Every Johto Pokémon Game Freak Forgot

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MandJTV
MandJTV

I made a weird error in this video and said Shadow Lugia was introduced in the same gen as Lugia, something I know clearly not to be true. I am befuddled and ashamed, but you can make me feel better by buying merch hahahahahaha https://mandjtvmerch.com/

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Julie Lerma
Julie Lerma

You know the band kiss.❤🎉

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GRM
GRM

@George André Veloso Nunes ❤❤

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Beenevolence
Beenevolence

Noivern is my favorite bat

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Crystal 🔮 Throne IMAX Theaters 🎭
Crystal 🔮 Throne IMAX Theaters 🎭

nice vid brody, i liked & subscribed hey can u pls make a video on Pokemon MMO 3D (free to play, Open World Unreal Engine)

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yokaifan58
yokaifan58

Hey Mandjtv, can you please do this type of video for every generation please

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collettiville
collettiville

For what it's worth, Ariados was gifted a signature move in Gen 7 that would actually be a pretty solid move if given to a pokemon with better stats.

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Bulborb87
Bulborb87

@poopy pants well not every pokemon is going to be good as they can't all be world beaters, also we're always going to be getting regional birds and rodents, early insects, a pikachu clone, a pseudo-legendary, box art legendarys and starters every generation as those are standards

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poopy pants
poopy pants

This is one of my biggest criticisms of Pokemon, the amount of Pokemon out there that just have terrible stats and are completely useless because of that is fucking annoying. That and I hate the regional archetype thing. We don't need 8 versions of Pidgey. Talonflame was the only one that had any amount of creativity to it.

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Jumping Spider Jesus Freak
Jumping Spider Jesus Freak

@HE’S coming soon My brother in Christ, why are you posting this on a thread about spiders? (Also, LOL, this is the most interesting use for a bot I’ve seen. Kinda sleazy though.)

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Bulborb87
Bulborb87

@Melon that it does because it doesn't learn Toxic Thread until level 63 which is way too late for something so horribly weak

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Melon
Melon

It also learns this way too late, anyone without the patience of a monk has already boxed the spiders well before it learns that move and anyone with that patience will be underwhelmed by the move after taking so long to actually get it.

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Lex Smith
Lex Smith

I really wish they would bring back the “baby Pokémon in the wild have 3 perfect IVs” thing. It really gave an incentive to catch and raise them.

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robert lupa
robert lupa

@Василий Мельник Gen 6. To be precise, any wild Pokemon in the "Undiscovered/No Eggs" group would be guaranteed tp have at least 3 perfect IVs. This was presumebly done to make getting competitive-ready Legendaries less painful, but a side effect of this made Baby Pokemon (which can't breed either) be affected by this too.

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Василий Мельник
Василий Мельник

In which gen it worked?

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Preddy-O
Preddy-O

I mean, while that is nice in a way, a huge issue right now is that baby pokemon cannot breed, but are the result of breeding regardless of incense. Due to baby pokemon being much more common and a lot easier to catch, I kinda get the IV thing, but on the other hand, hypertraining kinda replaced that.

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Alouette EXE
Alouette EXE

I can actually see Sunflora's potential to evolve. I'd like to imagine Sunflora's evolution being a Grass/Fire type because it's a "sun" flower. Kinda like if Volcarona was a flower.

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Rubywing4
Rubywing4

@Jorge Emilio Well, yeah, I guess maybe the only logical way of evolving again after something special like a trade or an item is to do it with another trade or item, since those don't depend on levels.

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Jorge Emilio
Jorge Emilio

@Rubywing4 Not with a stone, but Porygon evolves with a disc into Porygon 2, and using another disc again evolves into Porygon z, so theres precedent for that

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J Murray
J Murray

Happy I used the oval stone so I could see that being a counter argument Though I raised one for the deck and I’ll tell you what those things are a pain due to friendship

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J Murray
J Murray

Just babe it a twin sunflower

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Joey3264
Joey3264

This would make an interesting option for a sunlight teammate

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UnderseaRexieVT
UnderseaRexieVT

It's worth mentioning Unown did get a buff in Legends Arceus by changing how Hidden Power worked. Now it's not just one type, but it picks a type the opponent is weak to. That's a pretty giant buff, considering that's Unown's only move.

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LJK401
LJK401

Amazing how much PLA fixed

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PickleTheFloof
PickleTheFloof

This is the story of how I got an Unown to carry my team.

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UnderseaRexieVT
UnderseaRexieVT

@A Really short Brontothere No Pokemon has Hidden Power in S&V. It doesn't even work if you were to transfer a Pokemon in, currently.

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A Really short Brontothere
A Really short Brontothere

Spiritoumb.

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UnderseaRexieVT
UnderseaRexieVT

@Max Welton536,329 Non-existence? AFAIK it's not in SV at all.

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gab_gabriel
gab_gabriel

To be fair, Meganium was given a lot of focus in New Pokemon Snap and was even the mascot for that game's gimmick

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Myself
Myself

​@Joey3264 chikorizzta

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Joey3264
Joey3264

Im one of the few players that like the chikorita family, id love a grass/fairy legends form❤️ (change celebi to a grass/fairy while were at it)

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Felipe Bórquez
Felipe Bórquez

Ash-Greninja is available through the Pokémon SM demo so...that was the truly first case of a starter getting a unique form while the others didn't

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Linhardt von Hevring
Linhardt von Hevring

The only thing Chesnaught and Delphox have gotten since X and Y was Braixen being playable in Pokkén Tournament, which hardly counts IMO.

