Critical Race Theory: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

jullit31
jullit31

As a German, not feeling discomfort during history lessons sounds like an utterly alien concept... Sometimes feeling discomfort is important.

Vor 11 Monate
Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

Another emotional MANIPULATION instead of talking about what's actually happening. Maybe "it's your tail showing" as the book said.

Vor 3 Monate
Fedoramaster
Fedoramaster

@TheTron08 lol not every country got told off as bad as germany did. Japan, for example, still has public shrines dedicated to known war criminals. As a history buff and a dropout, the educational climate towards history here is truly toxic. Like, if you went to Public school in the states, I can guarantee you you didn’t get anything important out of history class. I really hate to sound like some counterculture ass, but it really is almost like they intentionally don’t talk about the things that foster an anti-imperialist worldview.

Vor 3 Monate
Jasmine Peile
Jasmine Peile

@JanPan I think in most countries the vast majority of history class is focused on the history of the country it's being taught in. That's how it is in Australia. We never talked about Egypt or the Romans, just how horribly shitty out European ancestors were and still are

Vor 5 Monate
Elizabeth Sims
Elizabeth Sims

I consider myself one of statistically few who believe that history is the foundation of all other disciplines. I am pained by this German’s 💯 percent valid statement. Are Germans and people in other WW2 Axis nations the only ones supposed to be uncomfortable, unsettled, disconcerted, incensed, truly frightened by history? Everything is the past in reality. We need to study to know what is worth know so we can avoid the failures of the past, if possible , and learn from the successes. We humans must study history if we are to make the future better, not perfect but better(thank you President Obama for this wisdom). More than surviving and making life safer, history can help us enjoy life, think critically and what excitement history engenders in other disciplines. Scholars, intellectuals, people who think deeply about important ideas, laws, beliefs and knowledge, without bias, should be encouraged by every nation. I like what the German said—-in English. I deeply envy his obvious fluency in English and wonder why America did not teach us other significant languages in early childhood. Oh, forgive me I forgot those in power knew it cost money and we can’t spend precious money for some so frivolous as learning such irrelevant projects as learning German, French, Spanish, Italian, Latin and and old Greek. “If English was all that our Founding Fathers had to know well it’s all we need to know” oblivious to the fact that most of our worshiped FOUNDING FATHERS were bi and tri lingual and more.

Vor 8 Monate
Maximus
Maximus

read Tell the truth and shame the devil (by Gerard Menuhin, a jewish man) Should recalibrate your perspective.

Vor 10 Monate
AstralPhnx
AstralPhnx

"absolute trombone slide of a sentence" will live rent free in my head for the rest of my life

Vor Monat
Leslie Wolfe
Leslie Wolfe

Omg me too. I actually created a clip of it so I can enjoy it whenever I so desire 🙂

Vor Tag
Fex
Fex

As I saw a teacher tweeting another day: "If I was able to indoctrinate my students, they would be using deodorant and turning off their cell phones in class".

Vor 7 Monate
Lauv Err
Lauv Err

Lmao

Vor 3 Tage
The Stock Trader
The Stock Trader

Wow things sure have changed when I was in high school the issue was you couldnt go through the locker room without being maced by a shit ton of axe/tagged (spray deodorant).

Vor Monat
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

History should be taught in an unbiased objective way, that also doesn’t blame anyone today for things they didn’t do. History has been taught in schools for a long time, slavery, oppression, segregation…. If anything the only downplaying going on today in schools is the suffering of so many others across the globe and throughout all time. Slavery has existed for thousands of years throughout the globe. It has existed as a form of indentured servitude with some rights and a specific timeframe. It also existed as brutal slavery where minor infractions were harshly punished. That doesn’t mean the indentured servants always had it better. Sometimes their contracts were resold adding more years to their contract without their consent (so for example 20 years became 40 and if resold again even became life). Another way they kept indentured women for life is by keeping them pregnant and extending their years till they could no longer pay it off (I’ll let you imagine how they forced them to get pregnant). Something else to consider is in North America the majority of slaves were actually the Native Tribes/First Nations people until the mid 1700s. Then Africans and their descendants became the majority of people enslaved in North America until 1865 (that’s just over 100 years). Still horrific, still wrong but important part of history to know. In Africa itself people try to make slavery sound like people enslaved were treated as one of the family but this portrayal is far from the truth and the brutality of slavery was and is still today going on in parts of Africa. Other parts of the world as well still have slavery today. Another exaggeration often portrayed is that the Arab slave trade slaves were treated better but that is also untrue. Just one example only disproves this myth, which is their slaves were castrated. Europeans were also enslaved in Africa, between 1 million and 1.5 million were taken in the Barbary slave trade. The Vikings (as well as others) were known to kíll the slave when the slave owner died to serve in the afterlife. This idea that one group of people suffered far worse than anyone else isn’t true and just goes to show if anything American schools focus too little on slavery everywhere else and for everyone else. An argument for whíte privilege and teaching CRT specifically is an that argument is much better suited for the 1950s or 1800s but not today. The concept of “white privilege” was a poorly written hypothetical concept, not a peer reviewed theory. It was popularized by a pseudo-intellectual named Peggy Mcintosh, she was far from an expert on the subject she wrote about. I don’t disagree that systemic racism is historically real, nor do I make the argument oppression never existed but the concept of “white privilege” doesn’t accurately describe the events of the past (or take into account diversity of cultures within what we now call “white”). A better concept to describe systemic injustice is simply to say “oppression”. Throughout history, ruling elites and/or majority populations have oppressed the minority population and/or the poor. There is a danger that by talking about inequality as an all-consuming phenomenon, we will end up creating an inaccurate image portrayal that all people of one race in all situations and all contexts are benefiting from unearned advantages. When we talk about inequality, it’s important to understand that is not the status of all individuals from any single race, nor is it at all times. Another often overlooked danger is blaming all people of one race for all racial injustice throughout history. By virtue of birth an entire race is now responsible for the horrific crimes committed by some in the past. By virtue of birth, because of your skin color, your voice should now be silenced (you are not allowed to speak against violence in our communities)... and this isn’t racist?? Fighting racism with racism isn’t goIng to lead to a better society for all (a “we” society). Let’s also not overlook who is number one in income and education in the US, it isn’t whíte people. Which by your portrayal of our society (and others like you) should be impossible, instead it’s true that whíte people are not number one and disproves this notion that our entire country is set up where only one race is able to benefit. Teaching children that an entire system is against them or if they do succeed it’s because they had privilege undermines the very values America in fact does have. Where anyone can be successful and the only one that can hold you back is yourself. Want to succeed? Start with three things, get an education (don’t drop out of high school), two parent households (have a child stay there and help raise your child), and don’t commit críme(s) (especially víolent crímes). The same group that is number one in the US leads in all of these categories. Some bonus things are - if you do go to college don’t get a soft subject degree, get one in engineering or in a medical field. Set goals and raise your children with high expectations while allowing them to be children (be loving, kind and affectionate with your child)…. This is about teaching that success can be achieved by everyone. This is about teaching our society is “we”, not us versus them. This isn’t a fight about teaching history at all, this is actually a fight over keeping our children from being brainwashed into a myopic distorted view of the world today and of themselves. This is about teaching our values to our own children and teaching them they can be successful. That the only one that can hold you back in life is yourself.

Vor 2 Monate
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

What are you talking about? Our whole society today is being indoctrinated with specific narratives, that all whíte people are privíleged oppressørs and all Błack people are øppressed. All whíte people are innately racíst and Black peøple “can’t be racíst” (not even when an act of hatred or vīolence is commítted based solely on ràce). These narratives dividing us are in schools, workplaces, and all over social media; as well as many of movies/shows we watch.

Vor 2 Monate
Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

New teachers now are activists just like "reporters", they only care about that, not their actual job. Even CBS made a statement to everyone to not care about facts now.

Vor 2 Monate
Julius Heise
Julius Heise

I asked my parents to visit a former nazi concentration camp for my 14th birthday party, since we had lessons about it in history and I wanted to see for myself (other kids were mostly from the same class). Cake and GoKart afterwards - great day in many ways. In Germany we live with that past, and we learn to differentiate between guilt and responsibility, no biggie.

Vor 9 Monate
Jason Brown
Jason Brown

Yeah but do they tell you kids in Germany that you’re still oppressing the Jews even to this day?

Vor 2 Monate
Chris Thorne
Chris Thorne

@Anthony Williams Eh, my childhood would've been so much better without my narcissistic dad. Until I was 15/16 I thought scamming people, stealing, abusing people were all just normal things. The best thing he ever did for me was leave my life for good when I was 16. I wish it happened a decade sooner.

Vor 3 Monate
Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

Oh yeah, I'm black but lighter or "too-wyyyte" for many PPL in the hood, yet we were treated way worse in the Hood than the other side of town. The same for the parties. Only 1 told me I don't look _______ enough to be "allowed to speak" and it was the CRT people, not the right. Told I should vote like they say or "you ayynt ___". How can anyone say that and still get voted in? Other side didn't yell, no attitude, nobody taking the money and buying up houses instead of helping people. No, they treated us with respect. Or listen to them when they say I couldn't succeed because of my skin. Terrible thing to say to a child and sadly too common to teach kids to blame everyone else. That's why houses with dads do much better, dads teach SELF-responsibility way more often instead of emotion. I could always tell the kids with dads, they tried to stay out of trouble. This is really a "no dads" problem and the parents that blame everyone else. The same shade of PPL that come from other places do much better, weren't taught the attitude. Even when they grew up with dirt floors and no running water they do way better. Much friendlier too.

Vor 3 Monate
Chris Thorne
Chris Thorne

@Anthony Williams The whole country's a mess and it's not going to get better. America is built on an us vs them attitude. The right and left are too busy fighting each other in stupid arguments than actually making change.

Vor 3 Monate
Anthony Williams
Anthony Williams

Worse, they are misrepresenting MLK and the spirit of what he said. He fought to get rid of segregation, they brought it back at almost 200 colleges, he said to "judge by character and not skin color", they say everyone should be judged by their skin and "privilege". So going by that everyone is divided into oppressed and oppressor, told they shouldn't get along. Very sad. Look at 23:00, he's mad their isn't much racism there and everyone gets along, has to find someone to split up people. Very shameful.

Vor 3 Monate
Steven Kazanjian
Steven Kazanjian

I've never felt uncomfortable learning history out of guilt. I've felt uncomfortable because it's just uncomfortable to hear the horrific things people to do to others. I get uncomfortable hearing about the sick things going in Ukraine today. Kids should never feel "guilty."

Vor 9 Monate
Alexandra Henderson
Alexandra Henderson

@Omaroon that is called getting the government to fix the issues it caused.

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Rachel Clark There are so many knowledge deficits in History taught for Western academia. The entire Gilded Age is not even mentioned in American high school textbooks. Entire centuries of history skipped immediately after Slavery to focus on World War 2, but not covering anything past the 1940s, because the Soviet Union wasn’t a threat yet

Vor 3 Monate
Rachel Clark
Rachel Clark

@Aaron Landry yes, good point! There's so much evil in the world and yet we cover American slavery several times in school and never talk about the others. I feel that's so very shortsighted, especially when we expect non-American to know and be sensitive about American slavery. I wanted to learn new things in history and really understand other places and times better. Yet, most of my knowledge came from independent reading or stories shared by people from other countries. We went over American history several times, in my school career. We should have done a better job the first time and used the other times to learn the things that happened worldwide after ww2 outside the US. That was a major black hole. Also, anything that happened in Africa or South America that wasn't the slave trade. Total knowledge deficit. It annoyed me so much.

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@DameDench's kerchief What if there is no knowledge to be gained on White Privilege because it doesn’t exist? Racial bias is inherent to humanity as a species, as we are attracted to people that resemble our parents and fear those who look different, a stranger. What purpose does singling out white people for this serve? The exact same behavior is seen in every ethnic group from Brits and Scotts in Europe to Southern and Northern Japanese to Mandinka to Neuers in Africa

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

Why is it more important to teach children about Slavery and how bad it was if we never teach them that it happened around the world and is still happening today along with genocides like Russia to Ukraine, Belarus, and Crimea? Why focus so greatly on this relatively unimportant, America exclusive form of oppression? Why is nothing taught of the British’s oppression of the French or Indians? How about the Rowandan Genocide? Haitian Revolution? Polish history? These all receive no attention to blather on about Slavery from centuries ago. Why is this?

Vor 3 Monate
Hannah Norby
Hannah Norby

At 14, I had a teacher implement a lesson where students were randomly assigned into groups and assigned some task, something like picking up a piece of paper from a table in the middle of the room. A few students were randomly picked to be in charge of enforcing the rules. Some groups seemed to be getting severely dinged for minor infractions or no mistakes at all. Only at the end were we told that the "cops" had been told to target some groups and allow others to do what they wanted, and this was a metaphor for privilege, which he then went onto go into specific, real world examples of. (Social justice was a theme of the entire class). I still think about that exercise and remember that I learned from it.

Vor 9 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

Huh, it was “privilege” because the other students were given orders to over-police some and not others. If only you could just not give them that order and get rid of the “privilege” in that situation… Now apply it to real life and it falls apart. Cops don’t get orders to specifically target anybody in particular. They just want to write tickets. Who gets them is people that give them the opportunity.

Vor 5 Monate
David McHugh - Hypnotherapist
David McHugh - Hypnotherapist

In my property maintenance business i employed many guys, but did not like to leave a person of colour working on their own because citizens would report them to the police for suspicious behaviour, even though they wore high vis vests and carried tradesman tools. One customer i remember called one of my employees “here boy” and i told her off. Needless to say i lost the contract, but i was really angry at her racism.

Vor 5 Monate
dgafkjaf
dgafkjaf

@Jeju Iju You know that calling grown, even old, black men "boy" is like a hallmark of racist white southerners, right? It was deliberately to belittle them and show them no more respect than you would a child, even if they were an adult. Did you really not know that, or are you just being disingenuous?

Vor 6 Tage
prosandcons2131
prosandcons2131

@Jeju Iju not necessarily racist but disrespectful for sure.

Vor 9 Tage
Jeju Iju
Jeju Iju

''here boy'' is now a racist term? gotcha.

Vor 14 Tage
Dave Price
Dave Price

I'm german.... The idea of students not being uncomfortable in class is insane to me, like, I didn't finish school but I still had a total of 5 different lesson units talking about ww2 and germanys part in it, starting in 4th grade and being repeated every year or 2 after that

Vor 9 Monate
kevinkilbane2007
kevinkilbane2007

You're not German. Youre copying the other comments

Vor 4 Monate
Marike Andresen
Marike Andresen

Another German here - exactly!

Vor 4 Monate
dodumichalcevski
dodumichalcevski

Laber doch kein SCHEI*ß der zweite Weltkrieg hat GARNICHTS mit uns zutun. Und wer sich dafür schämt, hat den bezug zur Realität verloren. Critical Race theory ist reiner Rassismus gegen weiße.

Vor 4 Monate
Matt Logue
Matt Logue

Yeah it probably sucks when somebody thinks nazis when they think Germany. I do and it's wrong. US has done bad stuff too, and still does as evidenced here.

