs even more) problematic as glee and other films/shows/books that look past or don’t care about men being assaulted :/ it’s just all so fucked up

TBF it's still not uncommon but neither is what could be considered sexual harassment of women. I just saw this movie where I guess I was expected to laugh at the boss purposely walking, sideways, behind a woman who was bent- over checking a filing cabinet in a tight corridor. Yeah.

13:25 Honey, I'm pregnant! Let's celebrate with champagne! Uh... anyone else see a problem with this?

constantly happens while she’s pretending to be pregnant and will says nothing about it, confused me so much😭

Yeah, that bothered me a lot. She believed certain alcohol was okay. Her sister tells her that rum based drinks are fine for the baby. It's so awful.

The part I liked the most about the show is how the awkward, bullied people can also be a giant asshole in their own right.

@Jershu Muyo Love your profile haha!

Rachel in a nutshell

Oof! And that, boils and ghouls, is why everyone and their grandma has quoted Nietzsche over and over. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a thing humanity has done since the dawn of time...

@lela maciolek A lot of people who are bullied are trained into the same worldview of their bullies, and that causes them to see a bad world

Often times awkward, bullied are being ostracized for problematic behavior.

I feel like Glee was meant to be full parody-and then people took it at face value, and then it was forced to take itself seriously.

Ah the ""ironic" thing becoming surrounded by idiots thinking they're in good company" effect

I found Glee uncomfortable when it aired. Was told I was narrow minded. I always thought this was bad fan fiction of someone who peaked in HS.

@Jackson Davies how is being bigoted woke?

It was pre-woke woke. It played on all of the extremes. You weren't alone.

i remember watching this when it came out, and i got hooked because things like Rachel's ulterior motives for reporting Inappropriate Ned Ryerson, or the fact Will blackmailed his star singer into participating were setting up big consequences down the line. but i think characters just being transparently awful as a gag is just part of Ryan Murphy's writing style.

Ned? His name is Sandy, where'd you get Ned from?

@LadyLiddell for those things no. Rachel eventually has shit catch up to her towards the end of the show but she ends up turning it around and getting everything she wants in the end. Will eventually tells Finn about blackmailing him, but Finn just has a dumb teen boy moment and is like “that’s so cool that you blackmailed me!”

I never watched it, so WERE there big consequences for those actions down the line?

Agreed. This is my main issue with this guys video, it doesn't seem like he really gets the joke that all the characters are supposed to be awful people for laughs, and instead is upset at what he perceives to be sloppy writing.

Yeah, I never got the idea i was supposed to “gloss over it” and think it was a “moral” reason or anything, just dark and funny

As someone who was in high school when this aired in 2009 and was in a small town in the Midwest, a lot of the stuff that happened in the pilot isn’t far off from how things actually were then. Are they all awful and unacceptable? Yes. But sadly, teachers turning a blind eye to a gay kid or any kid that is “different” being bullied back then was a real thing. In my high school we had a history teacher figure out who the gay kids were and would specifically target them IN class and in the hallway. And the other teachers in the hall in neighboring classes never did a thing to stop him, at least in the 4 years I attended. All the funding for the cheerleading squad only? Also a real thing. We had two activities that got all the funding, as it was the only “claim to fame” my hometown has. That was the women’s soccer team and the marching band. And by the way, any sort of music activity is expensive: choreography, sheet music, transportation, lodging, etc. And this was in the middle and wake of the ‘08 crash. Budgets for the arts were a real problem, and it’s even referenced as a nationwide issue going on at that time in interviews with the Glee producer and writer. A lot of midwestern schools developed the pay to play policy because of the Great Recession. Which just exacerbated the issue. So Glee for as shitty as it was, was funny because of how accurate it was to life in a way. And everyone knew it was messed up, even then. That was why it was funny. It held up a mirror to us as a society as we were then. It didn’t age well because we as a society have grown. The same way a person may cringe reflecting on past behavior. The fact that this doesn’t past as muster anymore is a good thing. Edit: so on the topic of teachers being inappropriate with students - yeah, that happened a lot more than anyone wants to think. A good example of this being the case is that ticktoc trend a little while ago where a lot of millennials who would have been in high school around this time talk about the teacher everyone knew not to be alone with. And guess what? There were at least two of those in my high school. Is Glee over the top with some things? Yes But it also was pretty accurate to small town midwestern high school life. And I would argue the first season of Glee does a passable job at being a parody. It was after it became popular and started believing it’s own bullshit that it stopped being parody and started going off the rails. All this being said, I do not disagree with your assessment of Glee. What I am long windedly trying to say is you are forgetting the social context this show occurred in. And or you didn’t experience this exact context yourself, in which case you wouldn’t know some do these things. 2nd Edit: Yes Will is an awful teacher. That was kind of the point the show originally had. It told us point blank this average ex-high school choir nerd lies to his wife, is stuck in the past (he works at his old high school), and routinely talks and dreams about himself. That was the point. He was so wrapped up in his own bullshit. The show forgot that though as Glee went on. But it was pretty obvious that he was not meant to be a shining teaching example.

