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You need to use dynamite to bomb the center canal to hold more water it will help alot and won't go dry as fast

Can the floodgates be placed on platforms RCE? Because if so you can place the floodgates directly next to eachother with the most inner being highest and have the next one's top be just above the previous one's bottom.

@@rendingoni4369sadly nope. Neither can dams or levees.

RCE manages his beavers like most middle management in IT manages their employees: everything is critical priority until it suddenly isn't.

I'd laugh if I wasn't silently crying in the corner. Absolutely correct 😄

I would like to give this more than one like.

Same problem in video production here !

Haulers: what must we prioritise? Matt: everything Haulers: but which must take priority? Matt: yes !

That reminds me of my last job as software engineer. Everything had highest priority, so I just choose whatever is that I wanted to do and my boss always got mad that I did the "wrong" things.

He also didn’t prioritize hauling as a job, meaning that when he increases his log pumping capacity, his hauling goes down, causing his log pumpers to pump less water. He should only prioritize long distance trips if he can, and have two hauling posts, one on highest priority with needed haulers (as much as needed for long distance trips), one on lowest for unemployed beavers to increase general efficiency.

This reminds me of every manager ever. “Everything is high priority.” They would never appreciate it when you then told them what that means, “so you mean that nothing is a priority”. This game needs some more management tools like ranking and stacking of priorities so RCE is not surprised when no one is farming.

I understand it though, I have had the exact same issue in colony games. People seem to ignore certain jobs when you try to make a legitimate hierarchy of importance but get to everything eventually when they are all just most important.

just did a separate comment ab this but i think a project manager mechanic in the priority tab would be absolutely amazing. grouping builds and being able to prebuild huge projects would be pretty helpful (at least for how i play)

Are you going to finish the giga dam this time or are you going to be an architect again

Damnnnnnnn

He is totally gonna be an architect

Shots fired!

Hopefully his brain gets upgraded

How dare you. He is obviously just learning how architects think so he can fix it.

matt: runs out of logs also matt: consistently drains the water next to the quick growing trees so he can't get logs quickly

How long until he notice?

Honestly the biggest issue i see is the commute. The distance between house and workplace looks very long. You should look into reducing that, by path optimizing or making a new district.

Or, having houses on the other side so they can work in nearby workplaces.

He needs more houses too

I don’t think beavers prioritize jobs near their homes. However, covering his water storage in platforms should allow him to put a straighter path, with more stairs to the front of the dam.

Well I just made the houses on tom and kept climbing up when they got high enough made a descent down to the city center down a medium storage

You should flatten the bottom of the lake to store more watter

But that would mean dynamite production. He can work on that later.

Bigger lake, more water, and explosions? what's not to love. Dynamite is pretty easy to get going once you get the smelter online too.

Once he grows vertical with the food then he have the room to build everything he needs for dynamite

i like watter

Matt you need to get rid of the dam at the end of the river an move it one space inwards or you’ll lose more water again

He will never remember this 😅 But we can watch him suffer more this way. Hm... 🤔😂

Today on Timberborners, will Matt continue to call quite small dams mega/giga? Stay tuned to find out!

i mean compared to the map size

There’s a 1-tile gap between the waterfall and the closest log pumper. Consider adding a path of platforms to the other side of the waterfall/reservoir to reduce the pumpers’ commute.

No build a bridge instead, more efficient.

@@IceWolfLoki Oh yeah, you're right... I totally forgot that bridges are a thing in Timberborn! Shame on me 😅

Try prioritizing logistics next episode. It's amazing how big difference it makes if the beavers don't have to walk for so long between each task. Try placing key buildings like food and water between the beavers' home-/workplace :D Also shortcuts n shit

In this map it is really helpful to use explosives to bomb out the central canal so it can hold more water and doesn't dry out as fast.

That’s probably on his list next And maybe terraforming because there’s that one hill with dirt but the golems and stuff will take a lot space

Dynamite production causes injured beavers, and requires paper. He should build an engine first for his power needs. He should also stop using beech for wood, as it is the least efficient source. Finally, deepening the canal causes it to water a smaller area when the level drops below the original one. So you keep the core around it wet for longer, but at the cost of the rest of your farming area. This map is also not very deep. In practice, though, with everything being so close to one another, this map is not really hard.

best way is to bomb out one block strategically here and there,or put 2 levee blocks in a corner as a start.

I wonder if these beavers have the irrigation tower and if you put it in the lowered channel of it will cover the plants so when it is too low you have the irrigation tower on platforms a level or two higher and you can start using them after the river doesn't have the required level anymore

A smple solution without having to build out a ton of extra industry forst would be just lining the river with levees

How long is it going to take before RCE realize that if he builds levees along the river banks the river will be deeper and take longer to dry out?