Vor 6 Monate
Amelia Brittain
Amelia Brittain

I am from Memphis TN, infamously where MLK jr was assassinated, so racial justice has always been a massively important part of my upbringing and schooling. Teachers in elementary school showed us videos of black children being hosed down in the streets, student protestors being attacked by police, testimony from participates in sit ins and marches, and it was truly mortifying and terrible to comprehend, and that was before our teachers told us about how THEY lived through it. The past is not the past, it is around us and in us everyday all the time everywhere, that’s what I was taught. We didn’t call it CRT although in a way it was, but for us it was simply reality. To call it anything else would be a lie, and as educators it is there job to show us the truth. Thank god they did.

Vor 9 Monate
Matt Schrader
Matt Schrader

@Amelia Brittain Likewise

Vor 2 Monate
Amelia Brittain
Amelia Brittain

@Matt Schrader you are hilarious.

Vor 2 Monate
Amelia Brittain
Amelia Brittain

@Matt Schrader also I am not a democrat they are center right and I am leftist.

Vor 2 Monate
Amelia Brittain
Amelia Brittain

@Matt Schrader MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A SOCIALIST!!!!

Vor 2 Monate
Matt Schrader
Matt Schrader

Martin Luther King fought and died for a society that "would judge people on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin" If only he saw the nonsense you and yours push on young children to further your religious political ideology while reducing everyone to nothing more than color he would vomit!

Vor 2 Monate
N
N

I remember my sophomore and junior year history teachers being real about history. If you aren't made uncomfortable you're doing it wrong. History is cool, but it's also icky

Vor 9 Monate
Dreamworldman
Dreamworldman

@mrwilsonI already knew. Does all that even fall under crt?

Vor Monat
Matt Schrader
Matt Schrader

Yup, and American history is not much different than any other country, except 400,000 Union soldiers gave their lives and another million gave body parts to insure the end of slavery in the states. Pretty sure no other country has ever made such sacrifices to settle a common societal practice because it was in direct conflict with their Constitution. The debt was paid in full with blood a long time ago. If we think we need to pay black families money to make this right, we must also pay the white descendants of all union soldiers who left themselves on the battle field.

Vor 2 Monate
Stranger Danger
Stranger Danger

One of the greatest casualties of stifling public debate surrounding these topics Republicans are engaged in is not solely for the benefit of one worldview, but for a critical look at history itself. You should and will be made uncomfortable, not just by savage acts of racism, but by complex moral choices and compromises others made. It is not only a story of power, but of choice, and when we spend the precious little time we have on bullshit, we do not delve into deeper topics of great importance that do not, as Republicans claim to fear, only advance a singular ideology, but we gain a more holistic understanding of the field and our place within it. It is complex to talk about individual motives for going to war, or the amount of Black people, unwillingly *and* willingly, who served in the Confederacy and their reasons for doing so. History, in its ideal form, is both an examination of and tension with our constantly evolving understanding of the past, and good teachers will expand their students' critical capacities to consider multiple, unheard, and often difficult perspectives. However this CRT fear-mongering is not that. It is not some revolutionary foray into race education, nor does it stem from a zealotry for the field itself or the accurate teaching thereof — it is rehashed, regurgitated propaganda sucking all the air out of the room as a distraction from historical examination that will not even yield the devastating results they pretend it might and often represents the complexity (or "teaching the controversy") they claim to champion, but ultimately and systematically rejects any instruction that diverges from unfiltered adulation of nativism, jingoism, white supremacy, and capitalism. That's what we should be talking about, because their perspective, as we can assure ourselves through abundant evidence, has indeed been represented.

Vor 2 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@NavySeal2k It is based on fiction, because it is not based on facts, but people like John Oliver pretend it’s real, like magic

Vor 3 Monate
NavySeal2k
NavySeal2k

@Aaron Landry And again, please entertain me and tell me how it is based on fiction.

Vor 3 Monate
K K
K K

As an Italian, history is a tough and discomfortable subject, but discomfort is a necessary aspect of the learning process and it's only by embracing it that we get to know our past, our history with all its sad and unpleasant truths. After all, history is not about celebrating ourselves, it's about learning about ourselves.

Vor 3 Monate
Zainab Moody
Zainab Moody

@Classy Robotthat is not what it teaches. If children feel bad because of what some of their ancestors did, then the lesson has done it's job. Don't treat people like shit simply because they are different and it's easy. The end.

Vor 8 Tage
MoBo
MoBo

@Classy Robot And CRT does not do that.

Vor 11 Tage
Classy Robot
Classy Robot

Children shouldnt be taught to treat each other differently based on the color of their skin.

Vor 11 Tage
MoBo
MoBo

@Valdurion 1) of course modern day people still have to do with the stuff back then. the discrimination of black people in the USA continues until today. kk2157 says they are Italian - and Italian voters just recently voted a neo-fascist into office. So of course the present is connected to the past. 2) of course there were black slavers in Africa, but does that excuse the white slave traders, the white slave buyers, and the white slave owners? You don't have to feel personally guilty for something you didn't do, but the segregation of black people in the USA is still happening, as you can see in the examples in the video you are commenting (e.g. the game of separating students into blue and brown eyed groups)

Vor 12 Tage
Zainab Moody
Zainab Moody

@valdurian I'm so sure that is the exact reason. I've heard and read a plethora of court and government officials, politicians, parents and saying that is the reason they are opposed to teaching ANYTHING they don't like. Bull! As a descendant of slaves, freemen, and white Europeans I can say we know that African tribes sold other members of opposing African tribes. It was taught. Maybe not where you are from? That's not the issue. The issue is people don't want to teach any of it at all. How are we supposed to add that lesson and history to those courses when people are saying the courses shouldn't exist in the first place? That's like saying 'some people are allergic to peanuts, so we shouldn't show pictures, movies, books or talk about peanut butter. Ever.'

Vor 15 Tage
Christopher Fields II
Christopher Fields II

dude at 25:00 said it perfectly. that was me in my history class lol. only black kid learning about slavery had all the kids cracking jokes about how i wouldve been their slave back in the day. so personally, its extremely hilarious seeing these parents/news anchors/politicians get in a tizzy. never crossed my mind to cry about how the lessons were hurting my wittle feelings.

Vor 5 Monate
©️ryptoℹnvestⓂ️entality
©️ryptoℹnvestⓂ️entality

Black people sold all the slaves to white men! African families as rich as Elon from sellin slaves to Europeans

Vor 2 Stunden
Tracy Avent-Costanza
Tracy Avent-Costanza

maybe, but if it were the adults cracking the joes instead of the kids, you might have taken it differently. humor has its place and its context but a lot of that context is also cultural.

Vor 15 Stunden
hew195050
hew195050

Depends upon whether they were your friends busting your balls or antagonists really trying to hurt you.

Vor 12 Tage
Scat Chef
Scat Chef

@Jeju Iju Bro, I am also from England and tired of being used as a pawn in this game of hurt feelings and oppression points.,

Vor 12 Tage
Jeju Iju
Jeju Iju

@Scat Chef How can you be traumatised over something that never happened to you? Why are you of the belief that only ''blacks in the west'' have ever been oppressed? Every nation has been oppressor, and oppressed, at some point in history. Im from England, so by you wokies logic, the nations that owe me reparations for slavery are: Italy, Africa (Berbers, oh, never heard of them?), Turkey (Ottoman), Sweden, France, Denmark, Holland, Norway, Finland, Spain, Ireland, Scotland, Wales. Guess what? i don't care, why? because i'm not a fragile moron, and i have never been affected by it. Just like, no living black in america has ever been a victim of slavery, thus, not affected by it. Manufactured issues are exactly that, manufactured.

Vor 14 Tage
Bridget OfOld
Bridget OfOld

I am a Veteran and I have always believed that knowing and recognizing the darkest part of history and still be willing to put your life on the line for the idea of better is actually the most patriotic you can be.

Vor 5 Monate
Jack Hammer
Jack Hammer

@___TIM___ Christianity is for sheep as well

Vor 11 Tage
___TIM___
___TIM___

@Jack Hammer a theory just like Christianity.. absolutely no proof any of that happened...but there it is always there. In schools..law... politics

Vor 11 Tage
Sike Quan
Sike Quan

@Eltharrion - Oh wow! I did not know that about Finland, although I DID learn a lot about your country from a roommate I had several years ago.. Thank you for that history lesson - which is even more meaningful (to me at least) because it is recounted from a personal, not abstract, standpoint. Keeps it real.

Vor Monat
Eltharrion
Eltharrion

@Sike Quan Finland

Vor Monat
Sike Quan
Sike Quan

@Eltharrion - Greece?

Vor Monat
Serena Sorensen
Serena Sorensen

Jane Elliot was in a documentary called "The Eye of the Storm" in 1970. It was about the "eye color" lesson mentioned in this episode. I encourage anyone who hasn't seen in to look it up, and then watch the follow up 15 years later called "A Class Divided", they're both on YouTube. The children are elementary school age and white and it didn't take them long to figure out that treating people badly was wrong. I saw the 1985 documentary on PBS when I was 15 and it left a lasting impact on me. The idea that you can't talk to children about race and racism is complete BS.

Vor 8 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@MathShinobi Not the original post, his several responses that were automatically deleted. You’re clearly not very bright either

Vor Monat
MathShinobi
MathShinobi

I'm not sure what this dude is on about, but if he's talking about your original post, it's still here. XD

Vor Monat
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Serena Sorensen It is *your, you foppish pseudo-intellectual

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Serena Sorensen It’s also extremely telling that you’re completely unable to even hold intelligent conversation with the topic of teaching children about more historically significant events than the same two events over and over again. Do you want an even more redundant curriculum so Slavery is the only event taught about?

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Serena Sorensen Your comment was deleted. It’s visible only to you and nobody else. You don’t use this site very much, do you?

Vor 3 Monate
Protected Lands
Protected Lands

Thank you for showing MLK in a color video. The constant use of black and white imagery of the Civil Rights Movement really seems like an attempt to make that time feel like the distant past when, in reality, a lot of our parents were around to witness it and feel it’s effects.

Vor 11 Monate
Catherine Tihanyi
Catherine Tihanyi

Color TV was introduced to the general public in the late sixties but the news were still shown in black and white for quite a while. MLK was murdered in 1968. The reason we see in that picture is because it was colorized, the colors were added way after the fact... I agree with the spirit of your comment but please please it's so easy to get information....

Vor Monat
thewaffle003
thewaffle003

@Alexandra Henderson I don't think it's all that overt anymore. I grew up in a pretty diverse (small) city and a lot of the troubles black people face are more systemic now than anything. We just need to help poor and disadvantaged people, and since black people are those things at a greater rate we'll be helping them at a greater rate too--as long as we block attempts to make any help given one-sided toward white people or against blacks.

Vor 3 Monate
Alexandra Henderson
Alexandra Henderson

@thewaffle003 MLK later rebuked that dream... Him and a lot of other amazing black activist said that white adults will not treat our black children as good enough. So having black figures leading our black children is better. Which a civil rights psychologist (the first black female in the field) conducted studies showing children in schools focused on their culture were less like to face discrimination or unnecessary force. It wasn't promoting homogeny but it did promote the fact that similar lives are better at understanding each other. It promoted public diversity and equality without putting kids at risk of being reprimanded for not being white

Vor 3 Monate
traviswall1982
traviswall1982

@Chief Crewin "Cult of Personality". If a creator they like said anything, that is the truth. No research required. And THAT is the saddest part, people want ME to show them what was really said instead of looking for themselves. Research is a muscle and if I keep showing people what is what, they will never figure it out themselves.

Vor 4 Monate
Chief Crewin
Chief Crewin

@traviswall1982 it's depressing how few people realize he was asked a question about the Vietnam war

Vor 4 Monate
MoneyGist
MoneyGist

The Western culture "brought forth Christianity"? History really *needs* to be taught in schools.

Vor Monat
V. Whitney
V. Whitney

I always thought the best American flag would have lots of ragged tears in it to represent all the nasty awful stuff in our past (and present). Then there would be stitches on some of the tears to represent repairs - freeing of the slaves and outlawing slavery, women’s suffrage, the Civil Rights act, the EPA. Some of the stitches would have come lose or out (Citizens United, the 2008 taxpayer bailout of banks and bankers, not throwing those bankers into jail but giving them bonuses, etc). What a great flag that would be. Each stitch would be our achievement together, each remaining (or new) tear or lose stitch an opportunity for repair. Our flag has been reduced to a blanket, symbolizing infantile, fairytale protection.

Vor 9 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@seagull beagle This is the visualization of an Owl flying into an actual flag or maybe a cat decided to shred one. Also, find me any other country in the world that does something like this. If you can’t find one, it’s because this is a very stupid idea

Vor 4 Monate
seagull beagle
seagull beagle

@Aaron Landry Hey, don’t be mean. They’re making a rather interesting visualization of how our country’s actions can be reflected into a flag. I know it doesn’t sound too appealing at first, but you’d be surprised what a little space on the canvas can provide.

Vor 4 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

That’s a horrible idea. It won’t look like it represents anything, it’ll look like an owl or a cat attacked it. What a stupid idea

Vor 5 Monate
Sassy The Sasquatch
Sassy The Sasquatch

“It was pretty fucked up”😂 I love this show so much, they do a good job of bringing light to a problem in a way that I can still laugh

Vor 7 Monate
ExtremeKnucklehead !!!
ExtremeKnucklehead !!!

YUP

Vor Monat
annece ferron
annece ferron

When I was 16, so exactly 30 years ago. The Algerian indépendance movement against French colonialism was maybe 1 page long in our history books, not talking about the tortures, or the Harkis, or other people who tryed to help France and were left in Algeria with no protection. I learned about the « massacre de Charonne of 62 -a subway station in Paris where Algerian living in Paris where just manifesting against the war were killed by cops few years later, and not by reading school book, but having to search by myself where were the info. This all thing is a shame. And the worst is that libraries have this politic of « désherbage » (aka reducing the amount on dying herbs to let to knew one’s grow up/destroying the books no one asks about to make place for new one). So these type of hystorical books disappears from our library, because our school book avoided the subject. Thanks god documentaries and testament from these people are now freely available

Vor 8 Monate
Catherine Tihanyi
Catherine Tihanyi

@Panzermeiller I agree with you but it's not a stain on Algerian history. Blink your eyes and change perspective....

Vor Monat
Catherine Tihanyi
Catherine Tihanyi

Please check your nearest public library or university library. The tragic history you refer to is indeed in history books and fictions and play. Give a chance to Franz Fanon, as well as the great body of Algerian literature. Oh and music...

Vor Monat
Kill Me
Kill Me

The future will face famine, disease, natural disasters and mass migration of people from poor countries. I hope everyone realizes that no one in charge of a wealthy country cares about any of that. It is in their interest to demonize the poor and in need and outright eradicate them before they become a problem, or at the very least have a galvanized army of patriots willing to throw these people into concentration camps. This is our only future. Life IS suffering.

Vor 5 Monate
Panzermeiller
Panzermeiller

@The Mind We actually do teach them, its really the Algerian war who is missing as it is a huge stain on French history

Vor 7 Monate
Panzermeiller
Panzermeiller

There is still a lot of lies taught in school about the Algerian war, both in France and Algeria. Most people think its just some independance war like in Indochina while its clearly way WAY more complicated than that. The thing is that if they taught the truth peoples would lose all trust in the French republic as its founder is the one responsible for the horrible outcome

Vor 7 Monate
Me.
Me.