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Youtube-Kit94
Youtube-Kit94

Yeah, that was weird to say "First time in Pokémon history where one starter got a new form and the others did not" Greninja in gen 6 got literally everything served to him on a silver platter and Chesnaught and Delphox got shafted about a hundred ways to sunday. Imo, those two by far are the most shafted starters in history, not getting any new forms, not having any treatment, be it special or not, being both completely and utterly overshadowed by the gen 1 starters getting megas and being shoved down our throats *and* Greninja getting absurd anime exposure, a new form, a busted-ass secret ability (two if you count its other form) and so on and not being obtainable in a *single game* since X/Y, literally. You only can get them in S/M/USUM by trading them in from a game (aka X/Y) and not any way like other starters with island scan or something, you can't get them in gen 8 and gen 9... oh wait, you can. Guess which one. Yup, Greninja. The Johto starters are a case of generally not getting enough exposure until Typhlosion got some with its Hisuian form, but imo Chesnaught and Delphox are the starters that truly drew the shortest end of the stick when compared to its compatriots. Gen 5 also will have super shafted starters until the gen 5 remakes, to be clear. But even they were playable and obtainable in more games, having a pair of games and their sequels. Delphox and Chesnaught don't even have a third version.

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Leafeon
Leafeon

15:19 also giving Shuckle an evolution means that Shuckle will be able to use an Eviolite, making it's defenses even more insane

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AmyTransGaming
AmyTransGaming

921 Defense and SpDef Shuckle? Yeah, that'd be insane.

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Null Point
Null Point

@Eeveefan 1 20 base HP, oh god that's bad...

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Null Point
Null Point

@Eeveefan 1 Defense is meaningless without enough HP. Give me a moment to check Shuckles stats.

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Cpt Haxray
Cpt Haxray

@Joseph Hsu To be fair, Shuckle already has near the top level defenses, but its HP stat being so poor is why it is a terrible wall. Tossing even more defenses on it would likely not break shuckle with it's bad defensive typing, as its not fixing the Hp problem.

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Saiyan254
Saiyan254

Yeah and power trick makes it super strong

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clydae
clydae

I would love to see Noctowl get the Dark typing. As a kid I remember hoothoot being so exciting because it was the first pokemon you could encounter that only spawned at night, something that wasn't present in the first games. I just thought that was so neat, so I think a Dark typing would be a nice nod to that.

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robert lupa
robert lupa

I can't really see Noctowl as a Dark type. It looks a bit scary, sure, but it doesn't strike me as "malicious" or "one that doesn't fight fair." Oh you meant that it's a nocturnal Pokemon? Yeah, no, that's not what the Dark type is about.

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CoffeeFlavoredMilk
CoffeeFlavoredMilk

A cool idea I could see is pulling a Lycanroc and having its evolution have forms with unique attributes based on time of day, though in this case typings. One is Dark/Flying, One Psychic/Flying, and maybe one Ghost/Flying. Yes two of those overlap with Oricorio which also has alternate forms but I think you can something different with Noctowl. Also I dunno I just think the concept of a "day owl" Pokemon kinda amusing in a way given its an inverse of basic animal biology.

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476233
476233

That’s such a good point!

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Eaglest05
Eaglest05

Honestly Xatu is another one that would work really well as evolving into a ghost type. It already spends its time gazing into the past and future, you could give it like a "While trying to solve the mysteries of the past and future, this pokemon neglected its wellbeing in the present. Now that it's evolved, it's practically become one with the flow of time. Do wrong by it, and you might find yourself fading out of existence as it prevents your parents from ever meeting in the past."

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Game Man
Game Man

Now that would be neat.

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Ofir Soroka
Ofir Soroka

God...

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Jarrod Nisly
Jarrod Nisly

Idea for Xatu evo: Xanatu (based off the concept of Xanadu, but following the naming convention of its pre-evs) Ghost/Flying After having gazed into the future for so many years, it was finally able to peer into the afterlife. What it saw was so shocking, this pokemon passed away due to shock.

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O Tom das Pelúcias
O Tom das Pelúcias

THANK U THANK U THANK U THANK U IF THIS HAPPENED IT WOULD BE FOR ME THE SAME REACTION OF ANNIHILAPE

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Wouldn't Ghost/Psychic be better assuming that it's not a bird anymore?

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Lord of Keks
Lord of Keks

Cool concept. Kinda like annihilape who got so angry that he died

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Semudara
Semudara

Reminds me of how Gothitelle will have visions of how the universe ends and just casually shares them with other Pokémon. xD

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mati gamer 329
mati gamer 329

I think Skarmory didn't get a new evolution is because it would make Skarmory hold the eviolite, which boost the defense and special defense by 50% but only works if the pokémon can still evolve. Add the fact that it's only weak to fire and electric and its high physical defense and you get a Toxapex 2.0.

