Bohemian Rhapsody's Terrible Editing - A Breakdown

Thomas Flight
Thomas Flight

John Ottman Editor of Bohemian Rhapsody Responds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy35ZJcxIg8

Vor 25 Tage
Adam Baldwin
Adam Baldwin

@Powderwombat Frankly, I don't give a crap about awards because I've seen way too many bad movies receive them. As to why we're talking about this scene, well it's the subject of the video, that's why.

Vor 10 Tage
Powderwombat
Powderwombat

​@Adam Baldwin It's one scene out of an entire movie... why is everyone so obsessed with this scene? Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors.

Vor 10 Tage
Adam Baldwin
Adam Baldwin

While I do think Ottman was being genuine in his response and his account of how "the scene" came to be, watching this again just reinforces how bad the editing is, and while it does appear to be shot fairly poorly, you nicely demonstrated how the scene can be improved using the existing footage. Ironically, Ottman claims the need to cut it down as one of the reasons for the terrible editing, and yet in order to make the scene better, you cut it down even further. I'm going to chop this up to tunnel vision on his part, as he was probably staring at this footage for hundreds by the time he was done with this scene. The cinematography is quite bizarre and rather bad, though. The extremely wide shot thrown in the middle, why did they even film that? It's as if you're filming a several minute-long scene that either starts or ends with a wide shot, but the characters in the shot are all doing things mid-scene. I would love to give Ottman the benefit of the doubt, and I do give him credit for taking responsibility for his editing, but there's no way around it, this scene was a major blunder. And while circumstances and studio pressure no doubt made things difficult, isn't that why you get paid to do the job? I think other editors encounter similar situations all the time, and the truly great ones rise above those problems and get the job done. I really don't mean to be judging Ottman, but I think he could have and should have done a better job.

Vor 23 Tage
Andrewo Mennah ☣
Andrewo Mennah ☣

Probably it won best editing just for the Live Aid scene, but it was mostly because of Malek, he did a really good job.

Vor 2 Stunden
Jovis
Jovis

yeah I agree editing and transitioning between scenes is bad IMO

Vor 3 Stunden
Mostafa Ahmed
Mostafa Ahmed

The movie is gre at

Vor 3 Stunden
Rover Waters
Rover Waters

Bohemian Rhapsody guitar solo was written by Brian May

Vor 8 Stunden
Gamemaster 365 6
Gamemaster 365 6

I really don't see what the big deal is that was a good movie and the editing was the way it should be I believe you can't criticize something that you haven't even done yourself

Vor 13 Stunden
IndieVisualSophie
IndieVisualSophie

Someone told me that sound editing and film editing are similar. If you don’t notice it whilst watching the film, then it’s good.

Vor 3 Tage
Pranav Mistry
Pranav Mistry

There are no set rules for a good edit. Rules are a trap and it restricts you. The only thing that matters is sticking to the story and the characters in it. You cannot question an editors decision unless and until you were in that room.

Vor 4 Tage
Robert Bracey
Robert Bracey

A little knowledge can be dangerous. Your recut does not work very well at all because it fails to deliver what the original did - the original makes the audience increasingly uncomfortable, especially contrasted with the long tracking shot that opens the scene. An audience not familiar with editing will share the feeling of the band, feeling uncomfortable and off-balance, in fact you get this effect if you watch the scene without sound. Knowing something about editing causes you to think it is 'wrong' because it does not conform to basic guidelines. Whether it deserved an Oscar is hard to tell but there is a clear purpose to the editing of this scene.

Vor 4 Tage
Daniel Mims
Daniel Mims

I didn't like this movie at all. I wanting Sacha Baron Cohen and the more truthful movie he wanted to make . Cohen looks alot like Freddie and is British . Malek is really good and did good in the role but what could've been..

Vor 5 Tage
Aiden G
Aiden G

Might as well just put the camera on a stick and spin it.

Vor 5 Tage
rome8180
rome8180

Seems to me this scene suffers from a lot of problems. Uninteresting cinematography and uninspired screenplay are just as significant to me as the editing. And those three things are probably interconnected. If a scene doesn't have a clear sense of purpose and tone, I imagine it's hard to edit it.

Vor 5 Tage
TheaterPup
TheaterPup

Yes, it did win. Deal with it.

Vor 6 Tage
Donald James
Donald James

don’t have to specify on editing, the movie is entirely terrible

Vor 6 Tage
lil fuckin party city clearance section palette
lil fuckin party city clearance section palette

This is some Catwoman-level editing. And we all know how that one was received...