To add to the 'history lessons in Germany' thing this comment section has going on... When I was in 3rd grade, they took us on an excursion to a local former concentration camp, particularly infamous for medical experimentation on children, many of whom had been around our age. It was a deeply impactful visit, not despite but also BECAUSE of how deeply uncomfortable it was, because emotions often stick in our memory better than empirical facts do. Sure, it was a lot to take in at that age, but in retrospect I'm very grateful for that visit because it taught me about the horrors of the holocaust in a way no history book ever could. The banning of a book like Maus is honestly wild to me, especially with the flimsy excuses such as 'coarse language' (as if that's the issue here, srsly, wtaf) or the violence being age-inappropriate. How can you teach about something like the holocaust, or slavery for that matter, without mentioning the violence? How can you teach children the truth of the dark parts of history without causing discomfort, when that's something simply inherent in the subject matter that's supposed to be taught?

Vor 11 Monate
Gunner6000WarZ
Gunner6000WarZ

@FROM OUTTA LEFT FIELD Look. I know why you fear my historical knowledge. Because you cannot side step and paint blame of slavery on the group you hate. So instead of engaging and having a conversation, you run and hide while poisoning the well along the way. Intellectual dishonesty isn’t a good look my friend. At least I’m consistent with my frame of reference. And I know why you don’t want to read what I post. You fear it.

Vor 2 Monate
FROM OUTTA LEFT FIELD
FROM OUTTA LEFT FIELD

@Gunner6000WarZ I have 4 . When one account doesn't post, I can sometimes post when I switch to another one. Anyway I'm not about to read all that garbage you wrote. Furthermore, your take on history (almost everything having to do with race), has zero credibility. Remember, you celebrate Columbus day, for his "discovering" a place that already had people living in it. So with that sorta Indoctrination, I'd reckon it's best you and the likes of your kind stay as far away from the history books (ESPECIALLY ANYTHING PART HAVING TO DO WITH RACE) as possible, because you don't know anything about race and you've NEVER been told the truth and you do not care to hear the truth. I've heard enough of your white fragility. You're dismissed.. Run along now.

Vor 2 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@Gunner6000WarZ 10 "When someone utters the phrase “Blacks sold Blacks into slavery”, it is a scripted response. Rarely, do the people who use it know the specifics surrounding that experience of Africans selling other Africans. They only know that the phrase feels good to say because it blames Black people for their slavery experience. It removes responsibility for the legacies of slavery from White ancestors, hoping to preserve the flags, monuments, and revisionist history that is soothing to White fragility".

Vor 2 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@Gunner6000WarZ I'm not reading all that ignorant mess. You're a feat and loathing racist with nothing but lies misinformation and conspiracies. Nothing you say has any credibility. You're being exposed left right front and center.

Vor 2 Monate
Gunner6000WarZ
Gunner6000WarZ

@FROM OUTTA LEFT FIELD How many accounts do you have? And why?

Vor 2 Monate
hi there
hi there

1:30 he literally thinks christianity was invented by the founding fathers, thats terrifying

Vor Monat
ryan mclean
ryan mclean

we did the same exercise when i was in first grade it was just me and all of my black classmates in the brown eye group and it was fucked up indeed

Vor Monat
ryan mclean
ryan mclean

@kellygreen that’s amazing hats off to your teacher

Vor 2 Stunden
kellygreen
kellygreen

I was 12/13 when I did a similar exercise back in 2014. But our teacher had done research on how to teach this lesson properly. Instead of picking out a real physical trait we the students couldn't change, she had us draw cards from a hat. You got either blue or yellow. The same exact lesson, without the realism hitting too early. I remember that fondly and am grateful I learned about racism in a way that did make me feel uncomfortable as a Mexican American with light skin. I became aware of my white privilege without others being thrown under the bus. From then on I learned how to use my privilege to speak out and help those who are victims of racism.

Vor 7 Stunden
Stacey Obrien
Stacey Obrien

If they really wanted to teach the oppressor, they should make the blue eyed kids the lower tier.

Vor 7 Tage
Flea Market Mixtape
Flea Market Mixtape

they did that in the 1st grade?

Vor Monat
handledc37
handledc37

The older I get, the more I appreciate the fact that I went to a school that was very diverse and that used to be the school for black children during segregation. The teachers taught us that history, and they had us speak to people like one of our custodians, who was a student during those times. And the fact is, I still learned racist ways of thinking by living in a white supremacist society, which I then had to unlearn in middle school through further "CRT" type lessons, like when we watched Roots in 7th grade (and through being friends with POC and listening to what they had to say). Racism is insidious, and even (white) kids who do learn the truth about slavery need continuing education.

Vor 7 Monate
Nina Daly
Nina Daly

@Catherine Tihanyi But Alex Haley, who wrote Roots said that the series was not to be taken literally. It was, I believe, loosely based on his own family history. He said he was trying to create a kind of black American mythology or history, roots, if you will. Was slavery wrong? Of course it was. Did bad things happen to people? Absolutely. As has happened to so many different groups of people throughout history (almost all of them at one time or another). Man’s inhumanity toward man knows no bounds. Should truth be told? Yes, but these days it seems few put the time or energy into discerning the fact from the fiction, the reality from the hyperbole. It is so pointless to judge history and it’s players through a contemporary lens. Look what humankind has accomplished in 180 years! How much more is understood. My fear is that this constant focus on the past is breeding contemporary anger and division. With eyes focused on the past in this new 10 second sound byte world, how much of the now and the future will be missed by the younger generations. It’s an increasingly competitive world out there. Should we as individual Americans or our society as a whole be looking behind us?

Vor Monat
Catherine Tihanyi
Catherine Tihanyi

@Nina Daly ROOTS made people think., The story in it was typical of what happened and the attempt to show the past roots that slaves were trying to get hold of, like closing their hands on a cloud so that they never really could, wasa a very honorable way to imparting the trauma of knowledge and remembrance. So yes that series was about REALITY. You are trying to say it wasnt so? That people were not kidnapped and crushed into the holds of ships and that a certain number of them died in those circumstances. That people were told that they were less than human, oftren less than livestock and that children were brainwashed to believe it, that slave women were routinely raped, that women and men and children were lynched (lynchings were often preceded by torture and rape, etc? The human species is tragically known to do these horrors, but some individuals have always fought and resisted them. That's my consolation.... I dont understand why you want to deny it, the horrors and mass destruction of humans as well as the heroes who did everything possible to stop it???????????????????????????????? PS: silence is complicity.

Vor Monat
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Nina Daly I’m currently in college (1 year away from 2 bachelors, so just waiting for a year before I can get an actual career), but it’s much worse than just the students being dumb as bricks. The professors are also exactly like that. It amazes me that Leftwingers in particular like to snootily gloat about how “educated” they are with like an Associates of General Studies, because universities are full of idiots. People driving while texting is another constant example of Darwinism in action. “Higher education” my ass. “Expensive way to get a piece of paper” is more like it.

Vor 5 Monate
Nina Daly
Nina Daly

@Aaron Landry I agree with you on the last point for sure. There are numerous people in black history that deserve a movie. Unfortunately, the young are the target market and they KNOW NOTHING about history. I watched a YouTube bit the other day of this chick with a microphone asking college age kids on a beach “How many continents are there?” They had no idea; groups of them had no idea. When asked if they could name the continents, one kid said “France?”. Kids today aren’t interested in what has come before. Question: Where are these “countless real stories coming from?

Vor 5 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Nina Daly I don’t understand how or why anyone would make or watch “Roots” when there are countless real stories to just make into a movie instead like Uladah Equiano, Fredrick Douglas, and so on. Plenty of slaves and former slaves that lived interesting lives. Roots is as historically accurate as Disney’s Pocahontas. Roots also has OJ Simpson in it, which makes it trash, because he definitely killed her and got away with it

Vor 5 Monate
RichN Dar
RichN Dar

Being a Cree-Ojibwa Native, I welcome learning about World history, the good, the bad, and yes even the ugly. If we do not learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.

Vor 8 Monate
Tia Thompson
Tia Thompson

@KeithKogane IsLife! $5 dollar Indians are historically accurate......it's what you Colonizers did to further denigrate Indigenous people's. The truth makes you people so uncomfortable.

Vor Monat
KeithKogane IsLife!
KeithKogane IsLife!

@Tia Thompson I don’t normally do this but, it’s you’re not your.

Vor Monat
KeithKogane IsLife!
KeithKogane IsLife!

@Tia Thompson again, I point to the $5 Indian remark oh and the tone of saying, “your kind”.

Vor Monat
Tia Thompson
Tia Thompson

@KeithKogane IsLife! I haven't insulted you one time.....

Vor Monat
Tia Thompson
Tia Thompson

@KeithKogane IsLife! Now your just trolling dude.....Go wash your white hooded suit and pray before your picture of Trump your savior and leave the rest of us alone.

Vor Monat
TheDapperDolphin
TheDapperDolphin

I’ve taught high school before, and I got to say that many teens love the chance to discuss controversial or political issues when given the chance. They’re forming their own identifies and beliefs, and are starting to notice that the simple narratives they learned as a child may not be entirely true. However, most teens don’t have the opportunity or environment to discuss those things, especially if those topics don’t fit their parent’s worldview. So a classroom that provides context and information on subjects, and a civil discussion moderated by a teacher is exactly the place to discuss things such as racism.

Vor 11 Monate
nathan hoepner
nathan hoepner

I taught European History in high school for five years. Absolutely agree with you - the students are open to and interested in controversial discussions, and pretty open-minded. It's (some of) the parents who are scared.

Vor 2 Monate
John Barry
John Barry

Honestly, I've always felt like my high school glazed over topics that they definitely should have talked about in more depth. Specifically as this pertains to both WW2 History and how America has treated black people, which has never ceased. The Holocaust was something gone over, for about a week. World War 2 maybe for a month and Slavery/Black History/KKK and American White Supremacy-American Nazi's for another month. No mention of Emmitt Till, no mention of the 4 million KKK member march on DC, no mention of Red Lining and School Choice. Thankfully, college taught me a very important value. The ability to teach myself. To challenge myself with topics and history and push my own limits of knowledge. But, definitely as an adult, 25 years later; I definitely wish my education was more honest with me.

Vor 7 Monate
Honest A.K. 126
Honest A.K. 126

@ProkofNY Goddamn you can't listen... It's pretty simple, teaching systemic racism falls under your umbrella term of teaching CRT to kids and you said yourself you can't do that to k-12 students.

Vor 8 Monate
ProkofNY
ProkofNY

@Honest A.K. 126 “thanks for not going against that you don’t believe in systemic racism though. And you have no faith in children learning huh?” This is what I mean. What you are arguing for or against is not quite clear. I never said either of the things that you mention. Go read a bit about enlightened liberalism and tents of CRT and then get back to me in a couple of months.

Vor 8 Monate
Honest A.K. 126
Honest A.K. 126

@ProkofNY You could ask questions, or try and talk about them, you just don't understand so you do nothing to attempt understanding.

Vor 8 Monate
unknownmovements
unknownmovements

I majored in history and attended a university in the South where I live. I was taking a class about Antebellum Southern history and one day after class a student asked our professor, who had also lived in the South his entire life, what led him to choose his career. His response was "well, I actually wanted to teach at the high school level but couldn't because I wouldn't have been allowed to teach the true historical facts concerning events like slavery." That was 20 years ago. The simple truth is this... actual learning only begins after you graduate high school and attend university. Edit: I want to clarify something for layman which came up in the discussions below. Any statement, written or verbally communicated, from a person directly involved in some event is a primary source and is always acceptable to cite regardless of the format. This also includes reporting from news organizations. If information comes from an unknown source, such as some random webpage or Youtube channel, that is not a primary source and it is not acceptable to quote it because you have no clue whether the information provided is correct or not. Anybody can create a webpage or upload videos to Youtube... that does not mean they are experts in the fields they are discussing. This principle applies to all fields of study. If a politician uploads a video to their personal Youtube channel in which they express some view... that is a primary source and is an acceptable source for documentation. If some random Youtube channel posts a video about that same politician's video... that is not a primary source and it is not an acceptable source for documentation.

Vor 9 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Rawk Hawk The dangerous side of that equation is that digital citation like links are being over-targeted by bots on every platform. They’ll strike down your comment for linking to a Wikipedia page, but can’t recognize a p@rn bot posting the same message 700 times. Good luck citing anything on the internet, because there’s no way to link to something useful information proving your point or raising valid criticism of something. No way to fact check something, meaning the internet will become like Facebook

Vor 3 Monate
Rawk Hawk
Rawk Hawk

@unknownmovements I think that's worth being clear about. Laypeople like me just hear "No one can cite YouTube videos" and when they see someone citing a politican's tweet or YouTube video with that in mind they'll think "that's not credible". Thanks for addressing that. Cheers!

Vor 4 Monate
unknownmovements
unknownmovements

@Rawk Hawk When I said no Historian would ever cite a Youtube video as a credible source of information... I meant videos uploaded by channels created by people who don't have backgrounds in the fields they are discussing. If a politician or public figure uploads a video to their channel on Youtube in which they express some view... that is a primary source and it is acceptable to cite. Same principle applies to tweets from politicians and public figures. A primary source is always an acceptable source of documentation regardless of the format. Knowing Better is a channel which uploads videos detailing historical events created by a guy who does not have a History degree. If he published books instead of making Youtube videos, it would be no different because he still isn't a reliable source since he is not a Historian. My argument is not about format... my argument is about sources.

Vor 5 Monate
Rawk Hawk
Rawk Hawk

@unknownmovements The comments you were replying to were deleted but I ended up reading your side anyway. I don't have anything to add or disagree with but in a very tangential and amateurishly pedantic way I wanted to address something you said. About how historians both don't and never will use a Youtube video as a source. I think this is just dreadfully anachronistic (or dreadfully contemporary depending on how you view my framing, or in other words, subject to change). A lot of modern journalism is done online and some of it is ABOUT tweets and youtube videos. These (tweets, videos, and journalism of them, etc) will eventually be cited as original sources of history. I guess you could say this is "web history" and specifically recent history but we're kind of reaching a critical point where so much of our communication is facilitated by media like Youtube and the internet in general, that it would be sincerely foolish to discount it all as part of what will eventually be history. That's different than citing a contemporary Youtube video's account of a historical event as a credible source of that event (without a lot of extra legwork that ends with citing other sources anyway). Although it's irrelevant when talking about anytime before the 90s. I think the thing non-historians like me usually misunderstand is that historians do the best job they can to find not just reports OF a time, but accounts actually FROM a time. i.e. There are no youtube accounts of slavery from the antebellum era. All youtube videos are from ~2005 onward. And I understand they do this because essentially or ideally that is part of becoming a historian: learning to appraise the quality of sources. Sorry if this was irrelevant to the point of being distracting or frustrating in any way, it was a comment written a bit for you, me, and any other curious reader,as I said just a tangential thought to something you didn't expand much on since it wasn't important to what you were saying specifically.

