Great stuff but I love them explaining widgets

Good the application

Cool

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These are some really nice QoL improvements! Should be a great update if things pan out as shown. $3500 is steep for the vast majority of people, but hopefully this + the PSVR2 can push the tech in the VR space (which has been stagnant for a while imo). The eyesight thing is actually pretty neat too. I hate the “cut off” feeling that I get when I’m using a regular vr headset.

Im wondering two things. What do you want to do out there? What will be first? People on the moon in a non-temporary way or a majority of people in VR?

​@Questionmarc the former is more likely

Have you tried a Quest? They've had see through mode for a couple years now, and it costs $400.

I just realized that it looks like hololens but cheaper

@Candybar121 Yes, but the use case is totally different. At most, pass through mode is good for finding your drink without taking the headset off. That’s all it really needs to do too since I only use it for games. The Vision is marketing itself as a media / productivity headset, and in that case, being able to fully engage with your environment and other people is way more important. The eyeballs on the display might be a bit much though haha. It’s a valid problem, but I’m not sure if their implementation is 100% there yet

For me every wwdc feels like a mix of "wow this is a really good quality of life improvement" and "this wasn't in iOS before?!?!"

Closed loop baybee...

The fact people are creaming in their pants about an update that allows them to set multiple timers (something even the most basic egg timer in your kitchen can do) after 5 years tells you exactly the level of reality distortion field.

@mattropolis99 my mind was blown at ticking of boxes in a widget haha, on the other hand I love the stuff with the contact cards when calling which is a nice idea, especially if you have your own ecosystem anyway

this is literally the "widget fades into background" vs "move widget anywhere" features.

@Link Thai i

Now the sidestand feature should be added to Ipad. Because one thing thats missing with these new devices and their camera abilities, is that you take all these photos when they matter and its just so tedious to go back and look through all of them. Having somewhere to display them at random is what needs to happen. So having like a digital photoframe to display selected pictures at random is whats needed to make all that photo taking count.

I don't think the price tag is a problem, it's a very risky endeavor and basically the first AR device of any consequence on the market. If this pans out it could be revolutionary and of course get cheaper as time goes on. Other companies will catch on and make much cheaper versions of the same quality, it's not like I'm going to Apple for cheap prices, their phones cost $1000...

Agreed. People don't understand what an early adopter is. Usually the first products of something are very expensive, and they get cheaper. Like the iPhone being super expensive and now we have cheaper iPhone models.

@Abandoned Cosmonaut People just want to hate because it’s Apple. The price makes sense considering it’s something never seen before and could be the beginning of something new. If people were expecting this to be cheap then they don’t know how business works lol

The Price tag is always a Problem..iphone didn't really take off until ATT and other providers Heavily subsidized them..I don't see that happening with this thing, 2nd while the form factor is smaller its still too damn big and makes you look like a MORON..until these things look like a pair of sunglasses they will never be more then a niche device. Watching Movies on a big screen? I can do that for 400 bucks on a LED 60 inch TV. This thing is Dead On arrival, another 5 to 10 years before we get Mass Appeal AR/VR

@Cyberwolf74 This device appears to be a direct competitor to the XR3! It does most of the same functions as the XR3 at a cheaper price. The XR3 is $7K & apple has manage to cut that price point in half! But, unfortunately, even $3.5 K is a high wall to climb!

The former is more likely..

Interactive widgets is actually the most useful update for me. Standby mode is nice too since I use MagSafe stands

But it works only on iphone 14 and up, or? Referring to the standby mode

Why did it take so loooong though to get them interactive 🥲

took them 10+ years

Finally just what I wanted ads and a paywall that I a can strap to my face

@Eugen Soare not sure until further information or until updated

Everyone’s talking about the Apple Vision, but I’m psyched about the transcribed audio messages. Such a time saver!

im hyped for the adaptive keyboard.

@Edwuano i'm excited for the voice dictation too. the current one is bad by 2014 standards. next up, i can imagine apple doing something big with siri and improving it a tonne. siri is currently super convenient and seamless but super unusable due to it being bad by idk man 2015 standards at best.

