Activision Blizzard Is a Hilariously Bad Company | Asmongold Reacts to The Act Man

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    Asmongold Reacts to "Activision Blizzard Is a Hilariously Bad Company" by The Act Man, shedding light on the infamous "diversity tool", the breast milk incident, Diablo Immortal lies and more..
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The Act Man
The Act Man

I live vicariously through your reactions to my videos sometimes. I gotta admit lmao. Thanks for the shoutout man, very happy you enjoyed the video!

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Zyrodil
Zyrodil

You did a good job, man.

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Darkus Nights
Darkus Nights

Act Man, I think you should look at Bungie and its Monitization methods, If ow2 is getting rid of loot boxes I think theyll follow Bungies methods

Vor 15 Tage
Glenn Anderson
Glenn Anderson

The act man? More like the fact man

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FlarkeFiasco
FlarkeFiasco

With Asmon reacting to them, at least SOMEONE gets to make money off of Act Man's videos :/

Vor 26 Tage
Mista Cassla
Mista Cassla

Great vid 👑

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Kulovi CZ
Kulovi CZ

Its easy to bash Blizzard since every time they do something in "good intention", they do it in the most blatant, unnatural and badly timed way. They are just so out of touch.

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Good Lookin' Out Homie
Good Lookin' Out Homie

They do nothing with "Good intention", unless by that you mean exploiting the absolute arses off their player base at every possible opportunity and awkwardly virtue signalling in the most cynical and insincere fashion.

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Bastards & Co.
Bastards & Co.

Bro, Blizzard is still running on windows explorer with their 'good intentions'

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Jessica Fox
Jessica Fox

Except their good intentions are based on the wrong things, which just makes everything pointless.

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Alex Howard
Alex Howard

It's like that kid in school that just keeps getting in trouble no matter what.

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aLilBabyOtter
aLilBabyOtter

The "diversity space tool" is like when you're in college and you have to do a project, and your teacher assigns all these criteria like it has to have X amount of images and Y amount of dialogue etc. So you do the project, you get an A on it because you met all the criteria, but nobody was actually entertained by your project because you spent so much time trying to make sure you met all the requirements rather than making something entertaining. And here, you can see that playing out IRL where people talk about how it was used for CoD Vanguard, meanwhile hardly anyone actually liked CoD Vanguard.

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Guciom
Guciom

@Virtue of Absolution Social media is basically a social credit system in the west.

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Nealon Miller
Nealon Miller

Ah, yes, when Blizzard was making a CoD game.

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NuNull
NuNull

"Here's an ancient format that used to work, it will never fail because nothing changes."

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wusscake
wusscake

I once asked someone 14 years ago, back when I first played WoW on a private server, why he would play a female character. He told me "If I'm going to look at a video game character all day, it may as well be a beautiful lady." That was the best argument I've ever heard.

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Victis Omega
Victis Omega

@Edward Richard I think you forgot the sarcasm tag… at least I hope you did.

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Friend Dal
Friend Dal

That's literally the answer I give to people who ask me that question XD

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Edward Richard
Edward Richard

​@chrispfankuch humans can't be blue.

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Edward Richard
Edward Richard

that's a stupid argument. if he's staring at his character all day wtf is he doing? obviously not playing the game.

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CatOfTheCanals
CatOfTheCanals

I admire Blizzard's ability to piss off every demographic simultaneously. Kind of impressive

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Cristian Turbian
Cristian Turbian

If people don't want their character to resemble them in some way, then all this "representation" issue shouldn't exist in the first place.

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sadqqw wqeq
sadqqw wqeq

thats the whole point its artificially created the need for every race ,. if they would just make a purple dude and purple chick the game would be exactly as fun ,. its the woke culture that demands all sorts of tribalism and thats what asmond ignores ( sorta ) u can make a dude a girl and an orc and a ghost < i would say the ratio would be the most is the ''strongest'' character because MOST ppl dont ACTUALLY care about representation so asmond's arguement that most ppl choose there own race isnt true

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Philip Pleiss
Philip Pleiss

"How can so many people be so stupid" Pareto's principle: 80% of the people making those remarks are 20% of the population. From what I have seen, there are 3 general categories. - People who want to self-insert - People who want their avatar to resemble an idealized version of themself - People who want to try something completely different

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Ian Kimmitt
Ian Kimmitt

@B A N A N A you're making the assumption people can't self insert as non human characters. Not to nitpick I have no horses in this fight but he does address that in the video.

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B A N A N A
B A N A N A

@Ian Kimmitt if he was in the minority then why arent self inserts dominating the race distribution in game? Asmon is projecting his personal views onto others when all he has to do is a 360 in any common city and see most people wont be humans..

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Uwot Mate?
Uwot Mate?

@crusaderesper I think you're right. The idea that the majority of MMO players are choosing character appearances that match race or gender is ridiculous. Most races in WoW don't have anything close to analogous real world skin tones or other ethnic features. Looking at this from the other end so to speak, if you assume the statement that most people make their characters look like them is true, then most Horde players consider themselves to look like Blood Elves? And a lot of female ones at that. Not to mention Blood Elves only relatively recently got skin tone options for much other than variations of what would generally be called white. Then you look at the alliance side and (as of May 2020 at least) there's a close to even split between Humans and Night Elves for majority race. What real world race are the night elves meant to be synonomous with? I like that there are more options, options are always good, but I think the claim that most people playing fantasy MMO's are playing characters that look like them is just silly. A key part of why fantasy (not the genre specifically necessarily, but more broadly the concept) appeals in games is precisely because you can be something totally different to what you are in reality.

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Caius Nair
Caius Nair

Most racialized people aren't exactly concerned as we've long adapted to identifying with the white and black characters that most games only have. This concept of using characters as self-inserts is very new for us.

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Ian Kimmitt
Ian Kimmitt

@faznan badri sounds like every comment section argument I've seen lol. I mean I can't relate because I care very little about the things Asmongold says. So your welcome to keep venting, but understand I share none of your emotional response.

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iiTz Dementia
iiTz Dementia

For all my fellow pandas out there, without MoP, I would’ve never felt included into the game. Thank you blizzard for the inclusivity.

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Good Lookin' Out Homie
Good Lookin' Out Homie

Yeah whatever Panda boy. Until we Murlocs get representation in Wow y'all can cry me a river.

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Frozenanime skelett
Frozenanime skelett

Asmon: Let me debate this Also Asmon: "Silences everyone that disagrees with me and call them morons"

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German Furman
German Furman

@Dog Literally every ttrpg podcast or stream online is my personal evidence, that alongside myself and everyone I've ever known when we play rpgs. Even grounded "Human-only-race" type ttrpgs have this effect called "Role-playing" where you, ya'know, play a role and not as yourself.

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Dog
Dog

@German Furman biggest oversight, do you have any evidence to prove so? If given the opinion, people generally make their character the same race as themselves (human wise). People like to see characters similar to them, aka self insert. Were not talking about mmos like skyrim online.

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Dominick
Dominick

@ANON Clowns made you

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Victis Omega
Victis Omega

Yeah that wasn’t the greatest response from Asmon, he realized the moment he lost the debate and rather than laugh and go “yeah okay guys..” he goes into petulant child mode. Never let your opponent control your verbiage or your argument or you’re going to lose.

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wizard
wizard

Cope

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DogFood_
DogFood_

I hope act man can get his channel monetized again, although it is very unlikely. Lets goooo baby it happened

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P.E.R.F.E.C.T
P.E.R.F.E.C.T

Thank god this aged like milk

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DogFood_
DogFood_

@Red really???

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Red
Red

HE WAS REMONETIZED! THE MAN IS BACK!

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Nina
Nina

@KingGhidorahofDeath { Aka HydragonofDeath } then probably missed it

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KingGhidorahofDeath { Aka HydragonofDeath }
KingGhidorahofDeath { Aka HydragonofDeath }

@Nina He straight up says that only racist blacks would like black panther randomly during a conversation you can see in act mans video.