Vor 5 Monate
unknownmovements
unknownmovements

@Voice of Reason It is well documented that local school boards in the south started incorporating Lost Cause propaganda into the classroom after the war, and that phenomenon lasted well into the 20th century. Location and year dictated whether this happened more or less often. Just because you did not experience this does not mean that this did not occur in other regions of the South... what an insane assertion. But think about what you just said. With no knowledge about the person, you claimed that you knew their actual intent. Incredible. Then you stated your own personal experience implied this was also the case everywhere else. But the historical record shows otherwise. I don't get why all you armchair philosophers and layman constantly do this.... you have zero background in the subject so have no clue what you are talking about yet do so anyway. But I will tell you exactly the same thing I told the other guy in this very thread... if you think I am wrong, then simply ask any professor from a reputable university whether the statements I made are correct or not. They will ALL tell you the exact same thing that I just did.

Vor 8 Monate
Sean -Chesthole- Osman
Sean -Chesthole- Osman

So what happens if a school in Tennessee DOES teach history correctly, and loses their state funding? Isn't the right to an education enshrined in our laws? Wouldn't students have a good civil case against the state of Tennessee?

Vor 8 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

Easy. We’ll just purchase an AI for a fraction of the price and let it teach our children an entirely apolitical history curriculum. This way there will be no teachers complaining they “don’t make enough” for only working 2/3rds of a year, no expensive retirement benefits to worry about because the AI can work continuously, and can even tailor lessons specifically to target students’ weak points or to cater best to learning disabilities. Also with the teacher not being human, it will never attempt to indoctrinate children or expose them to inappropriate material for no reason, because it isn’t programmed to do so. The perfect solution

Vor 3 Monate
Daniele Fabbro
Daniele Fabbro

I read once the American constitution but I never heard about a "right to education" or something like that. 🤔 Maybe I'm wrong. I'm probably wrong. There must be something like that. Please tell me there's definitely something like that. 😑

Vor 8 Monate
Matt Essency
Matt Essency

You know people had a pretty similar reaction to evolution being taught in schools.

Vor 6 Monate
Alex Murphy
Alex Murphy

Yeah except evolution is a scientific fact and this is some shitty sociology theory. Asian Americans are minorities and are more successful than white people on average. There goes this entire theory. Your upbringing decides your future, not your skin color. End of story.

Vor 3 Monate
who_the_fuck_is_riley ?
who_the_fuck_is_riley ?

God. I'd never seen that other MLK clip but seeing how defeated he looked really hit me

Vor 5 Monate
Chief Crewin
Chief Crewin

Watch the full interview. The dishonest brsinwashed jackass's who make this show cut up Dr Kings answer. He was talking about the Vietnam War.

Vor 4 Monate
John Chessant
John Chessant

Related to the "whose discomfort are we prioritizing" question, one of my favorite MLK quotes: "I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: 'I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action'; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a 'more convenient season'. Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." -- MLK, "Letter from a Birmingham jail", 1963

Vor 11 Monate
Nina Daly
Nina Daly

There in lies the rub. For justice to exist, there MUST be “order”. Otherwise, it’s a free-for-all, as we are seeing now. Each group so myopic and narcissistic, they can’t see the forest for the trees; Each giving lip service to the others for their own sakes. If you pervert and manipulate social foundations enough, eventually they will fall, but at what price? What will replace them and will it be any less just or even more? At a time when we should ALL be Americans first and our special interests second, we are becoming ever more divisive. Remember, if democracy falls, the special interests won’t matter any more, will they?

Vor 8 Monate
bgrego88
bgrego88

Rather have a real enemy then a fake friend

Vor 8 Monate
Ismael
Ismael

He had a lot more great things to say than just his “I have a dream speech” and I wish that was acknowledged more.

Vor 8 Monate
Travis W
Travis W

@Kimberlyn Roberts You are right, the parties don't matter, only ideas matter. Nobody can know all of history, but most people are aware of major themes. If we want people to understand the themes more deeply with more history that is a good thing. I would support adding all of those things to history books and more. Let's just not promote racism for future generations. People like me are willing to absorb all ideas and talk it through. Other people don't want a real solution and want to cancel facts and erase knowledge and history to get votes. Candace Owens is the one who gets actively erased, for example. I support solutions.

Vor 9 Monate
Travis W
Travis W

@Kimberlyn Roberts Thanks for chatting with me about this because I am really interested in understanding. What would you like me to read/research exactly? I am happy to do it. We should definitely teach about this history. We just shouldn't repeat it and we should be trying to remove it from society, not make it worse. Don't you agree with that? Imagine if human beings only had infrared vision and we had no knowledge of colors. Minorities would not exist as a concept. The idea of minorities is the biggest social construct in history and it has created nothing but damage. We are all just humans, there are no minorities. Everyone is equal and only ideas that are pushed in society can make things unequal. We should stop pushing these ideas. People who separated humans into black, white or otherwise are the ones who caused all the problems. We need to keep in mind that it was never white people who caused it. It was people with bad ideas about racial separation, and they fought people to the death who had good ideas about taking skin color out of the equation. There were white people and black people on both sides the same as today. Ideas are more important than skin color. How do you suggest the world moves forward to a better place if you don't believe that? To this day, I haven't seen a single Democratic idea help a single black person.

Vor 9 Monate
Davere Tash
Davere Tash

We are in trouble. Democracy is a thought and what is being targeted is thinking. Thank you, Mr. Oliver.

Vor 4 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

Democracy is at no risk, hasn’t been at risk since WWII (Fascism and Imperialism were actual threats to Democracy), and likely never actually will be at legitimate risk. “Threat to our democracy” is just a meaningless buzzword news outlets throw around every so often

Vor 2 Monate
Fex
Fex

Although I pretty much watched this phenomenon again and again all my life, I'm always baffles by how deflecting people are to nuance.

Vor 7 Monate
alice kerketta
alice kerketta

This resonates so well with what the Bahujan people in India feel when we come to schools and colleges. How our generational suffering is sometimes not even covered in our books.

Vor 4 Monate
ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

My class had the eye color exercise as well. Me and one other dude had blue eyes so we were the privileged class. We were the only two allowed to sit in seats for the day, the others had to sit on the floor and do our schoolwork for us. They even had to bring us snacks and shit. Anything we needed, they had to get. Legit made the class our slaves. It was beyond awkward and uncomfortable.

Vor 8 Monate
Lisa Legato and the Noyz
Lisa Legato and the Noyz

Am I the only one who didn't have that lesson?

Vor 3 Tage
Stacey Obrien
Stacey Obrien

And they did that to the brown and black kids by default, not to the blonde, blue eyes Aryans. So it was really teaching that "Aryans" should feel superior.

Vor 7 Tage
NerfedNuke
NerfedNuke

What year was this?

Vor Monat
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

History should be taught in an unbiased objective way, that also doesn’t blame anyone today for things they didn’t do. History has been taught in schools for a long time, slavery, oppression, segregation…. If anything the only downplaying going on today in schools is the suffering of so many others across the globe and throughout all time. Slavery has existed for thousands of years throughout the globe. It has existed as a form of indentured servitude with some rights and a specific timeframe. It also existed as brutal slavery where minor infractions were harshly punished. That doesn’t mean the indentured servants always had it better. Sometimes their contracts were resold adding more years to their contract without their consent (so for example 20 years became 40 and if resold again even became life). Another way they kept indentured women for life is by keeping them pregnant and extending their years till they could no longer pay it off (I’ll let you imagine how they forced them to get pregnant). Something else to consider is in North America the majority of slaves were actually the Native Tribes/First Nations people until the mid 1700s. Then Africans and their descendants became the majority of people enslaved in North America until 1865 (that’s just over 100 years). Still horrific, still wrong but important part of history to know. In Africa itself people try to make slavery sound like people enslaved were treated as one of the family but this portrayal is far from the truth and the brutality of slavery was and is still today going on in parts of Africa. Other parts of the world as well still have slavery today. Another exaggeration often portrayed is that the Arab slave trade slaves were treated better but that is also untrue. Just one example only disproves this myth, which is their slaves were castrated. Europeans were also enslaved in Africa, between 1 million and 1.5 million were taken in the Barbary slave trade. The Vikings (as well as others) were known to kíll the slave when the slave owner died to serve in the afterlife. This idea that one group of people suffered far worse than anyone else isn’t true and just goes to show if anything American schools focus too little on slavery everywhere else and for everyone else. An argument for whíte privilege and teaching CRT specifically is an that argument is much better suited for the 1950s or 1800s but not today. The concept of “white privilege” was a poorly written hypothetical concept, not a peer reviewed theory. It was popularized by a pseudo-intellectual named Peggy Mcintosh, she was far from an expert on the subject she wrote about. I don’t disagree that systemic racism is historically real, nor do I make the argument oppression never existed but the concept of “white privilege” doesn’t accurately describe the events of the past (or take into account diversity of cultures within what we now call “white”). A better concept to describe systemic injustice is simply to say “oppression”. Throughout history, ruling elites and/or majority populations have oppressed the minority population and/or the poor. There is a danger that by talking about inequality as an all-consuming phenomenon, we will end up creating an inaccurate image portrayal that all people of one race in all situations and all contexts are benefiting from unearned advantages. When we talk about inequality, it’s important to understand that is not the status of all individuals from any single race, nor is it at all times. Another often overlooked danger is blaming all people of one race for all racial injustice throughout history. By virtue of birth an entire race is now responsible for the horrific crimes committed by some in the past. By virtue of birth, because of your skin color, your voice should now be silenced (you are not allowed to speak against violence in our communities)... and this isn’t racist?? Fighting racism with racism isn’t goIng to lead to a better society for all (a “we” society). Let’s also not overlook who is number one in income and education in the US, it isn’t whíte people. Which by your portrayal of our society (and others like you) should be impossible, instead it’s true that whíte people are not number one and disproves this notion that our entire country is set up where only one race is able to benefit. Teaching children that an entire system is against them or if they do succeed it’s because they had privilege undermines the very values America in fact does have. Where anyone can be successful and the only one that can hold you back is yourself. Want to succeed? Start with three things, get an education (don’t drop out of high school), two parent households (have a child stay there and help raise your child), and don’t commit críme(s) (especially víolent crímes). The same group that is number one in the US leads in all of these categories. Some bonus things are - if you do go to college don’t get a soft subject degree, get one in engineering or in a medical field. Set goals and raise your children with high expectations while allowing them to be children (be loving, kind and affectionate with your child)…. This is about teaching that success can be achieved by everyone. This is about teaching our society is “we”, not us versus them. This isn’t a fight about teaching history at all, this is actually a fight over keeping our children from being brainwashed into a myopic distorted view of the world today and of themselves. This is about teaching our values to our own children and teaching them they can be successful. That the only one that can hold you back in life is yourself.

Vor 2 Monate
boudecia22
boudecia22

And yet here is John Oliver, and the professor saying that's NOT what crt is, and that CRT is NOT being taught in schools. Clearly yoyr real time experience shows this to be a LIE. I'm british and was educated on world history. The good, the bad,the horrific, and britains part in it. No one was made to feel uncomfortable or guilty, because we LEARNED that this was the past, that we had no part in and are not responsible for. Children are sponges for information.but this skit from a ONCE funny british comedian, who went to usa because he's not funny any more, is basically gaslighting everyone into thinking it's NOT happening and the right is lying and wrong, yet they clearly aren't. I live in usa now and am truly appalled at the media here, both sides. This man has jumped on the bandwagon instead of having an I dependent mind, like he once had. Won't be watching him again. Teaching this in schools to young children is NOT the way to end any racism, which, incidentally, ive seen NO evidence of since I moved here. The media will tell you this is a racist nation, my experience is thats bullshit. And listening to his drivel, I would say he went full woke. I hope usa wakes up a.d ells the propaganda soon. From an outside view, virtually the entire country is brainwashed.

Vor 2 Monate
Kiel Fisher
Kiel Fisher

"Kids have questions ... and they deserve good answers" is a lesson a *lot* more adults could stand to learn...

Vor 11 Monate
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

I agree students do deserve “good answers” but is that what they are getting? That’s the important question here or is it just one-sided biased perspectives on important topics?

Vor 2 Monate
ProkofNY
ProkofNY

@Dario Carraresi Look at this quote one more time because it is quite relevant to both CRT and critical pedagogy: _critical pedagogy regards the claims that students make in response to social-justice issues _*_not as positions to be assessed for their truth value,_*_ but as expression a of power that function to re-inscribe and perpetuate social inequalities_ 1. Do you think the ideas from my kids’ critical pedagogy framework pertaining to what it describes as “inequitable systems of access power and privilege” do not fall under the rubric of “social-justice issues,” according to Bailey? What do you think are the “social-justice issues” that Bailey describes as an “expression a of power that function to re-inscribe and perpetuate social inequalities” then? 2. Do you not think the fact that the framework is a critical pedagogy is relevant information? Have you bothered to read about critical pedagogy at all? 3. When the framework states that it aims for students to “bring a critical lens to the world,” do you not think this has something to do with power dynamics based on the framework’s own description? Otherwise, what does it refer to then, according to you? 4. Do you not think it curious that two thirds of the framework’s listed goals/vision for students are political? 5. Would you have any problem if conservatives passed a counterpart framework aiming to make K-12 public school students “sociopolitically conscious” per their own definition of the term? 6. If certain ideas deriving from “social justice” scholarship are not to be challenged and/or scrutinized, are we still thinking critically, according to you? The “critical consciousness” which defines critical pedagogy and the analytical techniques behind critical thinking are two very distinct concepts. This is a well established notion (please read “Critical thinking vs. Critical Consciousness” by Howard A. Doughty, 2007). There is a strong liberal voice that has reservations against CRT/critical pedagogy—liberal concerns have much to do with how critical thinking and the critical consciousness are not entirely compatible. An article by Spencer Greenberg for the clear thinking podcast (Understanding the Divide Between Social Justice Advocates and the Left-Leaning "Anti-Woke" Community) expounds on this ideological divide.

Vor 9 Monate
Dario Carraresi
Dario Carraresi

@ProkofNY In the bits you quoted, there's NOTHING about teaching students that they should look at the world exclusively through an opressor/oppressed lens. Likewise, there is NOTHING about forbidding students from criticizing what they're being taught. But you claimed otherwise. VERY interesting. And a perfect example of the average anti-CRT speaker.

Vor 9 Monate
ProkofNY
ProkofNY

@Dario Carraresi Did you bother to independently corroborate the information I provided you with as I had suggested? Page 8, paragraph 3, listed as the framework’s “vision for an education system:” “Students who have a *critical lens* through which they challenge inequitable systems of access, power, and privilege: Students *bring a critical lens to the world* as they study historical and contemporary conditions of inequity and learn from historically marginalized voices. Students learn about power and privilege in the context of various communities…” Page 8 paragraph 2: “Students who are sociopolitically conscious and socioculturally responsive” “Sociopolitical conscious” is defined in a chart (page 9) as being able to: “Identify and critically examine both historical and contemporary power structures.” Remember to put the above information in context by keeping in mind that the framework bills itself as a critical pedagogy. What characterizes critical pedagogies is an emphasis on a “critical consciousness” which is clearly delineated in the above paragraphs as well as throughout the framework. As intersectional feminist and gender studies scholar Alison Bailey explains in “Tracking Privilege-Preserving Epistemically Pushback in Feminist and *CRT* Philosophy Classes” (2017): “The critical thinking tradition is concerned primarily with epistemically adequacy. To be critical is to show good judgement in recognizing when arguments are faulty, assertions lack evidence, truth claims appeal to unreliable sources, or concepts are sloppily crafted and applied… *critical pedagogy* regards the claims that students make in response to social-justice issues *not as positions to be assessed for their truth value,* but as expression a of power that function to re-inscribe and perpetuate social inequalities. Its mission is to teach students ways of identifying and mapping how power shapes our understandings of the world.“ In other words, the assertions the framework makes regarding power dynamics and oppressor/oppressed binaries cannot be criticized or challenged by students. In this regard, critical pedagogies aim to replace critical thinking (with its emphasis on objectivity, viewpoint diversity, and individual conclusions…what Bailey herself deems epistemic adequacy) with a very specific worldview.

