I found the boost cores exceeding 5ghz at such low wattage to be the most interesting thing. Glad AMD was able to maintain efficiency and not go back toward the bulldozer, space heater days.

Nah, Intel felt the Bulldozer method was PERFECT for the 12900K. 🤣👍

proof that the classic x86 compatible PC architecture still has life in it. We're not nearly to the point where we're stuck piling on the power to keep up. Nonmodular proprietary SOC systems can suck our collective, ahem, flashdrives.

Bulldozer was with the last CEO over 10 years ago. AMD has no reason to go back to that BS

Increasing TDP over intel designed tdp along consuming the same amount of power as raptor lake, i really doubt AMD is maintaining efficieny

@@ishiddddd4783 seems to be

Man when I built my first rig 10 years ago, you couldn't pay me to use AMD. Now it's a no brainer... Amazing to see such a turn around

I been with AMD since day one son;)

I went with Phenom II back in 2011 or so bc it looked like the best bang for the buck, unfortunately I had a terrible Nvidia graphics card so I couldn't fully utilize the system

I built an AMD rig about 10 years ago. I knew it wouldn't be as good as Intel but AMD was projected to go bankrupt so a few of us felt like we needed to make that sacrifice. Now I'm very pleased I did because AMD had just enough money to rise from the ashes and the CPU industry is fun again. They were very dark days when Intel stopped innovating due to a lack of competition.

Young whipper snappers in here :o) I go back about 22 years with pc. When AMD dropped the A64 they destroyed intel in gaming. Took intel a few years to finally come out with the Core 2 duo and caught back up. It has been back and forth for years as far as gaming goes. Whatever is king at time of build is what I go with lol. Currently sitting with a 5950 @ 4.6Ghz across all cores.

@@jbourgeois5092 Athlon 64 FX-60 get off my lawn

That's great that AMD has once again confirmed their intention of keeping a new AM5 Socket across different CPU generations and architectures! Bravo!

Only time I had a chance to use an AMD PC was way back in 2003... an Athlon XP with 256 MB of RAM

Should i buy a core i3 12100 or i5 12400 or should i wait for this is there any budget option????

@@amirhb7531 lol.intel sucks. Go for Ryzen 5 5600g.. a budget gaming APU. You don't even need a discrete GPU if you are on a tight budget, its integrated gpu is great.Just pair it with 3200mhz of ram.

Let's just hope the community won't have to "fight" on social media for the extended support

@@Test-yl6jp Why is AMD called Advanced Micro Devices? Because we got Adreno GPU in our phones...

3:50 The jump from 105W to 170W is not because of the 5.7 boost, it is because the 7900 and 7950 have two CCDs (Core Complex Die). The 7900 and the 7950 are pairings of the 7600 and 7700 respectively. The 7600 has 1x6 core die and the 7700 has 1x8 core die, the 7900 has 2x6 core dies and the 7950 has 2x8 core dies.

Your statement is massively correct and appreciated, I just saw the point now, including the cache correlation which is so perfect

He's comparing the 7950X to the previous generation 5950X. The 5950X also had 2 core dies and had a 105W TDP. Jay is probably right that the increase in clock speed is the reason.

Can anyone elaborate a little on the actual difference in "performance" of having your cores on a single or on dual Dies ? Thanks

@@anjayl Core to core latency. It matters in mt apps which threads, or partnering apps and libraries which, have to share data. If they all fit on the same CCX and the OS' CPU scheduler keeps them there the app won't be affected.

@@uncrunch398 Thanks, so, single die is better if I understand correctly ?

I've been building PC's for the better part of my life. Die hard Intel. Until this last build, I went AMD I got a 5950X. I've never lost and Intel, I cannot complain about Intel. But I am excited to support growth no matter where it comes from, and I agree NVIDIA needs the competition Intel got.

That chip is wildly good. I'm a power user that builds a generation behind, tossed that in my x470 slapped a 200mm aio on the thing in an ITX case and I have an encoding powerhouse. Just need the 3080 to hit below actual msrp so I can ditch my 2060 Super...

The thing AMD have been doing right since Zen 1 is to focus on efficiency first, then scale it up later as the underlining technology matures. It's a lesson both Intel and Nvidia thought they had much longer to wait until they needed to start to learn it. Already we're seeing Nvidia GPUs in the same position Intel CPUs were a few years back.... they have the raw horsepower but they didn't really have the scalability behind it to take it much further without sweeping architectural changes, and so in order to keep appearances of staying ahead of AMDs offerings each generation they have to push their focus on raw horsepower harder and harder showing the cracks in terms of power consumption and iterative gains. And lets be honest here, DLSS has saved Nvidia for a while now. What was meant to be a alternative Anti-Aliasing technology that was pretty flaky in results was quickly re-directed and re-marketed by Nvidia as a resolution scaling technology to obscure just how tight the performance gap between AMD and Nvidia now is, even in Real Time Ray Tracing usage. Someone at Nvidia was clearly aware of what was happening and the position they would find themselves in across the next few generations due to the sheer time it would take to address the core architecture approach to their GPUs that they currently have adopted, and the decision to lean on software solutions as a crutch to try soften the blow was pretty smart. But without a radical change in approach, it is only slowing the pace. Not changing the outcome

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So your point is thanks to TSMC they are competitve again.

@@SSC0815 Not how hardware architecture capability works.

@@Tiki832 True but prduction has big influence though.

The thing I've liked about AMD the past few years is that while they're improving performance, in comparison to NVIDIA and Intel they're seeming to be putting more focus on still being more efficient. Seems like the other two are now just throwing efficiency out the window and going for raw power

AMDs goal of 50% perf per watt improvement every gen is a good one. So far they've been able to keep at it or better for RDNA2 and going off AMD info they've done it for RDNA3 as well.

SFFPCs are going to be AMD only builds by definition now. It's silly what Nvidia and Intel are doing to stay relevant in the face of this incredible level of engineering.

I remember that only a few years ago (2015) AMD were selling chips like the FX-8500 and FX-6300 and people were telling jokes about their GPUs being great room heaters. Now the reverse is true. In a few years people will be on about AMD's "venerable Zen architecture" and Intel will be where it's at again. To be fair, I used to see tech reviewers comparing an FX-6300 to a core i5 processor costing 3 times as much and declaring the AMD was trash because it wasn't as good as the intel and people should just "spend the extra" (easy to say when you're comparing review samples that you don't have to pay for!). So far with Ryzen 7000 I like the onboard graphics (i'm not going to call it a GPU!). But the fact that the lowest TDP is given as 105watt is a concern. Keep in mind nobody (other than AMD!) has taken a close look at these chips I consider that a huge unresolved issue - it'll keep them firmly outside of the corporate space if they draw that frequently. I suspect it's just poor marketing and the system will only draw that in a desperate hail-mary situation but whether the average CTO will be able to assimilate that or not is another matter.