I fell into a “Mr. Schuster from Glee being a creep” compilation rabbit hole not that long ago and boy, as someone who tuned in every week, were my eyes opened wide to just how awful of a person he was! I would love to see more videos about Glee from you!

What's the video called? I would love to watch it

I need to check that out. Occasionally I'll have flash bulb moments where I remember how weird and creepy Will was and it completely catches me off guard.

@Gikuyu Nderitu *streets ahead

Another example of the slow Community being ahead of its time

I've never seen glee, and I'm certain that watching this video is 100x better than watching the actual show.

fair enough! I'll probably never watch it though because there are so many clips on youtube that I can just watch the best bits that other people have highlighted for me. thanks youtube!

It’s a funny ass show. Honestly. And if you like pitch perfect and the pop songs you’ll like glee

glee is a good show (i haven’t finished it yet) and you just have to know what is satire and what isn’t (since glee is literally like the definition of satire)

Idk man i feel like this video took glee too seriously to the point where its not fun to watch. Glee is one of my favorite shows because i see it as a parody.

@peperoncino Glee is actually a very good show. Very entertaining.

I just noticed with Finn’s spin that when they show his shoulders turning the opposite direction to what they show his legs turning. Either his upper and lower body operate separate to each other, or continuity dropped the ball

I think that was intentional. It was meant as a little visual gag.

Funny, my wife discovered Glee in highschool, and being russian, it opened her eyes on so many things we take for granted in other countries, especially regarding the representation of minorities. 10 years later she considers that Glee was the main reason why she became so open-minded on these subjects. So yeah, from a perspective of an american review (or french in my case), the show has big problems, but from another perspective, it actually can be super good and helpful.

Yeah it's really complicated because while this show does have genuine problems it was also incredibly progressive at the time for having openly gay and trans characters with actual arcs and stories related to it.

It’s also worth remembering that it was 2009, and as terrible as this representation is it was still more than was common at the time even in American tv, and the show was at least *trying* to be sympathetic towards them, even if it failed.

I grew up as a preteen & teen when glee aired, I even considered myself as a gleek and had my fandom days for this show, too, and I braced myself through all 6 seasons. honestly during those times it aired, the show seemed to bounce back and forth to market it as a satirical comedy or an inspiring chase-your-dream media. and me as a teenager was more sold into the latter idea, they even had these segments where they introduced these irl people and their stories about what made glee so inspiring for them on their 3D concert movie. the more I rewatched it as an adult, the more I came closer to the conclusion of how messed up the whole show was

Same! I didn’t make it through all 6 seasons (though I did continue to keep up with the songs bc I enjoyed them) but it was one of those shows that I both enjoyed and absolutely hated. It had an impact on me in many positive ways, but it also made me so uncomfortable on a regular basis and looking back I cannot believe some of that stuff was allowed to air in a show aimed at like…high school aged kids.

Oh boy what a cool video that won’t get taken down immediately

This comment did not age well

David with the sick fade

David did it guys, the video is still up

@Eddy Burback lmao

It didn't

it’s really weird how well this show did imo. like i never heard a single person talk about how insane it was until fairly recently. i didn’t even know it was a “satire” show. which i think is bad? like… people just thought all this was cool?? so odd. i didn’t watch it until it was already almost over so it was pretty much on it’s last leg. but i knew so many people who’s entire lives revolves around these characters who are fucking insane??? the only “good” characters for me were santana, brittany, mercedes, unique and sue. it’s so shitty that they prided themselves on being inclusive but literally bullied the minority groups they tried to include. anyway this show is batshit insane but sue sylvester is a goddamn icon

Between this, Riverdale, Lost and a few others, I think batshit insane television has and always will be popular.

I've never seen this show, but it looks like the comedy is similar to "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia". It's supposed to be extreme and the whole comedic point is that they're awful people (or awful situations) who don't see that they're awful. It also touches on real life topics that a lot of people don't talk about. From watching this short video, I actually find the show pretty funny.

