Game Theory: Star Wars Lightsaber Vs Halo Energy Sword

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    Two EPIC weapons in the ULTIMATE sbowdown: The Star Wars light saber and the Halo energy sword! Fans of both franchises know that these are iconic weapons on both sides, but that they also have some pretty interesting similarities. Researching how these weapons would be made and what kind of damage they could really do led me to ask just one question: Which one would win in a fight?!

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MichaeI J Caboose
MichaeI J Caboose

The Energy Sword may only have 10 swings, but those swings are only spent when they make contact.

Vor year
Commicar azereus of the 3rd company
Commicar azereus of the 3rd company

Caboose how do you know this

Vor 23 Tage
brod
brod

When the Jedi blocks it ten hits done

Vor 23 Tage
savige_like
savige_like

Finally someone said it👍

Vor Monat
keith pendegraft
keith pendegraft

@Chez I don't know I his field manual

Vor Monat
keith pendegraft
keith pendegraft

Yes

Vor Monat
MattsLegoChannel
MattsLegoChannel

Game theory: we can’t make light sabers Hack smith: ha no.

Vor year
MattsLegoChannel
MattsLegoChannel

@Clément Bianchini yea idk I forgot that but it’s still cool and they made a halo sword thing

Vor 3 Tage
Clément Bianchini
Clément Bianchini

They made a plasma blade not a light saber for the exact reasons specified in the video

Vor Monat
Jonathan Reardon
Jonathan Reardon

@Mr Monkey or a kyber crystal

Vor 2 Monate
Legend1899
Legend1899

you can ask him to test it now cuz he made the energy sword too

Vor 4 Monate
Velly Talas
Velly Talas

@Sharkslayer Productions yea and it’s basically a portable flamethrower but instead of fire it’s plasma

Vor 5 Monate
Jacob C
Jacob C

Matpat: Energy sword lasts 10 swings Prequel duels: Oh, they are screwed!

Vor year
just a guy who likes dogs
just a guy who likes dogs

@CursedIce well maybe not one move maybe like 4 or 6 moves

Vor Monat
Harsha
Harsha

In expanded ,we can use force and just crush the opponent away

Vor 3 Monate
parsa nasirzadeh
parsa nasirzadeh

True but it would be more interesting that way

Vor 4 Monate
crusader of the snazzel: treywebb
crusader of the snazzel: treywebb

@parsa nasirzadeh maybe,but then thats more jedi vs spartan and not lightsabers vs energyswords like intended

Vor 4 Monate
parsa nasirzadeh
parsa nasirzadeh

@CursedIce but if we say that both party’s could use all powers then the Jedi could just use the force to help them not get caught ( not that it matters I love both franchises {sequels not included} )

Vor 4 Monate
Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

Actually, the energy sword lasts much longer than you’d actually think. In the expanded lore it takes a lot of hits before it runs out of power, it gives more reason to come out on top.

Vor year
crosshair studios
crosshair studios

In expanded lore its said it takes 10 years before it needs to recharge

Vor 3 Monate
KAI
KAI

Nowadays I still don't know which is the power source of the energy sword, the 100% bar shown in the HUD is only to balance the gameplay, it isn't canon

Vor 4 Monate
Danielle Jarvis
Danielle Jarvis

You know, the ten hit thing is a balancing thing in the game, in the expanded universe the energy sword lasts until the weilder puts it away, otherwise the arbiter would be long dead by now, along with countless others

Vor year
No
No

@RIOT_ BABY22 Lightsaber batteries last DECADES, even though it’s different from the the batteries in game in lore energy swords runs out of power. So they both have “infinite” strikes. head to head it all comes down to better weapon design and who’s fighting (which for fun let’s say it’s arbiter against mace Windu without force powers.)

Vor Monat
Fork
Fork

Darksaber vs Energy sword will be amazing

Vor 2 Monate
Harsha
Harsha

so we can use force thing now

Vor 3 Monate
batjuan 66
batjuan 66

@Mahad Ahmed don't forget in halo 2 it doesn't run out of energy.

Vor 3 Monate
H Family
H Family

Same with almost all covenant weapons

Vor 4 Monate
Roman Torchwick.
Roman Torchwick.

"10 hits may be enough for our elite to beat a saber wielding Rey" well Rey does suck at using the lightsaber so yeah it would be easy

Vor year
crosshair studios
crosshair studios

@Mighty Ocelot and vice versa

Vor 3 Monate
Malik Despanie
Malik Despanie

(Shadiversity laughing in the distance while mocking how bad Rey's sword stances are.)