@@Rapscallion2009 your worries are misplaced. Zen 4 will outperform a 12900k while power limited to 65 watts.

Intel and NVidia are like palpatine - unlimited powerrrrr

It's great seeing AMD go from an overheating joke to an efficiency king. I was super surprised at the 5.7ghz clocks, but so glad to see them finally show up on cpus. I felt like 3/4ghz was never going to improve after 12 years between them. I'm really stoked at how well these cpus are looking compared to last gen ...and I really want to get my hands on the proper 3D chip that'll come out, since the last one was just a prototype.

Just a simple production switch from globalfoundries to TSMC did this....

As an Intel fan, I love this. Intel has been sitting stagnant for far too long, and hopefully this thrashing will be what it takes to get them working again. THE EFFICIENCY ALONE is breathtakingly good! And that's BEFORE looking at the clock speeds. 👏🏻 GG AMD. That's all I have to say. Well done! 👏🏻

Honestly, it's best that both sides keep one-upping each other. It's what pushes for improvement that trickles down to be enjoyed by consumers. If either side gets ahead too much they're liable to get comfortable. It's good when either side can get you excited for what they offer.

@@xlxOutlawxlx Exactly my point! I fully agree. 👍🏻

I like that take. For the last few years it seems Intel wants a chip it can point to and say "It's the fastest!" Does it take 900W to power the thing? WHO CARES? FASTEREST!!! I'm okay with a 105W TPD CPU paired with a quiet, efficient GPU. I don't want a space heater that competes with my fridge for power and sounds like a window fan and I don't care how fast the damned thing is if burns the world down. Go AMD and hopefully Intel pulls their collective heads out of wherever they've been.

@American Legend fair, if you're looking ahead to 13th Gen. I'm just calling it as I see it regarding 12th Gen power:performance ratios.

The last time AMD did this, Intel struck back with the Core 2 Duo and doubled down on efficiency. I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again. I look forward to seeing both companies innovating and competing at their best. We all win when they do.

I've been in and out of IT industry since the 286. With Intel, AMD and Cyrix leapfrogging each other on price, performance, overclocking and Best Bang per Buck, the early days were interesting times. I have been somewhat removed from the industry for the last 15 years. I've kept up a steady interest to kinda keep my head in the technology space as it were, but now its getting exciting again. Thanks for the clear roundup of what's happened recently with AMD bounding ahead again after being the underdog for the last what... 20 years? I switched allegiance several times in the 386 / 486 days, even giving Cyrix a go. But Intel was still my goto for most of that time. Thanks for the brief but informative review of current and future AMD products and how the compare with the increasingly complacent and possibly lazy Intel. I'm looking to upgrade my current PC, more because its getting old now, not that its really wanting, but it is approaching 7 years old. AMD will definitely be getting a serious look. Thanks Jay

I'm excited to see the overclock potential of these new chips considering they are boosting at such low wattages.

The race is back on, I should be good for a few years on my 5900X so I'm excited to see the back and forth between AMD and Intel.

I mean I would hope so, I'm still using a 1600AF.

Same with my 5900x. No reason to be burning more money

Let me begin by saying that I am a long time AMD fan. I hope Intel comes back with a counter punch soon, because a heated race benefits the entire community. That being said, it is nice to see what AMD has become under Dr. Su.

@@recession_guy6613 There ARE geekbench benchmarks floating around, and the 13900k beats the 7950x by a tiny TINY bit. The PROBLEM is that the 13900k is apparently overclocked and drawing 350w+ for those benchmarks.

You can say that again, mate. Bc for couple gens, even intel high tier processors like i7's only had four cores. Meanwhile on today, the cheapest i3 12100 has already got four cores. I checked on userbenchmark the i3 12100 beat the 17 6700K.

@@recession_guy6613 ...so you agree that healthy competition between two companies benefits consumers?

@@darkred1688 he doesn't understand that we are consumer. This is how the consumer wins is by company competition

@@recession_guy6613 you seem to be the only fanboy here

Nice to see AMD doing so well. Would absolutely love it if they can give nvidia a good thrashing as well

In all honesty, this makes me excited for the future intel chips (perhaps, the 1400 series or so). To see these two companies trying to on-up each other only helps the consumer no matter if you're AMD or Intel biased.

In a world where most people either see red, green or blue, it's not a bad thing to be colourblind 😜 That beeing said: i am performance and effeciency biased. I'd love to see Intel keep up. But i fear: when they keep this architecture thing with P- and E-cores, the 14000 series will not be any better than Raptor Lake, and that already has to pack heat...💩

LOL, that does not look like a one-up. In the Game of One-upmanship, I think thats at least 2-3 UpManShip.😁

Looking forward to that combination of power & efficiency hitting the laptop/SoC realm, especially when it's combined with RDNA3!

This is all very exciting, but I really really want to see whats on the road map for the technology behind 3D Cache, because I have this sneaking feeling that it could be used for so much more than just extra cache. More specifically, to "fold" the current chip in a way that lets them double _everything_ without compromising on trace distance.

For me personally i used to love intel, then swapped to Threadripper 1950x for work, and i will say i am super excited about this. Since well... Its good for us the consumers / companies that use their products. Since it just pushes the limits. Im excited!

I hope AMD can pull a Ryzen with their GPUS

I hope so but Nvidia isn't Intel....

What? AMD GPUs are great, I personally only go Nvidia but the 6950XT beats my 3090.

If their gpus provide similar performance to the 40 series nvidia cards but at a lower tdp I could see that happening

AMD GPUs with chiplets are coming before the end of the year.

@@Cloud971 Is that why AMD in 3 generations went from their flagship RX590 that could barely keep up with a 1060, to the 5700XT that got up to and beat 2070 speed, to now the 6900/6950XT trading punches with 90 Tier Nvidia GPU's. 🤔 I expect 7975XT to really hurt the 4090, especially once AMD masters Ray Tracing technology.