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Xu Daniel
Xu Daniel

Here’s a solid argument about the whole “race and character” debate if we are REALLY generalizing a lot of the nuances in this topic. In my humble opinion, I don’t think an overwhelming majority of players are creating their characters based on “themselves”. I do however, believe that an overwhelming amount of players create their characters based on how they’d like to be conceived in-game by other players, while providing themselves some level of relatability from their characters (so they don’t feel detached from their characters). Which in other words, instead of the “real themselves”, they are creating these characters on the “idealized themselves”. Now of course this is a broad assumption with no empirical back up, but so does Asmon’s personal opinion, so I think this could make for a good argument against it. My ACTUAL opinion on this topic is it is personal preference, there’s no way I believe that can statistically prove either point of view. So Asmon saying 80% are doing this, it might as well be because he is doing this, same as me saying it’s because of that, it’s confirmation bias. But as an audience, watching this debate starts with Asmon dealing with the trolls intelligently (like not starting a poll) and ends with him stating anybody disagreeing him is a moron is quite sad to be honest. Having confidence in your belief is good, but when said belief is lacking in foundation or based purely on personal experience, it can also be dangerous and misguided. There’s a thin line between confident and opinionated.

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Big Bay
Big Bay

@xkristiann You really just ran away from the conversation, that is pretty funny

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Renvi
Renvi

You said your opinion is a "good argument AGAINST (Asmons)" but it's literally supporting what Asmon is saying. He's saying that the vast majority of people are making their character look like a "part" of their IRL selves, that is, as you put it, "idealized selves." An idealized self IS your IRL self, but viewed in the best way possible (ie. buff, super strong, hot, etc.) And frankly, the vast majority of people aren't like that guy who got plastic surgery to look like that Korean guy from BTS, and are content with aspects of their race including their skin color or prominent features. But people will use their race (read: skin color and other identifying features about their race) to give a visual pinpoint of that character being their "IRL (idealized) self."

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xkristiann
xkristiann

@wellbi i ain't reading all that, but have a good one

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wellbi
wellbi

@xkristiannMaybe don’t engage in a discussion if you don’t want to hear from the other side. … The analysis just showed you that you didn’t need to introduce distortion of the community to render his points moot. His own “arguments” made it sound like a pile of nonsense. Have a good one.

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xkristiann
xkristiann

@wellbi good job ignoring everything I just said to give me an analysis that I didn't even ask for.

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ShadowForged Gamerz
ShadowForged Gamerz

You have been on a roll with good commentary [57:00] and 1:20:00 in AoC combat broadcast, that it's inspiring to see that "AsmonGroove" at 110% pushing the narrative. This was a very good watch! 😁👍

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Metalicz
Metalicz

The fact that you had to clarify and reclarify your game Race argument that many times means you made a shitty and vaguely defined argument to begin with. Continuously narrowing down your argument until you've defined it in a way that can only make you correct after many attempts does indeed make it "correct", but also comes across as very disingenuous, especially when you were touting the absolute correctness of this argument from the outset. I don't really care about the conclusion of the argument, but the way you presented it got on my nerves more than the subject matter itself lol

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BowieSensei
BowieSensei

I agree 100%

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joshua41175
joshua41175

Something I thought would always be interesting is if someone populated a COD game based on IRL census records. Like, build 100 models with accurate percentages and then just let the game ring spawn those models into the game as background characters. Your main cast can just be the dev team working on the game. I'd like to see a modern warfare with that and just see how accepted it is. Will it be mediocre? Will it have this uncanny valley effect? Will it be resident evil Africa where: oh no, zombies in Africa are all African. Imagine.

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Some Guy
Some Guy

The sad thing about the "diversity" tool and how disgusting it is, is that this is probably used in some kind of capacity in many large companies in the entertainment industry like games and movies/TV shows, and alot of people eat that shit up not realizing that those companies don't give a single flying f*ck about them, they are just numbers in their eyes, it's there just to use them.

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Lazzil
Lazzil

@[TF-U]Derpy69 You can invalidate both sides with that logic.

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[TF-U]Derpy69
[TF-U]Derpy69

@Lazzil 2,252 out of a potential couple of billion isn't something i would say tells you anything for such a topic nevermind the fact that surveys would only get you a idea not a definitive answer of everyone.

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Lazzil
Lazzil

@Logan EA surveyed 2,252 gamers about inclusive features and content: 45% said they were more likely to play, 48% were neutral, and 7% said they were less likely to play. The outrage over diversity is coming from a vocal minority.

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Logan
Logan

@Lazzil the market wants diversity? Lmfao. My man you couldn't be any more wrong. The "market" is the majority. The majority is sick and tired of shoehorned "diversity" Your take is cold af.

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General Sherman
General Sherman

@Dante Alright well Overwatch is *specifically* about an organization gathering people from all around the world and yet capital G Gamers are still upset anytime someone darker than mayonnaise is added

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My Name
My Name

I mean really just make a good game with a great story(how wow started), treat your employees like real people, have characters with SOME level of customizing and call it a day with plenty of post release support backed by the publics feedback. And dude that made the famous phones (immortal announce) remark needs to watch the clip on loop for 10 hours while having to think about what he decided to contribute to that day.

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Robert Harmon
Robert Harmon

I agree; when I pick my first character…I try to mimic my actual real life look.

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JescobarWR80
JescobarWR80

Same here man. I always create myself when I can. Most people I know do that too

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Farore
Farore

Sometimes Asmon sounds like a legit Blizzard Apologist. Sometimes his logic really isn't as bulletproof as he makes it out to sound.

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Farore
Farore

@Alex Perez yeah it's really not that based anymore. At some point something's gotta give. And what do you wanna do with your platform is the question

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Alex Perez
Alex Perez

I've noticed that at times he will take the side of the people who are doing the bad like " yeah I can understand how easy it is to do and nothing can be done about it"

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Free Market Collectibles
Free Market Collectibles

@Asmongold , just a thought, since Act Man is demonetized, perhaps you could donate the proceeds from reacting to his content to Act Man, not sure if its possible or if you can monetize reacting to demonetized content, but it would be a cool showing of solidarity to help him out when he can't profit from his own work

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Crash Zone
Crash Zone

I know that when I hang out with my friends, I am not gonna worry about representation of every group. I know that if I join the army, most likely not all groups are going to be represented in my unit. I know that when I fight an enemy, more than likely the group being killed is not going to represent all individuals. I know that when activision/blizzard make a game, they are going to over represent marginalized communities, because if they actually represented real demographics, most people wouldnt be represented.

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M K7001
M K7001

@Dante My issue with this whole conversation is that people act like "over representation" is inherently bad or something. If people don't care about "representation" then it shouldn't matter if they made an entire cast indian for "no reason." They have nothing to do with the story, or they're character, they just happen to be Indian, and gay, and they're non binary or some shit. You can't tell me people wouldn't get triggered, even if the game was good. Complaining about adding these kinds of characteristics implies there HAS to be a reason for a character to be that way, and that they don't need a reason to be a cis straight white dude. The truth is that there doesn't have to be a reason, and it doesn't harm anyone to add representation to more media. Literally the ONLY reason to complain is that you have some weird feelings about whichever characteristics they're focusing on. In reality these companies are being scummy and trying to bribe sales with diversity, that's true. The problem is that this basically has no real bearing on the game anyway. If a game is bad, it was always gonna be bad, it just happens companies have ways of selling crap. There's no difference between a game having CGI trailers, "Forced" diversity, preorder bonuses (like NMS), etc.. There's nothing inherently wrong with a company using those things, the issue is companies use these to hide their lack of good games.

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King of Rivia
King of Rivia

@Dante For me its about realism. Like the controversy with Women in Ww1 battlefield (or ww2 dont even remember which one). At the end of the day i really dont care but the game put so much effort on realism its just laughable that it breaks reality so much for nothing. i think the people bothered by it are overreacting, but lets be honest is there one person on this earth that actually enjoys the game more cause there are women now?