Vor 7 Tage
phaederkiel
phaederkiel

Sorry, but i have to disagree with your recut. I think the original is better. I have not seen the movie,all of what i have seen is what you show here. Yet I feel that the nervousness that shows through the second shot of Brian before the two other men are shown is very well expressed in the shot. Everybody needs to look their best, and he checks on them if they are looking good, which we see even before they are shown. I agree with most of the other things you say. The editing is surely flashy, possibly overly so. The shot of three members without Brian could be rooted in the story, though. On one hand, the scene seems to be filmed somewhat from his angle (commenting on mercurys choice of dress, looking if the other guys look good), on the other hand: I would, not knowing anything about the history of queen, surmise that this character gets thrown out of the band in the movie. These three guys are queen, the take seems to say.

Vor 8 Tage
Powderwombat
Powderwombat

You are talking about one 90 second scene out of an entire movie. Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene or the bathroom sink transition into tv van satellite. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about. You're bitching about a 90 second long scene in a movie that's over 2 hours long bro, and claiming "Bohemian Rhapsody has bad editing", meanwhile you describe good editing techniques over footage of Bohemian Rhapsody doing exactly those techniques. What the fuck are you talking about? See the problem isn't really in this analysis, but it's in the presentation such as your stupid video title which is misleading, and idiots who haven't seen the movie or are complete sheep will somehow translate this into thinking the entire movie is this poorly edited. It's not. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors who know more about film editing than you do. John Ottman is an oscar winning Hollywood editor and you're a fucking Youtuber.

Vor 10 Tage
FonchCakes
FonchCakes

This is so hard to watch lmao. I almost can't believe the movie actually looks this way.

Vor 11 Tage
DefinitelyNotaPervert
DefinitelyNotaPervert

I think another issue with the editing of this film is that with the amount of cuts they have, along with the said spatial continuity, it ends up overwhelming the viewers' eyes, and therefore, making them feel tired, dissoriented, and needlessly confused, due to the amount of unnecessary information that's being presented all at once.

Vor 12 Tage
Satan Lover13
Satan Lover13

7:22 Your cut is shit the other way is better

Vor 13 Tage
Enrique
Enrique

At the very least the grading is good

Vor 13 Tage
Jake Marko
Jake Marko

The Academy responds to lobbying and box office more than quality. Alot like Washington does with donors and special interest.

Vor 15 Tage
Elmo Jedburgh
Elmo Jedburgh

This Movie Is The Definition Of BULLSHIT

Vor 16 Tage
Mat Dub
Mat Dub

Freddy Mercury was pretty awesome so let's give the movie a lot of awards.

Vor 17 Tage
Caner Dalgıç
Caner Dalgıç

Bj

Vor 18 Tage
Gamefreak974
Gamefreak974

I think he did this smart. Kept interest. Honestly if this was shot normally it’d probably get boring and I’d get lost in the background.

Vor 18 Tage
anna feretzaki
anna feretzaki

Come on you didn't like it!!!! It was amazing

Vor 22 Tage
Theo
Theo

Dude such an awesome analysis

Vor 25 Tage
The Manhands
The Manhands

Now that I've seen the original along with John Ottman's response, I think it would be really easy for him to be more defensive. This is direct, candid criticism from a YOUTUBER (sarcasm) of a professional who is clearly accomplished. But that doesn't make you wrong. Your changes are an improvement, maybe even objectively. I wish he had acknowledged that. Also, his ad hominem about your voice and speaking style was definitely NOT professsional.

Vor 25 Tage
Meg ôwô
Meg ôwô

god the movie was so damn confusing and flip flopping all over the place, fuck it

Vor 26 Tage
bargh70
bargh70

I didn't know what I didn't like l about this movie but I had a feeling there was definitely something. Editing. Yep.

Vor 27 Tage
ledepi34
ledepi34

*People must realize this: Me, as example. I would not mind this movie winning the Oscar if it had only one bad edited scene. I would not mind if it had only two bad scenes either.*

Vor Monat
Rosen Bar
Rosen Bar

This is the most fascinating video I’ve seen in some time. Thank u 4 explaining to the public. (And I loved the movie!)

Vor Monat
badluckkennedy
badluckkennedy

it doesnt look like freddy mercury, it looks like raimi malek in a wig and false teeth, not to mention the movie was directed by a convicted pedophile

Vor Monat
murtadha96
murtadha96

Brilliant analysis

Vor Monat
kuntexterminator
kuntexterminator

I hated the parts where it just showed characters tilting their heads and staring blankly.