Google already introduced it last year and probably theirs will still be the best

Been in wechat for years

​@Joson Thomas yeai own a pixel 7pro 😂

I think alot of people will look at the price tag and be like who's gonna be buying that for £3500 but fail to look at the bigger picture and what it means for the future, I know there's loads of ar and vr glasses and platforms out there already but its not super mainstream Apple have a track record of promoting to the masses successfully and making things mainstream and a nessecity almost, in releasing this product there's gonna be a big boom in development in ar/vr even more so than there is now and it will deffo make its way to the forefront in the future

i honestly didn't realize you couldn't interact with widgets on iPad like that before. definitely feels like it should have been a thing this whole time

The visible eye feature is excellent for a work environment setting. Can i approach this person or not. How do we make these headsets more easily integrated into workforce settings. Its all quality design aesthetics. Its awesome to see Apple think of actual unique and new ideas. I can't wait to hear about the hands on experience.

We all know that vision pro technology is a future weve been expecting. But damn now that it’s actually happening, thats frking insane. And the more time passes, im sure this technology will become even more immersive. The future is crazy…

The headset looked awesome, if only for a limited, first-gen product, since it doesn't do gaming or PC streaming to my knowledge. But $3500 is even more than what was leaked! As a great man once said, the price is TGH!

Flossy!

It does Mac streaming... that's something. And it does games but not VR by the lack of mention so far... Oh what I'm I saying, it's so damn saaddddd 😭😭😭

It looks good for what it is... but I was really hoping it wouldn't be what it is. I was hoping for a similar concept, AR glasses that can replace real glasses (or at least be used with them). These glasses would be sleek, maybe the size of some of the bigger thicker Oakley sunglasses, and allow you to overlay information on your EVERYDAY life. Driving with maps overlayed onto the road, walking with messages/call notifications overlaying, virtual signs for stores popping up from maps data (stores can be hard to see, medical offices in larger buildings can be hard to find etc.). And, that's all common sense stuff, I'm sure they could think of some other innovative features, especially in the online dating space etc. Anyways, I was not looking forward to this type of headset, but I knew this was the useless crap they would do, because it's easy. But, the interface is nice, I will admit the tech for eye tracking and motion tracking is impressive, but I wish it wasn't used for a headset like this. I think my idea of the headset is still a decade away for Apple, mostly because of the size of the sensors and display tech.

The $3500 price tag is definitely targeting the upper class, I’m assuming to give Apple a good test audience. I imagine the next version will be $1700

While xreal air is already $400

@Steven Anthony Aren't you a little condescending?

I will not even buy it if they sell it for 5$. Wtf 😂😂😂

Try $999

It's targeting the workplace.. They'll make a consumer-grade level in a year or two at half the pricepoint if not lower.

Great stuff but I love them explaining widgets. It's one of the main reasons I wouldn't get an iOS like device and hearing them make it sound new is funny.

I was like FINALLY!! Throughout the whole recap. It feels like they are slowly adding features that should already be on a phone.

Apple brought Standby Mode to iOS17 I think next year they going to bring it to the iPadOS once there is an iPad with MagSafe. Apple likes to put iPhone features on iPad one year later. I.e Widgets customisation (iOS 15/iPadOS 16) and Home Screen Customisation (iOS16/iPadOS 17)

Wondering what specs the Vision has, though expensive it could replace such things as TV etc making it worth the price tag

Highly doubt it will replace the TV… at the end of the day the vision is for the use of one person, and we still don’t know if it’s the kind of thing that will hurt your eyes after continuous use. Plus the fact that it’s only for one person means it’s not really the same as a TV, a TV is a big screen which I feel like is mostly used when consuming content together no? When consuming content alone I feel like most people default to a phone or computer instead

Vision Pro amazing, once again they tell every brand that they're one step ahead. but the price $3499? now other brands gonna charge it for $1000 and less

They waited for the vr market to develop and mature and then kind of improved what's already out there, let's not act like it's revolutionary

Just an amazing video of what tech is going to look like, being able to see through the glass, and talk to someone while working at the same time is going to be a game changer, And watching Shows and Gaming on it. I got to say the future looks bright, considering your able to get some glasses for it that are magnetic if you need glasses, I just wondering when it comes out what are the athletes going to show, All i was thinking was what a snowboarder is going to look like while going down a mountain recording his path, that will be an cool little video to have, shoot maybe some hunters getting chased by a bear while running through the woods would be funny to watch too. Of course as long as things don't go bad. U know! LOL 3500, and wondering if it will come with and extra large battery or can buy another one to keep going for the whole day would be nice too. It's going to replace the computer version 2.0 should be pretty cool too! MMM Coming next yr mm

Not gonna take off! Zero chances!