Vor 9 Monate
Dario Carraresi
Dario Carraresi

@ProkofNY Yeah, no, I call bull. A framework that SPECIFICALLY states that it will make students see the world exclusively in tems of oppressor/oppressed? That doesn't exist. You made it up. I bet that what ACTUALLY happened is that it just said "seeing the world through a critical lens", and you made up the rest. Ever heard of "thinking CRITICALLY"? That doesn't mean "you must accept leftist ideology without ever questioning or criticizing it", dudette.

Vor 9 Monate
AccordingToWillow
AccordingToWillow

CRT is unfortunately just a defined enough collection of concepts to embody a longstanding fear of southern white republicans. I’m 27 years old and when I first read Howard Zinn in middle school and started questioning our cultural veneration of columbus, my mother insisted even then that it was the result of “liberal bias” in the school system. I never learned anything like that at my school. I had a biology teacher who didn’t support evolution, a government teacher who wasted half the class explaining how separation was supposed to protect the church FROM the state, and a gym teacher who was prepared to send me to the office for not standing during the pledge until I explained that my allegiance was to Jesus and not a political entity

Vor Monat
Dan Solo Chicago
Dan Solo Chicago

I’m thinking about the ways I learned about race in school in the 90’s. It was probably literature. Huckleberry Finn, To Kill A Mockingbird (I had seen the movie many times before reading the book). Then I high school it was The Color Purple, Malcom X, and finally Native Son. In between all that was listening to hip hop obsessively to the point it was like majoring in sociology. The fact I’m in Chicago also was a major factor in my racial education.

Vor 9 Monate
weirdhousewivesclub
weirdhousewivesclub

As someone who grew up non-white in an overwhelmingly white, middle-class area - one that had a very good school system, I was forced to address race immediately because my white PEERS made me very aware that I was different, because I was one of only a few non-white students in my class for a while. From bullying over my name and my parents, to questions and teachers singling me out as though I would know everything about Asia even though my family was not from that particular country, it is absurd that these people are acting so fragile about their children being taught nothing but the actual real history of this country and its current state of affairs.

Vor 9 Monate
Nyemba
Nyemba

Imagine

Vor 2 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@DameDench's kerchief that Aaron person has NEVER studied a lick of CRT in his life and you know it. 🤣 A typical stunt though. And what the Republikkklans are doing with CRT is pure racist propaganda. But that's to be expected from the party that is home to, and supported by, all of America's hate groups. All that evil is certainly not voting Democratic. They've been reduced to appealing to hate for their votes. THEY'RE SO DESPERATE to cling to power.

Vor 2 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@DameDench's kerchief the CRT controversy is the same tactic that has been used for 100s of years. I'm sure you're more than aware of how racism contributed to the prohibition of cannabis in America when they outlawed it decades ago. Scared the sheets off em. But that's old news. Today we have CRT. Sometimes I really do despise white people and sometimes imagine boiling many many many of them in oil. But let me perish the thought 🤔

Vor 2 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@Fred D Sims this person is just like the rest of them. They will spew and spew but can never explain their point of view. This whole CRT fake controversy is just racist propaganda. Just like those politicians from decades ago (one in particular who's name I can't remember), who used racist fear mongering to get marijuana banned by propagating that it causes demonic sexual urges in black men and causes them to attack white women. Can't remember his name, I'll have to look it up. They bought all that BS propaganda then and I can't believe that they are still doing it today. Hard to believe

Vor 2 Monate
Fred D Sims
Fred D Sims

@Nina Daly Easy to make assertions without facts. What is "slanted"? Just curious about your interpretation of your "facts".

Vor 3 Monate
ContactMsw
ContactMsw

A much healthier and honest approach towards the stated goal of "teaching about racism", would be to start with the decoration that to have racist, bigoted ideas is part of human nature and found in every culture & race on earth. Then, explain our history in terms of how the racist ideas were used to hurt minority groups. The ending should be to explain that by being aware of our tendency to coalesce around people similar to ourselves we can better gaurd against the development of bigoted ideas.

Vor 6 Monate
Filip Andersson
Filip Andersson

I remember watching a documentary about the holocaust where they showed real footage of corpses being thrown into a mass grave by soldiers. I think some of my classmates cried at that scene. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch, but to me, it was that documentary that drove home just how terrible the holocaust was. Banning that kind of material from schools just seems like an awful, or even dangerous idea.

Vor 11 Monate
Lisa Legato and the Noyz
Lisa Legato and the Noyz

@lakoncers13 If you want your kids to pray to God, just send them to Christian school.

Vor 3 Tage
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

It’s not about bannîng material or ideas, it’s about teaching history in an unbiased way, that also doesn’t blame anyone today for things they didn’t do. History has been taught in schools for a long time, slavery, oppression, segregation…. If anything the only downplaying going on today in schools is the suffering of so many others across the globe and throughout all time. Slavery has existed for thousands of years throughout the globe. It has existed as a form of indentured servitude with some rights and a specific timeframe. It also existed as brutal slavery where minor infractions were harshly punished. That doesn’t mean the indentured servants always had it better. Sometimes their contracts were resold adding more years to their contract without their consent (so for example 20 years became 40 and if resold again even became life). Another way they kept indentured women for life is by keeping them pregnant and extending their years till they could no longer pay it off (I’ll let you imagine how they forced them to get pregnant). Something else to consider is in North America the majority of slaves were actually the Native Tribes/First Nations people until the mid 1700s. Then Africans and their descendants became the majority of people enslaved in North America until 1865 (that’s just over 100 years). Still horrific, still wrong but important part of history to know. In Africa itself people try to make slavery sound like people enslaved were treated as one of the family but this portrayal is far from the truth and the brutality of slavery was and is still today going on in parts of Africa. Other parts of the world as well still have slavery today. Another exaggeration often portrayed is that the Arab slave trade slaves were treated better but that is also untrue. Just one example only disproves this myth, which is their slaves were castrated. Europeans were also enslaved in Africa, between 1 million and 1.5 million were taken in the Barbary slave trade. The Vikings (as well as others) were known to kíll the slave when the slave owner died to serve in the afterlife. This idea that one group of people suffered far worse than anyone else isn’t true and just goes to show if anything American schools focus too little on slavery everywhere else and for everyone else. An argument for whíte privilege and teaching CRT specifically is an that argument is much better suited for the 1950s or 1800s but not today. The concept of “white privilege” was a poorly written hypothetical concept, not a peer reviewed theory. It was popularized by a pseudo-intellectual named Peggy Mcintosh, she was far from an expert on the subject she wrote about. I don’t disagree that systemic racism is historically real, nor do I make the argument oppression never existed but the concept of “white privilege” doesn’t accurately describe the events of the past (or take into account diversity of cultures within what we now call “white”). A better concept to describe systemic injustice is simply to say “oppression”. Throughout history, ruling elites and/or majority populations have oppressed the minority population and/or the poor. There is a danger that by talking about inequality as an all-consuming phenomenon, we will end up creating an inaccurate image portrayal that all people of one race in all situations and all contexts are benefiting from unearned advantages. When we talk about inequality, it’s important to understand that is not the status of all individuals from any single race, nor is it at all times. Another often overlooked danger is blaming all people of one race for all racial injustice throughout history. By virtue of birth an entire race is now responsible for the horrific crimes committed by some in the past. By virtue of birth, because of your skin color, your voice should now be silenced (you are not allowed to speak against violence in our communities)... and this isn’t racist?? Fighting racism with racism isn’t goIng to lead to a better society for all (a “we” society). Let’s also not overlook who is number one in income and education in the US, it isn’t whíte people. Which by your portrayal of our society (and others like you) should be impossible, instead it’s true that whíte people are not number one and disproves this notion that our entire country is set up where only one race is able to benefit. Teaching children that an entire system is against them or if they do succeed it’s because they had privilege undermines the very values America in fact does have. Where anyone can be successful and the only one that can hold you back is yourself. Want to succeed? Start with three things, get an education (don’t drop out of high school), two parent households (have a child stay there and help raise your child), and don’t commit críme(s) (especially víolent crímes). The same group that is number one in the US leads in all of these categories. Some bonus things are - if you do go to college don’t get a soft subject degree, get one in engineering or in a medical field. Set goals and raise your children with high expectations while allowing them to be children (be loving, kind and affectionate with your child)…. This is about teaching that success can be achieved by everyone. This is about teaching our society is “we”, not us versus them. This isn’t a fight about teaching history at all, this is actually a fight over keeping our children from being brainwashed into a myopic distorted view of the world today and of themselves. This is about teaching our values to our own children and teaching them they can be successful. That the only one that can hold you back in life is yourself.

Vor 2 Monate
boudecia22
boudecia22

That's not the issue. The issue is doing REAL time education, telling one part of the class you are the privileged and oppressor, and the rest are victims. Thats what parents don't want. Teaching history is good and absolutely essential. The good, the bad and the horrific, but putting past labels onto today's children and assigning THEM responsibility of a racist, or fascist, is absolutely wrong.

Vor 2 Monate
Suspiro del Moro
Suspiro del Moro

The people who are fighting the hardest to keep our children from learning about slavery and the Holocaust the people trying the hardest to turn America into a place where both of those things could happen again.

Vor 2 Monate
Daisy Fish
Daisy Fish

Dude John Oliver is ill educated. I studied CRT at university level. It does teach people to view society as entirely structurally racist, that every single interaction ought to be viewed through a racial lens, and that any disparity is due to racism. The application of this is children are being taught to view themselves as victims and oppressors this is just fact. No one not only teacher has a problem teaching history as it happened or talks on racism. But people have an issue with the more divisive and less substantial elements of it being taught as fact.

Vor 2 Monate
impossichannel
impossichannel

Teacher should have asked the students "ok, who wants to play Oregon Trail on Hard Mode?" and made those kids the "freed slaves going west". There's an honest interpretation of what happened without separating kids by their actual skin colors while teaching them the hardships imposed on Black and other "non-whites" during that time period. And being able to demonstrate additional challenges black families would/could have faced on the already treacherous road west is a way to open discussion on what life was like for all peoples looking for a "better life" out west.

Vor 9 Monate
FEI WILD
FEI WILD

I don't know bout y'all but the fact that a class that teaches about systematic oppresion is getting oppressed by the system should prove that it is correct in the first place.

Vor 8 Monate
Ryan P. Hofer Jr
Ryan P. Hofer Jr

If I had never been able to watch lessons in my history classes from holocaust survivors I dont think I would be as empathetic as I am today. I recall one of my teachers showing my class videos about blood diamonds in Africa, with their hands chopped off, stuff about the Iran-Contra affair, and some videos on civil rights. Despite this teacher being vocally supportive about some pretty draconian school laws he would definitely be a proponent against this idiotic scare.

Vor 8 Monate
Sharon Barry
Sharon Barry

I am always amazed by the right wings choice to quote Martin Luther King but refuse to educate children on who Martin Luther King was. And what he fought for.

Vor 9 Monate
CjCam
CjCam

@Lugosi I think you might've missed the comment where I posted a link to a video.

Vor 5 Monate
CjCam
CjCam

@Lugosi claims in the video.

Vor 5 Monate
CjCam
CjCam

@Lugosi Funnily enough, Some More News just did an hour long piece about the american educational system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVXk2GqhUK4 They cite all their sources so you can check them yourself if you're skeptical of any claims.

Vor 5 Monate
CjCam
CjCam

@Lugosi I was actually an intern for a school district which is piloting SEL, doing analyses of teacher reflections and student outcomes. Students report being much happier after a year of doing SEL than the year prior. They feel more connected to classmates, and are better at reading and interpreting social situations and cues. Its a very beneficial program for students. Teachers report less burnout and a greater ability to address student needs, and overall feel more connected to their students. Please don't re-dress things you don't understand as woke or whatever. It makes you look bad.

Vor 5 Monate
CjCam
CjCam

@Nina Daly and this: https://youtu.be/O4ciwjHVHYg

Vor 5 Monate
Britta Buender
Britta Buender

One lesson from school I remember best is when our history teacher read us excerpts of what happened at concentration camps. We were all horrified. I remember how unusually quiet it was. No one talked, no one did anything. The only sound was the voice of the teacher telling us about the worst things humans are capable of. We weren't comfortable. But it was essential, because Never Again

Vor 11 Monate
Joyful Sorrow
Joyful Sorrow

"Never again. I mean, why would we use the SAME method of hurting, killing, traumatising and torturing people when we can find OTHER ways."

Vor 3 Monate
kevinkilbane2007
kevinkilbane2007

@Erick Tellez... But that is nothing like what happened in the 1940s Europe. Ya cnut

Vor 4 Monate
Kill Me
Kill Me

My money is on that it is going to happen again, perhaps in multiple countries, with America being one of them. Half the country wants it.

Vor 5 Monate
Roelof Jacobs
Roelof Jacobs

@Jay Andgato Regarding your statement: "I don't believe for one second that the particular (white) people we have seen are opposing it for that reason or for any right reasons" Seen where? And who do you mean with the 'particular (white) people'? I can name plenty of white people who make all sorts of useful arguments against CRT, or at least what has become of it when it escaped academia. Thus my question. And how sure are you that what you see, might be a part of the problems of polarization? ___ With polarization I think I see more and more debates moving from "who is right" to "who is righteous". And one way to rally people behind "the righteous cause", is to point to all the evil on the other side. This also means that pointing towards sensible arguments made by someone from "the other team", becomes heresy as with such actions you undermine the noble fight. To be clear, I think I see this polarization happening on both sides. Plenty of examples where you see firebrand preachers saying things like "the liberals this..." or "the lefties that...", pointing to one or two examples to underline their claim, while claiming that the cherry picked examples are representative for "the left" or "the liberals".

Vor 7 Monate
Jay Andgato
Jay Andgato

@Roelof Jacobs CRT may very well not be the best way to fight racism. However, I don't believe for one second that the particular (white) people we have seen are opposing it for that reason or for any right reasons. You have a point that the other (black) scholars who have knowledge of education and oppose CRT should be heard.

Vor 7 Monate
GottaWannaDance
GottaWannaDance

This was excellent John. Thank You.

Vor 2 Monate
Russel Murray
Russel Murray

I can't thank you enough all love all respect to the whole crew

Vor 6 Monate
Triple Parakeetshoes
Triple Parakeetshoes

I teach literature at the collegiate level. I have never had to teach a lesson on racism to children. But I feel like, instead of eye color, what not have the students draw numbers and divide the class that way? That lesson seems far less likely to backfire.