Vor 5 Monate
Justin Y With Mustache Access
Justin Y With Mustache Access

@GG R lol rip man

Vor 7 Monate
Axton Minor
Axton Minor

Everybody gangsta until arbitor shows up with his unlimited energy sword

Vor year
HAXED
HAXED

we all gangster until the elites glass tatooine

Vor 5 Monate
turtle with a controller
turtle with a controller

Artas vaduum!? (Halfjaw (shipmaster) )

Vor 11 Monate
Din Djarrin
Din Djarrin

Unlimited *ENERGY*

Vor 11 Monate
Machina Anguis
Machina Anguis

It's not just the arbiter the plans sword doesn't really die with the exception of game balancing, but by that logic every Jedi would be able to rip a giant ship it of the sky so lightsabers are kinda pointless.

Vor year
Local Ketamine Dealer
Local Ketamine Dealer

Energy swords can actually last up to three hours of continuous combat in the lore.

Vor 7 Monate
just a guy who likes dogs
just a guy who likes dogs

lore

Vor Monat
Christian Donley
Christian Donley

Alot of the lightsaber fighting techniques teach lightsaber users to counter other lightsaber users and I feel the moment someone lunges at a Jedi with the energy sword a Jedi would just chop your arms off

Vor year
IAmTheSenate218
IAmTheSenate218

Yes,i thought the same,jedi trained for these stuff so long,doesnt matter of the energy blade design,the jedi could still do the dooku or anakin on them

Vor 19 Tage
BanMeUWU
BanMeUWU

@The Mexican batman took me a second to understand. Hilarious.

Vor Monat
The Mexican batman
The Mexican batman

Nah remember when the Senate lunged at the jedi, it is effective

Vor Monat
AeonReign
AeonReign

Do they get their power armour? Cause I imagine that'd buy them a second to cleave the Jedi

Vor 4 Monate
Needy
Needy

Fax

Vor 4 Monate
Luke Sterling
Luke Sterling

Something to take into account about the energy sword is that, despite its "ten hit limit" seen in-game, this is purely a game balancing mechanic and not reflective of how the energy sword is in the Halo mythos at large. Remember that the energy sword only loses ten percent of its charge on the killing blow. You can strike an enemy repeatedly with no loss of charge, and it's only the final strike which actually kills the opponent when the sword's battery depletes. And even then, there are exceptions. The energy sword expels not ten percent but rather two to three percent of its charge every time it lands a killing blow against a Flood, because the Flood are heavily decomposed and putrefied, so their bodies are much easier to cut through and therefore require less battery from the sword.

Vor 6 Monate
Uprising4c
Uprising4c

4:54 "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine." -Spaceballs

Vor year
calvin peters
calvin peters

Now lets see how you handle it

Vor 18 Tage
Spaghetti balls
Spaghetti balls

Yogurt, I hate yogurt even with strawberries

Vor 10 Monate
WildFire
WildFire

Wow the guy from film theory and the guy from game theory did a colab! Epic!

Vor year
AngryManDanTheCommenter
AngryManDanTheCommenter

One thing that I just thought of that may just be b.s but is still interesting is that considering that a lightsaber is made of plasma its energy levels are to too high to have any significant weight(which you can see in the movement of the movies) and the energy sword is held together by a magnetic field, meaning it has a high sense of "gravity" (for lack of a better term) and would be exceedingly difficult to speedily use, so while weighted weapons are effective the almost weightless agility is a game changer. (I could go into better detail but I have covid rn so I don't care)

Vor 6 Monate
DragoSonicMile
DragoSonicMile

No matter which sword wins, all of us lose. *Let's face it; we'd all cut our own arms off within a minute or so.* ~Honest Trailers.

Vor 6 years
oddly curious deer
oddly curious deer

@Kahavave then again, the stick would have weight In the blade/shaft/thing. a lightsaber or energy sword would not. therefore, the stick is easier to fight with. with a lightsaber, you would cut your own arm off if you weren't extremely coordinated

Vor 4 Monate
Blaze Gilzow
Blaze Gilzow

I don't have such weaknesses

Vor 10 Monate
Dayna Coslow
Dayna Coslow

I train everyday

Vor 10 Monate
A random person
A random person

Quick question. Why are you guys using + next to the names? If you click reply even after the comments are deleted the link to the channel will still be there. If you really want to write the name down that much, we use @ here.

Vor year
UwU EXE
UwU EXE

4 years later and the first real light saber was created the one good thing about 2020

Vor year
Iggydapiggy
Iggydapiggy

2022

Vor Monat
Lucca Kincaid
Lucca Kincaid

11:50 As seen in Halo 2 when you play as The Arbiter, the energy sword takes way less energy to use. So really you could swing 34 times as arbiter. This could mean that there is a proper trick/form for energy swords that takes less energy when you swing that a human wouldn't know. So I think there isn't really a defined limit because it depends on your skill.

Vor year
Evan Holty
Evan Holty

11:00 are we going to ignore that Mat said “ Calvary sword “ instead of cavalry sword?

Vor 4 Monate
Misriah M319
Misriah M319

Anyone just... Plow through the first halo 5 Campaign level with only a broken energy sword which spawns behind you like a brass knuckle?