Watching RCEs progression in games is so funny to me. It’s like evolving, but backwards…

"it's all about practicality/min/maxxing efficiency" >increasingly cares less and less about min/maxxing

I know that you've probably been told this before and this series is almost certainly pre-recorded, but you don't need the corner pieces on the dam. Water can't pass through two diagonally connected dam pieces, it's just a visual quirk. Replacing the dam pieces with platforms will let you build faster and store significantly more water.

He knows and has commented on it in a previous episode I think he forgot though

⁠@@rendingoni4369that but also aesthetic purposes, as the corners are glitchy and do make it appear as if water is flowing trough when there is not.

Whoah, RCE has discovered priority levels other than "very high"? 🤯

Thank the beaver gods for Timber-Thursday Been waiting all week for this!

I’ve been doing a build on the same map and have a couple of tips for you. Build a tall but narrow dam right next to the waterfall. Can store enough water for a 30 day drought in there. Also use levees and water dumps to make 1 square sized water tanks in the middle of the dry areas. Much more room for planting crops. If you use the terraces you can build a storage tank with 5 levees.

I think you need to download the sketchy logs mod (not compatible with the ecological planks mod), it's mid to late game usage with how much resources you need to overtake the forester and loggers (even if you can technically start using it early game)

It's a bit of a shame that dams are only 3 tiles high in the base game; however that's where water pumps and irrigation towers come into play. For Iron Teeth you should consider setting up a water pump to pump water out of your Giga-Dam at the end of the drought.

You don't even need more than one flood gates. Build one and then build the wall as high as you can. The incoming water comes is faster than the water flows over the gate. It will keep flowing even after the drought starts because of it stacking up during the rainy season

I think a bridge from one half of your dam to the other (right in front of the waterfall) would be a great place to build a bridge connecting the two halves. Would save a lot of time for your beavers heading to the Log Pumpers. Also, a trick I've learned with the dams in this game; using a single Flood Gate instead of multiple makes it a lot harder to flood your river. Just use the normal dams beside them, and you're good.

you should aim for explosives to make the pit deeper in the reservoir. explosive could also help with organizing the different levels of your water storage and base. maybe even hydropower.

At this point, I am only sustained by the energy from new Timberborners themes. It's like Nif-Tea for my engineering soul.

Nothing puts a bigger smile on my face than coming home from work and seeing a new episode of Timberborners.

You have a farmers hut right on the edge of the map that only covers a fraction of your fields (often the first to dry out) so you may as well remove it. Also it's useful to have a small or medium water tank next to pumpers so they don't have to walk far if haulers don't get to them. (you are building a large tank now which is fine but the smaller ones could have been built earlier). Lastly you have trees in your woodcutting area that are fully grown but not being cut. Are they highlighted / within range?

All the beavers are well behaved this episode. None were sent to the pain train.

Prioritizing pump for haulers can greatly increase their output assuming you have enough haulers, as the pumpers will never have to leave their workplace to deposit water.

The timber born intro always makes me smile and gets me in a genuine good mood

Using a small map to make your dams look bigger is like... I enjoy the videos, great work!

My personal design I use that might be useful on this tiny map has power generation on the river, then the shafts going *over the top of* paths for farms and foresters, bridges across the river going around the wheels then, anything that doesn't need to be on irrigated ground (housing etc.) is away from the main water source. i usually also later use water dumps to put showers near the housing, but that's a more late thing that i do once other infrastructure is satisfactory

i think an absolute massive dam across the map to save more water could be a good idea if you find away to limit the amount of already exist farmland you have being destroyed, having all that water stored up could green up and unlock some of the other higher parts of the land also.

From the path next to the large water tank, make it a GIANT box level with the top of the waterfall. Use those crazy metal sluice gates that you Chekhov's Gunned us with.

I think they need is list pages where you can look at the priority of everything and then some arrows so you can move things up and down the list- even within the priority categories. Basically, it would be a full on list that lets you put every item in priority order. When it pops up it should be on the side of the screen and each item you highlight should be highlighted on the map.

How would that work, though? Every single beaver would work on the item on top of the list first? That would not be a good allocation of labor. I think it makes more sense to allocate jobs by %. So you could specify 40% builders, 20% haulers, etc. To increase priority, you'd up the percentage.

And so the quest continues to get Matt to finally move the water egress dam one block inward to reduce water loss, and to build at least one "shortcut" across the water so his beavers don't spend half their day on the road... Tune in next time to see that Matt most likely still ignores both even though it's mentioned by countless people on every Timberborners video...

Matt: "Can we get some coffee on the go!?" Spiff: "I find your lack of faith (in tea) disturbing..."