These numbers are exciting, of course, and some of the user scores have been phenomenal. Not excited about it being LGA though, but I understand why it had to be done. Prices look good. Yeah, I'm always excited to build a new PC. But I still think I'd want to wait. Some of the better boards come out later in sockets cycle.

Was glad to hop on the red team for my last PC build. Went with AMD 5000 series and I was not disappointed. Glad to see AMD is keeping the market competitive and hopefully forces intel to make their prices more reasonable as they lose market share.

pretty impressive stuff, can't wait to see them benchmarks, but i think 3nm node by 2024 is fairly unlikely. love your content, keep it up jay!

That depends on what you'll use them for. They'll be costly so the difference must be large to upgrade. In addition, the bios for new processors will need upgrading a lot the first year to take care of all crashes people have. Older systems may be more reliable.

The rate that technology is improving and the amazing performance increase that comes with it is amazing to me. I'm a AMD fanboy, I love supporting the "underdogs." Makes me happy to see what they have in store!

The Ryzen 7950X is showing just how fast AMD caught up to Intel with a very well designed and thought out solution. A 16c/32t CPU that boosts up to 5.7 GHz with the very optimized power usage is amazing. The 7950X is obviously a flagship workstation CPU that doesn't make sense for gaming purposes(the 7700X seems to be the sweet spot to me) but the same technology is used in the other 7-series Ryzens. Amazing feat by AMD.

tbf its all Consumer CPU's I have the 5950X and a buddy has a 5900X and we have the same 64GB ram and RTX 3080 but in multi core games i still get 10-14 fps more than him. So it does work for gaming. And i bought the 16 core so i can upgrade in 10 years again. I used my i7 4790K since 2020 when i bought my 5950X everyone told me the i7 4790K was overkill for gaming. I could upgrade to a 16 core cpu in 7 years time. They had to upgrade their cheaper i5's around 2017 already because it did not have threading so it simply would micro stutter in their games. So yeah. Flagships are just as good for gaming as for workflow. If simply put i spend less money over the time from my i7 4790K to my 5950x than my buddies who bought a i5 4670 to a i7 8700k to a 5900x

Exciting! Im still enjoying my ryzen 5900x, but I think i'd like the 7900x-3d-stack when those come out. I've stayed with AMD the whole way thru, when you choose the right parts they last, I only retired my AMD FX-9370 system last year to build the 5900x system lol, last old system still runs perfectly too. Its nice seeing AMD on top again, they've always had great products, but often bigger marketing budgets would eat away at their margins, finally more realize how good AMD actually is, i hope they keep up the competition and continue to innovate, its a win/win all around.

Absolutely so excited to see AMD bring the fight to Intel the way it's has! I am really looking forward to RDNA3, that's gonna be the real fight we need AMD to win against Nvidia. I've always had Intel systems up until 2018 and paired each system with a AMD/ATI Radeon GPU. Would absolutely, hands down LOVE to go full AMD in the very near future!

I went full AMD back in 2020 with my gaming rig after getting tired of having issues with Intel-based systems so much. My rig hosts a Ryzen 7 3700X with Radeon RX 5500 XT GPU. It might be using "old parts" but for all the gaming I do, it's an absolute beast. A nice perk is that it's a comfortable $1,500 space heater for the colder seasons! Full stats: Motherboard: ASRock Steel Legend B450M GPU: ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 5500 XT CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 3200 4 X 8GB Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mini black MicroATX mid tower

Its good to see sustained competition from AMD. I have swung between Intel then AMD then Intel and now AMD again over the last 25+years, its good to see AMD sustaining their competition currently, we are definitely seeing better CPU progress now compared to the time between Core2 and Core-i to 6th gen when AMD was struggling (though I do still have my AMD FX6300 running stable at 4.5GHz, built as a low cost secondary to my i7-3770K primary which I still have also). Computers are more fun when there is competition, now if we can just get those GPU prices to drop a little more....

It’s crazy that since they went hardcore on core count from the start, they still don’t need to add cores to their lineup to be competitive. Though I wonder how they will price something like the 7600x vs the 12600k when the latter has 4 more cores. That being said, the hedt platform that inevitably comes after ryzen will just be insane. Can you imagine a 64 core monster where each core is faster than a 12900k? With the ability to run 512gb of ddr5? With crazy motherboards that have 6-8 gen 5 m.2 slots. We will be getting to the point where the only thing holding back insane balls to the wall computers that everyone lusts over on YouTube is the power supply. 2050 watts just isn’t enough. We need 3000w titanium modular psus now. How else are the big creators going to spend a few days building 4-7x nvlink 4090tis with a 7990x? Use to psus? I think not.

I’ve been tuned out of the pc world for a couple years now. To see how AMD has been leaping and bounding their previous generations makes me feel like innovation is alive again. I’m so glad I took the dive and bought Ryzen first gen, upgraded to second gen. Now I’m actually looking quite forward to upgrading not because I need it but because I’m excited by what AMD has to offer. All I need now is a better offering from them that can compete with NVidia and I’ll be switching to only AMD

I decided to give AMD a second chance after my FX-8350 and went with them again, upgrading to a ryzen 5 3600. Glad I did, AMD customer for the foreseeable future! Excited for AM5!

Did the same. From a FX 8350, to a 5800x. Best decision I made at that time. Definitely will remain on Team Red, for the forseeable future !

im in the same boat as you pretty much but went from a 6300 to a 3700x. I'll be waiting 'till the 8000 series at a minimum because adopting a new platform is almost always ill advised, my concerns being in the memory speed department. you'd have to pay me to be a beta tester for a machine im expected to do work on for 5+ years.

Same path I've taken! I've been using AMD processors all my life, though. Good stuff. Even the FX-8350 still holds up, no matter what people say. It's still going strong on my wife/son PC.

@@ron200088 5800x is like that one underrated player in a nba team that actually plays a roll and does it well

Nah there overhyped by fan Boys Intel actually has the value and performance right now.