Vor year
Joshua Ded
Joshua Ded

*WAIT WHAT?*

Vor Monat
Ethan Fenton
Ethan Fenton

I know most ppl won’t see this but a death battle of master chief vs Luke skywalker would be sick

Vor 3 years
Error 404
Error 404

Revan in his prime vs Master Chief in his prime. Most entertaining fight ever.

Vor 4 Monate
LEGO Anakin Skywalker
LEGO Anakin Skywalker

Master chief vs Anakin Skywalker will be sick

Vor 4 Monate
KAI
KAI

@Nightchade the luck is part of the Force. Plot twist buddy

Vor 4 Monate
Fake Jake
Fake Jake

@HunterH 117 true. With the force he would lose but without it he would win. Granted luke probably woudnt use the force choke tho he would probably just push him back. But all chief has to do is get a hit on luke with basically anything and he has got him. If they had a duel all chief would need to do is hit him like once with the energy sword and he had the advantage there because the energy sword was proved to be a better weapon, he could disarm luke fast

Vor 6 Monate
HunterH 117
HunterH 117

as much as I love Halo, the Chief stands no chance against a guy that masters the freaking Force. The closest we saw was against the Didact, and he couldn't land a single hit before getting force-choked, suspended in the air a few kilometers above the Earth's surface. And the Didact didn't have a lightsaber.

Vor 6 Monate
Vivid Wizard
Vivid Wizard

I always thought about how a light saber would probably only have weight in the handle, and this has solidified that for me, giving me the thought that it would also feel pretty realistic weight wise in VR.

Vor year
Mike L
Mike L

The one glaring omission that makes the results here incorrect is that all “trapping” style swords use the blade to funnel the opponent’s sword down to the trap position. The swords go from being wide open down to a choke point that is used to disarm the opponent. The Halo sword just has a narrow opening at top which turns it into blind luck that the opponent’s blade will slip between this opening

Vor 4 Monate
Storm Shadow
Storm Shadow

That doesn't make the results incorrect, It is surprisingly easy to anticipate and catch a narrow rod-like object in between openings that are similar to energy sword's. Also since elites are specifically trained to use the trapping technique along side others means the users are... well... used to it.

Vor 3 Monate
SumPrettyChillYT
SumPrettyChillYT

MatPat: "I'm still gonna get a lot of hate on this video, aren't I?" Me: *defence against hate mode, initiated."

Vor year
Jackson Corvus
Jackson Corvus

Matpat: "Photons have no mass" Austin: "is THE SCIENCE a joke to you?"

Vor 11 Monate
Ultimate Scotty
Ultimate Scotty

Lightsaber gets stuck in the middle of the energy sword. Energy sword user: I've got you now! Lightsaber user turns off the Lightsaber, moves the handles and turns it back on. Energy sword user: *BRUH*

Vor 2 years
The Soaring OWL 90
The Soaring OWL 90

The lightsaber user could also just go for the shoulder, instead of going for the hand and getting stuck. Or, you know, any part of the body without the energy sword…

Vor 23 Tage
The Soaring OWL 90
The Soaring OWL 90

Funnily enough, that is what I was thinking. Anyone know how long it takes to turn a lightsaber off and on again? That could be a viable strategy…

Vor 23 Tage
Joshua Ded
Joshua Ded

@Just some chair without a mustache well they won’t bleed out because the wound will be burnt, and the energy sword when hit an object, it gets a surge of energy

Vor Monat
Duncan Setiawan
Duncan Setiawan

I mean he can just get to his behind father he turns off his lightsaber

Vor Monat
just a guy who likes dogs
just a guy who likes dogs

lol

Vor Monat
TheCompleteMental
TheCompleteMental

Lightsabers being able to be moved around like a normal sword would be an overwhelming advantage and an undoubted win for the jedi

Vor 6 Monate
TheCompleteMental
TheCompleteMental

@SHC Demolisher Not with any strength or agility

Vor Monat
SHC Demolisher
SHC Demolisher

Except the energy sword can technically be done the same through movement.

Vor Monat
Joey Hobba
Joey Hobba

Not just that the energy sword was used with the elites cloaking ability as an assassination weapon rather than a direct combat weapon, and it doesn’t drain energy to clash swords or hit anything else it’s only when you hit an enemy that it drains energy, awesome video thanks ☺️

Vor year
W Sloth
W Sloth

4 years later and its still good to watch

Vor year
Machina Anguis
Machina Anguis

I mean yeah I guess if you wanna ignore like 70% of the information provided by the lore for both weapons and like, physics... Also being incorrect about unrelated items.