Thanks for the daily uploads. Gives me something to look forward to each day going through engineering school

A humble suggestion and a firm thank you @RealCicilEngineerGaming You should make a bring of scaffolding under the waterfall source area to allow quicker access to the pumps and water, have it at the path point by the Iron ruins and go north under the water to the pump, you have just enough space for this and will allow more beaver range. However, thank you for the content, it is always appreciated!!

Haven't played this in a while, so I'm not sure if this would work, but could you put a normal dam down and then put flood gates in front? That way you can just keep building up the reservoir

Try switching your damns with single level levees so that you can store more water in the lower areas when it is almost drought season. It's been working for me

Constructive Feedback: You leave it on fast forward too often to get time lapses or while considering how to progress your build strategy, so they're all exhausting food, water and wood supply before you have a chance to see it in the decline.

Awesome Video. I guess you should focus on dynamite beacuse then you can get your water inside of the Dam deeper. 30 Days droughts are hard af

I have an idea, just make the river one higher that way the water last longer along the antire river so it doesn't dry up as fast. And then you can use the mega dam as a water storage like ya been. Just an idea

The best way to beat the drought is to build a dam with only one flood gate. Then build the walls as high as you want. The water will flow over the flood gates, but not as fast as it flows in and will stack up. It's an easy way to keep a lower area irrigated.

I've been playing this challenge for the past week or two - what really hits you after a while is the lack of space for trees, as lots of the late-game stuff uses up planks or uses logs as power.

Focus only on your 30 days trees, as they are the most efficient. I had no issue on this map, even when flooding the last part to have the same level all the way around the river. Though it will be more of a challenge if you go for golems, as they require a lot of resources to build. I was happy leaving it at all welfare things except the mud bath.

I feel like Matt is doing good so well because the small maps reduces the chances for overzealous structures.

one of the things I do to get the most out of the water wheels is to force it through a small area, greatly increases the CFM and thus the HP per wheel

If you put the second row of floodgates on platforms directly behind the first row, with one height overlapping, you should be able to let water out all the way down and store it all the way up

Should probably add a catwalk over the gigadam reservoir to drastically reduce travel time to the new pumps (currently dark red)

I think farmer priority is best set to planting. If you prioritize harvesting they won't plant new crops until everything is farmed, and then you have a hole in your food income at some point, it may take a bit longer in the beginning to plant everything, but then you also easily see that you need more farmers if a lot of crop is standing on the fields. (don't prioritize harvesting for those because then you won't use the space as efficiently...)

why'd we have to wait so long for another timberborners episode? its one of the few things l look forwards to each week! also can you make the episodes abit longer? like 20 mins longer? thanks much appreciated. down with architects all hail our fuhrer real civil engineer

I think that map would be nice for a elevated branching aqueduct system.

Why did it take so long! Great video! Keep making more timber born videos please!

For the smallest map, you almost seem to be doing basically one of the best (apart from when using mods)

I think it might be helpful to have a multi tiered dam that can go higher. Or go deeper.

Why not make a dam that goes along the river, so the river itself can hold more water and the pumps at the bottom are on it and platforms over the water? You could also try to make branch off of the river to expand the area you can plant. I would suggest trying to move building for manufacturing to the higher level.

I feel like running the water intensive farms in the tower when you have Unlimited Water and stocking up on food and then turning them off when you are on tank only supply is a possibly good idea

You should dynamite the high parts within the giga damn for even more volume of the water held within

Put dams or flood gates on the top of the mountain so you can keep a bit more green on the map.

Regarding priority and cutting the kohlrabi i think it would be neat if there was a “project manager” menu of sorts. i like to prebuild a lot, especially early game, and having the ability to group a number of jobs of varying priority and then set the priority of the overall project without having to individually click n drag would be super cool. in this case “giga dam” and “landscaping“ could be two different projects and in the moment our engidaddy needed the kohlrabi cut to make room for the farmhouse he could reduce the overall priority of the dam for a few moments and re-up it once they are picked. the other jobs in the landscaping project tab would then be set back to whatever priority they were before and if RCE had something like the recovery of demolished stairs in there and a huge dynamite build he could set the stair recovery to very high and the dynamite to high (or VV) and then up the priority of the project if he needed quick logs but still have the dynamite project underway. alternatively give us a priority slider so we can set builds to x% and micromanage EVEN HARDER

While dams are, of course, wonderful and useful, it's critical to store as much as possible of that water in tanks, as the water evaporates from the dam. This means that during droughts you ought to continue pumping those logs as much as possible, then irrigate the crops with the irrigation building (I forget what it's called).

The ultimate proof that sadly RCE doesn't seem to read the comments its that he STILL havent moved those glitched dam pieces on the end of the river

You can use a platform and put a flood gate on top of that. Then put another floodgate behind it. This can allow you to make the floodgate much higher

“How can I get more logs?” as he pans over the logs from demolishing the log pumpers pumps 😂

Don't eat up half the map with a reservoir. Dynamite the floor of the gigadam reservoir flat and also put a scaffold path against the waterfall cliff to reduce travel time.