Really glad to see AMD is making good products again. My current PC is a i5-6400 that i got like 6 years ago i believe, and before that I had two AMD CPU machines, first one was a laptop and the one after was a desktop and man did they suck especially with certain games/applications. Once I got my 6400 i was stunned at how much better it ran in everything. Prior to these 3 machines, I went back and forth from AMD and intel a few times in the 2000's and both were great back than. I was really disappointed and pissed at how bad my last to AMD CPU's were that I had no plans to go back to AMD. However, I remember before ryzen came out a lot of people were talking about it actually potentially bringing competition to Intel again. Than I remember a few years ago a coworker was telling me how great his new ryzen PC was and that they did actually make a come back. Than after seeing the success of the 5000 series over Intel, my faith in AMD was restored. I was in the process of selecting parts for my new PC over the past month and originally had a ryzen 5700x build. However, decided to go with Intel again, mostly due to 12th gen actually being pretty dang good as well. Plus I wanted the ability to upgrade potentially to 13th or DDR5 so 12th gen seemed like the way to go. Yet I was still somewhat tempted to go with ryzen due to the overall cost benefit and being out for a while making it easy to build with. The 5000 series has been out for almost 2 years and still holds up which is impressive. Wish I could hop on the AM5 gen but im impatient and don't know how the pricing is going to be with the MOBO and Ram. I've always rooted for AMD since they've always felt like the underdog, so im really glad to see them doing so damn well.

Love AMD been a fan for a long long time in my mind AMD has always been ahead of intel. Used to be a Cyrex fan untill it went away I always like the underdog. Going to wait for the 7800X3D. Thanks for the rundown.

Didn't AMD JUST increase their IPC 1 or 2 years ago by like 19%? My God. They are really on top with their CPU stuff. I cannot wait to adopt the 7000 series.

I'm impressed with what AMD is doing on the x86 and also what Apple is doing with their ARM chips!

I am looking forward, I have been on a wait and see mentality for a while, AMD is just one reason and so far I am impressed. The other was to see how well Valves Proton would perform and I was waiting for my Steam deck to use it as a testing platform before making the plunge to Linux, and again I have been impressed. With the way Microsoft has been with Windows as of late, especially Win 11, have been looking at changing OS, honestly I think we are at the point to see a massive shift in the PC gaming market, AMD has long been a good supporter to the Linux community GPU support wise, far better than Nvidia where Linux isn't even a 2nd or 3rd thought. If Microsoft\Nvidia\Intel is going to be dethroned as the bigwigs of PC gaming, I think all the pieces are coming together to make it happen.

Not since I was younger pulling apart 386s and learning what it was to be a PC enthusiasts have I been sooooooo excited about the healthy state of the industry and level of engineering and leaps of performance each generation and the competition that's now driving it. And as always Jay you are apart of all of that. Keep that spark alive in others and look forward to the next video 🤓

Yeah, my first buld was a 486 and a few years later we had Celerons and Cyrix and Amd, I was sooooo hyped during that tume. But then things kind of slowed down. AMDs 1000 series brought the magic back for me, and AMD just kept delivering. This 7000 series is Looking SO DAMN GOOD!. My only issue is that Im not a 1st gen adopter, and theres plenty of new tech AMD has with the 7000 series. My biggest issue is the motherboard makers, I really feel like they are gonna drop the ball for AMD and blame will shift back and forth. I hope not.

My first build was a Sinclair ZX81! I am getting OLD! 😕

@@arthurmann578 I know the feeling. My first PC build was as 386 DX40. Where has all the time gone. These new Ryzen cpu's look amazing.

@@arthurmann578 My first PC was an IBM 5150 (pretty sure, not 100% on the model number). Ran DOS. I'm only 36, but my dad gave it to me as a gift. It was somewhat obsolete at the time I received it, but I had many lovely times playing Maniac Mansion, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Police Quest, etc.

@@arthurmann578 My first was a 1MHZ 6502 with 48k ram and 100k floppy in an Apple 2. Added a few extras and paid over $2000 US (over $7,700 today) in 1979, only hobby were the price has gone down.

Given the huge success of the r7 7800x 3D & that the AMD reps said the 3D will return I'm willing to bet that the 7800x will be a 3D design and/or zne4/zen5 build. with That will be an insane processor. I'd even dare say it'll be 5.5ghz/4.5ghz ~60 to 80MB or more depending on the real-estate and ~ 105w TDP given the specs from prev gen and leaks. Lets see if that guess ages as well as JTC teh tips???

AMD improving is definitely exciting. If nothing else, we need them to put pressure on Intel both to progress and to keep pricing in check. However, I reserve my opinion on how good Zen4 actually is until I see the instruction latency/throughput tables and what the cache and memory latencies are like.

5nm - insane! I remember when they theorized they couldn't go any smaller about 10 years ago or so because they had too much crosstalk. Also, actual gains in Ghz too! Super impressive.

the reason why China want Taiwan. TSMC is world leader in nm chips.

@@Doflaminguard Consider who makes machine tools for TSMC. It will not be profitable for everyone, since without modern machine tools, it is impossible to keep such processes. Therefore, as long as they have their choice, they can trade with other countries.

Happy with my 12900k I use in my work machine ATM but I can definitely see a future upgrade where I'd grab a 7000 series AMD chip on an AM5 board. Super excited about RDNA3 also!

I'm really looking forward to the 7000 3dv cache ones. Please let it be a big one too, my compile times could use a bit more speed. Something like a 7950x3D would be a dream!

YES PLEASE !! More Speed ! Did some 1 say 6 Gig ? 😎

Obviously we have to wait and see what intel comes out with but I'm really glad AMD has decided to not turn the future of CPU's into miniature volcanos that require an entire hydro dam to power.

But can we cool the cpu with the same hydro dam we're using to power it

if you are pushing high PC's and not liquid cooling, you are doing it wrong. What is the point in buying a case and everything else to look cool and yet not afford a liquid cooler? My room isn't hot nor cold. Its perfect with 2 customs running with 3080's and 10900k's.

@@jkutnink87 who asked?

@@jkutnink87 Waste of money and likely to damage components

@@jkutnink87 ​ your components produce the same amount of power & heat no matter what source of cooling you have. Water cooling just pulls the heat out of those components more efficiently, which can actually heat your room up slightly more since that’s where the heat is going.

It's good to see AMD on top again. I've been using AMD off and on since the original Athlon. The last time I remember AMD being in this position was nearly 20 years ago with AMD64. After years of missteps, seeing the evolution of Zen has made me excited again. I've always liked the longevity AMD gets out of their sockets and the upgrade-focused design. Intel's new socket every year really limited upgradability. Having said all that, the last time AMD did this, it woke the sleeping giant and Intel developed the Core 2 Duo and took back the top spot with a renewed focus on efficiency and performance power watt. I expect they'll strike back in similar fashion, but in the meantime, I hope AMD enjoys this position.