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Dante
Dante

EXACTLY. It's so dumb how everyone worries so much about "representation" in every little thing these days, even in entirely fictional universes. It also doesn't even reflect reality, most of the real world is NOT diverse, there are many countries like Japan that are 80+% nationals, with very few outsiders. Or, for example, if the game setting doesn't make sense to be diverse(Like maybe half of the world got destroyed or you're in a very isolated place like a small Island) then that's perfectly fine. I wouldn't EXPECT there to be a wide diversity of races/colors/etc if I'm playing a game set in a small town in Greenland or Alaska or something, or maybe a game set in an Eskimo village.

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Necromorph790
Necromorph790

When I make a character, honestly it depends on the mood. If it looks anything like me (it rarely does) then im feeling like being in that world I guess, but for some fuckin reason I just never make anything but different species or old humans. I cannot stand playing as a human if I can play as something "cooler" (cause humans suck), but I will be a wizened old fool who kicks ass lmao

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BowieSensei
BowieSensei

I always start with a character that an idealised version of myself. Usually my main and then for alts I do experimental themed characters of any race or gender.

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Sky Castrum
Sky Castrum

@Ilona It’s an annoying argument. I’m totally for more skin tones, weights, wrinkles, and whatnot. But that’s because I want to use all them. To me, it’d be healthier for people to get over a desire to play as themselves. It’s limiting your experience and placing an unhealthy connection on a representation that’s not you.

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Ilona
Ilona

He made it pretty clear he's not talking about games with mutants, lizard people and whatever else. Obviously people will go for the cool stuff there. But in games with only human characters, the vast majority of people do choose what they know. The able bodied white male gamer has no concept of not being represented in media, including gaming. So there's no concept of how actually impossible it is for some people to have characters that even vaguely look anything like them. If you can make a lizard person, why the hell can you not make a person in a wheelchair? Why no fat characters? Why no skin colour option?

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chrispfankuch
chrispfankuch

He was talking skin tone/color, just wasn't articulating it properly

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Jimmy
Jimmy

exactly. this guy who happens to be famous, has his head up to far up his head to realize not everyone thinks like he does.

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BloodyOne
BloodyOne

I think I've cracked the code, Blizzard needs a tool that quantifies diversity in characters because they DON'T have the passion nor compromise with delivering a good product/experience.

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Christopher Gleason
Christopher Gleason

For me and regarding characters, I tend to go with a character that I want to look at. Sometimes it's a gruff bounty hunter looking guy. Sometimes, it's an... attractive spy/assassin character. But yeah, I tend to play human in games where you can choose the race like in Skyrim or Neverwinter. But it's why I like games where there is actual custom characters rather than preset characters to play as. But that's just me.

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Hades Zero
Hades Zero

Blizzard the company that will try to educate you on how much of a biggot you are while at the same time in their workplace you need ass armour to feel protected.

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Good Lookin' Out Homie
Good Lookin' Out Homie

But remember, female ass armor only ever covers 10% as much of you as male ass armor does. It's the law in MMOs.

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Danial Yousaf
Danial Yousaf

@Hades Zero lol he was a great bad guy in his early career. Turns out his deadpan delivery style was just as much suited for comedy as it was for thrillers.

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Hades Zero
Hades Zero

@Danial Yousaf it's just sad he wasted most of his career playing in dramas and only turned to comedy until very late.

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Danial Yousaf
Danial Yousaf

@Hades Zero most of the stuff Leslie Nielsen has done is epic. Especially the naked gun and police story stuff.

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Hades Zero
Hades Zero

@Danial Yousaf that's what I had in mind. That shower scene with Leslie Nielsen was epic

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Jay
Jay

Love your reaction videos and Act man content is amazing. Great video

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Andromega
Andromega

Diversity in Overwatch is a great example, I was so hype for Sigma I couldn't believe they'd release a middle aged white man astrophysicist in this day and age.

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Maple Leaf
Maple Leaf

Imagine working 80 hour weeks in a small office working on a game for months to years and the only form of social interaction is Twitter you’d also think people actually judge games based on “diversity” more than playability

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Yellow Boat
Yellow Boat

If Asmon was right everybody would choose a human in WOW, also Asmon would need to play a skeleton to be "accurate" towards IRL.

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A Strong Dose
A Strong Dose

RIP Act Man channel. He clearly was fucked over by YouTube, and I hope he wins the lawsuit, because it will have HUGE implications that benefit the user instead of YouTube as a corporation.

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Australian Nationalist
Australian Nationalist

@Mr. Lewis What are you on about hashtag and taglines? are you some twitter nerd?

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Unknown GuyINDO
Unknown GuyINDO

@A Strong Dose I didn't miss it, it just that I stopped caring. FuturisticHub do the same thing like QuantumTV, and he actually dox & do a mass false copyright strike even go as far to physically threatened any mention of criticism. He ban-evading and now his FuturisticHub account is inactive & he make a new channel known as Wildcraft. Youtube system is broken.

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Владимир Федоров
Владимир Федоров

I hope Bungie wins first, so he could use the case as a precedent, as it's also about copyright system abuse.

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A Strong Dose
A Strong Dose

@Mr. Lewis I've personally never been a big fan of hashtags. Which hashtags did I use here that you disaprove of?

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Mick
Mick

@Farmertate Menacing sounds

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Jonathan Fountain
Jonathan Fountain

I notice that some reviewers say that when they're given the review copy that most of the monetization wasn't active in the game yet. I believe that's how gran tourismo 7 was and I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar with diablo immortal in some cases. Im not doubting that some reviews are bought as well. So that could be one factor of the dramatic user score/critic score differences.

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Ardyn Prentice
Ardyn Prentice

so lower the damage of tanks, make absorbs higher and have aoe or directional stuns so the dps can kill people.. then you dont needa worry about nerfing dps or balancing tank dps so they arnt OP. i mean if your gonna worry about making tanks fun to play because people wont play the game.. then put rules in place that make the game a linear experience thats not fun to play or as fun as the previous version then whats the point? i dont get it.

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Yugoxgc
Yugoxgc

Didn't expect Blizzard to potentially be at the forefront of a Breast Milk industry

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MadGod47
MadGod47

The amount of times Asmon defends the instances of "They said they removed the lootboxes!" is mind boggling to me. Like yeah, great you removed them. Why did they have to add them in the first place? This is like thanking someone for them having stopped stabbing you, and using that as a wrongdoing cleanser argument. No way hombre, fuck em.

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ben james
ben james

I'm glad to see that he is still able to get money from his channel through sponsors

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bob bob
bob bob

@jebbi My point still holds, you have to start out by making with works on YT. If you aren't popular already, Patreon will never be enough to support you.

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jebbi
jebbi

@bob bob I was talking about the youtube's situation in general. Like how uberdanger was sad because youtube demonitizes his videos. Either you make what you want or you make what is good for algorithm. Youtube's demonitization policy will keep getting more and more strict. At some point there will be no incentive to make what you like.

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jebbi
jebbi

@nick No, people can watch videos on youtube for free, those who wants to support can join the patreon. Youtube's ad revenue will be a bonus.

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nick
nick

@jebbi That makes people having to pay for videos that were free to begin with. That's complete shit.

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bob bob
bob bob

@jebbi You aren't going to be able to survive off of Patreon until you are actually popular. And by the time you are popular enough on YT to shift your primary source of income, it doesn't really matter. All of the content you create on YT is owned by them, you can't even distribute it as the original creator without their approval. He got demonetized for threatening YT employees, not because of the alg. Shit got heated and he made a stupid decision, happens to most people.