Vor 6 Monate
TIGHTT88
TIGHTT88

What a great discussion!

Vor 9 Monate
Kevin Kolpack
Kevin Kolpack

Back in high school, one of our U.S. history classes taught about the old boarding schools where Native American kids were forcibly "assimilated" into white American culture through violence. Did I feel uncomfortable, as a white kid? Heck yes, just like I get uncomfortable watching true crime shows, reading about black lynchings, or learning about Nazi death camps. Was I made to feel guilty or responsible for these horrible schools? Not in the slightest. And I'm glad I learned about them. We can't become a better society if we don't examine the mistakes of the past and discuss why they were wrong in the first place.

Vor 11 Monate
A1 Dex
A1 Dex

@Felwinter no it hasn’t. You just watched a half hour long video about the very subject and you still believe that lie? Media literacy is lost on you.

Vor 25 Tage
Doctor Double Dakka
Doctor Double Dakka

@B Bodziak So if crazy right-wingers ban it in K-12, they're not even doing anything then?

Vor 10 Monate
Andrea Brown
Andrea Brown

@Kevin John You mean the same "right" who tried to ban Sharia Law in the states about 20 years ago even when there was no evidence that Sharia Law existed in the U.S.! That right? Clearly an attempt at propagating anti-Muslim sentiments. And nope, I'm not Muslim, but I do know the game.

Vor 10 Monate
Dario Carraresi
Dario Carraresi

@Raptango_NA Alright, time for my usual test. Step one: define "Critical Race Theory". What definition you use doesn't matter; but refusing to provide one is an automatic failure.

Vor 10 Monate
Raptango_NA
Raptango_NA

@Emerson Taylor it's not history, it's a cheap tactic at ideological manipulation of children to indoctrinate them into a leftist value system and it's improper. By your own definition, crt is systemic racism. But in reality, crt is just more racism under the guise of "history". Its not history...it's anti white racism TODAY because the Democrat party and liberals want to pander to black people to keep the voting bloc

Vor 10 Monate
M T
M T

I simply spoke to elderly people about their life experiences. Several had memorabilia from past world events. I had photos stored of various items. I worked with antique dealers in the past. We had interesting conversations and respected the history from different experiences. We were calmly discussing ideas of neighborly kindness that helped people cope with tragedy.

Vor 8 Monate
Mustafa Emre Basaran
Mustafa Emre Basaran

One of the best segments John Oliver ever put on. Very nicely articulated.

Vor Monat
Pyagrl*16
Pyagrl*16

As a school teacher, I remember first being introduced to CRT as a way for teachers to learn how to recognize their own biases while teaching. The first time I read, "they're teaching this to kids," I thought I'd misread it or misunderstood. But then as I realized it was being said that we're teaching it to kids, I was genuinely confused. Now I see, saying that was part of a plan.

Vor 6 Monate
Mr Rooster
Mr Rooster

@Scott Cebulski The University of IL which is one of the top schools and most advanced schools in the US would never mention or teach such things, it's below them. This is happening in public schools and it's not all public schools. It's explicitly being taught in inner city low income schools. The rest of the country doesn't even get to see it. My guess is their is a reason this is being pushed only to certain areas of certain types. It's probably to generate or maintain division.

Vor Monat
GangstaMuffin24
GangstaMuffin24

I think you're confusing "Critical Race Theory" with "Culturally Responsive Teaching."

Vor Monat
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

I highly recommend everyone study all sides of an issue before parroting one sided talking points. https://youtu.be/cfmpnGV0IGc https://youtu.be/fg57_CnEmbg https://youtu.be/zeHqZT-NsxE

Vor 2 Monate
Biggins G
Biggins G

@Scott Cebulski You should consider yourself lucky then. But obviously a quick Google search will tell you CRT is most certainly real.

Vor 2 Monate
Biggins G
Biggins G

@Scot Moorhouse You dont even know what CRT is.

Vor 2 Monate
AV Apostle
AV Apostle

As an adult, I picked up the book Tell My Horse by Zora Neale Hurston. I was blown away by the richness of Black community and history. We were never taught that in school. My mother was an immigrant from Epirus. We watched Roots in the seventies when I was a child. That was the extent of learning about Black history. I think its important to teach our children how to co-exist peacefully and learn about each other's perspective. Nothing wrong with having empathy for each others pain and history.

Vor 8 Monate
Domenic Papa
Domenic Papa

I am an Australian in my 60's. When I was little I remember hearing conversations from grandparents about our First Nation people and how they where dying out and would soon be gone. Then at school over the years we learnt more and more about how they where treated by white people. We where taught about the attempted genocide to be honest. To get to the point, knowing our history and understanding how we treated our First nation people did not make me ashamed of being white. There is nothing I can do about the colour of my skin. What it has given me is knowledge and understanding. I can see how I have benefited from what we took from them. It is a waste of time feeling guilty about it. But what I can do is take this knowledge and use my voice, my actions, to ensure that there is some remedy, some equalizations made to ensure that they no longer suffer from the abuse we delt upon them.

Vor 9 Monate
ILoveBeingGay
ILoveBeingGay

I would love to live in Sydney Australia again. Lived there for years and what a helluva people. If my family weren't way over here in the Home of the Brave Racists and Land of The Pee, I'd still be Australia.

Vor 2 Monate
ILoveBeingGay
ILoveBeingGay

@G S New Zealand! Love y'all. Lived in Sydney Australia for 4 years and it was a completely different planet for a black American. Met many kiwis in Australia too. Loved the aboriginals and loved the Maori people. Loved the white New Zealanders and I loved the white Australians. Yep when it comes to cool white people ( and I've done a bit of travelling outside the land of the free and the home of the fascist insurrectionists 🤣), throughout my little adventures, The kiwis and Australians and the Germans are lovely people. But Australians are the coolest and that's was my second home.Correction: my FIRST! 😂🤣 Nothing homey about a huge percentage of these Indoctrinates . Felt much more at home over there. I missed the beautiful white people over in that part of the world. Can't we do some kind of trade out or at least send us some more genuine and authentic white people over here? Cant y'all give us a break by taking some of our most acutely indoctrinated off our hands and into new Zealand and Australia? Send us the real deal. We're talking about 400 years of NURTURED indoctrination over here. THAT'S not something you wanna play with or be surrounded by 24/7. And we promise to take them back if you suffer any domestic attacks on your government or if racism over there suddenly spikes off the Richter scale and gets outta control like a swarming plague of locust. 🤣😂😁🤣🤣😂🤭👋

Vor 2 Monate
Abby Abroad
Abby Abroad

I an American abroad and have been intrigued by how open Australians and Kiwis are about the treatment of indigenous persons, without taking it as a personal modern-day indictment of themselves as individuals.

Vor 5 Monate
Mike Huff
Mike Huff

@Kristi Ford exactly. The Christian will tell you about the golden rule. I think the golden rule is egotistical. Don’t assume others want the same thing you do, especially in how to be treated with respect. Ask them instead ❤️

Vor 6 Monate
Terrie Cotham
Terrie Cotham

Well said

Vor 6 Monate
Krazee Ladee
Krazee Ladee

"This absolute trombone slide of a sentence" is now my favourite expression ever.

Vor 5 Monate
Shek1nah
Shek1nah

history also means remembering the atrocities that happened in the past, learn from them so that they won´t repeat itself.

Vor 8 Monate
Tracii Kunkel
Tracii Kunkel

The blue eye/brown eye classroom exercise wasn't thought out well, but it was a replication of a classic teacher experiment done to teach her all-white classroom about racism after MLK was shot. I'm sure the teacher was just replicating this and didn't stop to think about how that was going to play out.

Vor 8 Monate
Jon Nichols
Jon Nichols

Can we give your writer her own show 😅. That was amazing.

Vor 9 Monate
Nancy DiTomaso
Nancy DiTomaso

The "blue eyes/brown eyes" exercise which was intended to teach how quickly people respond to how they are treated was first used in an all White classroom in Iowa, where the color of the children's eyes was not related to race/ethnicity, so the exercise took something that was, in a sense, random, and created groups that then learned about how prejudice works. The same exercise has been done hundreds (or maybe thousands of times) often with White adults, and the results are the same. Note that the exercise covered multiple days, with those with blue eyes being the subordinate group the first day and those with brown eyes being subordinate the second day. What was surprising and most impactful in the learning was that the same behaviors emerged each day from those who were in the dominant position and from those who were in the subordinate position. Those in the dominant position were mean and disrespectful toward those in the subordinate position, while those in the subordinate position exhibited hesitancy, difficulty following directions and learning, and an aura of depression, even though they knew it was an exercise and even though they had changed places from one day to the next. I have shown videos of this experiment in my classes on diversity, equity, and inclusion, and it has always been one of the most impactful parts of the class, with students talking about it with regard to how much they learned that they did not know long after we got past that session.

Vor 9 Monate
Echinoidea
Echinoidea

Jane Elliot abused children without their parents consent and the blue eyes experiment was NOT endorsed by the professional psychology establishment., It was experimenting on children and Jane Elliot should have gone to jail for it.

Vor 3 Monate
MasterBow360
MasterBow360

Are there any records of a PTA performing this?

Vor 3 Monate
Kayla Wilson
Kayla Wilson

I had to do brown eye/blue eye experiment in HS in world history. It was not an all white classroom and there were no POC with blue eyes (I am native w black eyes and was one of two Caucasians in the brown eye group). I also had to learn about the Stanford Prison Experiments in AP Psych. I’d 100% suggested not segregating class for days and instead study the prison experiment.

Vor 3 Monate
Fred D Sims
Fred D Sims

@Conor M. H. One day it's Brown eyes, then the next day it switches to blue eyes (or vice versa). When some of the dominant group has to switch to the less dominant group, they start to cry because they know how people will feel about them and treat them. And I think that is the fear of whites in this country as they soon will become a minority group in this country.

Vor 3 Monate
Denise Engle
Denise Engle

Excellent. Well said. Now amend your post to cite the creator of this experiment. No proper discussion on the origins of racism is complete without her name Jane Eliott is very much alive and well. I urge anyone interested to check out the many videos on YouTube about her and her controversial experiment.

Vor 4 Monate
R.E.A.L Brand
R.E.A.L Brand

Thank you for your service🫡 keeping the spotlight on racism towards US black people ✊🏾✅

Vor 8 Monate
Akram Nimer
Akram Nimer

I'm beginning to suspect that Mr. Oliver is actually delivering PSAs disguised as comedy.

Vor 9 Monate
Luis Lopez
Luis Lopez

There is a substantial difference in feelings and thoughts about this episode watching it before and after the Buffalo shooting.

Vor 8 Monate
Mac of All Trades
Mac of All Trades

The takeaway from this is pretty straightforward: white evangelicals have a remarkable propensity for shitting on everything their purported Savior stood for. The fact that He loves them anyway is emblematic of how meritless they truly are. They seem determined to guarantee the necessity of His sacrifice through their own vile, incessant inhumanity. Meanwhile, the rest of Christendom just hopes to be less of a burden to Him, and a few actually still put up a fight for righteousness. A few of those few are even actual believers.

Vor 9 Monate
Dani Tho
Dani Tho

I grew up the only black kid in class. I remember, in second or third grade, the teacher gave us an assignment about family seals or something. We had to present it and tell our history. I had no idea what she was talking about and I knew my family didn't have one. But my mom and I spent a lot of time getting our family tree together, some old family stories, etc, to present. So day of class comes, we're getting ready to present. I was so excited to share my history. We're going up one at a time. Comes my turn, the teacher skips me entire. She looked dead at me, got this panicked look on her face, and skipped me. And I KNEW it was because I was black. The thing is I don't think she meant to be disrespectful or uninclusive. I think she literally just panicked, didn't quite know what to do, and skipped me as a way to save me from not having anything to share. I was too young to really know what to do at the time. I wish I had been a little older because I would have spoken up and told her I wanted to share my history. I wish I had. It was important to me. But alas.

Vor 11 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@Orange Pants My sentiments exactly. Good riddance

Vor 2 Monate
Orange Pants
Orange Pants

@Punkanelly Lovejoy yawn 🥱

Vor 2 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@Orange Pants What's the point in speaking 5 languages if you obviously have nothing to say in one of them. Do the other languages lend themselves towards more creative forms of expression . One would most certainly hope so. 😁🌈

Vor 2 Monate
Punkanelly Lovejoy
Punkanelly Lovejoy

@Orange Pants Another one of your faults is obviously a very short term memory, for it was you who began bragging about speaking 5 languages? That don't impress me much. Let's see what you can do with just one. I haven't seen anything new or original or cute or interesting from you yet. 😁🌈

Vor 2 Monate
Orange Pants
Orange Pants

@Punkanelly Lovejoy can you write a poem about your ad hominem rhetoric? Something like I'm smart and you are stupid your ugly I'm beauty... You seem good at it 😂👍

Vor 2 Monate
cloudwhisker
cloudwhisker

I had that conversation with my mom that the imaginary little girl had, that I was ashamed to be white. But that's not because they talked about racism in history, but rather because they skirted the topic. Half explaining something to a child is sometimes worse than not bringing it up at all. I remember being taught certain things in class and told they were wrong, but never given a reason, and sometimes I would draw strange conclusions about those topics.

Vor 8 Monate
Dominik Lehn
Dominik Lehn

With the eye color thing... The better option if you wanna do that and, i think the original one too, is to put BLUE eyed people as the designated "discriminated against" of course, it's an experiment to be taken with extreme precaution either way

Vor 5 Monate
Kartik Aman Saraf
Kartik Aman Saraf

That “Sam I am” parody of Ted Cruz was amazing. God, never change John Oliver

Vor 4 Monate
Davere Tash
Davere Tash

"...and get rid of any organization that has held us together for a long time." Many lies are being told. I want to laugh, to experience joy; but this is flat-out heartbreaking.

Vor 4 Monate
Katarina
Katarina

In my country we went to a concentration camp run by our Nazi collaborators in *middle school*, you can bet it caused anguish and discomfort but I always thought it was a very important experience, and I remember I wanted to know the truth of what happened, no matter how terrible. There are people who like to downplay the horrors of WW2 in my country but I like to think most of us kids who saw those letters and clothes and names and little pieces of life from people who were brutally killed, won't believe in those who deny it, and won't forget about it so easily. It's important to have these uncomfortable conversations to make sure we don't repeat the same horrible mistakes.

Vor 9 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Jeremy Smith Why waste even a second teaching children about stupid, meaningless race crap that has no value when you could teach more Mathematics instead?

Vor 5 Monate
Jeremy Smith
Jeremy Smith

@Aaron Landry So do you always throw out the baby with the bath water? Yes, the US public education system leaves much to be desired, but that is primarily because there are no "US public schools" like you state in your straw man statement. I never argued against practical education, like being able to do taxes, as practical math and life skills are something that middle schoolers here should know. Taxes, starting a bank account, how interest works, an individual's rights as a citizen, an employee, and a consumer are all things that students should leave public primary education knowing, but as long as education in the US is segmented on a state by state basis with very little federal unity, framework, or enforcement then those items will never be taught as there are enough private interests throwing money at state representatives to make sure students never learn anything about how things like a credit card actually work, well evidenced by the near countless cases of state colleges pairing up with banking institutions and handing out what essentially become credit cards as mandatory student IDs. All that being said, and much more left to be said, we simply can't shrug and let the system burn to the ground. The educational system is key to subsequent generation's success as an uneducated workforce will destroy a country almost faster than anything else. The system need to be improved and unified, not constantly defunded and altered due to insane culture war issues. Lastly, "Since when were you Leftists praising US public schools?" Considering teacher's unions are one of the strongest forces of organized labor in the country that have been only kept alive by "leftists" when Nixon, Regan, and their successors would have seen them abolished would be the best place to start to realize your assertion is absolutely unhinged and could not be more wrong.