I Started out learning on OLD 400MHz $#!T long ago,to socket 7,Athlon,right up to RYZEN. LOVED then ALL !! Enjoyed building every one of them,except the 400 MHz.Didn't do that one. I hope AMD stays the leader in innovation across the board,been a long time coming. Just wish they would put more $#!T in the pants when it comes to Ray-Tracing. It just needs MORE cores it that department. The Radeon RX 6950 XT is a GREAT card,it just needs MORE RAY CORES !! DAMIT !!

I must say for the most part I have been partial to team Intel. This news of speed and lower power usage compared to current Intel is wonderful. I imagine 13th gen still might not be able to keep up with AMD this coming round. I would be more than happy to go with an AMD build on my next one. Let's see what the next 6 months bring ;)

unlike intel amd has mother board longevity

the 13900K is beating the 7950X in leaked test. Granted, it's drawing 350W, but still out performing it.

@@Vyruis well yeah also while heating your home..pair that with a 350w 3080 lol not worth the cost to run...i mean if you throw enough power into something....

@@Vyruis be like say one man can run faster than the other while on drugs

Great video Jay :) Nice stuff upcoming even so I'm still happy with my 590)X, as these new CPU's go the 7900X woulld be my choice, I just love the 12 core CPU's they offer better gaming tn the 16 core units and offer better workstation performance than the 8core X3D units they are basically the sweet spot in that sense. But having a good 12 core ZEN 3 CPU now I may wait until ZEN5 or ZEN6, as the upgrade will just be more worth it.

I am most excited for the future SOC stuff too. Think of a new Switch or Steam Deck with a ton more power and efficiency

I had been looking at switching back to AMD after years of running Intel with my first PC in about 7 years. For what I wanted I really couldn't do it cheaper at the time of purchase. That said I wish I knew these new chipsets were launching I might have waited. I was just scared about GPU prices they dropped so close to OG retail I just was scared if I waited I would miss my chance. I ended up going with the i5 12600k with the 3080 12gb model. Compared to my i5 6600k and 2060S It was like jumping from a YUGO to a LAMBO so I can't complain. I also moved up to 1440P from 1080P which is a huge jump for me personally.

I've very excited to see how well the mobile parts do when they're released next year. That power efficiency should work wonders.

I know right glad I'm not starting school still next year lol. might be getting amd laptop if they keep this up for sure

I'm excited to see AMD's mobile processors already revolutionizing the handheld PC gaming market with devices like the Steam Deck. As they get more powerful while still sipping power I think that market will explode.

I was amazed with the 4000/5000 series. Mobile processor was never AMD’s strong suit, yet here we are.

you're already seeing it with Apple's M1 chips. It's only going to get better

@@keokio7 Apple's new CPUs are interesting but their proprietary nature ensures that they must likely won't be used for mainstream handheld gaming. They'll stay relegated to Apple's niche market of creative professionals. I definitely don't see them being used for PC gaming systems. I'm not convinced that ARM based CPUs are the future either. RISC-V is more likely to take that position imo.

Welp, finally a reason to go over to Ryzen, I was an early 1000 series adopter and it was a headache with driver issues and instability. I've stuck to Intel since, I'm on a 11900k and I'm gonna go to whatever the highest end 7000 series is, well within reason. This is awesome

i love this competition between AMD and Intel and i gotta say i hope Intel comes out with something to beat AMD just to push AMD and the technology further. No white flags. with that said my next build is going to have AMD. I budget for parts and not the build and its hard to pass up AMD right now.

I was on the Intel train for about 15 years now and I was always happy with it. What AMD now pulls out of the hat is amazing and I am considering to by an AMD setup next time. But with the graphics card I still would go for Nvidia

Yeah im still not convinced. AMD is destroying intel in the budget GPU market. But they're so out of touch with budget CPU's. 7600x seems like a ripoff and I have a feeling an i5 13400 or 13600k is going to demolish the R5.

@American Legend yea with copetition now we will get more inovation since now there is a fire to have them innovate now.

@@yeetus59 It is simply not possible. Intel's foundries are years behind TSMC (supported by hundreds of articles on this topic). Raptor Lake with its Monolithic Die is going to run hot and unstable even on budget cpu's at a level we have never seen. This is what happens when you don't innovate or take risks. It will be 5-10 years on AMD dominance before the tables turn and maybe AMD rest on their laurels.

I am excited to see the progress with and but I am also slightly aggravated that they promise 4 slot 6200 ram and their boards can only support 2 at launch I wish they would have waited to launch until they stabilized this issue and meet their advertised support for the new gen ram

So excited, looking forward to upgrade my AM4 to 5950x and preparing for this new gen for a main pc, not expecting their specs being totally accurate but damn that AM5 looks greatd

So, I've been back on a PC building kick since about Zen 2 launch and every time AMD knocks it out of the park, I'm kicking myself for not waiting. The constant progress and push they've been laying down since Zen 1 has been staggering. Full disclosure; my first PC build was a AMD Athlon (Clawhammer, I think?) and it went for nearly 10 years of overclocking and bad case design before it croaked. I stayed with AMD as I couldn't afford Intel in the early 2010s. I'm not a AMD fan boy, as I have used and owed multiple Intel systems - But it seems like every time I come back to the PC building fold - AMD is there with exactly what I need at the exact right time. RDNA1 was pretty rough though.

literally agree 100%. First build was also an athlon x4 845. Eventually ended up with intel for a bit bc it was a prebuilt. Then when i went to build another pc Ryzen had just came out and the price/performance was just unmatched. Not an amd fanboy either. I think Intel has the best ultimate performance and AMD has better efficiency all around. But for some reason when it comes to building a PC personally i feel like i wanna go with ryzen, they always have what i need at a better price in my opinion.

Entirely agreed. I’ve been with AMD since 2007, upgrading from an Intel Pentium 3. I upgrade to an AMD Phenom II X4 965, than in 2014, to an AMD FX-8350. Every upgrade, consisted in an immense performance leap for me, while not breaking the bank. I managed to save money and in November 2020 I basically built a new PC around a 5800X. My mind was blown yet again by the incredible performance of the new CPU and the new rig. So, if AMD continue on the same track, 3-4-5 years from now, depending on the workflow, I’ll build a new system, yet again, around an AMD cpu. The old FX-8350, is still kicking, doing it’s job, in the old PC, which I repurposed to an HTPC and gave it to my parents. It suits their needs 100%. So yeah, for me too, AMD, was there, exactly when I needed them to be, with what I needed, without the need to overspend, in regards to my financial possibilities at the given time, without having to make any sort of compromise . And no, I am not an AMD fanboy or a fanboy of any sorts. As a computer/laptop technician I have no favourites, I have to accomodate to my clients needs. But for me, AMD, in regards to CPU’s has been my daily driver for over 15 years. And I am not disappointed at all. To me it was and still is, the perfect balance, between price and performance and it entirely suits my needs.