Vor Monat
Ben Sagal-Morris
Ben Sagal-Morris

Compare this movie’s editing to Goodfellas’ editing, and you’ll see why this editing sucks.

Vor Monat
John Bailey
John Bailey

Thanks brian singer

Vor Monat
Max Isola
Max Isola

I would say that Edgar Wright’s movies are the best examples of having editing that is noticeable, but still great.

Vor Monat
Mercuri Kid
Mercuri Kid

Okay I understand but this is the best movie to be made in my opinion.

Vor Monat
ItsBadgerr
ItsBadgerr

okay, the movie was supposed to be about an important man’s life time, he is a legend, and they have to get the movie in less than a couple hours. They are going to have to cut out a lot of things, they have to get the basics. You people can not be mad about everything that is left out because the band had done a lot during this time. You people need to be grateful that John, Roger, and Brian agreed to do this film. There were A LOT of excellent editing in this movie and you are telling a group of people that this movie has terrible editing, what a shame. And you must not have anything to do in your life if you are going to nitpick their editing mistakes. Did you actually see the Live Aid scene? Did you see the camera angle? Did you see the camera angles and movement throughout the movie? And since you had all the time to nitpick these mistakes J hope you realize that their editing skills mixed the actors voice and the group of the actual band’s voice together. Just wow, ungrateful.

Vor Monat
Big Boss Sam
Big Boss Sam

Disco Deacy you really thought writing out this long paragraph would make the editing any less bad

Vor Monat
Gordon Antell
Gordon Antell

This is from somebody who isn't a Film Editor or has ever worked on a Studio film. Utter garbage from an armchair critic.

Vor Monat
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad

You don't need to be a filmmaker to recognize bad editing; you base your judgment on the standard other filmmakers have set

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Yubi K.
Yubi K.

I love coming back to this video every now and then.

Vor Monat
Neh-Bih Sangbong
Neh-Bih Sangbong

The editing of this film made me pull a gasket.

Vor Monat
Gachachii 2
Gachachii 2

Wow. The editor of the movie just dropped an F-bomb in a podcast. SKSKSKSK Also, Gwilym Lee is a _bit_ taller than Brian May. Gwilym: 1.88 m Brian: 1.87 m I'M SHOOK

Vor Monat
Carter Creative
Carter Creative

I normally like your videos but this one is very pedantic and overly "know it all" in tone. Film editing, like anything creative, can be achieved in many ways.

Vor Monat
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad

@Carter Creative Said the guy who was emotional in both his original post and in his first reply. You're such a hypocrite with double standards

Vor Monat
Carter Creative
Carter Creative

@Morten Aanstad I disagree, no need to get emotional.

Vor Monat
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad

@Carter Creative What makes you an authority of what people don't get bothered by and not? You're also contradicting yourself by claiming that everything is up each and everyone like there are no standards or authorities for anything, but then come off as an authority yourself by claiming that the editing doesn't bother anyone. There's also something called "being critical to sources", and if the option is to listen to someone who has done some basic research (yes, BASIC research) on film editing or a random anarchist troll, then my decision is pretty obvious. "Pedantic and overly know it all tone". That's just some lazy excuse and defense mechanism people use just because they don't understand something or feel alienated, almost as if everything in this world has to be written for high school students

Vor Monat
Carter Creative
Carter Creative

@Morten Aanstad I watched the movie as your average movie goer and the editing did not bother me in the slightest. I very much doubt it bothered 99% of people who've seen the film either. It really is as simple as that and does not require analysis as such analysis is purely subjective, nothing more.

Vor Monat
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad

If you're going to challenge the conventions, then your suggestion should at least be something that's still aesthetically pleasing. For example, you could be creative and original by making a Star Wars movie consisting solely of Jar Bar Binks literally pissing over Han Solo's grave, but I don't think most people would enjoy that

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Marymead2
Marymead2

who put you in charge?

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the Hitler of the Heart
the Hitler of the Heart

The Oscar's make a lot more sense when you replace the word Best with the word Most.

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57 Year Old James Bond
57 Year Old James Bond

My favorite category is Most Picture

Vor 26 Tage
Pipsta
Pipsta

I WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN MY FAMILY TO NOTICE THIS..............

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Pipsta
Pipsta

Apart from this scene I really liked the first 70s tour montage especially the shot that goes through the bus and transitions into a concert scene. It wasn't that bad. This scene was bad because although in the contract there should have been the same screen time for all members of the band you could see that the director had told the camera operators to focus mainly on Freddie and Brian. That's why in a lot of scenes Roger and Deaky were together so they could make up for the screen time for those 2 characters.

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