Cessna Centurion crashes on approach to Lubbock, TX | Icing Conditions

  • Am Vor 6 Monate

    VASAviation -VASAviation -

    Dauer: 08:10

    Cessna Centurion performing flight inbound Lubbock was on a second attempt for the RNAV approach to runway 35L when the aircraft descended rapidly and impacted the ground.
    The sole pilot onboard received fatal injuries.
    Audio source: www.liveatc.net

VASAviation -
VASAviation -

Always beware icing conditions. Rest in Peace. Leave your condolences here.

Vor 6 Monate
SaltySquid007
SaltySquid007

He will be missed by many may he rest in peace may everyone who sees this and doesn't see this have a good day. 🕊️

Vor 2 Monate
Logan Donnelly
Logan Donnelly

Blue skies and tailwinds.

Vor 5 Monate
Lloyd van den Bor
Lloyd van den Bor

Very sad, my condolences to the family.

Vor 5 Monate
Mark Loper
Mark Loper

Rest in peace my friend.

Vor 2 Monate
SaltySquid007
SaltySquid007

There wasn't much he could do freezing rain is very scary to see as a pilot on a small plain I hope this man will rest in peace

Vor 2 Monate
joynthis
joynthis

Yeah, except there's no "terrain" in Lubbock.

Vor 3 Monate
WhisperJet America
WhisperJet America

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Vor 3 Monate
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Vor 4 Monate
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Frieda Juliet

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Vor 4 Monate
Big Dog
Big Dog

man that sucks, you could tell he was uneasy during the approach

Vor 4 Monate
Andy Collins
Andy Collins

Hard to listen to. It sounded like all the pilots were getting behind the aircraft to some degree (missed or incorrect readbacks mostly). Conditions must have been terrible

Vor 4 Monate
SGTSnakeUSMC
SGTSnakeUSMC

Down to 50kts on approach and they gave him a turn? He was already in trouble with the ice, deadly turn.

Vor 5 Monate
SGTSnakeUSMC
SGTSnakeUSMC

@Cogito Ergo Agreed and condolences to the family.

Vor 4 Monate
Cogito Ergo
Cogito Ergo

My thought exactly. The decaying airspeed ... extended time spent at that level ... all were strong clues and cause for alarm. I get the need to break off an unstablized approach, but in cases like this one (small plane with extended time in icy level) turning the plane outbound and keeping it in ice should not have been the go to. I’m not blaming the controller here... hindsight’s always 20/20. Condolences to the family.

Vor 4 Monate
user2kffs
user2kffs

Think he would have made it if they had landed on the first attempt and not gone around

Vor 5 Monate
Chase Davidson
Chase Davidson

No idea tgis happened and I was here in Lubbock at the time

Vor 5 Monate
CaffeineGeek
CaffeineGeek

A sobering end. When I was a low time pilot, I rented a plane for a couple of days to get in some cross country flying. On the way back, my home airport was socked in with low ceilings, gusty winds, and reports of icing. An appropriate diversion would put me a long away from home. The immediate thought was paying the late fee for the rental plane, cost of the hotel, transportation, etc. Then the advice my CFI gave me popped into my head. No flight is worth your life. Flying can be a pricey hobby so be ready to shell out a few extra dollars if the unexpected arises. Everything turned out fine. The FBO at the diversion airport let me take the crew car overnight and even found me a nice place to stay at a bargain rate. Found a great lounge with a live band for a nice dinner. When I got back, the fee for returning the plane late was waived. No one was renting after me plus they appreciated the choice to not contract a case of "get-there-itis." I'll never know the result of what would have happened had I pressed on but I'll never regret my decision not to.

Vor 5 Monate
Marlin Weekley
Marlin Weekley

Keep the speed up, keep the flaps up and keep the gear up until very short final of caught in unexpected low ice approach. Of course if warmer up climb if you can, if metars / pireps bad divert if better elsewhere. I am so sorry for this pilot - ive been in similiar situation before.