Vor year
Mikkelhedidi
Mikkelhedidi

I think the Halo sword should get extra points for looking AWESOME

Vor year
Big Ben
Big Ben

But what happens when you bring a gravity hammer into the ring

Vor 6 years
Joshua Ded
Joshua Ded

Welp everyone goes flying

Vor Monat
Cat nip
Cat nip

we all die.....the end

Vor Monat
Andres Castro
Andres Castro

Hahahaha

Vor 4 Monate
Brandon Willis
Brandon Willis

@Garth then other Spartans are protected by their armor

Vor 4 Monate
soap _
soap _

Actually the energy sword can withstand unlimited swings. But, it can only withstand 10 hits which is more then enough considering that the energy sword can one hit most characters.

Vor year
DabrowskiPlays
DabrowskiPlays

Now imagine the Energy Sword combined into a single weapon.

Vor year
DabrowskiPlays
DabrowskiPlays

@Fallen_angel [memes for life] it's fine lol But yeah that would be nice

Vor 3 Monate
Fallen_angel [memes for life]
Fallen_angel [memes for life]

You get something that can switch between a heavy hitting claymore and a quick and flashy stick, I would imagine that the lightsaber part of this amalgamation would have two, each on both sides Sorry it took a whole year for someone to respond oof

Vor 3 Monate
Kristopher
Kristopher

The energy sword also only loses energy when you hit some one and it instant kills anything

Vor year
Ben John
Ben John

It's kinda crazy that something similar to the proto saber is now real

Vor year
Tony MG
Tony MG

Mat pat 3 yrs ago: 2:07 “and nobody wants to talk about midichlorians” 2019 matpat: *does an entire video about the science of midichlorians

Vor 2 years
Un Sombrero Guy cualquiera
Un Sombrero Guy cualquiera

*Ironic.*

Vor year
Jeremy Nar
Jeremy Nar

Keep talking

Vor 2 years
Obi wan Kenobi
Obi wan Kenobi

@Im Sooth Weestern don't try it.

Vor 2 years
Im Sooth Weestern
Im Sooth Weestern

nebel rebel YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER

Vor 2 years
nebel rebel1
nebel rebel1

@Im Sooth Weestern well guess i have the high ground in this situation.

Vor 2 years
Mush Cap
Mush Cap

The energy sword is also more powerful, in the games it can even cut through an energy sheild in one small slash, which means it can deactivate the light saber quickly

Vor 7 Monate
Maja Kaczurba
Maja Kaczurba

Another reason for energy sword to come out on top: Energy Swords can be uses by anyone, lightsabers can't. I know we weren't supposed to talk abut that, but it's important. Jedi use kyber crystals also known as “the living crystals” to make their sabers, but the thing is, every Jedi must meditate with their crystals, because otherwise it will act against their wielder. Sabers will start becoming heaver and heaver. It's not even about midi-chlorians it's just that crystals are alive and need to have a strong bond with someone to work with them. (That's why Darksaber is constantly describe as heavy, it doesn't want to be wielded by someone who can't pick a side)

Vor Monat
Crimson
Crimson

depends what's used as the power source of the lightsaber certain sources are way stronger than others

Vor 11 Monate
OMNI GOD
OMNI GOD

I'm pretty sure in lore the energy sword has way more than ten swings.

Vor year
Iain of the Izzet League
Iain of the Izzet League

I love how he misses the lore that says that a lightsaber needs 10 years before they need to recharge.

Vor 2 years
Sykohtic
Sykohtic

@1833 the lore is literally cannon. Anything confirmed by Bungie or 343i is cannon. This includes basically the entire expanded lore on the timeline shared with the original games save for a few comics. In fact, most of Halo’s expanded lore across many different forms of media is created with consultation from the game developers and writers.

Vor 15 Tage
just a guy who likes dogs
just a guy who likes dogs

but do you think they would be fighting 10 consecutive years

Vor Monat
Beer
Beer

@Cody Miller and how exactly? C'mon show us your explanation huh?

Vor 2 Monate
Axe the Viking
Axe the Viking

@Cody Miller please elaborate.

Vor 3 Monate
Arrigo !
Arrigo !

Yea, the lightsaber can function independently, because is powered by a semi sentient crystal full of energy and directly connected to the force, the power that literally controls the whole universe and also other dimensions(like the hyperspace) or planes of existance(like mortis).