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Ofir Soroka
Ofir Soroka

That can be a Rhydon vs Rhyperior 2.0 because you can give Skarmory eviolite and make it insanity bulk, but he has to hold the eviolite while it's Evo can hold other items

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CoffeeFlavoredMilk
CoffeeFlavoredMilk

Eviolite Skarmory vs Skarmory evolution would basically be Chansey vs Blissey 2.0 if all they did was just make the Skarm evolution have better defenses or w/e. I think they should go a route that sets the evolution apart to give a reason to use one over the other. Think Porygon2 vs Porygon-Z. Maybe give it a lot more offensive pressure, change the type even. I remember one time I saw someone make a Fakemon evolution of Skarmory that was, of all types, Steel/Dragon.

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Buldrahil Gaming
Buldrahil Gaming

Im not really in favor to give Unown a new form myself, but it came to mind that they could make an "exodia" form. So if you have them all they could fuse together making a really strong, big pokemon with all letters. It would still just know hidden power though, but would have an intense increase in stats. Would also give you some kinda trophy to collect them all.

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JCDragon2819
JCDragon2819

I always thought Unown should have gotten its own exclusive Z-Move based off of Hidden Power that deals super-effective damage to all types regardless of combinations and abilities.

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Cameron Naylor
Cameron Naylor

Call it "Rosetta" named after the Rosetta Stone!

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Ujjwol Chaulagain
Ujjwol Chaulagain

Lugia and Luigi sound like they could be two box art legendaries.

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Stephanie Beckman
Stephanie Beckman

How about Mario and Luigi

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Story
Story

I GAVE THIS COMMENT 666 LIKES MUAHAHAHHAHAAA

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Gabriel Tirado
Gabriel Tirado

It’s loogie

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Hank Peterschmidt
Hank Peterschmidt

@Ignochomp99 I think Luigi could be dark type…

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Mark Anthony
Mark Anthony

@Mr. Kirby Mamma Mia.

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Maurice Sakelsek
Maurice Sakelsek

Ever since jumpluff got in my scarlet team as a meme, but ended carrying my team, it will always have a place in my heart

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Ofir Soroka
Ofir Soroka

I wanted to use it, but I was locked on Spregatito and also got a Flechling

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Alex McKee
Alex McKee

Yeah I was surprised at how good Jumpluff is in Violet. I caught a Hoppip for old times sake never having actually used it it properly in GSC, and in Violet Jumpluff has become one of my favourite Pokémon to use.

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Abhi P
Abhi P

Lugia is the ultimate legendary along with Ho-Oh. Nothing is more ominous and exciting than those two in silver/gold. So mysterious and mystic and natural. Not a motorcycle, not a robot or alien, not a GMO, just a straight up flying creature from the depths of the ocean with a killer soundtrack

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alphabet soup
alphabet soup

I was genuinely surprised Sunflora got nothing in gen 9. Especially since it had a focus from the grass leader. It could've absolutely gotten a new Evo in Scarlet and Violet.

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Anisuperketchup77
Anisuperketchup77

If ledian were to get an evolution, just make its attack stat crazy, and buff its speed a little bit. The signature move could probably be a bug type punch move, so it could make iron fist worth it.

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Elmar A. Hannah
Elmar A. Hannah

I'd love an evolution for Sudowoodo that has decorated itself with leaves and vines and is now a Rock/Grass type since it has incorporated enough plants to actually count as a plant. Kinda like how Bulbasaur and Paras have things growing from them and therefore gain the Grass typing.

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Quaid Reynolds
Quaid Reynolds

I know you counted getting the fairy type as special treatment for azumarill, but its also worth mentioning the fact that it was given the ability huge power in gen 3 when abilities were introduced. That plus the physical/special split in gen 4 made azumarill so strong. It's just been getting better and better over the years

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Ofir Soroka
Ofir Soroka

It's like wine: the more time passes, the better

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Otis Cluck
Otis Cluck

@RequiemKale yeah it’s so useful when it immediately dies after using belly drum

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A&A Kwok
A&A Kwok

@Quaid Reynolds belly drun+huge power=shred

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Quaid Reynolds
Quaid Reynolds

@Brent Robinson it had both huge power and thick fat in gen 3, but at that time all water moves were special so they were unaffected by huge power. In gen 4 there was the physical/special split so moves like waterfall became physical and could utilize huge power

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Brent Robinson
Brent Robinson

It had huge power in gen 3? Are u sure. I thought it was only thick fat in gen 3 but in gen 4 he got huge power which started it getting buff and better

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Khail Rosil
Khail Rosil

A lot of the mons had an upgrade via the introduction of Hidden Abilities. Xatu was used because of Magic Bounce, Feraligatr was given Sheer Force and was able to acquire Dragon Dance. These, for me, were good upgrades.

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Joe Lara
Joe Lara

If they could make a Jhotolegends showing you how the tower burns down that would be cool. They could add in extras such as Xatu having an evolved form, feraligatr as a dark and water, or ground and water and Meganium with a Grass poison typing, while possibly adding adding in a starter from a different region to cover the 3rd pick. They could also add in ever evolutions with that due to the focus on eevee in Jhoto

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Kayla Metcalfe
Kayla Metcalfe

Mikey, Your light-hearted tone, goofy comedy, and dedication to loosely following the scientific method have brought much joy to my house. My partner and I have both been struggling through a rough time and putting your videos on helps us feel more hopeful. Thank you so much for your content

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Shivur
Shivur

The lore behind the creation of lugia is enough for me. I absolutely love lugia and once I found out the story behind it I'll never complain about lugia never getting extra attention

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Hydros Phagus
Hydros Phagus

16:51 Speaking of regional form, imagine an Australian Pokemon region where Octillery becomes Water/Poison based on blue-ringed octopus.