Vor 5 Monate
THX 1138
THX 1138

This is painful.

Vor 5 Monate
Gabriel valles
Gabriel valles

the first time something happens at this airport worth media

Vor 6 Monate
Joel T
Joel T

what kind of moron goes out flying in that kind of plane with that weather!!

Vor 6 Monate
Eric Rodriguez
Eric Rodriguez

Hopefully he was a biden supporter

Vor 6 Monate
Eray Yilmaz
Eray Yilmaz

It is truly sad to see these types of accidents over and over again. Unfortunately the theme is always same. A pilot, regardless of experience, making bad decisions one after another and putting himself into a spot that he can barely coop with the situation that his decisions led to. The fact that this can be easily avoidable makes this accident even worse.

Vor 6 Monate
Nova Lightress18
Nova Lightress18

My dad was at the airport that day!! 😳

Vor 6 Monate
Omhra
Omhra

METAR and circling him like a damn freesbee,,.. not good.

Vor 6 Monate
Melita Colombi
Melita Colombi

This is hard to listen to/ he was so distressed and needed any assistance available. The more time in air, the worse the icing.

Vor 6 Monate
eagle49624
eagle49624

That last instruction from the controller to break off the approach was given when he was doing 50 knots, loaded with ice. If he didn't apply max power and bring the speed up first while iced up, he couldn't possibly make the turn without stalling. Stall speed increases with icing. The controller, knowing of the icing conditions could have declared missed approach and had him climb straight ahead first to allow him to increase altitude and then vector him out of the area to the holding point. Icing was reported to be up to 2,000 feet AGL. Runway elevation was 3,243 feet MSL. He'd be out of icing above 5,250 feet. If he was almost on empty, he should have declared an emergency. The controller was pressured by the commercial jet traffic behind him, but handled that pretty well, up until asking him to make a right turn from 350 to 270 to leave the approach. The approach plate has "Missed Approach: Climb to 5400 direct TUDPY and hold." Maintaining heading and flying straight ahead while climbing would have been safer because it doesn't involve a dangerous turn in icing conditions at low approach speeds. IMHO, the controllers directive to have him make that 280 degree turn instead of having him follow the missed approach procedure contributed to the accident. Very, very sad. RIP.

Vor 6 Monate
Andres Ramos
Andres Ramos

Why the controller wanted to break him off the approach? Let the airliners go around and bring the less capable aircraft in.

Vor 6 Monate
Arcadia
Arcadia

Pilot seemed odd

Vor 6 Monate
West Texas Prepper
West Texas Prepper

My home town

Vor 6 Monate
Bull Durham
Bull Durham

Did not the Do-Do in the Cirrus SR22 (N8402Q) @ 06:30 hear that the C210 was in trouble in Icing conditions...guess not; because he flew onto Austin...!?

Vor 6 Monate
Joshua Cleveland
Joshua Cleveland

This is my airport...not a good day. RIP

Vor 6 Monate
anthony zarinnia
anthony zarinnia

6 killers in weather await they who ply a stormy sky....get to know em. In the voice of the Centurion Pilot was the change in tone of a flyer seeing his world in a new light. Ice and a request for vectors and a misread of a OAT gauge hallmark of a singlepilot nightmare in progress. In that moment the briefing and all the best laid plans are no sanctuary. Survival is measured in moments and he had it down....until the go around call came......... ...to the uninitiated who have yet the pleasure of an ILS at full throttle with turbos boosted to the redlines to avoid flight below minimum ice speed....speak softly of the dead..... The Old pre war WIRE CHECK and all of the best planes and disciplined airmen can lured by the siren of ATIS and ambition to ride into this nightmare. Godspeed to the pilot gone West and his family and friends.