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MeeN MASTERP
MeeN MASTERP

"disagreeing with me is unreasonable" what a reasonable thing to say 🤣 oh man what a master of bait comedy

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Sibte A
Sibte A

Right, instead of quantifying the diversity level of a person in a game and making sure they all have enough of x y or z type characters... why don't they just let their writers do their damn job? Writing a compelling character matters way more then whether or not every type of human being is inside of the video game. Its defiantly nice when the cast is diverse and there exists a level of un-diverseness which is obvious and off putting (literally everyone being a white dude or girl in a setting that makes no sense such as a big city) but there is no need to quantify the diverseness of each individual character and make sure a checklist of diversity is completed. It comes off as weird and fake, and overtakes the point of the actual game or story.

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Ilona
Ilona

Maybe if they were actually interested in diversity and had diversity in their teams they would naturally be able to make diverse characters as they would have insight from people that ARE part of that diversity. But they 100% just ignore the people that work there and tell them 'that's not how you do it'. They will never get disability representation right if they don't hire disabled people and don't see and hear what it's like to be disabled and how everyday things work when you are disabled. They won't even talk to disabled people about their needs when it comes to gaming. The fuck are they representing other than greed?

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Rhodair Aurelien
Rhodair Aurelien

OW2 being [partially] free is not something I give Blizzard any credit for. They didn't do it because it's the player-friendly thing to do. If they could've made a lot off it, they would have in a heartbeat. Half the maps aren't even balanced for the changed player count, there aren't any noticeable changes to graphic quality, and it overall just feels like OW1 patches, not a new game. They would've sold the PvP mode too if they were confident about the reception of doing so. Same goes for loot boxes. They didn't suddenly wake up to it being unethical game design; they designed the game with it fully in mind and reluctantly changed after the fact.

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Steven Smith
Steven Smith

I'd imagine you'd have breast milk at work because you have to use a pump every so often, wait a few hours, then use it again. If you spend 8+ hours a day at work, makes sense to bring the pump with you, and use it in the restroom or something. Takes time for your body to make milk, so you have to stick to a regular schedule to make enough for your baby.

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Frostshokula
Frostshokula

29:54 I normally highly respect your ability to debate and explain, but man you completely missed the mark here. Anyone who just falls back on ad hominem generally lack substance to back up their claims.

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Frostshokula
Frostshokula

@Rhodair Aurelien Agreed. I also like how it started as ppl playing a character that represents them, and then turned into just cherry picking race. Like if someone makes a muscle bound, ripped, white female character with a scar across one eye and gigantic boobs then they are obviously self inserting if they are in fact a fat, weak, scar-less, white male. 😂

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Rhodair Aurelien
Rhodair Aurelien

@R J Immersion and self-inserting are 2 completely different things. Some can't get immersed any other way but not everyone is so lacking in imagination. Most who self-insert aren't doing it for immersion, they do it because they want their ego stroked.

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R J
R J

@Mugaro I mean.. it is common sense, most people play fantasy games for immersion, why do you think Cyberpunk got absolutely demolished because of the immersion breaking bugs?

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Mugaro
Mugaro

Yeah asmon hard coping on some of this. Id usually expect him to go get evidence to back up what he’s saying but instead he just says if you disagree with me you’re just stupid. Its kind of a letdown.

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Alexandru Chiciuc
Alexandru Chiciuc

When I customize a character I try to make it as close to my look as the game allows. If there are presets with no differences in abilities, I choose the one that closest resembles me. It's not a must, but if the options are available I go for it.

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Eduardo Barbosa
Eduardo Barbosa

Except for the part where mostly (99%) of the customization tools are completely unefficient to reproduce your look in like 20%. I think everybody try to make their character looks like themself at first for curiosity, but end up changing It for a random look

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Sky Castrum
Sky Castrum

I definitely don’t. I want to see all that the game has to offer and how well I can make it work. Got myself a jumbo sized bounty hunter in SWTOR and badass old Lyn in BnS. Probably a bit too biased towards small races though. They make the world feel bigger and my movement faster. Plus it’s an interesting change of pace from reality.

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Bolia Fops
Bolia Fops

a corporation.

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LiliumCruorem
LiliumCruorem

I’ve never super imposed my race over videogames. I tend to relate to the stories or themes in a game rather than the race of the character I am playing. I play a lot of scifi and fantasy games and in those games you rarely even play as a human so race doesn’t come into play and I feel like most really great games have had none human protagonists like no one complains that spyro wasn’t black lol. I play wow and main an Orc. I look nothing like an orc. I just like how they mean and loud. I understand wanting the option to make your character look like you on real life. I think asmo is right that most people play races that are the same as they are if the only option is human. In fantasy games adding racial coding would just be goofy. Like how come we don’t add black looking night elves?

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Thor Beerson
Thor Beerson

"There is no evidence..." well that's 100% true, how do I know that? There is evidence of them shredding said evidence.

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1un4cy
1un4cy

Players: We want more diversity in gameplay. Blizzard: Alright here's a diversity tool to maximize tokenism in our games. Players: That is so far removed from what we want, we meant more variable and dynamic gameplay to keep us on our feet and keep the game from getting boring.

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Jack Grim
Jack Grim

When I play games that allow you to customize your character, I agree that my first play thoughts I will build a character that resemble myself. If the game is worth multiple play throughs, I'll mix up race and gender.

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p rico
p rico

14:50 it's very simple ... The breast produces milk depending on how much The baby demands. So if a baby sucks a Lot , The breast produces a Lot, if The baby drinks a little The breast produces less. So The baby should be on The breast every 2 or 3 hours , So The hours The Mom is at work, if she doesnt milk them , The breast is gonna think The baby doesnt need that many, so it produces less. Basically , if we didnt have fórmula or technology, milk production would be a matter of life and death. One day on not freeing The baby can very well dry The Mom. So it's like a machine... If You stop for a while , it begins to slow down. It's consistancy, You can't interrupt it or You Will spend a couple of days bringing it back up. So what working women do is, they keep pumping on schedule, and freeze or store Their milk.. so when she is at work , someone is bottle feeding it to her baby at The house. Tl:dr milk production is bases off demand. Women have to pump at work, because it would lower significantly milk production, enought to stop production altogether. It's a machine that uses demand to produce .. The breast expect to be sucked every 2 hours or so. If You are at work, The breast thinks The baby doesnt need it. Ps.. My baby momma's we're lazy fucks, i used to Hold The pump every night while they sleept, both of them did The same for All 4 kids. The breast never produced more than an ounce at a time, because they just didnt Care pump or wake up to feed baby. Yeah i learned All about breastfeeding because All My babys didnt tolerate fórmula and The lazy assholes of Mom skipped everything breast related. One of Them literaly tasked me to Hold The pump every night 2 or 3 times a night. Never got any of them to produce to baby feed. All My kids sadly had to endure Bad tummy aches All of Their baby lives. I used to have horrible FIGHTS because of this, i used to not understand and wish that i was The one with breast so i could feed them, i wouldnt have missed a single pump. So tl,:dr mothers cannot stop pumping or Their milk production lowers very very low that in The natural world The baby would die. Please if You are a woman, don't do this to your husbands, breastfeed your baby, please it's your job, not his.

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NEDE to
NEDE to

Very nice and well explained. Every tNice tutorialng is crystal clear and easily understandable.

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Mugaro
Mugaro

26:55 That depends on the game and also changes depending on where you live. Just taking WoW vs FFXIV for example WoW has more male characters overall while FFXIV is the opposite, especially when you take in consideration the worldwide player base.

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3qui1i6riM
3qui1i6riM

Glad to see Act Man still making content! Good on him!

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Seth LaClaire
Seth LaClaire

I totally agree with Asmon on the issue of wanting your character to look like you and people tend to play those characters more. I completely agree that games should have multiple different character in them with different races so people can play what makes them feel comfortable. My issue comes from when game companies start assigning stuff like transgender, gay, les, non binary, etc. to fictional characters. What benefit does this information have to your video games except out of the realm of trying to garner brownie points and political points from the woke crowd. Just make different raced characters and leave the rest up to the individual to decide for themselves.

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GentlemenGhidorah
GentlemenGhidorah

I love how Warcraft 2 theme is playing during the sponsor. It's really iconic and fits thematically.