Vor 4 Monate
Alysha Semler-Baltzer
Alysha Semler-Baltzer

Energy sword would actually come in handy in an actual sword fight

Vor Monat
Michal Grutka
Michal Grutka

Well, the battery life of the energy sword depends on who you're fighting. If you're slashing the flood, the beamsword can last up to 30 swings

Vor 5 Monate
DripKnight
DripKnight

Even 5 years ago the editing still slaps

Vor 11 Monate
Krûk Blood-Axe
Krûk Blood-Axe

While I appreciate the thought process behind a lot of this, but I feel like you left out one very important thing. While yes, it might be possible for an energy sword to catch a lightsaber like a parryinf dagger, the lightsaber still has the reach advantage, with some lightsabers even being able to adjust their length with a dial. At the end of the day, there's a reason why things like parrying daggers and swordbreakers were offhand weapons wielded in place of a shield; length is everything in a sword fight. Nothing is stronger than more reach, to the point where a poorly trained spearman can be able to hold off two much better trained swordsmen, simply because of the reach advantage. The lightsabers shape also allows for a greater freedom of motion, emphasizing wrist movements. The energy sword is held more like a katar, which also happens to be its' closest real life comparison. To be honest it only allows you to attack in fairly predictable, straight forwards motions, that emphasize power, but sacrifice a lot of finesse. And when your sword can already cut through everything... well, power doesn't mean nearly as much as speed, finesse and freedom of movement does. Much like with the parrying dagger, the katar was never a widely used battlefield weapon, but rather more of a sidearm, or civillian weapon, with a lot of them being highly decorated and designed to be carried by nobility. It was fairly effective in confined spaces, but outside of them, didn't see much practical use due to the lack of reach of manouverability.

Vor 8 Monate
MaSTeR ChIeF BLANK
MaSTeR ChIeF BLANK

Actually in the novels the energy sword lasts for far longer perhaps even a day they nerfed the sword in the games for it would be far too op to essentially last forever

Vor year
DonutKingMarko 501
DonutKingMarko 501

In lore, energy swords also have a longer blade. Lightsabers have 3ft long 'blades' and energy swords have 4ft 'blades'

Vor year
Cai Zylstra
Cai Zylstra

lightsaber 'blade' lengths can change they cn grow longer or shorter, 3 feet is just the traditional length, they can be longer

Vor 7 Monate
Nemy noodl3
Nemy noodl3

I think it really depends on who's using the weapons, not the weapons themselves.

Vor 4 Monate
SpooncerBooncer
SpooncerBooncer

As a matter of fact, swinging in (Saber) fencing isn't allowed because they wear MASKS not HELMETS meaning the back is exposed.

Vor year
Dawko
Dawko

New intro is beautiful!!!!

Vor 6 years
Your Momson
Your Momson

NEW😂

Vor 11 Monate
Myles
Myles

T

Vor year
Myles
Myles

Ok

Vor year
TbGamesMx
TbGamesMx

Who would think that now dawko is friend of matpat :)

Vor year
Mewtwo
Mewtwo

Dawko hello

Vor year
Velly Talas
Velly Talas

The energy sword actually in lore but they gave it 10 swings in game for balancing so technically the energy sword is much stronger

Vor 5 Monate
Summer Wimmer
Summer Wimmer

100% I learn more science/math stuff from Matt Pat than in my actual classes...

Vor year
AstralFlare42 Studios
AstralFlare42 Studios

I would reverse engineer an energy blade to work with a self charging power crystal.

Vor year
Holy RedEye
Holy RedEye

The halo energy sword isn’t for combat it’s just used as a symbol to show authority.

Vor year
Jack Jones
Jack Jones

Oh no, " The energy sword seems like it's almost designed to counter lightsabers" We have another theory on our hands

Vor 2 years
Fallen family
Fallen family

As much as I love the design of the energy sword I don't think the sword breaking design works against a circular blade because there's nothing for the sword breaker to catch onto

Vor 2 Monate
Just Be Good Lito
Just Be Good Lito

@Cabbage the halo universe could be where the yuzahn vong came from 🤯

Vor 4 Monate
ieman harris
ieman harris

Why isn't this a thing?

Vor 4 Monate
Cabbage
Cabbage

Oh baby’s I can see the thumbnail now. halo confirmed a part of the Star Wars universe!

Vor year
Mikel minderhoud
Mikel minderhoud

As much as I understand where you're coming from, I think maneuverability is a decisive factor in combat. To block an attack with an energy sabre you have to expose your upper arm in most positions whereas a lightsaber requires way less exposure.

Vor 4 Monate
Kai Tay
Kai Tay

Matpat: *figuring out how a lightsaber works* Hacksmith: Good guess but actually no

Vor year
Needy
Needy

He completely forgot about a lot of things about each weapon He gave design to the energy sword while forgetting other hilts and even forgetting you can turn a light sabour off to reset your placement

Vor 4 Monate
JellyDoesThings
JellyDoesThings

I don’t think Mat realizes that a lightsaber gets it’s colour by a magic crystal, and not any sort of element.

Vor year
Qui gon Jinn
Qui gon Jinn

No according to obi wan’s physics it is the high ground

Vor 2 years
Dom
Dom

It's so all about the high ground

Vor 2 years
JLight2r1
JLight2r1

High Ground well then the 8-9 ft tall Sangheili Warror apparently wins because their size gives them the high ground .Just saying.

Vor 2 years
Alif K
Alif K

Ok boomer

Vor 2 years
Vincents_obsession_with_Halo
Vincents_obsession_with_Halo

Aren’t you dead,or u doing the force ghost thing cause in the Area 51 files your force ghost escaped?