Vor 6 Monate
JIMJAMSC
JIMJAMSC

A 210 was my first complex retract and flying mainly solo at night in IFR was a handful. Usually carried 1 spotter and 1 in the back all with nvg. I recall really being told to grease it on and that the gear was fragile. This guy really sounds stressed out and unprepared for the conditions he was in.

Vor 6 Monate
Honey boo boo
Honey boo boo

icing & freezing rain is never worth it man...get in direct, or get out of those conditions... they reported the cessna grounspeed first at 70 knots as barely a crawl, way way too early on the approach right???? i think he had a headwind... but even adding 15 or 20 knots to that groundspeed, that would mean the first reported 85 ish knots IAS - then that last one before they broke off southwest plane, was down to around 60 knots IAS (40 knots groundspeed), if im doing my quick mental math correctly 😳 always think of the loved ones & family members 😢😢💔

Vor 6 Monate
Sam Stewardson
Sam Stewardson

https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/lfr-releases-name-of-pilot-who-died-in-monday-plane-crash-in-residential-area-lubbock/

Vor 6 Monate
c rhynehardt
c rhynehardt

Prayers up for the family, friends, and other loved ones.

Vor 6 Monate
Bernard Anderson
Bernard Anderson

My condolences

Vor 6 Monate
Cash Dollar
Cash Dollar

Another doctor....gone. How many of our GA crashes have docs at the controls?

Vor 6 Monate
Kim Chi
Kim Chi

This pilot seemed lost with his IFR approach.

Vor 6 Monate
william salvaggio
william salvaggio

😢😢😢🙏🙏🙏

Vor 6 Monate
Kiss Of Fire
Kiss Of Fire

I was alarmed when I first heard the pilot speaking - to me it seemed like someone who had a stroke! His speech sounded slurred and confused. Perhaps sheer fear caused it?

Vor 6 Monate
Larry Smith
Larry Smith

I worked as a supervisor at LBB for over 3 yrs. It can get very hot and very cold. It snowed every winter I was there. Great place to work, great people. Pilot of centurian sounds stressed. 50Kts on final is very slow. Losing an aircraft you are working is heartbreaking. You never get over it. RIP to pilot.

Vor 6 Monate
FlightX101
FlightX101

*Looks at Metar for 0.5 seconds* WHY!?!?!....Its not worth it :( RIP to the Pilot

Vor 6 Monate
shreddder999
shreddder999

Okay, he had no business being in the air IFR. What are all of the unrelated communications in the background of every transmission?

Vor 6 Monate
Jeep DIY Help
Jeep DIY Help

He was a good man, and doctor as well as a good friend he will be missed

Vor 6 Monate
MediaHypeTrain
MediaHypeTrain

Very sorry for your loss :(

Vor 3 Monate
Nabil Yazdani
Nabil Yazdani

@VALARIE HUNT Thank you for sharing more about Dr. Eakin's life. Now, it is his soul winging its flight to be near its Lord. May you, his other coworkers, friends and family find comfort as you process this terrible loss.

Vor 4 Monate
VALARIE HUNT
VALARIE HUNT

@Cessna Pilot972 I worked with him in our ER in east Texas and we are devastated by his death. He leaves a big hole in our organization. I saw him criticized for not making or calling an emergency but I don’t know anything about aviation emergencies, I’m strictly an ER nurse. I DO know that he was trying to get home to work his next shift and as broken hearted as I am I’m grateful that no one else was hurt-whether by his conscience control or luck. And you’re right, he was a very good man. I’ve known him for almost 20 years. He’s well read, Mensa, multi religious(if that’s such a thing), kind hearted, generous to those truly in need, funny, sarcastic, but we all need comedy and kindness in ER. Dr Eakin was one of a kind. Fly high, sir 💔

Vor 6 Monate
Cessna Pilot972
Cessna Pilot972

Just watched the video and recognized his voice. He was a good man. I had the opportunity to take him up in my centurion back in September. He was looking at purchasing mine from me but wanted to look at the older one out west first. After our test flight we sat and talked about everything under the sun. This news is very saddening. Rest In Peace Doc!