I do think that’s the future, but the design has to get down to the glasses level. Most people are not going to want to wear a headset like that with a battery pack just to do normal activities. Plus, having a conversation with someone else in the room while wearing that is just weird.

@Sarah Kenney Exactly. This kinda reminds me of that Dyson Zone headset mask that came out a few weeks back. That was a hideous looking thing. 😂 If it needs mass appeal, it needs to be more subtle. 😎

So I’ve read some of the comments here an obviously the price tag of $3500 bucks is quite offputting for a lot of people, however, you don’t have to buy it, as I am sure there’s going to be some adaptation of this going forward that will take advantage of the economies of scale, and the price will be lower on these AR/VR headsets, but I was hoping that they were announcing the launch of their smart glasses that you can wear like regular eyewear, so at this point, I don’t really plan to run out and buy one of these. However, it is an interesting technology to keep track of, as this develops into a much more pragmatic, and useful product that will be helpful to more people.

Yes, I love the tech, but they’ve GOT to get these headsets down to a pair of glasses for people to use them like they do other devices. Wearing a big headset isn’t comfortable, natural, or unobtrusive.

Dont care about 3500€ i might not buy one anytime soon but i really like how they really created a very polished product , i hope that the expectations are true

Let's remember that if your place looks like crap, the pass through vision is money you spend and never got anything back.

It's always interesting to see what features iphone users get. Especially to see how apple implements something we had for years

how many years of updates does your phone get?

@Damien Georges damn… bro really chatting about the sad 2years of updates. No coming back from that one.

Samsung may only give them about 3 or 4 years of updates but at least it still works after that.

I'm an android guy but Apple takes it's time and implements things with much better thought. Having things first isn't always better if it continues to be stuck in old paradigms.

​@Damien Georges 3 and 2 extra for security. At that point its good to upgrade

Wow! Apple has somehow discovered movable widgets! And swipe to reply on a chat! Truly, greatest innovation of 2023. Next year, they might discover icons which can be placed anywhere on the screen.

Or what if they invent a new technology that lets you download apps from anywhere instead of just the stupid App Store? That would be amazing and completely never seen before!

It's amazing to me that you can just mentally dismiss what is arguably the biggest innovation in computing since the Original iPhone. That headset will replace our phones, a cheaper version will release and as usual Android phone makers will copy it poorly.

@SlothOnAStickExactly. 😂

@SlothOnAStick ummmm okay?

​@SlothOnAStickDo you really wanna get punched wearing that hideous thing out in public?!? 😂

I firmly believe that the Vision Pro is NOT intended to be widely used by general consumers. We already know Apple is working on a second MUCH cheaper version that will be releasing in the relatively near future. This launch is to make the technology available to developers and enthusiast who can start to bring this new platform value. As well as work out any kinks in the user interface because if I'm being honest, the native VisionOS is the most lackluster piece for me personally. I think that just updating the designs and adding more customization like being able to customize the EyeSight display on the front of the headset will be a huge way for users to express themselves. Apple needs to make this technology available to developers so they can start making these apps so people will actually use it outside of just the gaming space which most VR/AR is used for today.

Just like the first iPhone

Their cheaper version will be a worse quest 2/3

@Matic better*

@WerrutkyUpNext💪 lol

@Matic lol

If it can connect to a standard pc and allow me to use my monitors I already have and/or just the computer in general. Then I’d love that. The thing is if I have to use these hand gestures there’s no way it’s worth it. I would love something like this so if I’m traveling I can work with a pseudo multi monitor display but I need the keyboard and mouse. I refuse to use hand gestures. I cannot sacrifice productivity.

It would've been better if they launched a standard vision at 499. 😊 (And keep the vision pro in the pipeline).

True but then they wouldn’t have been able to have nearly as much tech and would probably just be an Apple branded meta headset

Xreal air

@Math man Chris Playstation VR 2 has hand and eye tracking for $500, surely ape could've figured out a way to make a cheaper alternative in the $1500 range to compete with meta.

No new apple product would ever be 499, your delusional. If they create a simpler version it will provably be 2000.

A "standard version" for 7 times less??? Are you serious? This IS the standart version, imagine they called it "apple vision enhanced" it would be enhanced because it "enhances" your vision, not because it's some enhanced version of the device.