@Insert Creative Name Here it's like it's always sunny but without the consequences

i think the difference is that always sunny in philadelphia recognizes that their characters are terrible people - that’s part of the drawing point of the show. they’re bad people doing bad things and that’s what you’re watching for. glee frames its more unlikeable characters (will and rachel, as an example) as heroic protagonists without acknowledging that their actions are often morally gray at best

I think we can all agree that Lea Michele was an absolutely perfect choice for Rachel, except for the fact that Rachel has one or two redeeming qualities

Oh she can also run on stilettos on cobblestone, I know that it’s technically Lea Michele doing it but it probably took her multiple times but Rachel could do it immediately

@Banjo Peppers she does sorta become semi nice on the off chance she knows she's in the wrong

Redeeming qualities? What?? On Rachel??

As the series went on, Sue became much more of an antihero than the villain. Honestly, there were so many times when she'd rip into Will over something and you'd be like "Y'know what... SHE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT on this one! Go Sue!"

“A reverse ‘That’s so Raven’ moment otherwise known as a memory” Killed me omg 😂😂😂

Awesome

@Mitch Rudolph Until yesterday I'd have thought it was forgetting something

@JellyBeth Ah okay gotcha haha!

@OB2Kenobi she can see into the future

I've never seen That's So Raven, pls explain?

This show feels like a fever dream and it's especially cursed how many members of the cast ended up dying young

@Vítek Tran yeah a load of the cast is dead, cory monteith (finn) died of an overdose during the show's runtime after finding out he was being written off, the guy who plays puck killed himself in prison where he was being charged for possession of kiddie porn and naya rivera (santana) drowned a couple of years ago in a lake

Wait WHAT??!

Seasons 1-3 of glee are hilarious and I don’t take any of it seriously. I do appreciate the representation (the way it’s presented at least) and I love the humor that goes way over the line and borders offensive. I also like the fact that ALL of the characters are flawed regardless of what they look like or any of their inalienable traits.

I think a large problem is the show starts taking itself too seriously later on. It started out as tongue-in-cheek caricatures of teen drama tropes, and Jane Lynch is the only one who remembers what kind of story she's supposed to be in. Also, I'm still legit mad about the Jonathan Coultan ripoff lol

Okay, maybe it’s just me but i feel like most of the glee reviews are just… not getting the point? This show was meant to be heavily satirical about show choir and high school life in general. The characters were definitely not meant to be perfect and likeable all the time, Racheal was definitely one of the most hated characters even when the show aired so that’s not a new concept either. All the awfulness was supposed to make you cringe and laugh, bc that was the point. I understand that some people find certain things about the show a little weird or a bit awful but most of the analysis i see on the show completely misses the point of the show in the first place. It was never supposed to be just a feel good, innocent teen comedy. The awfulness was there on purpose.

Poe's law moment

"a reverse that's so raven-moment, otherwise known as a memory" eddy. that was brilliant.

@Decrepit Elmo also, I was frustrated that day because I'd seen repeat sponsored vids by them that day. It's typically bs. I wish creators could more easily choose who to promote.

@Decrepit Elmo I don't really know. However, I've heard they treat their employees worse than Amazon and create a lot of trash regardless of the company claims. Personally, as a small business owner, I don't like ten companies controlling the sponsorship opportunities. I've done sponsorships, paid well, but I can't hit the wide net they do. I also don't like the shift to single companies controlling nation/worldwide areas of consumership at inflated prices. I miss the small independent market on the corner where I could easily pick up ingredients for one or two meals as desired. They were super cheap yet I imagine that they are strongly impacted by this business model.

@Skarry, Earth Human What's wrong with hello fresh

@Skarry, Earth Human just reported it for porn

I laughed so damn hard omg

Ed, it’s July 4th 2022, democracy is crumbling, my childhood dog passed away, and I’m just barely getting over covid. The first minute of this video put a smile on my face, thank you for that, and keep doing the absolutely ~immaculate~ work you do ❤

Democracy is fine and you have Covid because you’ve had the shot and maybe a booster. Get with the program and stop helping klaus shwab.

My childhood cat (had him for 10 years) passed on the 4th too, I know how it feels and I hope you feel better my guy ❤️

Little dramatic

You'll get over it

hope things get better for you soon & you keep finding other content that makes you smile !! :)

I was the prime target audience when this came out and I remember thinking it was fucked up and I was disappointed that so many of my peers couldn’t understand that this was like pouring poison into your brain through your eyes. The characters are shitty people and the audience was conditioned to be shitty or at least not confront their negative actions. Thanks for pointing this shit out.