Vor 6 Monate
Scooter O
Scooter O

Sorry for your loss

Vor 6 Monate
Tom Jones
Tom Jones

Did this pilot have no alternatives that were icing free? One attempt with go around should have given him plenty of warning about ice.

Vor 6 Monate
MeowMix^7
MeowMix^7

I had difficulty keeping my windshield clear running max defrost that morning. I was driving very slowly and wouldn't have dreamed of flying. The weather was horrible and we had a lot of wrecks all through the day. If I didn't have to be on the road to check on animals, I wouldn't have even been out driving, much less flying. The impact site wasn't too far away from the last fatal single engine accident in Lubbock too.

Vor 6 Monate
Fixed pitch Aviation
Fixed pitch Aviation

Aviation lives matter. Rest In Peace N9622T

Vor 6 Monate
Craig Wall
Craig Wall

To hell with THIS guy- I feel bad for the _autopilot_ he thought would cover up his incompetence!

Vor 6 Monate
Craig Wall
Craig Wall

Did I get that right?? Was this guy flying the autopilot the whole time until it let go? There's no other reason he'd let that airplane slow down to 50 kts from 70 kts in less than a minute (even if those are radar tracking speeds) unless he had commanded an altitude that the autopilot was trying to comply with- this was pure wishful thinking on this idiots part!

Vor 6 Monate
CapStar362
CapStar362

hey VAS, there was another recent crash in Ocala Florida of a private plane, that involved the PIC being a local Police Chief, do you or Blanco have any info on this? https://www.facebook.com/OcalaPoliceDepartment/photos/a.769621979716142/3939395356072106/ https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2711743952400184

Vor 6 Monate
msnpassjan2004
msnpassjan2004

Controllers were excellent. I like how at 2:38 the controller noticed the pilot was falling behind his aircraft, intuitively asked if icing was a problem and proceeded to offer great support with routing. Could not ask for anything more.

Vor 6 Monate
Cesare Guariniello
Cesare Guariniello

Like somebody already noted, I wonder if his first "I am getting...." was an indication that he was already experiencing icing. That would have been the perfect moment to declare an emergency. He asked for vectors and obviously ATC followed the rules and sent him out for another approach (even accepting his request for EMUMY instead than opposite approach on 17R). Had he declared emergency, probably ATC would have vectored him in immediately or found a way to keep him on the approach he was already on. It is also impressive that it was ATC to ask if he was experiencing icing. I wonder if they just asked because of the conditions (as in like, they were asking everybody. We have an ATC at KLAF who is amazing when bad weather comes in. He pulled all VFR aircraft in safely, constantly asking for and giving quick updates, and let us keep flying because I am IFR and opened a flight plan in the air), or if they noticed the stress in the readbacks. Very easy to comment afterwards, but this was already a situation that required declaring an emergency. When it is actually ATC asking about dangerous condition, I would see that as a great opening to overcome any worry and declare emergency. Other things that somebody highlighted, bad readbacks and phraseology "22T with you".. Only Flight Simulator uses that, it is not standard. "5.2" should be "5 thousand 2 hundred". "Cleared to land" requires to repeat the RW number.. I really think that as aviation community we need to do more. Educate much more about emergency situations (AOPA videos are useful, VASAviation videos are useful, and there is much more), and being a little more demanding on pilots' proficiency. Sad :(

Vor 6 Monate
Jimmy Mac
Jimmy Mac

RIP

Vor 6 Monate
Flyby Airplane
Flyby Airplane

RIP, THE ONLY ICING EVENT was way back, with my instructor in a C150, getting back to NJ, from lower NY, ,,,,,,,NOTHING REPORTED but I realised we had a problem, then added power, that’s when my instructor heard the difference, ..... he had been reading , said what’s going on? Told him, then MY AIRPLANE , we got back to CDW, everybody was looking at the ice melt, ,, was NOT REPORTED IN WEATHER , so he called someone to report it . Have you ANY IDEA, IN A C150 ? Cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Vor 6 Monate
Matthew Hall
Matthew Hall

Yikes you almost got stuck hoping for the Miracle on Newark Bay.