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Ir0n Leviathan
Ir0n Leviathan

I’d love to see Lanturn get a regional variant that’s Ghost/Water, having it be a guide for the souls of people who die at sea. A regional evolution on top of that would be awesome too.

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J McK
J McK

@court I said that EXACT same thing when I read Leviathan's comment 😂😂 that idea is so sick

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Minh Cao
Minh Cao

Give him a Fire/Water regional would be better for me.

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creepi boi
creepi boi

@court for real.

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Rhodu
Rhodu

Maybe in a Greek region! As the farer to the underworld!

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PIXEL TERRABYTE
PIXEL TERRABYTE

Unown could have an ability similar to wishiwashi or zaygard, but it only activates if you have collected them all, just imagine you being beaten up by a cluster of Unown

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erik rocha
erik rocha

In all honesty I feel that Jynx does deserve a evolution since magmorator and electavire do exist within that trio

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Semudara
Semudara

Jynx absolutely deserves an evolution. Something kinda based on the Baba Yaga, I figure?

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Fahim Tausif
Fahim Tausif

For Ledian's evolution, I have an idea of going the Maushold route. Just have 5 of them with different colours. Lediam seems to have some Kamen Rider inspiration, so it would be cool for its evolution to have some Super Sentai inspiration. Also POWER OF FRIENDSHIP.

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Sam Perez
Sam Perez

You can also use Shadow Lugia in Pokémon Go, which is also weirdly connected to the mainline for trading. It's specially important because it was probably the inspiration for the concept of all shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Go. Shadow Lugia could be seen as an upgrade to Lugia from a DPS perspective too. They should just make it canon as the alternative form in the mainline games since it has appeared in two pretty prominent spinoffs.

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Dragon Strike
Dragon Strike

3:01 “Pidgeot being the only one to get anything” *Corvinight has left the chat*

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Namkwal
Namkwal

well... thats also the only generally actually great pokemon in gen 8 so

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Addison_V_Ertisement
Addison_V_Ertisement

Personally, I've had an idea of Octillary evolving into a giant pirate ship that's also a giant squid, with canons under its suckers. I gave it the water/steel typing, and named it Kalarmada.

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Addison_V_Ertisement
Addison_V_Ertisement

@Ignochomp99 Yeah, a kraken is basically a big squid.

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Addison_V_Ertisement
Addison_V_Ertisement

@DARIO GOMEZ LOPEZ Why not? All Moody does is lower one stat and raise another.

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TwistedTaco
TwistedTaco

HELLO??!?!? THATS SO COOL?!?!?

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KhaanMan66
KhaanMan66

It’s already close to a Kraken so I think that next evolution could work. Make it water/dark typing because of the kraken being terrifying for sailors.

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robert lupa
robert lupa

@Prof. Reuniclus Light that burns the sky is pretty much a nuke.

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Khal Draco
Khal Draco

17:40 Mantine did get a stat buff in gen 7, going from 65 base HP to 85 so not entirely forgotten

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Sam
Sam

Unknown should DEFINITELY be part of a fetch quest like Spiritomb of gimmegouhl. Except in stead of collecting items or talking to people, I think you should have to catch one of each form of Unknown and then bring each one to a pokemon researcher. S/he will say "You have made a complete catalogue?! Oh Please would you give them all to me for research purposes? You would not be able to get them back..." If you say "Yes" then the researcher should let them all out of their balls at once, leading to them all swarming together in an orbit around mystical glowing energy (like in "Pokemon the Movie: Spell of the Unknown"). the researcher should then state that this pokémon is too strong for him or her and ask you to take it back. Thus you can receive the Unown- complete form. This should actually have good stats and a move pool to reflect their immense power.

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Kingo_Clubs
Kingo_Clubs

Great video michael! Johto is probably the least forgotten gen overall, but id love to see videos like this with other (early) gens.

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Byrdmaniac
Byrdmaniac

Mantine exactly gets the upgrade you asked for in Radical Red, where it is an Electric/Poison type. It's a pretty good mon too, with Storm Drain and solid stat distribution & movepool.

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Bloody Static
Bloody Static

I hope that when Game Freak makes a Michigan-based Pokémon region, there will be a dark-flying type Blue Jay Pokémon because Blue Jays in nature are really big bullies, both figuratively and literally and they scream at the top of their lungs in order to drive other birds out of the feeders.

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Testekill
Testekill

Wynaut was actually really important to making Wobuffett usable as it lets Wobuffett learn Encore which is huge since it takes away the need to predict what attack the opponent is using.

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Prasanna Bhat
Prasanna Bhat

Well that is true but they could have added encore to wobuffett. Atleast it is good for wynaut memes

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White Rabbit
White Rabbit

Please stop the human sacrifice at the particle accelerator laboratory.