Like "it's always sunny in Philadelphia" but they forgot the part where the being terrible people has consequences and the irony is lost on the audience

You treat this show like any other show. It's a comedy that creates relatable situations but amps up the characters traits to level ten so we can learn from all the mistakes these histrionic, narccistic and problematic people make. Yet they are lovable because they do try to make up for their mistakes with generosity and love. We can all see how many times the principal ignores issues and believes the wrong person and goes on to get blackmailed multiple times. This is relatable. People like sue exist and it's scary. I love that these kids make mistakes but like a family move on from them and eventually help each other. It gives all is sinners some hope. It's not to condone the mistakes...may we learn something from the show but also learn to forgive these sort of situations. No one should be condemned except real life puckerman.

I will never have normal feelings about Glee. It got its hooks into me too young and too impressionable. Without it, I might have struggled a lot more to figure out my sexuality. So as much as I can look at it and see all the faults, the horrible missteps and truly awful later seasons, it will always have a place in my heart. But also, don't think that viewers at the time were foolish. We all knew and joked about how the characters were assholes and made terrible choices, but that doesn't mean they aren't interesting or without value. Rachel is an insufferable narcissist, but she asserts her worth and works her ass off. I couldn't stand her at the same time as I wanted to be her.

that's very true, rachel's character was a complete antihero and as annoying as she was, you couldn't help but feel bad for her when kurt lied to her abt finn liking loose girls

The fact that you're still in what's largely considered the GOOD part of glee says a lot about what this show is

@Little Lady cancel culture is the name for a phenomenon that's been happening for as long as people have been a thing. It just has a name now.

@Stealthfang 270 ah now I understand (tone being hard to tell and all I thought you just didn’t know that it happened)

@Moss frog yes that's what i was referencing, it was totally absurd

@Stealthfang 270 what do you think the 80s satanic panic was

@B-Do Dungeons and Dragons AND Magic the Gathering have been 'cancelled'? May as well cancel all of wizards of the cost, them and their witchcraft and their satanism and whatever else people say about them

I remember when Glee came out and it was the first time I had seen a main character in a show who was gay, with Kurt. I believe the Single Ladies dance was the first thing I saw and I was like I need to watch this show 😂 I was a big theatre kid and it was cool to see performers in high school and a really diverse cast represented. I had also seen Lea Michele on Broadway in Spring Awakening and was a fan. But MAN did this shit age so poorly 😂

I can get behind the school teacher / student boundries thing. This is way outta line. But besides that, honestly, I miss shows where nearly every character is a horrible person. It creates a way more entertaining, saucy and dynamic atmosphere then most shows where everybody tries to be a PC superhuman and there are only like 2-3 antagonists that are obv. designed to be disliked by the audience. If you're familiar with Ryan Murphy's work, nearly in any of his shows, must of the lead characters (or all of em) are morally bankrupt.

I take it you're a fan of its always sunny?

I watched all of glee with my mom over quarantine and the last season basically just throws away all of the things that every character has been working towards for the entire show

You know, not only did this video perform well, it is one of your best performing videos ever. We deserve a sequel.

This video is amazing HAHA- I love your editing and storytelling style. My girlfriend had us watch glee over quarantine as well, and one thing that helped me get through all of it was her being like “Now remember babe. This is a satire.” constantly before and throughout the show LMAO. We never could finish the show because that level of secondhand embarrassment is tough to binge all at once, but knowing these wild things are intentional and making fun of similar shows and depiction of that culture is hilarious and made me at least respect it…kinda

@phenominiallmusic yeah but even satire is shit when it becomes repetitive. Just because something is satire doesn't mean its great

I couldnt bare more than like 2 and a half season because it also just becomes unbearably repetitive and the drama is highly annoying

@Elsie high school dramas

I've never watched Glee. What is it supposed to be a satire of exactly?

@phenominiallmusic yeah ngl, episode 1 and a large portion of the beginning of the show was GREAT. consistently got laughs out of me. the problem is that after a while glee seemed to forget what it was going for. after a while it essentially stopped being satire

It's so weird when you watch a series that was popular and you just go "none of these characters are likable, why was this a thing?"

@Adrianne Wittich yeah this shit and big bang theory.

Literally what I say about Seinfeld. Glee and Seinfeld are in that category for me.