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xer0 affinity
xer0 affinity

22:31 That's actually so true and I wholeheartedly agree. Red Dead Redemption had Native American characters that you could play as in multiplayer and being a member of one of the Great Plains Nations, I legit put in hundreds of hours just for that. Of course I did. It was the Xbox 360 days and I wanted to play as someone who I looked like.

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Karmic Destiny
Karmic Destiny

@Ilona The answer is, shocker! Nobody likes fat or disabled options! Maybe you should go on a diet.

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ensanesane
ensanesane

@Ilona have you played horizon forbidden west? I was so happy that disability was represented respectfully in that game

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Ilona
Ilona

Yes, it's a big deal to have that. I get why the people that are always represented don't get it, they've never felt that disappointment when they made a new character in a new game. I'm mostly covered as a white European woman, but there's very few games that would allow me to make my character overweight and it is a genuine amazement and joy when a game allows me to do it, especially when it's not in a mocking way made for trolls to have 'funny' characters. My partner uses an electric wheelchair. He doesn't get representation in games at all other than the super rare background character NPC that you probably don't even get to talk to. As far as disability representation goes, they're barely getting around limb prosthetics on characters (which is as simple as repainting the arm physics they already use sometimes and they still fail to do it in most games as they don't even try to make the prosthetics act like realistic prosthetics act). The bar is so low we see game characters with prosthetics as a representation because that's the best my partner has to being represented as a gamer. Let alone the accessibility options, which are better nowadays, but still don't often cater to people with limited hand movements that might need to move controls about or something. Shoutout to Microsoft and Xbox for actually talking to disabled gamers to gather data on accessibility and for coming out with the adaptive game controller.

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Spumoon
Spumoon

6:55 I just think Overwatch 2 would have been the time to try some new things, like Halo 2 did in its series. Imagine if they added vehicles and had larger maps. I know that sounds crazy, but it would be really different and liven up the stale meta and offer a new way to play. You could have Tracer's Bike, Reinhardt and Brigitte's van, Roadhog and Junkrat's motorcycle, the Dropship that we climb out of at the beginning, and then they could give enhancements to Heroes who wouldn't make much sense in a vehicle; make Echo and Pharah and Mercy fly further faster, give Reinhardt a buff that will allow him to jet across the map in a super version of his charge. I would just like to see some new things tried, but why break from a profitable formula, huh? Whenever I've pitched this though I seem to be the only one who thinks it's a good idea. But then Big Team Battle is my favorite Halo mode, so...

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Annyeong H8rs
Annyeong H8rs

Man the diversity space method is so offensive on like 100 different levels and i love it

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Crimsonberry255
Crimsonberry255

@Hades Zero Plenty of things are used for Political Propaganda that shouldn't be. I'm just used to it and do much better just accepting that politics suck and will likely never change.

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Hades Zero
Hades Zero

@JT Owensby III bruh do you even read my comment?

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JT Owensby III
JT Owensby III

@Hades Zero telling people that being "woke" is a left wing idea is pretty obvious troll

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Hades Zero
Hades Zero

@Crimsonberry255 the problem with a lot of these words is they're used for political propaganda. Slang is ok but it's quite different from what I'm suggesting.

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Hades Zero
Hades Zero

@JT Owensby III who said they're ok????

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Chroniclerope
Chroniclerope

Love asmon talking out his ass without knowing anything about the overwatch situation.

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Robb Taylor
Robb Taylor

He just asked "How can so many people be so stupid?" He needs some more years in the world and it'll stop surprising him. Lol

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OldChappy
OldChappy

Blizzard should just pay Asmongold a million a year to review their marketing materials before release. They really need someone to say something is stupid.

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Concordia Harmony
Concordia Harmony

If I can put my own forethought on the OW2 stuff, my biggest issue is that from what I understand it's merging with OW1 multiplayer wise. Now that could be REALLY cool, but the problem is that it now forces a bunch of changes that people may not like in OW2 onto people that are happy with OW1. THe removal of the second tank that's been really contentious and the reworks that in my eyes just take away everything that made certain characters incredibly fun to play and stuff like that. On top of that, alot of the backlash OW2 was getting came BEFORE it got announced that it was going F2P. So people that already paid 60 bucks at launch would have to pay 60 bucks again for literally the exact same multiplayer and maybe a decent PVE mode that we have heard literally nothing about since the anouncement. By all accounts, they'd be paying full price for a literal update in graphics. I do agree with you though that it's dumb to get mad at the Battle Pass. Personally, I think it actually fits OW's reward system of Skins and Cosmetics to put it in a battle pass instead of making you gamble for it.

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Fabbrizio Plays
Fabbrizio Plays

"Most people want to play a character that looks like them. That's what I do" Something something all of Asmon's characters have hair

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Sky Castrum
Sky Castrum

The reason why “when they play humans they play their race” is dumb: You can’t know this by simple observation. People open to playing more things have less human characters proportionally to those who aren’t open to it, pretty much by definition. You can’t get a good grasp just by a “general feel.” The most likely way you reach the conclusion is a whole lot of projection.

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Erynja
Erynja

@Kaz Zy yeah that’s what I did with my very first wow character for exactly that reason. But the guild i joined 3 years later was a great guild and from there on it wasn’t an issue. But I get what you’re saying. Hope you nevertheless enjoy gaming and don’t let it bother you too much :)

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Kaz Zy
Kaz Zy

@Erynja I rarely choose human if there are other species and growing up I picked male characters as a female so I would be left alone. Now many games have in game voice communications, so it's harder.

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Kaz Zy
Kaz Zy

@Sibte A I grew up as a girl playing video games and played male characters all the time. Many of my friends who were also young girls at the time also played male characters. It allowed us to just play the game and not be bothered during a time where in game voice communication was not a thing. I lived in that world. Now we live in a time where there are articles and studies are being made over the question "why do males play female characters in video games?" Which the answers vary from having a smaller frame to be less detected in the game (sometimes even a smaller hitbox in some games) or the fact they would rather look at the ass of a female for 8+ hours a day than a big burly man ass. Now I am not saying based off my experience that he is 100% incorrect. I am saying based off my experience there is no way to know that for sure without actual data and is basing it purely off his own experience. Then throws a tantrum over it because normally he is reasonable and data driven and is being called out for not being data driven for this instance. It's not unreasonable to say "you don't know that is a fact without verifiable data" in the year 2022. Also inb4 it doesn't matter that much so there won't be any studies about it, so it will never be truly answered. If it doesn't matter that much why are you here and why did he throw a tantrum over it.

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Erynja
Erynja

@Kaz Zy you’re right without statistics you can’t really discuss anything properly. And I actually also think you cannot really just leave out the fact that most rpgs offer other species than humans and this is mostly what people will pick. You can’t just ignore that. This is what I meant by disregarding other factors. And of course not providing any data. Yeah in my experience if I can I never chose a human and if there’s no other choice I pick male characters. As soon as I heard that you could turn into a beast in bloodborne guess what I did I made a male character and went out to get everything I need to turn into a beast 😂

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JO3Y
JO3Y

No. I think the Loot Box craze has fizzled out since 2018. I believe the explicit mention of No Loot boxes was intentionally done be Blizzard to open up for new, and more efficient ways to monetize the game. Skins now will probably have an in-game store by which you can purchase separate skins for an in game purchasable currency. The Battle Pass will also be paid for, but you will still have a F2P game with these ways to get skins. The only other monetizable thing will be the PVE when it comes out. But that's the thing: Loot Boxes became a trend due to the Asian Gacha system which translated over into the American Gacha system. Monetization becomes an increasing problem because the prices you place on items can range from reasonable to fucking absurd. On a side note, the Gacha type game isn't all that bad. Where this becomes a problem is how much money can be wasted on the game. When you have games like Diablo Immortal which siphon money out of you like its a farm, you need to compare it to contemporaries that give players the option to use their money respectively and provide incentives such as Guaranteed items after a certain number of rolls. Its fair, because at some point you will get something and even determine what you are going after. And that's also another point that I think Asmon tries to make: Why do Mobile Games need to be bad. They don't need to be Triple A Releases, but I've played a few games on mobile that if given direct access to Triple A resources, can be the best game I've ever played. There is certainly talent in the market, and I think it's being squandered and shot with the stigma that Mobile Games attract due to their over monetization in most cases. TLDR Monetization has changed since 2018, with the F2P game that is heavily monetized with a Battle Pass, a paid in-game store, and other potential skins for monetization, and maybe even a 10th of the original content the game was SUPPOSED to release with, and you have yourself a modern Triple A multiplayer title waiting to be used and abused. This may in fact be what Overwatch 2 will be, and I won't be surprised as a result.