Imagine the experience would be nearly the same as cardboard VR. For 3.5k it has to be far better than actual best VR headsets.

That iPad that can just zoom into your hand (5:45), can't wait for when they release that.

Oh that’s a skill you have to learn by reach the max level in this simulation.

I’m definitely going to Wait for Apple Vision 2 with the M3 and R2 chip

This breakthrough innovation is called eyesight “wow magical “

😂

Yeah I got a good laugh at that too 😂😂😂

I came to comments to look for this 😭😭😭

😂I can’t stop 😂

Can’t beat gods creation

lot of cool features not gonna lie. we need more of this

Am I the only one who can't help but feel like we're get dangerously close to a very real dystopia?

The eyesight feature is by far its best gimmick.

3499 is really a high price for me, after all, that's the first version, maybe they would release Apple vision after the technology going mature and the price will go down

Price declines in an apple device ? That would be the first time

​@BabyYoda1410 I mean it's Vision Pro now, with Vision or something lower level, the price maybe would be declined.

@BabyYoda1410 remember that SE lines exist…

Tbh this is more of a developer and workplace product. Realistically what normal consumer will buy this, not even like its great for gaming like a oculus

It is a beta product - they are getting first users on it. They won't sell many compared to their other products

It's always interesting to see what features iPhone users get.

Hey it might be 3500 dollars but I’m thinking this might be the first mixed/virtual reality headset that isn’t a gimmick disguised as a product

VR by itself has been far from just a gimmick for many years now. The poor reception to Meta has caused stagnation in the tech’s development but hopefully this reinvigorates the community. I truly believe this tech will change our world like AI.

I’d rather just get something like the NReal Air for $400ish tbh. Ofc the fidelity and feature set isn’t as robust, but it still has the same core functionalities at a significantly more reasonable price and it’s way more lightweight and don’t look stupid wearing in public bc they just look like sunglasses

Yeah apple is insane. No real advantages over nreal that it couldnt get with software

I was like "Give em a chance and let see what the vision pro offer" until I saw the price tag.

I was sure last year would end terrible for me but I think Amazons AMZT30 is spot on with what they do and how they do it. Can't say for how long it's going to work and for sure it is overyhped right now but even if just half a year or something it would be smart to ride the wave and then jump away eventually, but the reason why this is smart right now is because it's so cheap, won't ever find a better entry than now

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These scams are getting pathetic.

report this comment, this is scam/spam

@Deffinnition I reported all that I could. Up to YouTube to do their job, or let me run it lol

I thought the headset was gonna be 10k when they mentioned the build quality and M2 chip. Just like Iphones this wont be for everyone but I definitely want one

I was like wow this is a great product and then the price hit and I was like yeah I’ll wait for Black Friday 2025

Think about when they released the first iPad and fooled the audience with a price tag at 999$ and then they suddenly changed it to 499$ ❤ I really miss Steve Jobs

This is a way way more expensive to make product

uhm, the tag was definitely not $5000. it was $999 and then $499.

Yeah he was really good at manipulating people

I want vison pro to flourish it's the future I like the concept and the flawless implementation but I guess it will die with that price tag like the mini died as no one purchased it

At this point Apple actually deserves our money. They've been working hard and the vision is next level tech.

This thing is gonna be a new standard for leading vr and it’s gonna change the way we look at vr. It’s expensive yes but was the first iPhone released any cheaper for the time it was released in and how little we got out of it? This thing is a VR PC that has POWER and you won’t need a pc to power it. That in itself is worth the 3500

I feel like I've been using most of these newly released features on my Samsung for years. I already have most of them since my Galaxy Note 5. Good thing they'll catch up lol

It had me bursting out in tears when they introduced EyeSight.... who in their right minds would interact with another human being without taking off their VR goggles???

no it didn't have you bursting out in tears.

It's nice being able to have audio passthrough on earbuds and headphones so you can interact without removing them. It would be handy to keep the goggles on. Also lets you work on more sensitive material.

Someone who’s working on a deadline and doesn’t have the time maybe?

Couple of comments ... $3500 prices out a lot of people from the VR goggles market ... also, they keep comparing the performance of their new stuff to "Intel-based Mac" which they last released a model of in 2020.

I knew it was going to be expensive but damn… no way it’ll sell at that price, as cool as it is, it’s pretty gimmicky

it's for pros.