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Joe King
Joe King

Yes

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Honda Accord
Honda Accord

I'm sure you already have ideas, but I was wondering if you could rate how well the original gen 1 mini sprites fit the actual Pokemon they're based on? Gen 2 as well, if you're feeling bold 😊

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Cola Girl143
Cola Girl143

I know that gen 7 is in the past, but imagine an Unown Z-move that acts like no retreat and an actually good psychic attack But it can only be used on Unown-Z

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KittyMations
KittyMations

I used a Lanturn named Flicker on my main playthrough team of Shield, it was the first pokemon game I ever played beginning to end and I used the exact team all through the DLC as well (with the exception of replacing my Thievul with the gift Silvally from the battle tower). It's not my favorite pokemon but using it on my team definitely made me grow a soft spot for it, so I'd definitely be down to see it get some love. And, funnily enough, it stood out the most from the rest of my team, being the only one that had dual typing, a non-attacking move, was not in a regular pokeball, and was the last addition to my team before the champion. And surprisingly, despite its "meh" stats, it did manage to pull through for me in some really tough battles so I have Flicker to thank for that! If I were to use that same Lanturn again it'd be nice to see it get a well-needed upgrade so it can continue to be awesome.

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Fishyboi
Fishyboi

I'm hoping they make a lot more Paldean forms for the dlc

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Mr.Pokemon
Mr.Pokemon

I think a fun regional form for shuckle would be flipping it's offensive stats with the defensive ones

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SpaceSaturnArts
SpaceSaturnArts

I just saw a reddit post about how Furret should have a pop star evo, like a counterpart to Obstagoon, and I think thats a really fun idea. It could get a normal/fairy regional form

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Jarrod Nisly
Jarrod Nisly

I love this

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Callum loader
Callum loader

@Lumalee! primarina is better looking to me then the ugly final forms for sobble and quaxly. I also like it more then greninja (but I know that’s unpopular)

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Connaeris
Connaeris

Oh yes that would be so cute

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TheLuckyGamer
TheLuckyGamer

@Lumalee! yes.

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Lumalee!
Lumalee!

Do we need another Primarina tho….

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Chucho E. Quintero
Chucho E. Quintero

I don’t know if you’d count it as an upgrade but Forretress got access to Body Press in gen9, making it super dangerous 😮

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SilverPumpkin
SilverPumpkin

You mentioned how giving Sudowoodo an evolution/regional form would change too much because of its theme, so i think giving it a Convergent line would be perfect! You'd be able to make another sudowoodo without changing the original sudowoodo!

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Katie J
Katie J

I think a shuckle evolution could totally be done. I've seen plenty of fanart out there of it and even drew one myself. Made it also fighting type and called it ShuckleDuster.

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Vincent Visser
Vincent Visser

Dude you stepped up your game with this video. Quality, humor, great editing too

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IntrepidSword
IntrepidSword

Polities actually got a huge buff. In gen 5 It got the drizzle ability, summoning rain when it enters the field. Since weather was permanent in gen 5, Politoed skyrocketed in usage as the only rain setter. Later, however, Pelipper would outclass it in this role.

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Beta Bee
Beta Bee

I feel Ledian actually has the highest chance of any early route bug to get something. It just feels like it has more potential than the others

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13th FullMoon
13th FullMoon

Maybe they could give it an evolution inspired by the power rangers. Maybe give it steel typing and make it a special attacking counter part to Scizor!

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Fahim Tausif
Fahim Tausif

@robert lupa I actually commented something like that. But you beat me in timing.

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Cameron Lapp
Cameron Lapp

Ledian is one of those Pokemon I get excited catching in playthroughs but end up boxing when I check Bulbapedia :( I remember it being good? Mandela effect?

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Nagg
Nagg

It feels like they accidentally swapped its special defense and attack. Like why 110 special defense when you have IRON FISTS?

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robert lupa
robert lupa

Super Sentai Ladybug! WOOHOO!

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Parasaurolophus Z
Parasaurolophus Z

The only upside I can think of for baby forms is they let some Pokemon be encountered earlier than they normally would and give the satisfaction of getting one more evolution as you play. It's neat to, for example, get a Pichu at the start of SuMo and work with it to get it to Pikachu instead of just getting a Pikachu right off. Azurill is another one like that, and I remember catching one early on in my Pokemon Y game to use as my Water type in a playthrough. Better example might be something like Smoochum, since Jinx is almost always caught super late but Smoochum could be placed in the wild early, or Igglybuff, which you can get super early in SV, but Jigglypuff normally is an early/mid encounter instead of a route 1 encounter. It's not a lot, but it's one purpose for baby forms, I guess!

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Nick Linn
Nick Linn

Sudowoodo could evolve into a felled sequoia or some other large tree, which gives it the ability to block a path pushed with strength. Wobbufet could see the “tail” aka the Pokémon itself become the main body and becomes more offensive based.

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The Mountain's Crest
The Mountain's Crest

Azumarill and Marill both got Huge Power as an upgrade in Gen 3. Arguably as important as the fairy type upgrade imo

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Dustin Walls
Dustin Walls

There’s a reason Rowlett, Oshawott, and Cyndaquil were the chosen mons to be starters. Each of their names hold a feudal Japanese reference in which Legends of Arceus was built around- feudal Japan. Not to discount the lack of love chikorita and todadile got but there were reasons.