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Merivio
Merivio

45:20 spot on! The change in character name IS a constant reminder of what happened.

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fabian heinrich
fabian heinrich

@Asmongold TV: you said about the 18 million settlement:" i am sure they paid that ,because they were going to win." The sarcasm was obvious, but here is something you might not have known: they did not pay that money . What they actually agreed upon , was setting up a fund of 18 million Dollar and pay victims out of that, and 18 millions is the maximum. There have actually only been payed somewhat of 3 million dollars from that fund if i am not horribly mistaken. They even praised themself when they did it , with an official statement that went just about as smooth as the one where they credit themself for being not guilty and being victims of online media bashing. They praised themself for being such a great company that cares so much , that they setup a "help-fund" for the harrassed even though they have not been found guilty of anything, they are just doing it out of the good of their heart. Now that is how you turn sexual harassment into a compliment for yourself. I thought that was something that should be said in that regard. About what kind of charackters people play (skincolour and general experience) you are mostly right. People play what they would like to have in real life (girls looking as hot as possible) or want to be. What a lot of people will not admit and maybe quiet a few are not aware of that, is that they choose a charackter on the merrits they themselfs would like to be. In my younger years i was not very self confident , and my charackters looked like the people i looked up to, because i wanted to be like them. Since i grew older and much more self confident , most of my charackters look like me . i do not want to play a black charackter, because i can simply not identify myself with it, but i want that identification to have fun in this fantasy world. This is neither woke nor racist.

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FrozenAngel4173
FrozenAngel4173

Overwatch loot boxes were actually the best loot boxes in gaming. I have 2k hours in the game and it is very easy to get everything in the game through just playing the game. You don't need to purchase them at all.

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Bob513
Bob513

39:15 Yaaaay, it was so much fun playing 4 dps/1 tank/1 healer, if you were lucky. You had to be the one to pick either tank or healer cuz everyone wanted the deeps. I lost count of how many games I played where I was solo healing 5 damage players…

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Sumsar1989
Sumsar1989

This is the first time in a very long time I have seen Asmongold get so aggressive that he is going to ban people. I think Asmongold is right in general about people making avatars that represent them self. In single player games or in story driven games I make characters that look like me often. But I will often play another skin color then my own because I don’t want my character to be so white you can see him a hundred miles away. In MMO’s it is very rare for me to play a character that looks like me because I find that immersive breaking.

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Northz
Northz

I agree with Asmon's points about OW2, it's a lot of good changes. But this is the result of a damaged reputation and Blizzard deserves to get shit on no matter what they do, this is why a company should value their reputation in the first place. Otherwise there would be no consequence of ruining your own reputation.

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Pawney AO
Pawney AO

I don't want a character that represents me, the whole point of me playing fantasy games is to create a character that's different from myself, play in an unrealistic world. Having a character that's like me doesn't separate me from the reality. ...if that makes sense.

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Good Lookin' Out Homie
Good Lookin' Out Homie

Well I do like to somewhat identify with the character I'm playing - but yes I agree and it's not uncommon for me to roll a toon who is a dragon or a cat or a tree.

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UMCorian
UMCorian

The issue with Overwatch 2 and Blizzard in general: Blizzard has pretty much fairly sowed every bit of the contempt they reap. They're a garbage company. My first inkling when I hear they got rid of lootboxes, they're making it a free addition to Overwatch 1 is not "oh wow, that's awesome" it's... "OK, so if not that, then how *are* they going to try and screw everyone? Must be something they haven't announced yet."

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UMCorian
UMCorian

@Banhbao To me, that's irrelevant. The company that spent almost 7 years building the Titan MMO that got scrapped and recycled into Overwatch 1 doesn't exist anymore. Overwatch 1 wasn't built with a montezation scheme in mind. I am positive Overwatch 2 will be, and the fact it's "F2P" is just reinforcing this for me.

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Asgeir
Asgeir

Yeah same. I was like, ah. Lootboxes wasn't enough money for them. So now they have figured out some way to make more money and force people to pay continiously for the game cause enough people weren't buying boxed (me for example).

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Banhbao
Banhbao

@Dan the system that give you everything you want is the "fair system". The one that does not is disgustingly predatory. Ok

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Dan
Dan

@Tomas yeah this was my biggest problem with ow2. I accumulated tons of skins including legendary ones and earned currency so I could buy the ones that I wanted all without ever buying a loot box. It was one of the fairest systems. The shift to a battle pass is actually a worse deal for me. The other issue is the 2 means I want a sequel that looks different with significant fidelity upgrades. Instead we get a reskin. I would be happy to buy it. If I got a worthy sequel. I don’t give a crap about it being free to play. If they had called it anything else I wouldn’t have been let down for a “poor looking sequel”

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Travis Robbins
Travis Robbins

Like when they released tons of D2 resurrected information that made it look amazing and then they made sure to only announce that they were getting rid of TCP/IP co-op and were severely limiting what mods could do within like weeks of release. The game went from a must buy to a fuck that shit instantly over night.

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Petar
Petar

I don't want diversity showed down my throat in games like it can happen these days. I don't think anyone can argue that majority of the people want to play a character with the same race as they are in real life or similarities and that's fine but that doesn't justify making a complete diverse cast when majority of the people that will play it are of one ethnicity. As an example look at China, they have a lot of games where all of their characters are Chinese. This is just simple logic, world doesn't revolve around you and i have nothing against you if you are from any kind of minority, market should decide what is in the game and that means majority of the players whatever ethnicity they are and make majority of the characters fit them. I am not saying that there shouldn't be any characters of different ethnicity, just that their number should be much lower depending on where game.

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Ashbringerx
Ashbringerx

"I think everyone disagreeing with me is a delusional idiot" Sounds like a true reditor

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Ifirespondiamstupid
Ifirespondiamstupid

@Jaymerka That's hella boring. I feel sorry for people who think like that:/

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Ardyn Amberglow
Ardyn Amberglow

@German Furman That's more or less the same approach I take. I play a cool or interesting character first. I'm not looking to be myself in a game, I'm looking to be someone else entirely.

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German Furman
German Furman

@Ardyn Amberglow I'm a white guy, all I do is think "Oh that would be a cool character" regardless of race and then play the character, must truly be some weirdo USA thing

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Ardyn Amberglow
Ardyn Amberglow

@Gabriel Amadej I think if he said "a majority of people want to play as characters that share some similarities with them" he'd have been fine, but saying everyone ONLY wants to play themselves it just incorrect, and narrow minded. I'm a guy, but if you look at my RPGs, I play females 90% of the time.

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Jaymerka
Jaymerka

@Gabriel Amadej the only reason why what he says wouldn't apply to people is when the choice of gender or race makes a difference in terms of abilities or the class you pick. An example would be lost ark.

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Madlax
Madlax

About the characters creations, i don't think it's that simple at all. The point of making a character looks like you, very often, is because the person wants to create and play a better version of themself, so there is a lack of self confidence somewhere too. There are also people who just want to play a realistic version of themself in the video game for immersion, but that's pretty rare in a mmorpg with fantasy components. However most of the person who does the opposite, they dont. Moreover, they are usually trying to create and play a character of the opposite gender because they want to play a character they would like to be with, like a phantasm.

