5 WOODS Better Than PINE

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    Woodworkers SourceWoodworkers Source

    (The difference between rift/quarter/flat sawn mentioned in this video is found here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeRjX... ) Hey woodworkers, I think you're in for it now. We know your budget is tight when it comes to buying wood. Or when you're new to woodworking, it's not exactly easy to know which wood is right for your project. We totally get it. So let us help point you in the right direction with 5 hardwoods that we think you should check out.



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Woodworkers Source
Woodworkers Source

POP QUIZ Y'all: what's stable, tough and good looking? A). White Oak B). You C). The one that got away

Vor 2 years
EGA Woodworks
EGA Woodworks

I'll say White Oak...wife claims it's definitely not me..

Vor 2 Monate
Jackson T
Jackson T

Stable, tough, and good looking? D) Ipe. But just like C)......she's not easy to find. And once you find her......she's expensive and can be difficult to work with. 😛

Vor 3 Monate
casey winters
casey winters

The mighty oak

Vor 3 Monate
Brian Leabo
Brian Leabo

A

Vor 4 Monate
Thomas Russell
Thomas Russell

@JC Alpha any video or pics on your channel? Do you have a link to any source where we can see pictures or a video? Thanks, Thomas

Vor 7 Monate
hrbangash
hrbangash

What wood is better for making doors and window and what is the price of ash wood and yallow pine per feet in your country ?

Vor Tag
InkyAk86
InkyAk86

I bought some pine from lowes to build an adirondack chair, it was cheap and that's what I wanted as this was my first build to learn from. But man this stuff was Horrible! Had to clean pitch build up after just a couple passes and if I drilled into it, a glob of sap came out of the hole. I learned a lot and now want to do a better one with better wood but having a hard time deciding what to get, I can only find rough sawn cedar locally but heard that it is not kiln dried, therefore wet and prone to shrinkage, they have sipo mahogany, which I am not sure of but cost wise not to bad at $8 bf, also considering cypress, worried that white oak would be to heavy

Vor Monat
Jay C. White Cloud
Jay C. White Cloud

Let's see...???... The most used wood species in the world are...???... Softwoods...(aka Pine, etc) Reasons are endless and have little to do with what you stated in this video... As for "dry wood" vs "green wood"...???...You may wish to really learn the actual history of how (and when) most wood is worked both historically and even today... As a point of reference (from houses and floors to furniture and utensils) I have seldom used "dry wood" and still don't... MOST lumber was (and still is) used in green (aka wet) state by the modern "wood machinists" understanding of this material as clearly laid out in your current video claims and perspectives... Pine species are superior in many (not all) ways to all those wood species you have listed, hence the reason is a dominant species in art, architecture, and furniture globally...now and historically......

Vor Monat
Britshka Salvador
Britshka Salvador

Whats the best wood for making utencils - beech - pine or - oak ??

Vor Monat
Ashley Cox
Ashley Cox

Is pine not used because it's cheap, where as those beautiful hardwoods said to be other options are all really expensive hardwoods? I understand softwood grows much faster and is therefore cheaper? At least this is the case in the UK.

Vor 2 Monate
Robert Cornelius
Robert Cornelius

Pine Wood Lives Matter.

Vor 2 Monate
Vablo
Vablo

Your audio has a high pitch noise. dislike cos of that sry.

Vor 2 Monate
Wes Tanner
Wes Tanner

Loved the rundown! I only wish that your assessment of "inexpensive" still rang true in 2021.

Vor 2 Monate
EGA Woodworks
EGA Woodworks

Joined the Rosewood Club about three months ago and I've also watched a few of your videos Mark. Very educational and has resulted in encouraging me to step outside the box and learn more about hardwoods. Thanks again brother !

Vor 2 Monate
Romaine Athey
Romaine Athey

I'm pretty sure you can still buy plans with all the details you need on Stodoys.

Vor 2 Monate
Romaine Athey
Romaine Athey

I will try to do it with Stodoys plans.

Vor 2 Monate
Jose Ville
Jose Ville

Hi! Great video. Subscribed! Which of these would be strong enough for van build cabinetry?

Vor 2 Monate
Laticia Cull
Laticia Cull

Try the best carpenters and woodworkers plans. Woodprix.

Vor 2 Monate
Gravy Master
Gravy Master

Mark - I’ve been on your website a few times since watching this video looking for beechwood, but it’s never even listed as part of inventory. Do you ever sell it?