Vor 2 years
AÃÅĀÀÁÂÄÆ
AÃÅĀÀÁÂÄÆ

Assassin Sword no it’s a Star Wars Reference

Vor 2 years
Nicholas De Sousa
Nicholas De Sousa

If we’re talking function and design, wouldn’t lightsabers having an adjustable blade length tend to give it an edge in a “real” fight where instead of an exchange of blows, the fighters are just trying to hit their opponent?

Vor 6 Monate
ITS_ME
ITS_ME

GAME THORY: “We cant physically make lightsabers” Make it real:*walks into frame*

Vor year
First Name Last Name
First Name Last Name

Some issues being design: if you really want to compare two items also consider the way they’re used. It’s comparing the armor on a horse to the armor on a human. Lightsabers are designed for and by force sensitives NOT for regulars. A more legitimate comparison ( in spite of the change of material) is a vibro-sword. Also known to be very destructive to flesh, but also much more commonly used by non force sensitives. If you really wanna get nit picky on the lightsaber though, some can extend and shorten blades, and sometimes are rapidly deactivated and reactivated to bypass an enemy weapon. I do think that in actual war the lightsaber has a huge advantage. But for pure dueling purposes, it just depends on a lot of other factors.

Vor year
Grant Rogero
Grant Rogero

first i did fencing for a while, so i understand how cool it is. also i feel like maybe the elites have some sort of like, charger gloves, as the only characters we play are master chief (Non-Elite) and the Arbiter (Lower-Tech Armor) Maybe this explains how the Elites have pretty much infinite swings.

Vor 10 Monate
Kyle Wileman
Kyle Wileman

Just remember guys, the energy sword is also a key.

Vor 4 years
Flaming Gaming
Flaming Gaming

@Cipriano Loreto that wouldn't work. You would need to destroy the lock at the side

Vor 2 years
Parker Anson
Parker Anson

@Noisy Ninja didnt caboose say that?

Vor 2 years
Parker Anson
Parker Anson

#redvsbluereferences

Vor 2 years
Mechanus Gaming
Mechanus Gaming

Dammit tucker

Vor 2 years
Deep Chungus
Deep Chungus

You stick it in people to unlock their deaths

Vor 2 years
Turtle Turtle
Turtle Turtle

But the energy sword still has two solid blades and the light saber can cut through a bunch of solids

Vor year
Gabriel Herman
Gabriel Herman

Elite: locks lightsaber in energy sword Sith Lord: *“let me introduce you to a little thing called the dark side of the force”*

Vor year
SHC Demolisher
SHC Demolisher

Elite: ENOUGH OF YOUR MINDLESS BABBLING!

Vor 2 Monate
cheese
cheese

@Ember Someone who gets it. And also the fact that the energy sword is much easier to use. yes all the weight is also in the hilt for the energy sword, but you hold it in your fist. so if you aren't trained in using weapons you can just use the same movements to punch someone and you will still be able to kill them

Vor year
Ember
Ember

@cheese And also the fact that the Lightsaber's weight is on the hilt and shaped like a stick which means a Non-Force user will have a lot of trouble holding one because of the weight distribution and due to the fact they're not connected to the force. And also the reason Force users never cut themselves with their own lightsabers is because the Force stops them from doing so.

Vor year
cheese
cheese

@Just Some Random Minecraft Floating Sand like the person before me said, we're talking about the weapons, not the users. The users are normal people with the same skill. You can use your dark side argument when normal people can use the force aka never

Vor year
Just Some Random Minecraft Floating Sand
Just Some Random Minecraft Floating Sand

@cheese oh really? I call the dark side

Vor year
Alasda Paslay
Alasda Paslay

But the energy sword lacks mobility, could u swing a thing like that with death a few millimeters away from your fingers? Also this isn't meant to be hate, just a thought

Vor year
Kingapplejuice1
Kingapplejuice1

In the halo games, the weapons' power are weakend so that the game is more fun, for instance, the olasma rifle would be able to kill a marine in 1 hit in universe. And we see in fights in books and cutscenes that the energy sword can survive a frew more than 10 hits. It is also 10 successful hits that hit their opponent, so by then, they should be dead.

Vor year
Darc Kap27
Darc Kap27

The colors of the lightsabers come from the kyber crystal. Edit: There's also a few lightsaber-RESISTANT materials in Star Wars.

Vor 2 years
SHC Demolisher
SHC Demolisher

@Joseph R3grET cortosis (or however it’s spelled, I know how it’s said, it’s said in the first Kotor level before you enter the bridge of the ship you start on.)

Vor 2 Monate
Nathaniel Matava-Brown
Nathaniel Matava-Brown

well there's that buzzy baton that that stormtrooper used in episode 7

Vor year
DashLashBoy
DashLashBoy

StarCrest Actually no. In the lore, green lightsabers are for users that prefer to use the force rather than all out battles. And blue ones are for the more warrior type of users.