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Spazzy
Spazzy

I broke my hand recently and watching Mikey’s videos made my day better, thank you for being an active and entertaining poketuber for years 😊

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Alec Holloway
Alec Holloway

I know they already had the dialga/Celebi time travel stuff in the mystery dungeon series but it just makes so much sense to tie them into scarlet and violet DLC with time travel being such a focal point of the games. Dialga is already featured in Legends Arceus and could be a great way to tie that in and Celebi could be used as a way to explain bringing the paradox Pokemon to the present

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Beep boop
Beep boop

It's certainly interesting to think about, but I disagree with it making sense. Dialga is from hisui/sinnoh, which is based on Hokkaido in Japan. Celebi is also from a region based on a place in Japan. Scarlet and Violet take place in what is very Spanish/Portuguese. The looks and feels of Dialga and Celebi don't fit neatly with the region. The time travel machine fits much better, both in the story and as design. A product of a professor becoming obsessed with learning more about this strange place and it's past/future, which has become out of control and sucking more and more pokemon from other times into the present. And aside from that, it would be really weird to have a legendary Pokemon from a different region play a main role in games that take place in a completely different region on the other side of the world. Legends Arceus and the mystery dungeon had legendaries play a role in the story where their home region is (near), so that was much less jarring

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Glitchtopia
Glitchtopia

Sunflora should require a moonstone to evolve into a weak gloomy wilted kinda flower that when sunny day is up, becomes really powerful with amazing stats and moves.

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Toady
Toady

I always liked the idea of a regional Noctowl that looks like a snowy owl and is Ice/Psychic. Hisui would've been a great opportunity for that

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John Smith
John Smith

Forretress is a perfect candidate for a paradox form. It could be called iron blaster or iron cannon

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UprisingCanadian
UprisingCanadian

Vileplume and Bellossom were honestly perfect candidates for Megas, and I could see them being a really good regional form, or even version-based plot, like how Gordie and Melony were seperate gym leaders in SwSh. Bellossom probably could have done well as a standalone Pokémon such as Stunfisk or Absol though.

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Little6 [小さな六]
Little6 [小さな六]

I think a cool Ledian getting a variant with the typing of bug/fighting would be cool and help its ability

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Suomi Kirby
Suomi Kirby

A teeny-tiny thing Meganium got recently, is that it's the mascot Pokémon of New Pokémon Snap and was one of those special Illumina Pokémon ...but I guess that's not much. Anyways, super fun video! I hope you make more of these for future generations! :)

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Armuks
Armuks

Came down looking for this comment. I agree. True, it's not a new variant or mega, but it's still something. And yes, Snap wasn't made by Game Freak, so technically they did forget, but someone remembered. I think it deserves at least an honorable mention.

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Cyberchao X
Cyberchao X

Yeah, that's true. Meganium hasn't gotten any love in mainline games but it was an Illumina Pokémon and was featured prominently on the box.

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unbindall
unbindall

@R - G - C ​ Being a box legendary doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the mascot. In advertising, and even on the box itself, Meganium is treated as the main showcase for the Illumina phenomenon, treating all the others, Xerneas included, as spoilers. So yeah, mascot.

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R - G - C
R - G - C

It's not even the mascot (that would be Xerneas), it's just kinda like a midboss.

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Adam Morin
Adam Morin

I think he means in the main line generation games

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Michael Deypalubos
Michael Deypalubos

I always tell myself that all original 151 Pokemon (or atleast one in each evolutionary family) will have a new form (regional variant/mega evolution/ gigantamax) or an additional evolution before the franchise ends, but I hope Johto Pokemon will too.

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Pitaya_Is_Cool
Pitaya_Is_Cool

It is worth mentioning that lugia got a really playable card in the tcg that was so good that almost every non lugia deck in tournaments was a lugia counter deck

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Gallifreyan Warrior
Gallifreyan Warrior

Also, in regards to Unown... it needs a new moveset , as it only knows Hidden Power, and that move is not in Generations 8 and 9 (maybe 7 as well )

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Travis Friedrich
Travis Friedrich

Magcargo’s evolved form can be done through a metal coat trading. Also, imagine if Smeargle gets different VARIANTS based on “creative” occupations. Like a defensive smeargle variant that can “cook” up new moves.

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cameron sims
cameron sims

I honestly thought sigilyph was going to be the evolution to zatu since it was released and still would make sense. They share similar move pool, inspiration in design and roles in battle. Only sigilyph is more powerful in use

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Seanzy Man
Seanzy Man

I actually think an evo for Octillery could work really well. If you give it the same treatment as Dracopult where it can use Remoraids like guns it can pull out. Make it an armory of sorts, have it evolve into a squid even. So more tentacles, Remoraids stored in its body, and then it would come full circle with the whole "gun fish" motif.

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Ben
Ben

@Batgames89 Because Remoraid is based on an Archerfish which shoots water. Octillery is based on an Artillery/a tank. It uses its snout/mouth like a Bazooka, hence Octozooka. It’s ability is Sniper. Why would they turn into swords instead of bullets.

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Batgames89
Batgames89

@Ben why would they suddenly become guns?

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Ben
Ben

@Batgames89 why would they suddenly become swords

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Batgames89
Batgames89

Renoraid swords. To be unique

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xS3t0x
xS3t0x

@Enrique III el Laberíntico yooooooo that's a name I can get behind

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Erebos
Erebos

16:58 we already have GMAX Blastoise as a naval supercraft turtle/tortoise. Having an aircraft carrier turtle would be a bit redundant and likely get overshadowed by GMAX Blastoise if it happened too soon

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Ise no Kami
Ise no Kami

I recall nicknaming my Ledyba/Ledian “Ledrior” a few times, and somehow tricked myself into thinking Ledrior was the name of a third stage. For that alone I’d be down for giving them a new evolution.