My first build was the Athon 1ghz Thunderhawk. Yes, I'm old as dirt.

1st build was an Athlon X2

My first (and only, so far) AMD build was Phenom II X6 1055T back in 2011 because I wanted the cores for video encoding. Then an i7-4790K in 2016 because of the great single-threading performance for emulators. Windows 10 might run out of update support in June 2023, might as well go with AMD again when they get any driver/stability issues sorted out.

I've been buying AMD processors for years. In fact I think the last Intel I bought was the 386dx lol AMD has always been better in price/performance in my mind. The Ryzen 9 3900X I bought most recently has been amazing!

I'm not a gamer but any means, but don't what AMD has done here makes me happy because Intel really needs competition. I'm also planning on building a desktop in early-mid 2023, and I am still trying to decide if I want to go AM4 or AM5. The fact that AMD is saying there's still future in AM4 does give me something to consider. Thanks for the video!

I built my current 5950x system in November of 2020 - and I'd waited six years to upgrade. I've already been prepping my wife that I feel a new build coming on this end of year... So yes Jay, I'm excited indeed for Zen 4.

I'll be really interested to see how well MSFS does on Zen 4, with these big single core improvements.

That's all I want to know. :)

I've built a few computers, and always just go straight to Intel/Nvidia. Maybe my next computer should be all AMD. I'm also liking the behind the scene stuff of AMD, Taiwanese CEO and going with Taiwan's TSMC for semiconductors... as a Taiwanese, I feel compelled to support this.

Damn it. If I didn't have that Asus Crosshair hero VIII motherboard still in the box, is definitely go for the that 7950X. 5.7ghz is monstrous, and the fact that it's doing 4.5Ghz all core STRAIGHT OUT THE GATE is already scary. And keeping it energy efficient is amazing too

Jay actually misread the slide. That's 4.5GHZ _base clock_ on the 7950x. GN Steve and Wendel said they saw the 7950x doing 5.1GHZ all core stock at a demo after the announcement.

@@mitlanderson 5.1ghz stock? Yikes

@@mitlanderson I think with a small oc on it, it may be at 6gHz. Then with ln2 maybe 7ghz?

@@KRGraphicsCG 5.1 is special now?

@@TheBURBAN111 for the kind of work I do, 5.1ghz stock is sweet

I'm really hoping RDNA3 does what they think it's going to. Because we just might see some huge improvements over the next couple of years

I've always had a preference toward intel, just found it more reliable, but they have become complacent with their products. The new AMD CPUs do look amazing so we will see if this wakes up intel

My last few gaming CPUs have been Inel and I’ve been exceedingly pleased with their performance, but like so many am not happy with the efficiency-out-the-window track Intel & Nvidia are on. If AMD is providing competitive performance for gaming at a lower TDP, I’m all aboard.

I just bought an Nvidia RTX card to add to my desktop rig, but haven't installed yet. I have a Ryzen 5600G and it has held its own. I was on a tech support screen sharing session the other day and the tech support agent said I had fast machine after watching me re-install a patch. I am ready to make the leap to 7000 series when available with a nice compatible motherboard and see what shakes up with the RDNA graphics too. Thanks for filling us in Jay.....I just bought more shares of AMD too!

I think Intel is gonna have to get their manufacturing back on track or switch to TSMC if they want to keep up. It's very hard to keep pace if you are 1-2 generations behind on manufacturing processes and TSMC seems to be doing quite a bit better there at the moment.

Gone are the days where Intel dominated the game for like, forever. The rise of Ryzen is like an uppercut to Intel's jaw.

They been saying that since 2005

@American Legend idk man, raptor lake seems interesting, but the power consumption has me concerned. Gamers planning to buy Nvidia's 4000 series cards might need to get a new power supplies, and depending on the power budget their working with, the build might not feasibly allow enough wattage to feed the Intel chips. But this is interesting let's wait and see what happens this Fall.

Intel never dominated forever..939 socket, amd San Diego, opterons, were killing pentium 4s

I'm just glad to see good completion for Intel to have to beat cause let's face it. when there's more competition, wanting to be the best product and be called the top dog of your industry, the biggest winners in that competition are the consumers. The consumers are the ones getting the better and larger group products to make the choice with. 😀 CONGRATS AMD THATS A HELL OF A CPU SERIES AT DROP... KUDOS

Dont get too ahead of yourself kiddo. We're still waiting for 13th gen. I think pricing will be the deciding factor just the same as it was 12th gen vs 5000 series. Its strange that AMD is good at budget GPU's but terrible when it comes to budget CPU's. 7600x is a BIG yikes. I have no doubt a 13400F (or whatever the i5 will be called) will mop the floor with the 7600x with sales/performance

All looks good. Hope they don't go to crazy on prices. If they are sensible on cost, they will definitely be onto a winner.

This just makes me wish I could afford my build....ain't going to for the next 20 years though with how life is going. AMD keep up the good work! Thanks Jay for covering this like always!

try to save 200 bucks a month. Be there in no time

I like what I see. I have a 5900x so I will jump this and probably next generation, but it’s fun to see how AMD is able to evolve. Would be great if they could surpass nvidia now.

For me, I'll still continue to buy intel so long as it meets my needs simply because their consumer CPUs are all manufactured in US plants. I have heard that TSMC is working/planning on more plants in the US, so I'm hopefully that one day AMD will make at least some of their CPUs in the US.

Can't wait to see what Intel's numbers are. I'm happy that AMD has good stuff though because competition is always good.

This video made me extremely excited for AMD's 7000 series! One of the things that always bothered me about Intel's newer processors was the high increase in power and heat, what good is insane performance if it costs you a fortune to power and cool?