The only legitimate use case they showed in the presentation was media consumption in public transport. Everything else was just a wasteful way of addressing problems that we already have better solutions for.

@Carlos Vixil no, it’s for rich people with money to waste

You could copy and paste this comment from a 2007 video about the iPhone.

@The mind is a tool of the body I travel and work. Often overseas. I have wanted something like this for. along time. I got the quest pro for the purpose of a mobile workstation - and the resolution and comfort kills it for that use case. Also, people saying $3.5k can't be justified at this price point haven't seen what people pay for their home theaters.

Apple just introduced PC / Console level gaming specifically- that’s a big deal because MEDIA makes all this powerful hardware fun.

Do they have exclusive AAA games? That is what sells hardware to gamers

Not yet- Kojima of the Metal Gear franchise is porting over Death Stranding and committed to all future projects on the platform@e3vL1. With Apples unified silicon and OS environment, they have the control of consoles with the power of dedicated PC’s.

Guys who is gonna tell him?

@Daryle Hamel death stranding is a 4 year old game multiplatform port of games released years later don't sell hardware. Sony and Nintendo are leading the video game market because they have exclusive games to their hardware day 1

@Daryle Hamel you make laugh, this is satire right?

Thoughts on Vision Pro vs *Amazons AMZT30* ? I believe Amazon has the edge in many thing, this included

Vision Pro will be relevant with OTA charging, or with new tech batteries providing at least 5h power. Now you would need to stop charging as most movies are above 2h..

I sense potential security risks when using the Apple Vision... you are less focus on your surroundings and danger may be lurking behind you without you seeing it

Mac is getting the widget feature I miss from Windows Vista!!

What we imagined will finally come true…

What is that? Lol

Only part that wasn't underwhelming was the M2. All the other stuff is like, oh.. how convenient. I predict the goggles will be a major fail until they get them down under 1k

can't believe this is happening in our lifetime

I think I can safely speak for the world who I say, Thank you Apple for finally inventing eyesight! 🤣

3500 bucks? I mean, im 100% sure that the experience with this VR headset would be incredible, but too expensive

God they blew it with that price.

I love that they just announced Windows Gadgets as a new feature in 2023🤣

Those contact posters are probably one of the most basic things that no phones have. Also will two apple watches be able to transfer contact posters.

waiting for Vision SE 🎉

The Vision Pro is expensive but damn that product got me intrigued!

At the price I still don’t see the use case. Like what Can this do that is substantially better than just opening apps in your phone or computer? At the same time it’s just more comfortable to manipulate a solid object than have something on your face and do hand gestures, with the added benefit of being able to share a screen with anyone in the room. This seems prototypical at best. The only way AR will become ubiquitous is if it is affordable and the headset is as light as glasses so the convenience+ privacy factor becomes worth the hassle.

@Gerhard Damm You can still use accessories like mouse & keyboard

Give it a few product generations and we’ll see if it catches on…

Why?

@Gerhard Damm Look at what people are willing to pay for home theaters. This does that and much more. $3.5k is easily justified.

como é que alguém achou o design do óculos feio kkkkk. achei muito bonito e em alguns aspectos inovador

Oh "eye sight" what a ground breaking innovation 😂

if you are a full time astronaut then yes go for it!

So looks good for VR snorkeling,😅 Now seriously what is the actual percieved resolution when watching movies zoomed to 100" ? and of course does it support HDR ? if so at what nit level? The billion pixels is jaw dropping and all that environment mapping is powerful stuff . RIP movie theatres 😢

Good catch, this VR looks like googles & kinda look like youre a scuba diver upon using it. Lol 🥽🥽🥽😄😅😂

I want those goggles lol I really love their products but I am no where rich enough to ever get anything other than the iphone and ipad. My MacBook is so outdated it's louder than a windows from early 2000's lol

“ducking word” it’s the best part of this WWDC

Facts 😂

ngl the ipad flying into his hand was also up there

@oh lord have mercy Bro did a Thor

​@oh lord have mercy oh yeah, best 40 seconds from this WWDC

Nvm 5:09

Yeah they lost me at $3500 way above my pay grade. Going to wait until they mass produce alternatives that are in the $400 range. Maybe in next 4 years will try this tech out.