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FrogWithStyle
FrogWithStyle

I think a good change for wobbufet (aka a regional form) is a wobbufet that is an extremely frail but really hard hitter that is really fast.

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Mohamed Hamed
Mohamed Hamed

for jumpluff, its not too bad though, because it has sleep powder and it has potential to be really fast if paired with a torqoal. it also learns tailwind and pollen puff, two amazing supportive moves (I really like pollen puff because its a very versatile move). it makes for a surprisingly good support pokemon if you can get it to not die. just set a harsh sunlight and give it a focus lens so it can hit sleep powder, and that's a potential strategy. still though, if its not 100 percent accurate, its not accurate at all, so yeah, sleep powder will be difficult. comment possible counters though, I'm always trying to improve.

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Parp
Parp

Dragonite getting multiscale was great though. People overlook hidden abilities.

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TyplosionAttack
TyplosionAttack

Delibird and Stantler getting evos/forms has made me so unbelievably happy. Two of my favorite Pokemon. I also love both of Donphony

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robert lupa
robert lupa

> Donphony

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Taylor Perchase McCarthy
Taylor Perchase McCarthy

@AustinSPTD1996 Iron Bundle is close enough as it’s very explicitly a future Delibird, while it’s not coded as a Delibird it is for all purposes a new form of Delibird, just under a different dex entry

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AustinSPTD1996
AustinSPTD1996

Delibird never got any new forms.

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TyplosionAttack
TyplosionAttack

@Bulborb87 True... But it's also my favorite region

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Bulborb87
Bulborb87

i mean Johto is home to a lot of pokemon that are underwhelming

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Mr. Banana
Mr. Banana

Every gen 1 Pokémon that got ignored is my favorite Mandjtv vid of all time and I’m soooooo happy you made a sequel

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Animosity
Animosity

I use ladian a lot in Pokémon stadium 2, if you transfer it into your game with a good move set it’s actually quite viable, you can go the spore route and use it as a stall Pokémon and just sleep, paralyze your opponent. You can also go with sunny day and solar beam direction along with giga drain and correct me if I’m wrong but I think it can learn fly and even hyper beam

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d4c_reznor
d4c_reznor

Gamefreak may have forgotten Lugia, but the card game certainly didn't.

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Focus Objectives
Focus Objectives

Feraligatr is my 2nd favorite Pokémon behind Squirtle. A regional variation would be absolutely fantastic.

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Anime King
Anime King

I always been a fan of Ledian and Lantern too. Not gen 2 but I would love to see an Evo for Lumineon hopefully it looks like mix of Dragonair Milotic. Jynx needs an Evo too.

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Kate Lundberg
Kate Lundberg

I can't believe I was gaslight into questioning whether Tropius was actually released in gen 2 and I just wasn't realizing it since, like Skarmory and Magcargo, it fits in almost better with gen 3 than gen 2. I had to look it up to realize that Tropius specifically fits better in gen 3 because it was released in gen 3, the other 2 were just kinda unutilized in gen 2 and more prominent in gen 3

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Yamil Diaz
Yamil Diaz

It would be kind of interesting if they gave Ho-Oh and Lugia a third legendary counterpart. I always saw Ho-Oh as representing the Sun and the Sky. While Lugia was more of a symbol for the Moon and the Sea. Also one was associated with the Beast Trio while the other was related somewhat to the Bird Trio. So a third counterpart bird embodying the Earth as both the planet and the element could work and maybe make it relatively associated with the Swords of Justice Trio.

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Cindy Helms
Cindy Helms

Firstly, I'd like to mention Mantine DID get special treatment in Gen 7 with the Mantine Surf minigame… And trust me, Crobat was definitely the center of my attention when I was trying to complete the Arkoos Pokédex…! Had to catch the stupid guaranteed Alpha one cuz the Golbat I was trying to evolve refused to be my best friend!

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JFL Estudios
JFL Estudios

I think you forgot about the Kalos Starters. Greninja got his Ash-Greninja form, while Chesnaught and Delphox got nothing. And yes while Ash-Greninja technically doesn't exist in Scarlet and Violet right now, it still is another case of a region's starter getting a new form while the other 2 got nothing.

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Angry Bord
Angry Bord

You must do Hoenn next! I think everyone is suprised that Milotic got nothing all these years.

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UltimateMustacheX
UltimateMustacheX

Gen II is my favorite gen, so I agree with all of these, though a few of the "get a new evo" I'm not sure about, just because I like the current form so much. Noctowl is my favorite flying type and Ledian/Ariados are both fairly high on my bug list. Then again, my favorite stage in a line is quite often the middle stage, so this would just keep that trend, assuming the new final stage didn't hook me as much. But then I'm stuck with lower stats if I want my preferred stage. Crobat is my favorite pokemon overall, so I'd like to see a cool regional form for it. But since Sneasel and Quagsire's (other top favorites) new forms were less appealing to me than their normal form, I'm assuming I'd be disappointed in the new bat.

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Misk-ivus
Misk-ivus

As a person who loved Misdreavus, you could imagine my excitement seeing Flutter Mane in Area Zero having never heard of it before playing the game.