Excited ? Why ? Do 5 more fps in 4K can justify a CPU at 600$ + X670 mb (around 400 to 500$) ? 1000$ (without the DDR5) just for 5 more fps ? Hmmmmm ? …. I try to find a reason to change my 9900k but for now, Intel and AMD don’t make me want to change my current rig.

i hear you but watch any 5900x vs 12700/12900k comparison video. a lot less heat and wattage from the current intel cpus vs the amd. The 5900x runs extremely hot too. Their will most likely always be leap frogging between both brands with CPU releases that edge out over the other. So, the new Intel CPUs are coming out shortly after and will probably beat the AMD, do that leap frogging cycle. The real kicker is AMD has been really kicking some ass the last 5+ years and is no longer the "compromise" and a lot of it has to do with the CEO (of course) but another is getting the Massive contracts to make millions of GPUs for Sony/Microsofts Next Gen consoles. On top of all that, so many PC gamers are switching to their great Price to Performance CPUs, GPUs, and Hardware. That brings in a shit ton of profits for AMD, which in turn can allows AMD to allocate way more resources into research and development for future products and we are definitely seeing the effects of that.

And a fortune to build too … CPU + X670 motherboard for around 1000€ without the ram … Actually, resellers are already listing AM5 motherboards and the price is … well … Around 500€ to 600€ for a basic x670 mobo.

@@spleenpedersen5039 Well unfortunately not everyone has the money right now for the current top of the line parts. In a few years the older parts will be hella expensive and the price will have hopefully dropped on the new generation that's in the video.

@@spleenpedersen5039 a cpu’s life cycle will always be longer than a gpu, obv won’t be interested if you already have something nice and you only game on it.

AM5 is exciting, especially for people who want best performance no matter what, but for normal users the DDR5 and MOBA prices are too much. Anyway i just upgraded to 5600x and im really happy with it.

Zen 4 looks like 🔥🔥🔥 ☺️ I probably won't be upgrading anytime soon or at all this next generation, as I have a 5800x, a d I just game for the most part on my PC, but MAN this tech is awesome!! Cannot wait to see how these perform in the real world! Putting the guns to Intel again! I'm also stoked to see how raptor lake stacks up, although I'm disappointed that raptor lake is only adding more e-cores to the processor instead of expanding p-cores. I'll be interested to.see the architecture change though on the p-cores and how it performs. It's a good time to be a PC enthusiast!

I'm super excited for AM5 and the 7000 series. I'm an old AMD fanboy that was about to build an Intel system back when Ryzen 2000 series was launching and I researched it and watched a few videos. Now I'm blown away every new release of the Ryzen series. NOW, the fact I could pick up a mid level CPU and it perform a little better than Intel's Top CPU? I feel ashamed to have doubted AMD back a couple years ago.

What a great time to be alive! We’re going to see some incredible advancements in the next 10-20 years just due to the competition alone! I don’t have a dog in the fight because I just get whatever function meets the need, but it’s going to be exciting! Also, don’t knock on Intel just yet, they may let AMD take the crown temporarily, but we need to keep in mind that they’re building their own in-house fab center; so they may surprise us in the next 10 years. Exciting! Also, keep in mind that Samsung has been quietly stepping into the PC/mobile PC market, and with more and more ARM support for OSs, other chip makers will be coming up

I am excited about the new technologies but it's moving so fast with actually PCI-E 6.0 already near completing development, AMD is mentioning 4nm CPUs already yet they just released this 5nm. The power consumption and heat management for the new GPU releases are also questionable if it's worth it or wait for improved development. ARM64 is making massive steps in the CPU field to be honest I'll stick to my 2017 hardware till the dust settles and there is a clear solution with no compromises. 😅

It's really nice to still see a push for performance with power efficiency, I had the feeling that we were at the point where they wouldn't even try efficiency anymore and just push the power consumption and leave it to the power supply and cooling manufacturers (and our electric bill) to deal with it.

I wish intel would do the same lol. Now that I'm upgrade my mobo and cpu I may go ryzen. I have a 10700k which i love, but 11th gen sucked, and 12th gen was just too hot for someone like me who prefers air cooling

@@dudeanderson2401 I think you have an error in your comment. Intel would do the same thing. They just haven't been able to. Recently AMD has the better tech and Intel has been competing via brute force. Hopefully now that they seem to be getting their development process back on track they can change that.

With the kwh price here in Southern Sweden, €0.6 at the highest this summer. It's not economical to run a 200W+ tdp cpu.

@@Varangian_af_Scaniae If cost is what matters, then performance per watt is what is relevant not the maximum power draw. Of course if you don't need what this CPU can do at its power limit you also don't need this CPU and are probably better off looking down the product stack.

@@88porpoise AMD is thinking a bit about the power consumption, which is great in this day and age. Our politicians are push green energy to insanity and the energy cost in Northern Europe is and will be high for the foreseeable future. Both Intel and Nvidia seems like they don't care and if I have to choose between paying €20 or €50 per month per computer to run 24/7, I will choose AMD.

The 12900K is way Intel trying to stuff way to many cores and getting this super host beast. I found the 12600K to be the best of the group for everything that isn't video encoding. Enough cores to handle everything we need done with plenty of TDP headroom for clock rates when those are needed and at a very reasonable price.

I've been an Intel fanboy forever and never considered AMD! (I was also a vendor to Intel through the 90's at their production facilities so I had built-in loyalty for that too.) But that las couple generations from them had me a little disappointed compared to all the advancements in AMD; thus I've been in a waiting pattern on what I was going to replace my I7-9700K system with. Looks like this 7000 series is going to be on my buy list sometime next year! Intel needs to "bite-the-retooling-bullet" and get with the program of "Somewhat" keeping the Moore's-Law Gods happy, LOL! Competition is great isn't it!

Im glad im on 5900x atm, waiting for Intel's response to this and what AMD will bring after 7k series is what im looking at. Allthou i kinda wonder what kind of Nuclear reactor and in the same time what kind of a freezer i need to put the future pc hooked up to to be able to handle those power requirments and heat generation :D

I see nobody mentioning the 7600x has way higher more cache/core ratio than the rest of the lineup,. more than a 20%. So, for applications cache sensitive (lots) but that don't need a lot of cores, it could be something to consider.

I am very excited. This will also push Intel/Nvidia to innovate again! Amazing

I'm an Intel guy, loving my 12800hx, but this is the stuff I love to see. This is what spurns improvements across the industry. We want companies to be competing, not the consumer.

From a team red mate here. You have my respect comrade. We shall stand side by side against tech monopolies

I'm a who ever has the best performance for my needs guy.

@@Tylerdakoh What is this Braveheart?