Interestingly...Disney tried to sue a Glee club in Oxford UK for using the word Glee...Unfortunately they did not research properly, because glee clubs dated back to 1787 in London where the first club had it's first official meeting, which is of course centuries before the existence of Disney itself.

If you think Rachel is bad for exposing that teacher for her own gain, wait till you see the 1st episode of the 2nd season

As a former theater/choir kid, I know sheet music can get pretty expensive. Considering how many songs the glee club burns through a week, having more than $60 would be helpful

As someone who hated Glee from the getgo, this video is very satisfying. The holier than thou sanctimony combined with the selfishness masquerading as empowerment drives me nuts. Everyone is a terrible person who does what they do for selfish reasons and yet it's always portrayed like this selfishness is a great thing.

Imagine never knowing what it was til a couple years ago lol I remember some theatre and bands kids talking about it in high school and being like if it’s a show these kids like I bet it’s terrible 🤣 also I never watched tv in high school so there’s that too

The one thing it kind of got right was the spontaneous singing. You put a bunch of musicians of relatively equal skill level in a room with a piano, sit back, and watch. Not only will you get a free concert, but also the performers won't charge you; the magic they're making in that space comes from a passion for music, and you just happened to observe them You should have seen the band room my Senior year at lunchtime. Band and choir ate their lunch there, and rare was there a lunch period where a bunch of kids weren't seeing and playing instruments. There's a certain joy you get when you and another musician find yourselves in a spontaneous ensemble.

@NikSG94 I get this happens online and it's annoying, but the OP gave genuine reasons as to why they don't like it, they didn't just say they didn't like it to be a hipster.

@BeepSmile Dude, woah. I forgot the last time I saw a Justin Bieber bash fest. I feel like I'm back in high school.

I was in high-school when this show came out. Everyone raved about it. I was a depressed emo and hated the show. Still do lmao

as a kid who LOVED glee and rewatched it again in my 20's for the nostalgia because it was that big of a part in my young life... yes, i agree.

Also, glee straight up steals renditions by other artists. Like not covers, musicians change the way the songs are sung and glee hears them and goes "Yeah that's our version now" Jonathan Coulton's version of "Big butts" is one example.

Wow. Someone finally points out how weird it was that Finn admired the lawn guy. I thought that was odd even back in 09’

My daughter and I watched Glee together when she was in middle school. We were shocked every week by the things that you are pointing out in this video. Glee was a bunch of Cringe with a great musical moment or two. That was it's charm. We laughed until we cried at how inappropriate it was.

Boy I sure do love the Glee pilot. I hope that a moustached twin with over 800k subscribers doesn’t break down why it’s actually very bad

@Bovine Arrogance " *you are* videos are ..."?

@AxxL omg I actually love you- holy shit- you're videos are like- mental

@Cat Catterson being insane doesn’t disqualify him from that

@Clay Williams I don't think insane people make self-promotional spambot comments, I think really boring and talentless people do

Imagine getting married to someone and they still say “This high school event was the greatest moment in my life” Like what about your wife and her announcing her pregnancy? Come on man 😂

IIRC the show was intentionally trying to be irreverent to poke fun at the popularity of High School Musical. But then the show became super-popular and the executives pivoted it into being less of a satire, and it made the tone all over the place. I'm guessing some suit at Fox didn't "get it" and just wanted them to play it straight. It's like if Police Squad tried to be more like Law And Order. XD

This is the best comment I've seen on here.

'Will's wife gets pregnant and OH NO, Will can't do the Glee Club. Will pushes her down the stairs ' I was waiting to hear that. 😳

I am ashamed of my Glee phase. I had a life-size cutout of Kurt in my room (that's how obsessed I was). It is such a cringy show! Would love to see more of your vids!

It feels like this show wants to have the "It's Always Sunny" Approach where the comedy comes from everyone being an awful person, yet it also wants you to genuinely care about and root for these characters even though there's very little redemption compared to the genuinely terrible things they do.

Not the only problem but the biggest, structural problem

This was always the problem with glee! This imbalance. It ends up almost justifying their behavior.

@Creecher from the black lagoon Eh, maybe it's because I grew up in a time when a lot of preteens and younger teens around my age were fascinated with Happy Tree Friends as well as the earlier seasons of Family Guy and South Park, but it's kinda odd to me that marketing would feel they'd have to tone down their dark humor for preteens and younger teens around that time period.