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Clocked
Clocked

Problem with OW2 stems from this logic: - They made it F2P (Removing one source of revenue that the first game had) - They removed lootboxes (Removing another steady source of game revenue) - A battlepass alone can't compensate for the loss of revenue Unless, certain characters are locked behind the battle pass, and said characters are needed in the meta.

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bara
bara

“They said they were getting rid of loot boxes in overwatch 2” I do also remember them saying they wouldn’t sell gears in diablo immoral But look at where we are asmongold

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Daniel N
Daniel N

@bara I know what u mean. I stopped playing overwatch a few years ago and hardly game now like I used to unless it'd older games. So many games are ruined by greedy crap

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bara
bara

@Daniel N i think that is the problem with you and the gaming industry Im buying games to “play” Not the skins ,emotes and gems

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Daniel N
Daniel N

overwatch lootboxes where fine. I got hundreds for free and tons of free skins etc. It will end up being way harder to get stuff without paying for battle passes and shit

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Rhodair Aurelien
Rhodair Aurelien

@Uelibertiga "You can increase your drops for money after a dungeon" That still is a lootbox, just with a different coat of paint. All that's changed is the acquisition.

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Username
Username

@Uelibertiga that still sounds like a lootbox with a mandatory quest attached to open it My expectations for overwatch 2 is that its just gonna be made even grindier than overwatch something like adding a daily limit of coins you can get being just shy of the cost of one mystery box and a tenth of the cost of an epic skin and 1/20 for a legendary

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sammy
sammy

honeslty asmongold always has his head in the correct space. he is able to see both positives and negatives. and honestly that is so refreshing.

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Lohengramm
Lohengramm

"Most poeple dont care about race or gender when creating their character in a game" -👦🏻 Like 90% of female lol players play exclusively female characters. Most games have a white guy as the main character so any time a woman or person of a different ethnic group gets the chance to play as a character that looks like them or they can Identify with better they will use it.

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Anthony Roberge
Anthony Roberge

The choice of how a character looks is entirely decided by the creator of the game. You get games with massive character customization and you'll have all sorts of goofy characters. Just look at tiny Tina's and elden ring two games with massive customization and all the characters I see are dumb as heck looking. For a guy who plays mmos hes pretty brain dead to that fact.

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Uneecorn
Uneecorn

I'm black and in games my characters skintone is black or as dark as I can make it. I am never satisfied with the character I make unless she's brown(unless I'm something completely inhuman) it just feels better. I wish people could just agree that more customization options are better. And to be honest just accept that people want to be black in games. All these people upset never had to deal with being unable to be their race in a game and it shows. Imagine if an mmo came out and you couldn't be white. People would lose their shit.

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solitude687
solitude687

I do the same thing. I always create a black female character with my wife's name. it's an ongoing joke with her. The only times i used a white or other character was when I didn't have an option to.

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Ahmed Nur Ahmed
Ahmed Nur Ahmed

yeah when I try to make myself in the game and only get the option of afro and cornrows...

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Cowboy Crab
Cowboy Crab

The funny part of Mccree is that Jesse didnt decide it. In an interview for the making of Overwatch, he states that he was given a stack of papers at work one day to sign. These papers would disassociate him from the character and he would forfeit all claim to the name "Jesse Mccree". His superiors thought his name "sounded like a cowboy name" so they wanted to use it for the character. He was told to sign, he signed. Still dont like him, but he wasnt the one who decided that.

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Rhodair Aurelien
Rhodair Aurelien

@Asgeir aye made me chuckle like " _that's_ how forgettable that new name is" 😅

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Asgeir
Asgeir

@Rhodair Aurelien Ah right, I mean Cassidy. Anyway, I had forgotten it. I still call him mcree and thought it was his name,.

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Rhodair Aurelien
Rhodair Aurelien

@Asgeir Jesse McCree was previous - new name is Cole Cassidy (makes me think of coleslaw 🤢)

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Asgeir
Asgeir

Also it's a good name. I forgot his name is now Jesse. To me he is still Mcree.

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Ryuho the Wolf
Ryuho the Wolf

Yeah he has no actual connection to the character at all outside them using his name because it sounded like a cowboy name.

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Cruros
Cruros

32:08 I watch and enjoy a lot of content from Asmon and have for many years, but man does he not do well with people not agreeing with him.

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SynthLizard8
SynthLizard8

In regards to the workplace, I think it should be completely uniform, no dresses or skirts, no make-up or high heels, purely sensible shoes, workshirt and pants and absaloutly no children or breast feeding. The big problem with woman is that they are othered so easily from not being held to the same uniformity that men have to abide by and it creates this toxic alienation with both employees and employers.

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hggpi
hggpi

I have a feeling asmongold couldnt really express him totally when he talked about ppl play similar characters to themself. So ppl mostly play a character which has similaritys and they add stuff to the character they dont have, its half ideal half similar

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Dr. Smell Zone
Dr. Smell Zone

Lmfao "The difference is, there aren't orcs in real life." Actually fucking hilarious that he has to explain this

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Lyrro
Lyrro

AB said they were getting rid of lootboxes in Overwatch 2, but they also said legendary crests are not lootboxes because you have to play the game to get your lootbox after buying the crest. So... yeah. If I had to make a guess, AB is going to have lootboxes in Overwatch 2 but there will be a similar gimmick where they say "well, it's not technically a lootbox so technically, we didn't lie.".

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Black Wolf
Black Wolf

Ehm here’s your loot cylinder sir

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Richárd Duska
Richárd Duska

@JT Owensby III Correct. I do play mobile games but this one is worthy of banning. It is borderline illegal the way they are doing this whole thing and the amount of cash they want.

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JT Owensby III
JT Owensby III

@Richárd Duska some country's aren't so stupid and banned it still

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Richárd Duska
Richárd Duska

You know what's funny? TECHNICALY the Legendary gems in Diablo Immoral REN'T loot boxes because you don'T pay for a gatcha instead you can ensure them getting droped in game from dungeons. So in other terms they are getting past any and all regulations that may be related to loot boxes (like the ones that are in Japan and Korea.). Combine this with the fact that they removed the loot box mechanic from OW2 we might just see what comes in the future.

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Sonny J
Sonny J

It's not even about loot boxes in overwatch but after essentially the whole format being destroyed by goat format they essentially gutted the audience and made a big hoha about big changes to overwatch 2. At a point you made extremely big promises on destroying a game so it should be different. Making small changes and killing a game for years doesn't help in feelings

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Walter White
Walter White

defending Blizard in any way at this point is one of two things: Innabillity to dicern patterns or the missinformation that its still Blizzard and not Activision Blizzard

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Louis
Louis

people definitely do play as characters they identify with more *IF* they have the choice to. Most people won't care what they're playing as but 9/10, when you have the ability to choose the kind of character you play as you'll be more likely to choose the one you identify with more because the entire point of that is just so you can more easily project yourself onto the character.

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Horst Hantelbank
Horst Hantelbank

I must say that Asmon's Overwatch 2 take is the first thing in a while i strongly disagree with him on. I think it is shameless to let Overwatch sit for years on end without any content updates whatsoever with the explanation of them working on Overwatch 2 and then it is literally the same Game with a new Hero and a dogshit UI. I was massively disappointed as a big fan of the original Overwatch. Other than that keep up your content. Cheers

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Pigcat
Pigcat

I once suggested on reddit that the next mass effect game main character should actually be a batarian, because there's so much story potential there to look at the events of the previous games through the lens of a batarian, where someone like shepard is going to be a more complicated figure. No matter how much shepard united everyone against the reapers, their decisions killed 300,000 batarians, even if it was a 'choose the lesser evil' situation where the real culprits were people who didn't listen to shepard for too long. You could go so many ways. Factions within batarian society who have a more nuanced take and try to take lesson in how the event is an example of the consequences of government systems who don't do enough until it's too late, whereas other factions let what happened with Shepard validate their speciesism against humans. Then there's the whole fact that they're also pretty much a nomadic society now that's been splintered from so much of their civilization being destroyed. There's A LOT of potential there. But at least in the wee midnight hours when I posted it, everyone fucking hated this idea because no one wanted to play as a batarian. Because of course. People want to be able to choose what they look like and the ability to make characters that look like themselves. Playing as a fem shep or male shepard fundamentally feels different as well, even if you're fine with either.