@@MobileDecay lmao I was thinking LOTR, “never thought I’d die fighting beside an AMD fanboy” “what about a friend?” “Aye”

Im looking forward to everyones test results when you guy get them in your hands ! :) loving my 5900x it does 5.2 single for me out of the box with my hero dark board :)

I have a 3960x and really want to stick with HEDT but the power lift makes me want to upgrade to a 7950x. I am waiting to see RTX 40x0 and Radeon RX 7000 series performance and I might be building a pure amd system for the first time in two decades which is boggling.

I'll probably regret picking up my 6900 XT recently, but such is life. That said, the old 2700X still needs an upgrade so very excited for this!

While I think AMD did push the boundary of what's possible with x86 with their new design I'm not excited for these parts because they're going to be far too expensive at first. The new platform features and DDR5 are really nice for all those that need them, but I'd rather see the bottom end get a significant bump in perf/price below the $300+platform cost market. It's gonna take at least another year and pressure from Intel for AMD to release their shiny new toys into price regions that aren't focused at enthusiasts and border-enthusiasts like it happened with the ADL release.

Oh, it is great to see improvements. Perhaps "not excited" isn't the right word - by I just bought a 5800X3D a few months ago that is performing really well. I don't see me upgrading from 5800X3D & 3090 for a least 2-3 more years.

I remember in electronics class I had a guy talking about how 1Ghz CPUs were going to be a stretch for the silicone. Obviously a long time ago but fun to see how things just keep advancing,

AMD smashed that one out too back in the day.

think in my school days 5 GHz was the limit, now im looking forward to those 40GHz CPUs

@@gregkarch4673 lol

@@gregkarch4673 LOL!!! 😂😂👍👍

Yeah, i still remember my first pc's, an AMD x2 and a Pentium III (I think the Pentium being 600mhz, and the AMD was 1200(?). I thought THOSE were fast (Was at the time, but still). Fun times.

Cant wait to see how they stack up once released!

I'm really anxious to see review sites get their hands on 7000-series CPUs and get the results of their putting the CPUs and motherboards through testing. I would really like to see AMD totally trounce Intel. Maybe a good kick in the backside and blow to their reputation will force them to start innovating again. It truly is a wonderful time to be a computer enthusiast!

AMD is looking real good. I'd have never consider AMD but now I am. I'm concern about world events where AMD is from. But unless Intel comes up with something "soon" to go toe to toe with AMD. My next build is going to be AMD despite my concerns about world events.

I have been a AMD fan for years I was getting ready to build a intel machine until I saw what AMD was bringing. Even intel fans should be happy as AMD being back in the game will force intel to strive harder and maybe bring in better pricing for consumers.

I am an admitted AMD fanboy (not of the company, of the tech). That said, I am very excited to see what Intel does in response. Even 5 years+ later, they are struggling to catch up from their complacency, but they ARE moving forward. This kind of innovation is paramount, and I'm so happy to see it full throttle again.

I call this the Pentaverate of Bugs: 1)New CPU architecture 2)New DRAM standard 3)New Chipset 4)New PCIe standard 5)Possibly new GPU (Ada/RDNA3) Good luck early adopters, you're going to need it. AMD or Intel.

@@Mr.Morden legitimately, I have a 12700K and a Z690 ASUS strix mobo, and while it was basically unusable for the first four months (for me) ASUS did release a BIOS update that essentially fixed ALL the DDR5 XMP stability issues. At this time, the new generation LGA1700 CPUs are great, and they are unbelievably fast compared to Zen3. I have both. Actually, I didn’t notice much difference Zen2 to Zen3, even though it supposedly was a big improvement. But Zen3 5900X to Intel 12700K was legitimately the biggest jump in general PC performance I’ve experienced yet. If AMD delivers in the way Jay seems to think they will, I dunno man, I find it hard to believe a 7600X is gonna beat a 12900K and believe it or not I’m actually more an AMD fan than Intel. I just don’t see how it can be, but maybe it is. If so, pc enthusiasts are in for a real treat with these new AMD processors and GPUs. If not, oh well, still excited for the new Radeon GPUs.

@@whaaaat_scoobs 7600x will probably out perform the 12900k in gaming and only with sam enabled.

@@Mr.Morden As a Linux user that is desperately needing to switch CPUs this may be one of my major fears but MS pluton has the potential to end the entirety of me booting into my distro. - Aiden

@@partnersincraft1889 I don't much about Pluton. They worked through the problems with TPM and Microsoft is very entangled with Linux now. I'd expect it to show up in the Linux kernel when they reach a release. It's just too bad nearly all distros are horrible at keeping up with new kernels.

These CPUs are fabulous! But we still need to see about the real world price of the individual motherboards and DDR5 kits that you actually want to purchase for a new build. That's what's going to make or break this generation. Many of the AMD fans such as myself, that *can* run out and grab the latest and greatest platform, probably already have a decent AM4 system. If you do and you're running a 20 or 30 series chip, you're probably thinking really hard about picking up a 5900X or even 5950x for the new, discounted price and give DDR5 another year or two to really mature. This is my situation anyway. I have a 3900X already, so I might do nothing at all.

This video was released in perfect timing. Literally getting ready to replace a potato. I have two top options for buying (becuase building doesn't give the cost savings it used to). I'm literally looking at two PCs at almost the same price. The only difference is the processor. One's the AMD and the other is the Intel. I was literally getting ready to buy the Intel version after years of AMD letting the gaming community down after Intel released it's first dual core. (It's weird to me to see AMD returning to the top. AMD blew Intel out of the water in terms of gaming. It sucked for streaming videos for some reason but gaming... Nothing beat the first AMD dual core and all the processors before that smoked Intel. All I bought was AMD and then Intel released their dual core and the benchmarks showed it was superior to AMD' quad core. I was loyal to AMD and I even made the mistake of buying the phenom black 8 core. It sucked. The worst combo I had was when someone convinced me to switch the Radeon cards becuase the company had been purchased by AMD. My Dragon Age Inquisition looked awful and all the hair looked like it was made of plastic. I finally ditched AMD and just paid the higher cost for Intel and swore I'd never go back to AMD for ditching gamers in favor of server farms processors. Glad to see they're coming back.

The current MSRP and specs look great, but the important question as to whether they actually sell for that much remains. During the great chip shortage of 2021 Ryzen CPUs were selling for inflated prices due to the inability of AMD to meet demand, making intel the value-per-dollar champ at the time.

Honestly the efficiency part is what I'm most excited about, for desktops but more specifically for laptops, Desktop TDP was quickly getting out of control. GPUs need to work on some efficiency as well.