@3dartxsi Lets not forget the fact that show creator Ryan Murphy pretty much believes that Bisexual people are not real

@misslittledove Of course, the actor playing the lead male character died coming out of rehab and that definitely led to the cancellation of the show (more than anything else imo). Finn's character was central to the long term plotting of the show and he was also arguably the most popular character on the show. So Glee was fated to end once Cory Monteith passed.

will is literally the typical tv parent who wants to live vicariously through his kids (in this case his students) for just selfish reasons

My wife recently watched glee for the first time on a trip and we had an hour long conversation about how they pay 4 professional musicians for 2 hours once a week. That’s 7$ an hour for professional musicians!!!!

Stumbled on this video today, I really hope you end up doing some more Glee, I really liked it! I watched Glee back in highschool and ended up dropping it in college, mostly because all of the characters are so awful and the show never could decide if it wanted to be drama or parody. But I never realized how Glee was really that fucked up even from episode 1!

Looking back, it's hard to believe one could miss all of these atrocities Ryan made possible. But we were blind because we all could relate. I was happy being a part of our glee club and I did see myself in the show. 🤷‍♂️

"I'm not homophobic, I have two dads." Have the same energy as "I'm not racist, I have a black dad." Which ironic enough she does have a black dad. So I'm terrified.

@Delirious Zora one of those dads was JEFF GOLFBLUM.

That's...that's the whole point. That was the show making fun of people who think this way...

@Britt Here: Brian Stokes Mitchell is her other dad.

I would happily sit through a Glee related series, if you decided to continue making the content. I chuckled the whole way through the video - even the sponsored content. New subscriber here :)

I mean, I don't think anyone thought it was going to age well even at the time it was airing. I had to drop it a few episodes into the second season after it just got too obnoxious for me. I'll never forget how awkward and forced all those "message" or "issue" episodes felt, preaching kindness/tolerance/no bullying/etc., since Ryan Murphy is so clearly a bitchy mean boy at heart, and you could feel how he and the other writers were itching to get back to the comfortable norm of writing characters who are supposed to be friends being unforgivably nasty and awful to each other constantly, with no real emotional fallout. The only character I remember wielding that awfulness to genuinely comedic effect was Sue Sylvester - it just got exhausting from all the rest. I also recall the characterization feeling really spotty/inconsistent, which is usually the deal-breaker for me with shows. If I can sense that characters are just going to shapeshift and change on a dime in order to take the plot where the writers want it to go, I lose all emotional investment in those characters because they cease to have any reality to them.

@Banjo Peppers lmao, i'm a big great british baking show fan, okay? it seeps into my subconscious, and i mixed up my short-haired funny women for a second. it happens!

Sue... Perkins? What's with everyone in the comments getting people's names extremely wrong? Unless Sue Perkins is from a different Ryan Murphy show?

I tried to re-watch every season of Glee when the pandemic began (and didnt finish the 4th season for obvious reasons) since I remember watching the first season when I was younger and absolutely loving the premise wherein they perform songs that were either popular back then or kinda new to me. But watching it again in my 20's and understanding the plot line + characters is both enlightening and a curse. So yeah, thank you for this video!! I'm a new subscriberrr

I would definitely be interested in more Glee videos, this was very funny and accurate

Glee is one of the most mid 2000s / early 2010s TV shows to ever exist and the fact that it aged terribly just proves it further.

@MC it didn't pander to gay people, it literally just said "gay people exist" and y'all found a reason to be mad at it

It's really weird I could have sworn this show came out earlier like 2004 or 2005- feel like I'm losing my mind.

@Elijah Ford’s Idiotic Variety Show True, but to me at least it encapsulates a kind of early 2000's leftovers vibe. Kind of like how the beginning of the early 2000's felt like the end of the nineties.

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I don't think it aged terribly, I thought it was both terrible and insane when it came out. 🤷‍♂️ I watched a few episodes because I didn't have cable and nothing else was on (and I had a crush on the redhead lady), but I don't understand how anyone was an actual fan.

For anyone who never watched glee in their life, Community’s Season 3 Episode 10 that is basically making fun of glee is less insane than this. Bear in mind that its a *Community* parody, where the teacher kills the old glee club so he could make regionals.

So. I've never seen your channel before. But this is amazing. I watched it with my husband who hadn't seen glee and he was like "wait? This is the first episode? How did this show air?" I was just laughing because your commentary was stuff I never thought much about. Loved it. Do more! Do more!

Speaking from personal experience, being in a high school show choir in Ohio during the height of Glee was an absolute nightmare.

My main memory of the height of Glee's popularity is the episodes big final song was always the number one top selling song on itunes the next day.