Vor 5 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Jeremy Smith Since when were you Leftists praising US public schools? Last time I checked, they’re still ranked as bottom of the barrel globally and here you are babbling on about some race based conspiracy. How about we teach our kids how to do taxes first?

Vor 5 Monate
CannibalisticSqvirrel4ever
CannibalisticSqvirrel4ever

Very important. But it won't be enough to change the mind of a fool.

Vor 5 Monate
ProkofNY
ProkofNY

@Le Bonk But that is *exactly* my point: just because some university scholars label their ideas “social justice” “anti racism” or “diversity and inclusion” this doesn’t mean we should take the labels at face value and assume that theirs is the one and only path toward justice. Does it? Here is my issue with the culturally responsive framework: 1. The vision/goals for students being 2/3 political (p. 8), which is reflective of the framework at large. The emphasis on the politicization of education is unprecedented. 2. Excessive mention of power structures/dynamics, marginalization/privilege, structural inequities (it is pointless to provide page numbers as these ideas are alluded to on every single page). There is no denying that some groups have been marginalized in this country based on their immutable characteristics and that students must learn about such discrimination. To suggest otherwise would be ludicrous. Yet—for all intents and purposes—understanding the world based on power dynamics appears to be _the_ educational imperative based on this framework. 3. The “critical conscious lens” or “critical lens” characteristic of critical pedagogy is mentioned copiously (i.e., pages 8, 15), which is not surprising, this billing itself as a critical pedagogy (p. 16). The critical conscious lens (critical pedagogy, critical theory, CRT) is a separate construct from critical thinking (enlightened liberalism). 4. Excessive focus on implicit biases which are impossible to objectively assess and/or address. 5. Other than the inclusion of student-based curricula (which I don’t entirely oppose) there is no specific mention of how current educational shortcomings in math/reading will be addressed. 6. For all the talk about diversity, this is limited to diversity of identity. Diversity of identity is important, but so is diversity of perspectives and the two must not be conflated (the reason being CRT/“social justice” proponents proclivity to dismiss dissenting black/brown voices); understanding different perspectives is crucial for critical thinking and objectivity. How will this be at all possible when k-12 education is politicized to such a degree and from such an early/vulnerable age or if students are constantly encouraged to used the specific critical conscious lens (rather than understanding multiple diverse perspectives and reaching individual conclusions)? 7. For all the talk about power dynamics, there is no mention of ideals such empiricism, rationality, objectivity whist the pursuit of truth used to be the goal of liberal education until very recently. To politicize education at such a early/vulnerable age has little to do with objectivity and critical thinking and has much to do with indoctrination.

Vor 7 Monate
G.M.A.S
G.M.A.S

John Oliver; you are a genius!! A comedy genius and a valuable source of real information, told how it is. You do my country proud sir!!

Vor 9 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@RB None of them are any good, that’s why ratings are crap. Have you just never watched quality content on like YouTube or Netflix?

Vor 3 Monate
RB
RB

@Aaron Landry he’s one of the good ones tho

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

John Oliver is a late night TV talk show host, he’s as much of a genius as Jimmy Kimmel is a comedian

Vor 5 Monate
Bloodweeper
Bloodweeper

Any good citizens should be equally proud of and disgusted by their nations

Vor 8 Monate
Xander Scaul
Xander Scaul

If you don't learn from the mistakes made by previous generations, you risk new generations repeating those same mistakes.

Vor 8 Monate
Le Bonk
Le Bonk

That's just it. The people masterminding this panic don't consider them mistakes.

Vor 8 Tage
Andreas 90
Andreas 90

Everytime I feel down I see the absurdness that is going on in the US news and I feel better

Vor 8 Monate
Syed Naqvi
Syed Naqvi

The biggest shock factor when going to a white friends house as a kid wass hearing how they speak, or rather yell at, their parents 😂.

Vor 7 Monate
Leslie Woolnough
Leslie Woolnough

I met a native girl that left end of grade 7 because of a nasty mean teacher. She was living her best life and glad she left

Vor 8 Monate
Sophie
Sophie

Actually want real students’ stories about CRT on blast. Point out that this ISNT taught in schools (and should be). Real stories of lessons kids sat through and what it taught them, like we only get glimpses of

Vor 9 Monate
GeekGirl _Luv
GeekGirl _Luv

If you’re not uncomfortable in history class you’re probably doing it wrong. A lot of history IS uncomfortable, but it’s still important to know.

Vor 6 Monate
Jon Symons
Jon Symons

"when was learning and growing as a person ever really comfortable" is by and far the most honest thing I ever heard

Vor 11 Monate
Dario Carraresi
Dario Carraresi

@José Ángel "Penguin Ibram X. Kendi defines what it means to be an antiracist"

Vor 10 Monate
José Ángel
José Ángel

@Dario Carraresi What's the full one then?

Vor 10 Monate
Dario Carraresi
Dario Carraresi

@José Ángel You cut out 90% of that Kendi quote. Try again.

Vor 10 Monate
José Ángel
José Ángel

@loki2240 Ibram X. Kendi “The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” The mask fell off a long time ago, about the true goals of CTR, to discriminate, and castigate innocent people for what their ancestor did. "We seem to be moving steadily in the direction of a society where no one is responsible for what he himself did, but we are all responsible for what somebody else did, either in the present or in the past." Thomas Sowell. That phrase describe this whole school of" thought"

Vor 10 Monate
José Ángel
José Ángel

You can, liberals called "safe space".

Vor 10 Monate
ChronoAlone
ChronoAlone

If we're so scared of future generations learning about the racist institution that is our country, that's probably a sign that there's definitely something going on. The innocent don't protest this much when the truth is at stake.

Vor 8 Monate
Akhenaten
Akhenaten

Yup

Vor 8 Monate
Cayce
Cayce

Many people don't know how to comprehend and sit with unpleasant or foreign emotions. It's incredibly important to teach kids that it's okay to feel uncomfortable or sad, and also, how to process those emotions

Vor 6 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Cayce Your lack of knowledge on wealth disparities globally and domestically is very evident by the fact that you assume I know nothing about them because I didn’t mention them in a conversation about *AMERICAN* socioeconomics. What kind of idiot babbles on about irrelevant countries and continents when the US is the only country of topic?

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Cayce “Asian” as defined by the US Census Bureau. “Jewish” would also be defined by them (if chosen as a single race or part of “White”). If you don’t like their definitions, it doesn’t matter, because they’re the defining authority by the US Constitution. You could try to amend the Constitution, but you’ll need 3/4ths Congressional approval for that. Confirmation bias refers to the exact same phenomena I was referencing. I learned about it extensively in Behavioral Psychology and referenced it here because Psychology is only effective if you get the other person to realize what they’re doing wrong

Vor 3 Monate
Cayce
Cayce

@Aaron Landry I believe that in your first sentence you are trying to define "confirmation bias," which leads perfectly into your subsequent lines. Let's set aside your interpretation of what CRT is, when you refer to "Asian," what grouping of people are you implying that term encapsulates? Asia is a continent, and thusly, has many countries. Your understanding of the many wealth disparities amongst those countries is frightening. So, yes, "factual data disproving preconceived notions" is important.

Vor 3 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

Many people also don’t know how to sit with and comprehend factual data disproving their preconceived notions. This is why you and proponents of CRT cannot ever include “Asian” into the conversation, because they’re richer than whites on average, destroying the “white supremacist” narrative

Vor 3 Monate
JCS In CA
JCS In CA

I have been reading history books of all kinds for well over 40 years. I really had no idea of the many WRONGS done by America until long after I was out of school. My entire childhood education on world history and American history was a complete joke. The shows that were on TV were completely incorrect and biased. My school books were garbage, completely wrong on many subjects. America has done some pretty awful and horrible things, unforgiveable things. And none of that was ever mentioned. The American education system in my day was made up almost entirely of biased propaganda and lies. I say this as a true patriot, someone who has actually served this country directly or indirectly for over 40 years and continues to serve. Someone who is actually loyal to this great nation. I think the main thing that makes America great is that we can openly criticize the government and yet still serve it. I still believe in America. That is in fact how we actually serve America, by correcting it when its wrong not by covering it up and denying it. The racists and right wing fascists in America always try to demonize anyone that openly criticizes Americas wrongs. These losers call themselves patriots and call anyone that disagrees with them or that criticizes America's wrongs as unpatriotic. We all know who the real traitorous, insurrectionist, anti-American people are, they self-ID every time they open their mouths to speak. They are also the ones who deny all of America's wrongs. They are Americas liars. I think schools should teach the TRUTH. Columbus didn't discover America, but he did enslave and inflict genocide on the actual natives of the Caribbean islands. He did do that. He wiped them out and then they were replaced later by African slaves. And Americans did inflict genocide on Native American tribes long after Columbus. If you bother to research exactly what constitutes genocide then by every definition of genocide the simple fact is that America did in fact inflict genocide on Native Americans in just about every form genocide takes. That is a historical fact. Read the book American Genocide if you want to get educated on the atrocities committed by Americans - in their own words. Irish people were enslaved in America also and were looked on as less than Africans, that did happen. Asians were imprisoned and had their land stolen by whites during the second world war - especially in California - and yet we did not do the same to any German Americans or Italian Americans anywhere else in America. America invaded and started war with Mexico just to steal Mexico's land. America has long history of racism that has impacted our foreign and domestic policies on almost every level. America has also done the RIGHT thing a few times, like the Civil War to end slavery, like women's rights, like equal rights, like the clean air and water acts, like anti-monopoly laws., like workers rights. We should teach that, we should teach the truth and work to educate our children and citizens to get past the bad, to get well. That's what a great nation would do. Just be honest. Why is that so hard?

Vor 6 Monate
Nina Daly
Nina Daly

@MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned Both!

Vor 15 Tage
Nina Daly
Nina Daly

@Zainab Moody History should be taught. HISTORY, not poorly thought out theories that academia has sufficiently discounted to render it baseless. Not including that little fact would be picking and choosing which facts they want and which to discard. There is a lot of history to be taught in school. Should we waste a % of the semester teaching people about eugenics? No, because it’s basis has been scientifically disproven and rejected. It deserves no more that a 5 minute discussion of its relevance. The same could be said for the principles of CRT and “systemic racism.”. What confuses me is who told you that a successful life was as simple as “get an education, have 2 parents, and don’t do violent crimes”?? It is WAY MORE complicated than that, isn’t it? Sorry you were given false expectations but we are all in the same boat today. So you see it’s not that people who don’t achieve success “did something wrong,” they just didn’t choose to do the things it takes to succeed. Sounds like you DID what you needed to do. Why did you make the right choices where others did not? Probably because your parents instilled the importance of an education and a good work ethic in you. The kids that grow up with no guidance, no discipline, no real concern for them, unfortunately, usually lose and get nothing. How is that white peoples fault and what the hell are white people supposed to do about insufficient or narcissistic parenting? Remember, we live in a country where 10% of the people (well represented by all races) have 90% of the wealth and 1-2% of that 10% have 90% of that. This b race argument is about 50 years too late I’m afraid. Again, we are all in the same boat now. Resurrecting racial division and resentment isn’t going to change anything. It is just going to foment hate and inertia as people wait for their problems to be solved by others who have their own problems to deal with. To me it appears this “systemic racism” concept does nothing more that excuse people from taking responsibility for their own choices and behavior. It’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault. NO Americans in general aren’t big on introspection and personal responsibility. That is likely why we’re all going down the toilet…..together.

Vor 15 Tage
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

@Nina Daly My statement or the op?

Vor 15 Tage
Zainab Moody
Zainab Moody

@MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned thanks for your reply. I did re-read your post and realized I blended your post with a previous one. I apologize. I like the way you framed your replies to each of my points. As secretary and treasurer of my debate team, I have to say Well done! That being said, I still have a rebuttal. But I have to sleep.

Vor 15 Tage
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

@Zainab Moody “Don't tell me race is not a huge factor.” - Not in the way you think, that is. Here is a list of examples for you of how our society today promotes open discrimination against “whîte” people and much of it is done using CRT and other wøke ideologies. Obviously this isn’t a full list but let’s look over at least some examples. Also, many of the points below are highlighted and put together on Mr Rufo’s own site. “White identity is inherently racist; white people do not exist outside the system of white supremacy.” Robin DiAngelo “The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” Ibram Kendi “Błack people can’t be racíst.” Michael Eric Dyson “We believe that so long as the white race exists, all movements against what is called ‘racism’ will fail. Therefore, our aim is to abolish the white race.” Noel Ignatiev “If you abolish slavery, you abolish slaveholders. If you want to abolish racial oppression, you do away with whiteness.” Noel Ignatiev In The Isis Papers, Frances Welsing described whíte people as the genetically defective descendants of “albino mutants” She wrote that due to this "defective" mutatíon, they may have been forcíbly expelled from Afríca. She also promoted the belief that “melanin” made błack people superior to whíte people. A Cupertino, California, elementary school forced third-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities, then rank themselves according to their “power and privilege.” They separated the eight-year-old children into oppressors and oppressed. A middle school in Springfield, Missouri, forced teachers to locate themselves on an “oppression matrix,” claiming that white heterosexual Protestant males are inherently oppressors and must atone for their “covert white supremacy.” The Arizona Department of Education created an “equity” toolkit claiming that babies show the first signs of racism at three months old and that white children become full racists—”strongly biased in favor of whiteness”—by age five. The California Department of Education passed an “ethnic studies” curriculum that calls for the “decolonization” of American society. The principal of East Side Community School in New York sent white parents a “tool for action,” which tells them they must become “white traitors” and then advocate for full “white abolition.” The Treasury Department told employees that “all white people” are racist and that children become racist by 3 months A Department of Education-funded conference advocated for “abolition” of American institutions and told whites they must “give up” their “wealth.” The Department of Homeland Security told its white employees that they have been “socialized into oppressor roles.” The State Department, EPA, and VA pressured staff to denounce their “white privilege,” become “co-resistors” against “systemic racism,” and sign “equity pledges.” Lockheed Martin, the nation’s largest defense contractor, sent key executives on a mission to deconstruct their “white male privilege” and encouraged them to atone for their “white male privilege.”  Raytheon, the nation’s second-largest defense contractor, has launched a critical race theory program that encourages white employees to confront their “privilege,” reject the principle of “equality,” and to endorse the “defund the police” movement. Walmart’s training program tells employees that they are guilty of “internalized racial superiority.” A recent survey found that 1 in 6 hiring managers was asked not to hire whîte males. According to a survey published by Resume Builder. Also, about half of all employers have openly admitted to prioritizing all other races over whîte males, putting “qualificatîons” as a secondary priority. Again, this is just the short list and links to much of what I referenced are available on Christopher Rufo’s official site.