Vor 6 Monate
B
B

A man’s got to know his limitations...........

Vor 6 Monate
Doug
Doug

I live in Lubbock & I didn't know about this. We did have rain, sleet & snow in the past few days. I thought I'd check this out.

Vor 6 Monate
John Davis
John Davis

Just FYI this airplane crashed in a neighborhood, it struck an unoccupied house. And due to Idiots on the ground rubbernecking on the ground emergency services had a difficult time reaching the crash site. I was about a mile out from the accident when it occurred the ground conditions were fine, so the delay emergency services dealt with were human-made.

Vor 6 Monate
Rob P
Rob P

Being prepared for the 1st approach would have saved his life. You can hear he was struggling to control his fear. Such a bummer. RIP dude...

Vor 6 Monate
Nim Sandhu
Nim Sandhu

It really doesn't matter now this poor guy has lost his life, I just noticed at first there might have been some word slurring and some confusion? Might be over reading his responses. Although seems to be an icing issue has anyone perhaps considered CO poisoning? RIP man, condolences to your family.

Vor 6 Monate
VASAviation -
VASAviation -

Flying in clouds is stressful and tiring

Vor 6 Monate
Thomas Fuller
Thomas Fuller

He disappears at 5:34. So tragic. He was apparently a physician from Hallsville, Texas. Crashed here in Lubbock, in an ice storm.

Vor 6 Monate
Bill Fly2
Bill Fly2

I got the feeling the airline pilot who offered the icing info was trying to help the pilot and controller. Indirectly suggesting for the 210 to fly above 5200' (2000 agl) where his icing ended.

Vor 6 Monate
Dominick Puente
Dominick Puente

I work at the private airport right next to the main terminal and I was working the shift when this happened. Us line guys were monitoring the planes coming in and wondered why such a tiny plane was willing to come in during these conditions. We didn't think much of it not coming in because we had to handle the Citation and king air. We didn't realize the plane did not make it until the news stories started popping up

Vor 6 Monate
Sebastopolmark
Sebastopolmark

That pilot did not sound the most confident in the cockpit. Sounded more like the plane was flying him.

Vor 6 Monate
Chris Brown
Chris Brown

I live in Lubbock and when I heard on the news a plane crashed in the city I was a bit surprised.

Vor 6 Monate
Paul Martin
Paul Martin

Right from the start it sounded like this pilot was task-saturated. I'm surprised that ATC just stated that he's doing '50 knots' without reaching out to the guy to warn him. I wouldn't do a 50 knot approach in a C150!

Vor 6 Monate
worldtraveler
worldtraveler

@Dustin Conner Very true Dustin, lbb can be a pain in the ass that's for sure. At least you can usually find a runway lined up with the winds.

Vor 6 Monate
Dustin Conner
Dustin Conner

Just flying into Lubbock is an adventure with the winds. Wind speeds can be 15kt at the airport and 75kt+ 2000’ AGL. It’s not uncommon to see small A/C ground speed be around 50kt.

Vor 6 Monate
worldtraveler
worldtraveler

ATC only sees your ground speed. Dont forget while he was doing 70kts across the ground, he was probably indicating 100 or 110. Headwinds...😉 When ATC tells you to maintain a speed, they mean indicated.👍 Fly that and they will adjust accordingly.