This show was a huge part of my identity in high-school.I used to call myself a gleek,proudly. Having gay and bisexual characters really helped me feel more comfortable with my own bisexuality. The show did however normalise a lack of boundaries between teachers and students. Will treats the students like his friends/peers which made it seem like it was okay to form relationships with authority figures. As someone who was groomed by a teacher I can say that shows like Glee and Gossip Girl definitely did active harm. The early 2010s really let a lot of pedoshit slide.

um they couldn't even have their only bisexual character call herself "bisexual".

like that weird scene in grown ups

@Amura Hiboshi The oldest and most effective method of teaching is telling stories. Before most of human population worked out how to write and read we taught each other through the word of month. And stories are much easier to remember than just random advice or commandment Even Jesus himself did it. What are parables but stories with religious moral lessons? He didn't just say "don't be a dick to each other". He created this whole story about a good Samaritan being a morally better person than law abiding Jews This story is so powerful that I, a full-blown atheist, still remember it If you think that tausends of years of oral tradition will be surpassed by the relatively modern way of teaching relying mostly on facts logic then I don't really know what to tell you I'm not saying we should give up teaching scepticism But part of this scepticism should be media analysis

@ßussin ßussin on gawd! ????? Yeah I guess dude. I don't know. That's how y'all feel. To me it was just an entertaining show. But like, I'm sick in bed reading a manga called Kasane by Matsuura Daruma and it's pretty good. It's all tragic and a bit melodramatic (it's about theater like yeah) but it's about an ugly girl who gets bullied. Her greatest wish is to be loved and admired and follow her passion for acting. She's really good at acting btw, She gains this magic liptick that, when she puts it on and kisses someone, they trade faces. It's really good, I recommend it if anyone is interested in that type of thing.

@Amura Hiboshi I dont know why youre even saying this... i think most people agree that Glee shouldnt exist.

I loved and lived for glee. I actually rewatched it during the lock down too. It was so much fun to watch. But this video was absolutely hilarious 😂 and very accurate.

I was one of those teenagers that in my 20s have think how problematic this show was! So please keep going

Funny how my christian high school absolutely loved this show (we sang the cover songs in choir) only for discussions like this to happen 🤣

How did i not realize how problematic glee was when I watched it years ago

"So, after a long day's work of blackmailing a child..." is a hilarious line. I never saw _Glee_ and had no idea it was this crazy. I still won't watch it, though, so keep these up please.

@Sunny That episode shocked me! Because it starts as any other episode, but then we hear shooting sounds and it immediately turns into kind of a light thriller

@Sunny I was hoping a better handling of the topic, but it at least sounds more entertaining

@hello I'll if by better you mean the episode includes a serenade to a cat, and then a student fires a gun into Sue's desk accidentally.

@Sunny there's a school shooter episode. Tell me, is it better or worse than the 13 reasons why one?

One of my favorite shows of all time. I love the chaos and its pretty funny.

I've never bothered to watch the show as I always assumed it to be a high school musical dramedy, but after seeing your video I now assume it to rather be a satire show instead and I'm more interested than ever to check it out!

I love glee. The whole show was absolutely amazing. I love the wit from Santana Lopez, Sue Slyvester, Mercedes jones , and Uniqe "wade" Adams. I also love The musical arts mindset from William Schuster, but I do detest his creepy ways. I play three sports, and yet I get a lot of praise for my singing.

So glad I stumbled onto ur channel This video is a great look at how ass-backwards this show is I mean don't get me wrong, my mom and I loved Glee but we fell off the bandwagon after a while cuz it got too weird Fun fact: choir budgets pay for the rights to the sheet music There are fees in order to have access to popular songs that are adapted to 4 part harmonies Sorry I was in choir from grade school thru college 😅

Yeah, I remember watching it back and the day and loving the songs and stuff... and then re-watching the same thing years later, and spotting all sorts of things I missed the first time that made me go "Oh my god... REALLY? NOOOO!!!!" And somehow, Sue Sylvester, the designated 'villain' of the show, started to sound... a lot more reasonable sometimes, ESPECIALLY in her dealings with the now-very-creepy teacher Will.

I can confirm, watching glee as a teenager gave me psychological damage, being subjected to matthew morrison at such an early age is very damaging

fun fact for anyone who didn’t know, mr. shue and rachel dated irl before the show started… imagine how weird that was

A lot of the show was problematic. I find Sue very problematic, sometimes in a very dangerous and abusive way. I also have the very unpopular opinion of not liking Santana at all. She is a bully, but people see it as a 'strong female'. There isn't one character that I find I actually like most of the time. Sometimes there are moments, but not a lot.