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Londlock
Londlock

Also, Flutter Mane is a Ghost/Fairy type. Meaning that after all these years, Mimikyu is no longer alone.

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Looth Hussain fazeel
Looth Hussain fazeel

IMO a cool idea for a skarmory evolution would be an apex predator that can easily take down corviknight. I also think it should lean into the whole "feathers like swords" thing

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Rikoyasha
Rikoyasha

12:55 kinda think for unknown would be cool to make it a collectible like Legends and once collecting them all they form into a new viable pokemon. They got rid of hidden power effectively, making it usless in battle, so having it be part of a collectible role almost like Gimmighol sounds cool, and we kinda see them used to create things

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Amelia 411
Amelia 411

DO NOT LEAVE OFF THE U IN GIMMIGHOUL!

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yesUwatchingME
yesUwatchingME

I'd love to see a new evo for smeargle, keeps same stats (maybe even lower all stats except for HP or something) and giving it a new ability were after it uses a move in it's move set it switches the entire moveset into a secondary moveset and after using one of the moves in that set it switches back. Call it "Palette Swap". Would just love to see it do something wacky with 8 moves but might be completly busted ahah

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TURDY_ WATER
TURDY_ WATER

I think it'd be cool if Unown could evolve if you had every form and maybe some item. Could turn into a book since it's just letters, maybe with more Unown swirling around it

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Norman plays songs
Norman plays songs

I see you won't be doing forgotten pokemons for Hoenn any time soon. Like Johto, if we wait a little longer, we might get more evos and forms for the weak and forgotten ones.

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justin julian
justin julian

To play devil’s advocate for baby forms: they DO allow trainers to get Pokémon previously overlooked or previously rare a lot earlier(such as sudowoodo and snorlax…..though munchlax’s debut was anything but common) While the baby forms are DEFINETY not upgrades, they make up for it by making trainers discover Pokémon a lot sooner

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Mark Anthony
Mark Anthony

Why did they make Munchlax nearly as hard to find as Glameow?

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Spectre Dan
Spectre Dan

@Sentient_ TypeWriter won’t deny that, yeah.

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Sentient_ TypeWriter
Sentient_ TypeWriter

@Spectre Dan Chingling would be fine if they also added an evolution to Chimecho, a similar situation to the Roselia line. Could have used the Shiny stone as an evolution item too, or even one of the held trade items

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Spectre Dan
Spectre Dan

@Connaeris chingling, too, is pretty useless. Especially when the same generation released Mime Jr, which is infinitely more interesting and capable as a battler.

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Connaeris
Connaeris

Exactly! I think the best example of this was Budew in gen 4, which could be found before the first gym. It's a shame they didn't do it more often with some of the others though. It's quite pointless to have to wait several gyms to catch a Pichu or a Mantyke for example. Oh, and also Azurill should not exist.Marill is absolutely weak enough to make it unnecessary.

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fl00fydragon
fl00fydragon

What they could do with unknown is to finally use them as we see them in the lore: as a way to "bend reality" by collecting and arranging them to cause something impressive to happen.

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Jared C
Jared C

Gen 2 introduced so many cool pokemon, but so many either sucked in battle, or you just couldn't find them in a casual playthrough of the region. This is why I so want a remake of the Gen 2 games in some way, and with an interesting spread of the pokemon from that region so you can use them on your journey

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Dan Sitrus
Dan Sitrus

I will pick Chikorita in my Gen 2 playthrough. I am currently playing through Gen 1 (for fun and research), but once I get to Gen 2, I am picking the grass starter. I will fix the Injustices Chikorita had received. I will prove it is a viable starter.

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Que Aye
Que Aye

Meganium should be a grass dragon they need to add wings and it would be dope. Imagine a grass dragon who knows fire blast or solar beam . I think that concept would be dope. And I love dragon pokes

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armageddon287
armageddon287

I am a massive fan of unown so would love to see it get something to make it usable. A paradox form I think could work would involve them being the thousand arms of Arceus and behave like a swirling vortex, think the heartless tornado in kingdom hearts.

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Ay
Ay

You can continue the series "___ type: then versus now"(or something like this i don't remember). I think fire type can be pretty interesting, because it's type chart changed twice(with steel type addition and fairy type addition) and things like Charizard and his attention (megas, gigantamaxes etc.) And fire/fighting starters trend could be worth mentioning.

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Jeffrey Gao
Jeffrey Gao

Plus those Pokémon are so hospitable, warm hearted, and beautiful too!

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Max Etten
Max Etten

Furret is the only early route normal I used on my final team during my first playthrough of a game. I think ferrets are cool.

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Zeturic
Zeturic

This video reminds me of a thought I had a while back. Pseudo Legendaries are always 3-stage Pokémon in the Slow experience group with a 600 BST in their final stage. The most they've ever done to mix up the concept was a regional variant Pseudo Legendary with Hisuian Goodra. If they wanted to mix things up, one thing they could do is a cross-generational evolution that retroactively turns an existing 2-stage line into a pseudo-legendary. There are tons of examples of 2-stage evolutionary lines in the Slow experience group they could do this with, such as Lanturn and Houndoom (incidentally, Mega Houndoom actually has a BST of 600, but sadly it's not a permanent evolution).

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