Vor 6 Monate
dzurisintube
dzurisintube

Looks like this aircraft was just very recently sold to the new owner after repairs from a Feb 2020 incident where it landed with the nose gear up. Sad for everyone involved. http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2020/02/cessna-210-centurion-n9622t-incident.html

Vor 6 Monate
Patrick Fox
Patrick Fox

This happens fairly close to me I live up near AMA

Vor 6 Monate
Anthony Cooke
Anthony Cooke

Terribly sad. You could hear in the pilots voice that he knew he was in a really dangerous situation. RIP.

Vor 6 Monate
colesrk
colesrk

Do you guys have anything on the GA crash in Florida on Oct 25th that killed that sheriff?

Vor 6 Monate
davidpfol
davidpfol

why not divert to another airport??. Seriously, look at that metar, not just the freezing rain, add an overcast sky and mist to that and the presence of wind(in a small airplane, which the cessna centurion is). Chances of landing in one piece were zero

Vor 6 Monate
G S
G S

The WX conditions were very poor. Winds 15 w/gusts 21kts, 4SM viz, Freezing drizzle and mist reported, Overcast 700' Wow. Did he have any options to divert???

Vor 6 Monate
Mathieu Clement
Mathieu Clement

What should have been done here, supposing this pilot did not fly into these conditions on purpose, get away from the freezing rain and divert? Declare an emergency and ASAP?

Vor 6 Monate
MrYungilike
MrYungilike

mist, 700ft over cloud, freezing drizzle, wind 15 gust 21, can't imagine what kind of situation that pilot went through… may the peace with him now.

Vor 6 Monate
Forecast Lab
Forecast Lab

I'm a former military aviation meteorologist and I write the meteorology column for IFR Magazine. This was definitely a classic warm advection freezing precipitation event that was anticipated well in advance. The conditions had been advertised in the TAF for many hours. The cold 23F temperatures gives some indication of the sheer depth of the surface-based cold layer, in this case topping out at about 8000 ft MSL. It should also be considered that any kind of unexpected holding time in these layers (runway changes, ground emergency, etc) or an unexpected increase in SLD growth not forecast by the models can get you into trouble real quick.

Vor 6 Monate
Hitting. Numb
Hitting. Numb

Another family lost a loved one here in Lubbock. It is obvious that the weather forecast was either ignored or not even looked at in planning this flight. Was very heavily forecasted starting two days before this. It was more than just freezing drizzle. All over the South Plains and certainly including Lubbock the freezing rain (sleet) was very heavy starting the night before. He barely and by just a few feet missed coming straight into houses. Many prayers going out to the family and friends. 🙏

Vor 6 Monate
BILLY THE KID
BILLY THE KID

Young msn, msy you rest in peace with the angels, you will always be loved and missed!

Vor 6 Monate
rvnmedic1968
rvnmedic1968

RIP pilot and sympathy for the controller who was in contact with him. Gotta be hard to take...

Vor 6 Monate
margaret simons
margaret simons

Very sad. Pilots of small planes please be very careful of bad weather and icing conditions. Lost a friend that way. Small plane and pilot hired to fly three Indian Health Service doctors between Native American communities in North Dakota. All aboard were killed. NTSB ruled it failure to maintain altitude & bad weather. But I believe the real mistake was taking off with a blizzard approaching. Missed approaches due to blizzard conditions at two airports before crashing.

Vor 6 Monate
K. PacificNW
K. PacificNW

Why can't a small plane fly when it gets coated with ice?

Vor 6 Monate
James Taylor
James Taylor

Ice builds up on the surfaces that provide lift and control, reducing the ability of the aircraft to fly. Check the links at the bottom of this page for some good explanations: https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/active-pilots/safety-and-technique/weather/cold-weather-operations

Vor 6 Monate
GeneralN0va
GeneralN0va

I live in lubbock and 5 miles south is right on top of a highway or even right over the interstate. Weather has not been easy for the past two days.

Vor 6 Monate
Neilbert G
Neilbert G

RCAM - Runway Condition Assessment Matrix. basically the criteria for Braking Action Codes.. Also the slash is one for each third of the landing surface

Vor 6 Monate
Alejandro Godoy
Alejandro Godoy

THANK U ALL for posting! We Must learn! Vasa Thank U!