I really enjoyed this, I hope you do more.

Just to correct one thing. If you are going to have a glee club/high school choir, you actually do need a budget. You have to pay for sheet music, sometimes you have to pay for someone to play the piano (although sometimes you can get a band teacher/student to do that for free). It's also nice to have choir robes or something like that so that every kid doesn't have to spend the money to come up with some kind of uniform and acceptable performance outfit. You also often have to pay for transportation to performance venues/conferences/etc. So yeah, you don't need a huge budget, but you do probably need more than $60. Carry on.

@Kate Wood they must have like free domain old music as an option?

My mom went to college for piano and singing back in the 70's and when I was a teenager ('02-'06) in high school, my mom helped out their the chorus. She'd record tapes for the students for free for performances and give them one on one help whenever they need it. All the students loved my mom and I know a lot of them wished she was teacher instead of ther teachers aid.

None of those things are an issue on Glee, though. They don't use choir robes, they don't use sheet music most of the time, and I'm not sure if Brad the pianist was ever paid (I *think* he's supposed to be another teacher?? They never explain him.) Like of course they need funding but the show especially early on doesn't seem to care about what they actually spend money on, especially since they just all spontaneously know how to sing every single song without sheet music other than in like two episodes.

my school we have to buy our own sheet music, outfits, and transportation to things, but we do pay for a pianist and to preform in certain concert halls

Yes, at least sheet music, accompanist... And compensation for time spent teaching outside contract hours. No teacher should have to work for free.

The whole show was a walking harassment lawsuit waiting to happen. Only realizing now that the pilot had all the red flags that would make a lawyer see dollar signs is priceless.

It's interesting hearing your reaction to the shower scene. Being european, to me, it's not a big deal. It's not like will is going right in front of finn and oogling him. And they're both male. It's just not that big of a deal. But i get that americans are a bit more uptight with nudity, and considering that, and that glee is an american show, it's a little weird that it was included

Loved this. Subscribed. Hopefully you do more Glee content. The show is absolutely INSANE.

I watched the first three seasons of Glee and I liked them(I did try to watch the later seasons, but I got bored and stopped watching), so I seeing people calling Mr. Shu a creep and I'm like,"Which season was he a creep? What did he do?" Some people don't bring up the evidence to back up their argument, so I'm perplexed on Glee. 🤔

I liked Jane Lynch's character and that's it. She is iconic in a mean sort of way and fits the role like a glove. But for a show that self-advertised its diversity, Glee kind of reinforced many stereotypes and misconceptions: mental health, race, biphobia, sexual abuse, etc. Kinda hypocritical.

I think it only reinforced the stereotypes because it's largely true of such groups. Plus whenever people try to "break down stereotypes," they inadvertently make even more stereotypical characters

Honestly i just watch degrassi it was just as over the top but it was suppose to be a teenager version of a soap opera and actually tried to show real people without them having to be too role model-y also they were better at minorities not being stereotypes as it went on. Apparently canada is better at making glee without the annoying singing since the 80s.

yes, but at the same time, you’ve gotta understand that, at the time, it really was revolutionary to have a show where almost the entire main cast were minorities.

@Amber Read some representation is better than none, right?

everything i learn about Glee scares me more and more and i have no idea why it got so big

Please do more of this I literally went to your page just to see if you'd done a follow-up and was so sad you hadn't.

Glee went on for so long because Jane Lynch is a national treasure and for no other reason.

I actually loved the first season of Glee. Just because they weren't afraid to make a joke about dark moments. It's so exhausting to act all virtuous and that everything in life should match my moral standards.

"He's not disgraced after inappropriately touching a student?" Actually that feels accurate for 2009

True. That typically doesn't come until ten years later, when it's completely out of the actual picture of when the abuse actually took place.

@joe wharton Did you mention this at the new school? Also, how the bloody hell did he still get a job around kids/teens?!

@joe wharton jesus

Back when I was in hs around 4 years ago a maths teacher got fired because of how many students reported him for being inappropriate I moved schools and he was working at the new one

I feel the same. TV wasn't nearly as progressive or socially conscious at the time.

Really hope there’s a part 2 soon 🙏

PLEASE talk more about Glee, this show is insane

Glee is one of the finest examples of long form absurdist comedy in the past 20 years, fight me.

We need to see more Glee analysis Eddy. Or else. This is a legal threat.