“A headphone jack for versatile connectivity” no way a headphone jack is a selling point now, what a world we live in

As sad as it is, a headphone jack has been a 'feature' for the last 5 years. But calling 3 total ports 'versatile connectivity' is honestly a joke. Sure its thunderbolt so you can use a dongle and get a bunch of ports, but then its the dongle that's versatile, not the laptop 🤡

It's very cool and I am excited but at the same time it all feels very dystopian.

Vision pro would be a good thing 10 years ago right now in its a bulky design that’s outdated. I’m interested to see how apple develop this product and make it smaller like glasses.

Maybe in 5 years I'll get Vision Pro 5 but currently the best way is *Amazons AMZT30*

So everybody who held out from buying your iPad mini six, just last time thinking to 7 would come out this year. Winning! Knew it was totally worth the buy this year earlier. Hey if you wanna get one should get one though they are awesome...

Apple in few years: Introducing new feature credit score 🔥🔥🔥😳

If you just ignore the AR VR thing. Apple was just playing catch up with Google and Samsung.

They bet the whole presentation on it😂

well that what they always do they don't invent New stuff they Improve already existing stuff iphone-Android/Windows/blackberry Phones, Ipod- Mp3players, Ipad -Google/MS Tablet's MACs-IBM PC's, this is Just a Better Microsoft Hololens.

If adaptive audio filters out air blowers, is it smart enough to know not to filter out similar but important sounds like electric car engine whirr?

Thank you for the summarized video

OMG Apple finally has interactive widgets…. 😂😂😂

That was on samsung for like 4 years

@Ahmed Mahomed try 10 years

@POST MORTEM try 40 seconds ago

We have advanced to the bronze age. Next they will make the phone rotatable in home screen. Revolutionary

Apple literally brought the stackable widgets and everyone copied them, tf u on about

Incredible 👌🔥🥰

“This breakthrough innovation is called…eyesight.” 😂😂😂😂

Imagine watching your Insta360 videos with this.

yoo that would be cool

but is it a that big difference to like quest 2

Too poor to afford one. Both insta 360 and Apple vision pro.

Bleeding eyes. Image resolution is owfull.

You would promote that……

the day they bring back steve jobs as a holographic AI then i will be impressed.

I guess I can’t afford innovation at it’s current price! Loved it though

Really amazing updates no joke

Don't you guys think the vision pro is going to be the future of smartphones? I feel like it'll take over the world someday regardless of its price tag. You guys keep saying it's a gimmick and whatnot but trust me... it's the future.

$3500 Not including ppl who wear glasses who have to pay more for prescription lenses. And apple prices dont go down, the product might get better but the price ain’t dropping

I just wear my contacts when i goto the movies or rides at universal studios. The price is definitely high but then again, apple is like the chanel or gucci of software and devices all because it cost more :/

They might release the non pro version later with lower price instead

It's Apple, they're a luxury brand, tf u expect?

you dont actually see through it, there are cameras that simulate seeing the world

​@mealthy with xreal air you see thru them

Finally, I can play ultra immersive sub way surfers without vandalizing trains in real life!

Yea same, but first I must Rob the bank 😅😂

@Tropical  True tho here in canada, it's 5k Canadian dollars

@NightSide02 wow 5k sounds even worse. What’s the exchange rate

$3500 gives a huge gap for low cost AR to take advantage, as always, marketing is in the price.

Well, until you wait for Apple to give you an affordable version. Quest Pro, or Quest 3. Way under that price point and not that far in features.

Is there something they aren’t telling us? it’s called the Vision PRO. Why was it necessary add “PRO”? Is there an entry level version that will also be available when released? Just like a macbook PRO is pro relative to regular macbook, the Vision PRO is pro relative to what?

Apple really missed a good opportunity to have another landscape photo for macOS Sonoma

Damn. I just bought myself a macbook air 16unified 256gb should have waited for the next macs. But nah gonna grab that soon with the M2 Max chip.

Finally just what I wanted ads and a paywall that I a can strap to my face

I happy you apple folks finally got real widgets. Like 15 years late but better than never.

The last good thing I owned by Apple was a Power Mac 7500. And no, I'm not the kind of person who longs for "the good old days," I love new tech but Apple just seems tired. Typing this on an iPad Pro which I got because my Android tablet died and this came with ProCreate, turned out not to be a good idea.

Being able to interact with widgets right on home screens a new thing? 😂

Hopefully Sonoma doesn't end up like vista with those widgets on the desktop