Vor 6 Monate
roflchopter11
roflchopter11

5:10 why the right 270 and then the "vector" eastbound?

Vor 6 Monate
roflchopter11
roflchopter11

@VASAviation - just watched the second video, I didn't see he was southbound before the right 270 was given.

Vor 6 Monate
James Harris
James Harris

Those extra minutes in FZDZ conditions cost him imo.

Vor 6 Monate
VASAviation -
VASAviation -

Vectors out of the approach

Vor 6 Monate
AMStationEngineer
AMStationEngineer

Rest well, our fellow aviator, and most sincere condolences to those involved and affected. To say he lived his last moments in hell is a complete understatement. Thanks, Victor, for always being on top of 'all things aviation'.

Vor 6 Monate
L Martinez
L Martinez

RIP

Vor 6 Monate
Matthew Kane
Matthew Kane

This was a tough one to watch. He knew he was in trouble you could hear it in his voice. He spent too much time at 5200’ making it worse for him

Vor 6 Monate
Raven Openheart
Raven Openheart

I could hear this pilot was not skilled enough for the situations he found himself in. But I started to worry more for the aircraft who had to remain flying...his missed approach and confusion put other aircraft in danger of crashing as well. People listening to this should appreciate the skill of the pilots who safely landed in those conditions....and appreciate the controllers who tried to keep everyone out of trouble. As a pilot, and a cave diver, I understand high risk living. Some mistakes, are last mistakes. My heart goes out to all who suffered from this crash. Raven

Vor 6 Monate
Cherokee Flyer
Cherokee Flyer

I wonder if the Cirrus holding for takeoff changed his mind.

Vor 6 Monate
VASAviation -
VASAviation -

Took off minutes later

Vor 6 Monate
BLACKMONGOOSE13
BLACKMONGOOSE13

It was 30 degrees with freezing rain. This time of year it's normally 75 degrees here but looking at the weather reports showed a very large and unusually cold front with rain, followed by freezing rain, and then snow was inbound and was to stick around for 24 hours. Not a normal thing for these parts.

Vor 6 Monate
Navy_flyer
Navy_flyer

I feel like somehow seeing a METAR/TAF written out in teletype abbreviation somehow buffers pilots from the realities of the seriousness of the weather. FREEZING DRIZZLE? In a light piston single? Are you kidding me? If you fly in that kind of weather in a piston single, you are going to die eventually. Either this pilot was already in some SERIOUS shit, or he was so incompetent he shouldn't have been flying IFR to begin with. He literally can't read back a heading or approach clearance, and doesn't even know what runway he's going to... so sad that such sub-par pilots find themselves in conditions that even the best pilots would never put themselves in...

Vor 6 Monate
Mark Rose
Mark Rose

He diverted half way through his filed flight to this airport for some reason.

Vor 6 Monate
fiyahdave
fiyahdave

This is unbelievable. Incredible. No business being in the air.

Vor 6 Monate
soccerguy2433
soccerguy2433

The airforce equates freezing drizzle as moderate icing

Vor 6 Monate
Margaret Mathis
Margaret Mathis

Please explain the runway condition of 6/6/5.

Vor 6 Monate
Margaret Mathis
Margaret Mathis

@Mark Rose THANK YOU!

Vor 6 Monate
Mark Rose
Mark Rose

Dry/Dry/Wet for the 1st/2nd/3rd third of the runway (dry doesn't mean bone dry)

Vor 6 Monate
3DOTNEWS
3DOTNEWS

Condolences to his family and friends.

Vor 6 Monate
blancolirio
blancolirio

Wow! That METAR was a death sentence.... I don’t know why we make these same mistakes over and over each year. Stby for an update. Thanks for posting Victor.