Vor 2 years
AÃÅĀÀÁÂÄÆ
AÃÅĀÀÁÂÄÆ

Like a SiloBeast Skin

Vor 2 years
Swaggalicious
Swaggalicious

They can’t cut through force fields

Vor 2 years
Thor
Thor

The Energy Sword's battery is a gameplay aspect. There isn't a single instance of it running out in lore.

Vor 7 Monate
Dum Bass
Dum Bass

Don't forget the elite has a shield on it's armor so the elite can actually take more hits

Vor year
Luke’s Lense
Luke’s Lense

I’d actually love to see this as a film Star Wars versus halo light saber vr energy sword

Vor 2 Monate
Failaka79
Failaka79

The energy blade might win if the saber uses the hand cutter technique, but what of the saber uses another technique?

Vor year
Funkymonkey
Funkymonkey

Mat: "Instead fights, if they did happen, had one or two clashes of steel at most". Soresu: "Am I a joke to you?"

Vor year
swanson2830
swanson2830

@Ember That's all well and good (and I do mean that seriously; I enjoy sharing information), but what bearing does that have on the scenario this thread is centered around? We aren't talking lightsaber vs lightsaber fighting, nor are we talking force users wielding the weapons in question. As you've stated, it requires Precognition to use the form properly; that would limit utility if not automatically disqualify it from use in this scenario, as the criteria is real world physics and no force abilities or respawning

Vor year
Ember
Ember

@swanson2830 I was only proving a point that it can be used in Lightsaber duels.

Vor year
swanson2830
swanson2830

@Ember any dueling form of Soresu was a modification of the original form. It was notably lacking in offensive ability compared to other forms and invented to counter blaster wielding opponents. Additionally, if the form can't be used without Precognition you've strengthened my point here, as force abilities don't exist in the real world.

Vor year
Ember
Ember

@swanson2830 Soresu was also used in Lightsaber duels, the most notable Soresu user being Obi-wan Kenobi who used it to defeat General Grievous and Anakin Skywalker. Note: The fighting style Soresu is only possible through the Force ability Precognition.

Vor year
swanson2830
swanson2830

"In the real world, without force powers or respwaning". Soresu was created to counter blaster fire, and is impractical if not useless in a duel in the real world. If a professional, modern swordfighter using real-world single combat tactics doesn't get to 10 clashes before contact is made, it's quite reasonable that if these weapons were in a real-world duel scenario they wouldn't be able to use that form effectively, if at all.

Vor year
Mr. Anonymus
Mr. Anonymus

Fun fact: The lightsaber has way more destructive power than its given credit for. The Death Star is pretty much just a lightsaber that ignites itself into a planet.

Vor year
Joshua garside
Joshua garside

I think the lightsaber works of a crystal so in my theory it's just a non- fiction crystal that makes a unidentified beam of light

Vor 5 Monate
Elliot Hellyer
Elliot Hellyer

In halo 2 the sword uses 7-10% of its energy per hit, except for on flood units, which is consistently 2%

Vor year
Matthew Smith
Matthew Smith

But we know what causes the different colors in lightsabers. It is a kind of special crystal in the hilt.

Vor 6 years
Myles
Myles

Ok

Vor year
Azucena Rodríguez
Azucena Rodríguez

It’s called a Kyber crystal and the sith corrupt their kyber crystals making them red

Vor 3 years
potat man
potat man

a kyber crystal to be exact

Vor 4 years
Zet Cake
Zet Cake

Matthew Smith SCIENCE

Vor 4 years
Shaggydog619
Shaggydog619

Mr. Illuminati no the sith have to corrupt the kyber crystal to bend to their will because the kyber crystals are alive

Vor 4 years
itsGuy
itsGuy

Also, the halo one allows the user to close the gap very quickly with the boost of speed

Vor 4 Monate
Magical
Magical

Should this be in film theory because of Star Wars or should it stay in game theory because of halo?

Vor 4 Monate
Citris
Citris

Imagine the energy sword with the battery of a lightsaber

Vor 11 Monate
ThatSandSoft
ThatSandSoft

Game Thoery: Energy Sword is more superior than the lightsaber in combat. Hmmm, Death Star powered by kyber crystal, and the kyber crystal is the energy source for the lightsaber, so technically Death Star is a massive lightsaber.

Vor Monat
Raccoon Boi
Raccoon Boi

The problem is lightsabers are directly tied to the force, so really without the force a lightsaber can't work

Vor 4 Monate
Comedy Dave
Comedy Dave

if the lightsaber blade was trapped between the two blades of the energy sword they could simply retract the blade for a second

Vor 4 Monate
Storm Shadow
Storm Shadow

Same thing can be done by the energy sword, which is why its not as important of a detail.