Vor 15 Tage
Lindsey Summers
Lindsey Summers

To be fair about the blue eyes/brown eyes exercise, that was done originally by a public school teacher in lilly white Iowa. It was done to prove a point to kids who never experienced racism, and it apparently worked. In mixed company, yeah, you likely will run into issues.

Vor 8 Monate
Qoi Pond
Qoi Pond

Listening to later interviews from Dr. King is honestly heartbreaking. You can see how tired he was, how he was trying to hold onto dying embers. You can see how long the road he was looking down was. RIP, good sir.

Vor 11 Monate
Robert
Robert

@A1 Dex ^ Not an actual trend. And IQ is a genuine measure of intelligence, last I looked. I still don't know how my original comment elicited such a hyperbolic initial response from you (that you've seemingly since deleted). Anyone reading your and my comments above will see that you deleted your comment and then went off the rails.

Vor 23 Tage
A1 Dex
A1 Dex

@Robert LOL 😂 the trend continues of the person valuing their IQ as a genuine measure of intelligence being the absolute dumbest person in the room. It’s okay for you to be stupid, Robert. You’re very obviously insecure about your lack of understanding, but every child grows. You’ll get there eventually, little guy.

Vor 23 Tage
Robert
Robert

@A1 Dex I can pretty much *guarantee* that I'm smarter than you. If you want to whip out IQs and measure them, I'm game any day. Blessings, and go to bed, son.

Vor 24 Tage
A1 Dex
A1 Dex

@Robert it always meant something. You just wish people would stop talking about it. You’re not smart enough to lie about your use of charged language so you actually might just be dangerously unintelligent.

Vor 24 Tage
Robert
Robert

@A1 Dex I remember when that word "racism" meant something. And the good news is that I don't dog whistle; the bad news is that I say very much what's on my mind and that may be worse from your perspective. Blessings.

Vor 24 Tage
Laimbrane
Laimbrane

"Because whenever you hear CRT now, you are not hearing about the academic discipline. You are hearing about a category so broad, it encompasses both the craziest thing in the newspaper, and also - crucially - any conversation about race that someone does not want to have." Nailed it right there. That summarizes the entire purpose and result of this controversy. Don't let people talk about race and racism, and that way we can avoid confronting the problem and thereby avoid having to fix it.

Vor 8 Monate
Möbeltass
Möbeltass

@Laimbrane The episode is called "Critical Race Theory" after all, not "Critical Race Theory has nothing to do with it". But let's agree to disagree then.

Vor 5 Monate
Laimbrane
Laimbrane

@Möbeltass Yeah I didn't walk away from this with the same take.

Vor 5 Monate
Möbeltass
Möbeltass

@Laimbrane Like I said, I'm talking about the academic discipline, not Tucker's interpretation of it, nor anyone's opinion about it. I'm not talking about racism, I'm not talking about the anti-CRT movement, and I'm not talking about legislation. I simply say that CRT is a pseudo-science, but it doesn't come across like that in this episode of Last Week Tonight. And that's a problem.

Vor 5 Monate
Laimbrane
Laimbrane

​@Möbeltass It does and it doesn't. CRT as an academic philosophy is not the same thing as the politicized bastardization of CRT that most conservatives have internalized and the right-wing media has weaponized. If you ask me what I think about CRT, its foundational premise - that the current economic, political, and social discrepancies between races (as they're socio-culturally defined) is due at least in part to U.S. institutions that contain unintended elements of racial bias that continue to propagate today - is accurate, and really hard to honestly argue against. The sorts of responses various writers advocate for taking exist along a spectrum of reasonableness, with people arguing for changing elements of that system being on the reasonable end and people arguing for its complete overhaul being on the more idealistic end. But my opinion of CRT and what CRT actually means is less relevant than how the narrative is being written by the right. Their attack on CRT is like a Trojan Horse, designed to shield a white nationalist agenda behind legitimate concerns of a young legal philosophy. For example, the Brookings Institute (Nov. 2021) noted that while 9 states have passed legislation that was associated with the anti-CRT movement, none of it explicitly bans "Critical Race Theory." "The legislations mostly ban the discussion, training, and/or orientation that the U.S. is inherently racist as well as any discussions about conscious and unconscious bias, privilege, discrimination, and oppression. These parameters also extend beyond race to include gender lectures and discussions." So that's the issue - the anti-CRT agenda is not just anti-CRT, it's against all discussion of any racism, bias, oppression, and discrimination, and using this once-obscure academic discipline to prevent it.

Vor 5 Monate
Möbeltass
Möbeltass

@Laimbrane But never mind "these people", I agree with you when it comes to "these people". I'm talking about CRT. You say that all this fuzz has nothing to do with CRT? That's not how it came across on the video on which we're commenting.

Vor 5 Monate
Ken Panderz
Ken Panderz

if you feel like theres an actual problem with people learning about how a race of people behaved in the past, maybe you have an issue with race that needs addressing.

Vor 8 Monate
Voice of Reason
Voice of Reason

I went to a lot of different types schools and I never had a teacher try and brain wash me. I knew what an opinion was and none of the teachers tried to really pass off any “misinformation” narrative even tho a few of them had really strong opinions.

Vor 8 Monate
Billy R.
Billy R.

It's a mixed bag of cats with schools. My kid's elementary school had a "student mock election" in 2016 where the students had to vote for Clinton or Trump. The school staff influenced this and pretty much if you even though about voting for Trump, they explained to you that he was racist and you were racist if you supported him. Greatest election held in a school ever, amazingly 100% of the entire student body voted they were not racist. I mean for Clinton

Vor 2 Monate
Tattoos4Pants: The Saga
Tattoos4Pants: The Saga

That book that he showed looked so familiar to me until I realized it was an Abeka book, which I was raised on in my Texas school as a kid. Books like that absolutely sanitize history and are dangerous. Also one of our teachers definitely played a video saying that Obama was a secret Muslim, yikes.

Vor 2 Monate
Alternative Plane
Alternative Plane

Man, I always thought those villain monologues in movies where they lay out their entire plan were unrealistic, but I guess the villains really do that irl. These past few years have really shown how realistic those "unrealistic tropes" that we see so often really are

Vor 10 Monate
Dementor333
Dementor333

@Hainabification Of course, it would be ridiculous to think that every single republican is some kind of mustache twirling evil villain. Also that's why I didn't bring up democrats and republicans, because party loyalties shift over time, what matters more is ideology. And while taking a completely absolutist stand can be detrimental, you also have to admit that when one side seems to have consistently supported bad policies historically and still continues to do so, that it may just so happen that the side itself is bad. Even if not everyone supporting them is a bad person, the leadership at the very least is most certainly made up almost exclusively of bad people.

Vor 9 Monate
Hainabification
Hainabification

​@Dementor333I am not arguing against that supporting slavery and segregation is bad, and not like the american democrats are free of the latter either. But you cant take a absolutist stand on other side being totally good and other side being totally bad, even tho they have supported totally bad policies

Vor 9 Monate
Dementor333
Dementor333

@Hainabification Ok then why don't you explain why it was the conservatives who: 1. supported slavery and segregation. 2. opposed and continue to oppose women's rights, gay rights and trans rights.

Vor 9 Monate
Hainabification
Hainabification

@Dementor333 or maybe humans just make it that way because it is easier

Vor 9 Monate
Dementor333
Dementor333

@Hainabification Maybe the world just is more black and white than you think. That is unless you think the slave owners weren't actually bad.

Vor 9 Monate
Barbara Borgeld
Barbara Borgeld

I love you so much, John. Your clarity with spot on humor is delicious. But more importantly, you make me think. Standing ovation on this one.

Vor 7 Monate
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned
MyAccøuntHasBeenCłoned

If you really want to “think”, please research more than one perspective on this topic (or any topic for that matter). John didn’t do that, he didn’t look at this objectively and just ran what was essentially an infomercial for CRT. John mentioned Christopher Rufo but didn’t have him on to debate; this would have been far more productive if he did. Since he already mentioned him, why not start with him and see what he says about CRT and compare that with what John said.

Vor 2 Monate
Sandra Stephenson
Sandra Stephenson

This is brilliant, genius, and so deeply relevant. I only wish any of the people who follow Ruffo et al would ever HEAR it and understand.

Vor 8 Monate
Slevin Channel
Slevin Channel

CRT is surrounded by Myths and made out to be a Boogeyman, so you may wanna double- and triple-check what you know/believe about it. BUT WHATEVER. Honestly, more on my mind: Have you seen 'The Past, Present, And Future Of Work - SOME MORE NEWS'? I was surpirsed just how much 'for the average Person' and how 'universal' this video is. Legit: who cares what political Orientation this guy has? His videos about Work and Unions and also Inflation are Universal.

Vor 8 Monate
Merissa J
Merissa J

Not an actual text book but a supplement sold at bookstores in Canadawas published where it said the Europeans asked the First Nations to move to reserves...rather than brutally and forcibly rounded them up in a horrific manner. There was some pretty harsh backlash from people to that publisher.

Vor 7 Monate
Handsome Harold
Handsome Harold

"this country cant be racist, we elected obama for two terms" oh really? Did you?

Vor Monat
Corso117
Corso117

I am in the middle of reading "Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community" by MLK and I cannot recommend it enough. It really shows what we lost when Dr. King was assassinated. He was a true radical in the greatest sense of the word and incredibly eloquent. He absolutely had his finger on the pulse when it comes to America. Every high schooler in America should read this book. Too much of it unfortunately remains relevant today and the only way a multiracial America achieves its lofty goals of equality is by addressing its uncomfortable past and painful realities of today.

Vor 11 Monate
Weston Meyer
Weston Meyer

@Viper Records It is kind of a fact. Just before he was killed he was very unpopular with white people(the same white people who voted for Kennedy and unanimously supported LBJ)and increasingly viewed as an Uncle Tom by black people. If he wasn’t killed he would just be another celebrity who died in the early 2000s or so that nobody cares about anymore.

Vor 10 Monate
Corso117
Corso117

@Weston Meyer Takes one to know one. Only difference is you're wasting the air MLK should be breathing. What an insane take. Go get help.

Vor 10 Monate
Weston Meyer
Weston Meyer

He was a lunatic who would be a nobody today if he wasn’t assassinated.

Vor 10 Monate
Ancar Willis
Ancar Willis

@MaxEverything is multicultural. All empires inevitably fall. The hard truth is that even if there were no Black people in the country people like that will just make up other reasons to hate each other. If it’s not Blacks it’s Latinos, if it’s not Latinos it’s Jews, if it’s not Jews it’s Asians, and if it’s not Asians it’s the Commies. Hate is all they know.

Vor 11 Monate
Fafnd
Fafnd

@Viper Records your 100% wrong. Neolibs call anyone to the left of them as far left, radical left, or communists. The neoliberal elite consider themselves as being "centrists".

Vor 11 Monate
Kerry Guerin
Kerry Guerin

In the 1970's in Alberta we were taught in schools about a plan to use the American education system to indoctrinate every American and make them pliable and cooperative with govt/corporate interests, and particularly to indoctrinate them to revile anything remotely socialist. (y'know like in Finland, the happiest country on earth.) We have been watching that plan succeed in spades ever since. It's terrifying,

Vor 7 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

@Dedfrudyify It also doesn’t help that people don’t really know what Socialism is or they just lazily use it as a catch all umbrella term. An example of this is Bernie Sanders saying “They have Socialism in Denmark”, because this is factually incorrect. Denmark’s Prime Minister even went on record declaring “We are a Market Economy”. Meaning, using Bernie’s definition, yes Denmark is “Socialist”, but using Denmark’s definition, it’s obviously Capitalist. Academically, Bernie Sanders is simply wrong, but politicians probably didn’t learn Economics terms 60 years ago when they were in college. That’s also why the US is in denial of its current Recession. Also of academic interest is that people in favor of “socialism” (whatever their inconsistent definition may be) is that none of them ever are in favor of Fascism, despite it being a form of Socialism. It’s as if they outright forget Fascist Spain existed and are unable to separate “Nazism” from an entirely unrelated economic system.

Vor 5 Monate
Dedfrudyify
Dedfrudyify

I am Finnish and we're not really socialist :D Social democratic is not socialist and even this is too hard for some Americans to understand XD

Vor 6 Monate
David Medlin
David Medlin

We have truth in advertising laws I don't understand why we don't have truth in politics or news laws

Vor 2 Monate
Le Bonk
Le Bonk

probably something about not trusting the government to decide what counts as "truth" I do think we ought to just ban paid political advertising as a whole though

Vor 8 Tage
Bob02
Bob02

when a student makes more sense than all the politicians that are task with leading the world, you know we are lost. Won't get better. Hell we will probably burn before we fix any social issue

Vor 6 Monate
Linda Rosa
Linda Rosa

The problem with Critical Theories are their embrace of Postmodern thought. Alas, it is not longer confined to academia. I recommend Alan Sokal's book Fashionable Nonsense: Postmodern Intellectuals' Abuse of Science." Both Right and Left are wrong about CRT.

Vor 9 Monate
Aaron Landry
Aaron Landry

It also incorrectly labels “Latinos” as a separate race when they are racially white. If you correct this error, there is no evidence for CRT, especially when Asians are the richest race of people in the US

Vor 4 Monate
Avery the Cuban-American
Avery the Cuban-American

Put it this way, would you rather RUN from the past...or LEARN from it? No one alive today is responsible for slavery for example, but we ARE responsible for writing the chapters of history and whether or not to acknowledge the facts. We decide what happens next. Teaching students a biased fake side of history, is what North Korea is doing. It's also what the Philippines is doing with the martial law era. The fact I can even find similarities between the US and North Korea is scary. When I was in high school I participated in Model UN, and I'm glad the club was an option there. Because there I got to debate and research about important issues head on. Not just current issues but historical topics (like the Cuban Missile Crisis) as well. It made me more open-minded, the individual didn't cause the issues others have done, but we can learn how to approach and solve it.

Vor 8 Monate
Liberals Are gross
Liberals Are gross

@Ari Bantala I don't want to learn any of your woke garbage

Vor 4 Monate
Morsmordre2.0
Morsmordre2.0

@Peter Parker That doesn't sound smart Peter.

Vor 7 Monate
Ari Bantala
Ari Bantala

@Peter Parker You don't want to learn from your past mistakes? How would you progress as a person if you don't want to learn from your mistakes and try to not let it happen again?

Vor 8 Monate
Christopher Chamberlain
Christopher Chamberlain

There are people alive "TODAY" and in power "TODAY" that see the name Jamal, or Shaquana and turn them down for jobs, loans, housing and many other necessities, without even seeing their face. That is institutional racism and it's alive and well in the USA. Slavery has nothing to do with this episode of LWT. It's about how racist America is now. It's about how an overwhelming amount of white people do not want the truth being exposed.

Vor 8 Monate
Peter Parker
Peter Parker

You dont have to do either

Vor 8 Monate
Ruth Eggerman
Ruth Eggerman

What if students realize the censorship the teachers are subject to. (sorry I can’t answer that question due to school rules.) Would teacher be in trouble for that? It would “disrupt” the family, as students generally want to know the truth to their questions. Just some thoughts.

Vor 5 Monate

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