Vor 6 Monate
C.M.L.
C.M.L.

Fatal loss

Vor 5 Monate
Kenneth Strickland
Kenneth Strickland

Looks like the SR22 waiting to go (N8402Q) had FIKI capability, but I wonder how effective it is in freezing rain. Maybe someone else who knows can chime in.

Vor 6 Monate
Kenneth Strickland
Kenneth Strickland

There was a Cirrus waiting to depart as well - maybe

Vor 6 Monate
H B
H B

@Gibran Bedra What percentage of pilots ever crash ? I don't have numbers to hand, but I would wager that the percentage is extremely low. Is it reasonable to expect absolutely every pilot who qualifies to operate at all times in a careful and diligent manner ? Unless you want to make the qualification criteria much stricter, then the painful reality is that there will always be a small number of pilots who are capable of flying in some but not all circumstances. When I qualified (full CPL) more than twenty years ago, I felt that nowhere near enough attention was given to formalising, understanding and testing the decision making process. I don't know if things have changed since then.

Vor 6 Monate
H B
H B

@Ori 0 There are thousands of pilots who fly safely and sensibly without needing or wanting an instrument rating. Why do you wish to inconvenience them ? The most important consideration in this case is not whether the pilot was instrument rated, but whether his decisions about whether to fly and where and when to fly were a) sound with an unfortunate outcome or b) put him at unnecessary risk.

Vor 6 Monate
Jackson Cude
Jackson Cude

so sad to here about an incident where i live. for west texas weather, this has been nothing that we’ve ever seen before.

Vor 6 Monate
little bit lost
little bit lost

Just north of you across the border. It's been really bad. History making ice storm, they're calling it.

Vor 6 Monate
T Bolt
T Bolt

He has slipped the surly bonds of Earth. Rest in peace, my condolences to his family and friends.

Vor 6 Monate
5Andysalive
5Andysalive

Freezing rain is already bad enough in a car.

Vor 6 Monate
michael king
michael king

i thought the ELT was activated automatically in a crash.

Vor 6 Monate
michael king
michael king

@Douglas B ATC: pilot, do you know your ELT is transmitting? PILOT: really? that landing was so soft i could have given a pillow a run for it's money! lol! thanks Mr Boyd

Vor 6 Monate
Douglas B
Douglas B

The older 121.5 ELTs are notorious for NOT going off in crashes BUT going off in hard landings

Vor 6 Monate
John Duthie
John Duthie

Poor guy was sooooo far behind he plane. A lesson to us all have an alternate and be ready to get out of there

Vor 6 Monate
Bill Fly2
Bill Fly2

This guy owned the plane for only two months. The last 30 minutes of this flight he was flying below 70 knots, sometimes as low as 50. The 210 was an ice cube. Sad. Learn from this.

Vor 6 Monate
Douglas B
Douglas B

Well that’s ground speed you’re citing NOT true airspeed

Vor 6 Monate
tiverton
tiverton

This accident started way before the aircraft left the ground. Remember: there's no such thing as emergency take-off.

Vor 6 Monate
VALARIE HUNT
VALARIE HUNT

@H B He did know that he needed to report for a shift in the ER and he never missed his work. He was an ER Dr.

Vor 6 Monate
Mr ekg98
Mr ekg98

@H B i agree. Thats kinda like what i was saying. There is no certainty in anything man does.

Vor 6 Monate
H B
H B

@Mr ekg98 Weather conditions can change rapidly and unexpectedly. Predictions of future conditions are fallible. En-route delays can occur. Only with hindsight can we say whether or not the decision to depart was sound.

Vor 6 Monate
H B
H B

@tiverton Also, the assessment company is insured to make those decisions. Premiums are inversely proportional to the quality of the company.

Vor 6 Monate
William Bryan
William Bryan

You’ve definitely never had your wife mad at you and you need to get out of the house! 😉

Vor 6 Monate

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