Vor 3 Monate
Alex Beau
Alex Beau

I have to say that the shape of the hilt would probably be the most important thing. If the wielder of the lightsaber hit the flat part of the energy sword it would all be over

Vor 25 Tage
Connor Kent!
Connor Kent!

A lightsaber can be wielded much like a traditional sword. While the energy sword would have to be handled in a certain way, akin to using something like a Pata or an oversized Katar.

Vor 28 Tage
Michael Aiyedun
Michael Aiyedun

"Don't pull a deathbatle on me" I laughed to hard to that

Vor 6 years
Olympyss
Olympyss

You can if you and the opponent swing and hit at roughly the same time, its called sword blocking. You can even do it with a melee in halo reach

Vor 6 years
AceStriker
AceStriker

+cave gamefan Yes it would. just you can't clash swords in the Halo game

Vor 6 years
Merok
Merok

+The Game Theorísts TheorÍst? almost.

Vor 6 years
Olympyss
Olympyss

+The Game Theorísts but matt the energy sword doesnt lose energy if you clash swords olny if you make comtact with an organism

Vor 6 years
Taylorman
Taylorman

Wait, technically, couldn’t a lightsaber go trough the center and cut the persons hand in two?

Vor 11 Monate
AverageDamian
AverageDamian

Knowing that hacksmith made a lightsaber, makes this, I dunno how to explain

Vor year
TWO_point_0
TWO_point_0

I feel like the theorists have been turned into an all out civil war on lightsaber or energy sword...

Vor year
makucha77
makucha77

You’re forgetting something, the wrist protection around the energy sword may work if it was blunt, however since the beam can cut through anything all the lightsaber would have to do is put a little weight on the end and physics would tell you that the wrist would be amputated.

Vor 5 Monate
Kolby Is a penguin
Kolby Is a penguin

Ok ok in halo lore an energy sword lasts more than 10 hits it's just a gameplay thing to have 10 hits and in halo 2 it had unlimited energy

Vor 3 years
Myles
Myles

@Adam Z true

Vor year
Sangori TV
Sangori TV

Thatonepug, you can turn the energy sword on/off. Look when someone pulls out an energy sword in the halo games.

Vor 2 years
Derek Prime
Derek Prime

Plus in game the swords don't lose energy when they hit each other

Vor 2 years
Baka Gitler
Baka Gitler

sub2pewds it had unlimited energy in pvp

Vor 2 years
Ethan Taijeron
Ethan Taijeron

This is true the energy sword in halo lore can last up to 3 day before you can recharge it

Vor 2 years
Zedan Mcdonald
Zedan Mcdonald

um, the lightsabers could go through solid extra terrestrial blast door metal, but the energy swords can't pierce any metal objects in the game, we have to think here, what if the lightsabers are higher temperature plasma than the "cool plasma" energy swords.

Vor 5 Monate
Cryptotugboat 77
Cryptotugboat 77

Canonically the energy sword has infinite swings

Vor 7 Monate
Dark Chaos
Dark Chaos

But you forgot the dark saber that is basically a laser sword

Vor year
Jeff Hirsh
Jeff Hirsh

whenever i think of halo these days i can't get Red vs Blue out of my mind. it's like i see Red vs Blue as canon and Halo is the spin-off which is completely opposite to the truth.

Vor year
Daosof
Daosof

Also elites must have a specific technique of attacking with energy swords. They have way more than ten swings.

Vor year
Unagam1
Unagam1

if we look at the width of light sabers in the rebels series, the "blade" of the light saber is so thin, it could probably pass between even the smallest gap in the halo energy sword, and cut the hilt in half.

Vor 6 Monate
Darth_Birb
Darth_Birb

The battery in the covenant weapons can last multiple DAYS in the books and movies. The games plasma weapons would be completely overpowered if they lasted that long in the game.

Vor year
Jan Veselý
Jan Veselý

"10 swings may be more than enough for our elite to finish off a saber-wielding Rey." Are you kidding me? A blind bee could finish of a saber-wielding Rey without breaking a sweat.

Vor 3 Monate
MicManGuy
MicManGuy

Ironically, the Energy Sword is better for Duels, but the lightsaber is better for armies.

Vor 6 years
sev
sev

I think it’s the opposite

Vor 2 years
Datboihashtagnoscope Pixelolxdhah
Datboihashtagnoscope Pixelolxdhah

1 dislike wtf???

Vor 2 years
The ultimate, one and only Youtube cooking channel
The ultimate, one and only Youtube cooking channel

The energy sword is good against itself

Vor 2 years
Veronica Stanson
Veronica Stanson

The lightsaber was better for both and especially dueling as seen in almost every movie.

Vor 4 years
Wytster Games Wytster Games
Wytster Games Wytster Games

or the aliens would eat the jedi I've played too much halo

Vor 4 years

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