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Brekner Catalin
Brekner Catalin

Speaking from MY experience, about half the raid teams I've raided with in WoW were made out of female characters, and the ones playing them were guys. So making the character to look like you, again, from my experience, is not really that common. But then again, lots of guys who play games aren't really fit, you know? So why would you want to create some fat, balding guy? O_O And yeah, I always play female characters if there's a choice. And I play Japanese looking characters whenever possible. In some games (like RDR2Online) I play women of color /shrug. Edit: oh, so he only means that 80% of the humans in WoW play characters that are their race, lol. Why didn't he say so in the first place?!

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Saarefey
Saarefey

Two cents here. I agree that that people will self insert themselves on a character that they play and make characters that look like them. I'd argue that more people try to attribute more to the character's ideals and personality. Which I think transcends race, and applies to more than just some human ethnicity. When a game does something like this it's mostly spectacle first, character last.

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Spadez86
Spadez86

Asmon's eyebrow raise expressions are like ASMR for the eyes

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C F
C F

Regardless of how shitty they are, if the goal of a company to make as much money as possible, in whatever way possible, Activision Blizzard are a fantastic company. Constantly breaking their profit records whilst simultaneously decreasing costs by layoff and decreasing the work necessary to produce a product that will bring in money. 10/10 company. On the consumer side though, worker side, environment, just about every perspective other than making money for shareholders... Steaming pile of doggy diarrhoea would be kind.

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Elijah Greiser
Elijah Greiser

The fact that everyone debating on what the Asmon says about people creating characters in an MMORPG to look like them generated more content than his actual reaction to The Act Man's video is 11/10.

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wellbi
wellbi

The issue is that he used an example and percentage that make absolutely no sense and we know it. And because it's blatantly not true there're people who will argue about that. The issue with his argument is that if it was true, there would be 80 percent of humans and various elves. Nobody would be creating a humanoid cow, nobody would create a space goat, a green scrooge, a green/blue humanoid with huge tusks and scoliosis, a panda and we can go on. When I checked the data on races, these "human lookalike" races (Humans and elves) were around 40 percent of characters. More than half of people actually don't choose their game character mainly on the basis of its resemblance to themselves. ... And because Asmon is so eager to call anyone who doesn't agree on the topic he clearly pulls numbers out of a hat as "morons', people simply have a word or two to say on the topic.

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Jon Connor
Jon Connor

@Jimmy My point was that it doesn't matter what your reason is. You like it and want it that way so you do it. You don't need to try and justify the choice or convince me of why you did it. It is your choice of character in a fucking video game it doesn't matter beyond you just like it better that way. To purposefully point out what reasons it isn't and saying its not this reason I like its this reason is a waste of time. If it is about your sexuality or it isn't doesn't matter.

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Jimmy
Jimmy

@Jon Connor honestly i play mostly females in games and it has like zero to do with my sexuality or orientation. it s just that some armor or cosmetics look way better on females. and its nice to be a bad ass female wizard/mage whatever the class.

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Ele_
Ele_

@Tibi K. That doesn't make any sense. The reason why self inserts are cringe is because they take everything personal when it has anything remotely to do with their character. It's okay to have pride in oneself, but it is not necessary to take that pride into a video game

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ValenAlvern
ValenAlvern

@ethereal penguin I just assumed he was mainly talking about skin colour and not "1:1 literally me" types of characters. Mostly when people complain about "forced diversity" in a video game is usually just xenophobic shit. He is wrong though about how people play characters, because most people dont give a shit and play what they want.

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Mathew Cole
Mathew Cole

"It's kind of funny, that there's been so many other stupid things that've happened, that we forgot about this one....you know what I mean? We just forgot about this one!" Is there a marketing/PR version of the Gish Gallop, Asmon? If so, ABK is engaging in it!

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Owen Smith
Owen Smith

I wasnt on stream when you were live, but i think the main difference in why I think your "take" on the diversity is skewed is whether the game has character creation. If a game has character creation I would bet more money on the fact that people will likely make a character that looks similarly to the player (which you kinda hinted to), I think this results in more "white, male" characters as I believe majority of gamers in NA are white, males. But i dont think that your arguement holds if there are preset characters. Not once do i think that people dont play Jett, in Valorant because she is a korean female? They arent only playing Brimstone because he is a white american. I think if people have the choice, they will create themselves, which I dont think at all is related to race/racism bias. And if they do not have a choice (preset character design), race has no bearing on 98% of gamers

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The Tempter
The Tempter

Overwatch actually had one of the ONLY loot box systems I didn't care about. You wasn't forced to buy any of them you where just given them. Blizz taking it away looks good on paper but will make it even worse.

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Jessica Fox
Jessica Fox

The reason why they changed the system in Overwatch was because of the GOAT strategy literally killing the competitive scene. Another victory for Bobby, he probably gave himself a raise after that. On the note of critics, I actually think that the user base generally is the disingenius aspect of the reviews... Let's be real, while I absolutely fucking hated everything related to Reforged. I do not think that it is a 0.6 out of a 10... That's just fucking stupid. The game isn't atrocious, it is the practice behind it that is. 59 out of a 100 is probably more in line with what's actually a fair rating. Now should they completely rethink their way of reviewing and think about the general practice of the company? Maybe, but that's a different discussion all together. Though the 68 out of 100 for Immortal feels like a stretch from at MOST a 50 out of 100.

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Kara Paupus
Kara Paupus

I've played a wow character of every race. He didn't actually argue the very good point people were making about how many people are playing fantasy races, he just said "oh my god you're dumb" and didn't actually make his point. And if I were to be a completely dishonest, bad-faith arguer, if what he's saying is true, wouldn't that make anyone who picked a white character racist, because they inherently pick white characters, and don't want to play characters of other races? Really though, it was very clear that he was projecting how he feels onto everyone. He can't actually know what 99% of the players he plays with are.

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Nick Elakon
Nick Elakon

I would say, I think his overall point is correct, most people (you have to remember most people isn't "most gamers" or "most roleplayers" we're largely talking about normies here) want a character that is basically them, consciously I would say it's probably a 60/40 split, subconsciously I would say the figures would line up closer to 80/20, because I think people are probably subconsciously drawn towards features that are like their own and might implement them into their characters.

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apocalypseap
apocalypseap

Indeed. He'd need to actually do proper scientific work to know something like this with any degree of certainty, which he will never do because that's work and he's lazy.

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Anton Sundin
Anton Sundin

I mean sure you can take Asmons point of view... it's understandable. But people feeling fed up with Activision and not be willing to praise them for removing loot boxes out of a game is also perfectly reasonable imo. Blizzard has done so much bad that it's gonna take more than that to win me back.

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Jens
Jens

The whole meme about wanting to look like your character is the biggest meme I ever heard, I played wow since release and I have yet to see a single person making a char that even remotely resembles them LOL

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Drew G
Drew G

I believe there is a significant difference between diversity & inclusion vs just adding in characters. The former sounds it, but it literally is not all diverse and inclusive, which is obvious if you search for the results on the internet for 2 seconds. Diversity & inclusion is indomitably subjective. Period. Those terms are now used as a collection of words to target crazy people. The simplest solution is to just call them characters rather than 'a diverse character' or an 'inclusive character'. That is where asmon loses me. I think I know what asmon was trying to say, but he said it completely wrong.

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Representative dot in a theoretical circle
Representative dot in a theoretical circle

Once a company becomes publicly traded its over. At that point forward its a money making machine only. Blizzard died years ago.

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