I think a small map might have made it easier for you cause there is less space to get distracted. Next time largest map on hard!!

There’s been a disturbing lack of bridges this season 🤔

I can't be the only one who sings along at the beginning of every Timberborn video XD

I want to see Matt play a season where his only rule is he can’t use the priority button haha

Build a bridge in front of the waterfall, that will make the route to the new pumps much shorter! Not to mention that it will look nice.

my favorite series is back with one more episode !

Next season you should do custom difficulty with drought from 8-64 days

maybe build a shortcut near the waterfall to the pumps. should improve the paths from red to a bright green

Yo should make a path through the waterfall so the haulers and the pumpers have a shorter path. You could use a BRIDGE, that would be more optimal

The fact that you're still planting birch... how very architectural of you

You can increase capacity by removing corners from bends on the dam wall.

imagine they add a stress mechanic into the game where the beaver's wellbeing drops if you high prioritise everything

You need to get engines going, but that requires you to fix your wood. You can fix your wood by centralizing it all in Oak and maybe planting a small section of Pine for the oil. You have too many redundant jobs. 3 foresters on this map is insane. Also, check your permissions on what can and cant be cut, it looks like a few of your oaks are out of range or not marked for cutting. Consider turning the backside of the map into an infinite energy source using wheels and water pumps. Switch to Golems as soon as you can for some jobs like water pumping and wood cutting so they only take small breaks to recharge and then work through the night. You need to dynamite your reservoir deeper and make it more square as well, deeper is better than wider considering the game factors evaporation off surface area. Consider removing your farming areas and centralizing them around small pumps with 1 water blocks as well to make use of space better.

You could use dynamite to increase straw length and Increase the volume of water stored.

Do floodgates work when they're underwater? I think you could make a floodgate system that reaches the full height of the dam rather than just three blocks with clever use of levees and whatever the name of the block that can be built on and also lets water through is. Unless levees can't be built on top of the other block that I can't remember, you could have a hole in the bottom of the dam with a floodgate just behind it in addition to the floodgates at the top (or completely replacing them if they work underwater). If there's levees at the top of the floodgate it should just work, right? (I've never played the game, so I don't know the mechanics. Please tell me if I guessed any of this wrong)

There is so much free real estate on the left of the map. I can't believe the series got so far without a mega giga ultra bridge!

on this map dams are actually not that good, the best way to manage water is to keep planting grounds green with water dumps in just one block, and store all the rest of the water, that way you also don't risk things drying up

I would love to see an end with no river left. Just the dam and food sky scrapers, maybe a tiny overflow outlet on the side.

From the side os the new pumps you should build a path, close to the waterfall, to minimize the journey to the barrels as well as close a circular path liking the whole colony

Connecting the pumps to the ruins

What i do when there's a hefty building project is set up a logistics network. Builders can't carry as much as haulers because haulers have their carrying capacity doubled. Thus, i set up a small storage or two with planks and logs. I set those storages to obtain and the main storage to supply. This will mean that haulers will bring logs and planks to those small storage units. Then, what you'll see is builders going back and forth between the storage to supply materials to the worksite!

it wouldnt matter how many tiers of priority the devs added, you would only choose the highest for every task & job

I love real civil engineer, great work!😃

make paper and explosives factory and cfreate larger resorvoirs for your dam, and reposition the dams at the absolute end by 1 blocks in, and also replace the dams up the stream into floodgates

"Speaking of hairy beavers" Immediately cuts to Manscaped ad Never change Mat, never change.

Could you make the hanging gardens and farm vertically?

"Speaking of beavers, here's a word from our sponsor: Manscaped." I ain't even mad with such a smooth transition. Smooth. Get it?

Can you put a levee on top of a dam piece? if you can you can put a flood gate infront of that and have a drain hole at the bottom of a giga-reservoir

Singing at the start of the best engineering video ever, is such a architect thing to do!

They should probably make very low priority the default... not to forgive Matt's misuse of the mechanic, you can put things lower yourself to have more levels of high.

In terms of farming i usually have 2 farming huts one for harvesting and one for planting

21:25 you should consider actually making it deeper so you can store more water so depth over hight

I keep seeing people say matt needs to move the dam at the edge of the map one in and he never sees it. Guys we need to try harder.

I just wish he’d get a steam engine or non 8 beaver power source lol

Put regular dam pieces at the bottom so you can use the complete volume of water

you really need to start marking the farm and water pump/tanks as prioritized with the haulers

awesome, glad you did it to the pumps lol

Something I do is place platforms over my waterways for buildings (especially farms) that way you are not using up farmland

I've also built a lot over water that way, often the water pumps. Never thought to put my farms there, but that makes a whole lot of sense.