Vor 2 Monate
CraftyMom
CraftyMom

Very helpful and I’m totally new to woodworking 😊

Vor 2 Monate
The Messenger
The Messenger

Which wood is best for designing a speaker box ?

Vor 2 Monate
Dennis Irungu
Dennis Irungu

Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 👏👏👏

Vor 2 Monate
jane romnicki
jane romnicki

Quick easy access to many projects with Woodglut plans.

Vor 2 Monate
Jorj
Jorj

Poplar is one of those woods that can be a little deceptive. The piece you have on your table in the video has a very nice piece of green coloring in it. I've cut pieces for projects that had a bit of purple in them. Unfortunately, those colors don't stay. Well, the green mostly will though it will fade with aging. The purple on the other hand completely disappears in a few months. I was extremely pleased with the peace that I had made I built a table with Poplar skirts, and insured while I was building it that it had a prominent purple section in the front piece where it would be seen the most. After about 6 weeks of age, the purple head pretty much completely disappeared into a pale Brown. So disheartening.

Vor 3 Monate
Armando Garcia
Armando Garcia

What. Why isn't Jutoba on the List......?..... JKG, brittle, doesn't have strait grain, ect ect ect, pretty color, and, steam bends well, Its like me, in order to become yousfull need to be steamed up... yo ladies....

Vor 3 Monate
Intoxicated Masculinity
Intoxicated Masculinity

Nice things

Vor 3 Monate
Richard Patterson
Richard Patterson

"As long as you have something nice to say we'd love to hear from you" Dang, I have nothing to say about oak in that case. I appreciate your videos and I always learn from you.... but I have nothing to say about oak. ☹🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮

Vor 3 Monate
Richard Patterson
Richard Patterson

I find oak to be putrid in smell, hideous in appearance and a complete hassle to work with. My fuming hated is only topped by my loathing for red oak! Sorry, I couldn't help myself. At least oak isn't pine (heaving noises)

Vor 3 Monate
casey winters
casey winters

Beech and white oak are pretty similar to work with. I prefer the look of white oak personally though

Vor 3 Monate
casey winters
casey winters

Poplar sucks

Vor 3 Monate
casey winters
casey winters

I say alder is perfect for new wood workers. Also great for old ones

Vor 3 Monate
Errol Pereira
Errol Pereira

Big thanks from Canada! Really appreciate the wealth of information and how entertaining you are.

Vor 3 Monate
Steven Guevara
Steven Guevara

Really love your videos dude. Wish you could sell 3x3 lumber though. 😋

Vor 4 Monate
Brian Leabo
Brian Leabo

Never go to big box it's wet or warped or cracked and not cut well

Vor 4 Monate
Vernon Knight
Vernon Knight

How would you compare Poplar against Sitka Spruce in hardness?

Vor 4 Monate
Tommy Collier
Tommy Collier

This is the exact video that I needed to see.

Vor 4 Monate
Sagir Santana
Sagir Santana

Thanks for your video Mark! It was awesome, I'm going to build a dining table for us, what wood would you recommend for someone with not a lot of experience but with some woodworking experience? Thanks

Vor 4 Monate
Woodworkers Source
Woodworkers Source

What kind of a look do you want?

Vor 4 Monate
Jimmy Featherston
Jimmy Featherston

Great Job.....I learned a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vor 4 Monate
Edward Vasquez
Edward Vasquez

JUST RETIRED, IM DOING WOOD WORK NOW. THIS AREA IS ALL KNEW TO ME, THIS HELPS A WHOLE LOT. THANKS MARK. TEXAS.

Vor 4 Monate
Julius H
Julius H

Where are you finding these woods your calling cheap !!! Lol oh your a salesman

Vor 4 Monate
Edward R
Edward R

can you make wood tier hardness, like top 10 most produced hardest wood in your own atmosphere of knowledge(as far as you know the hardest top 10 wood)

Vor 5 Monate
Lane Meyer
Lane Meyer

Why are you showing White Oak when your talking about Beech?

Vor 5 Monate
Craig Larkins
Craig Larkins

Best -OST on types of wood, I’ve ever seen, so thank you for this, now subscribed.

Vor 5 Monate
Mark Dyer
Mark Dyer

My local Home Depot carries most of these options in S4S. But like you said there are still a lot of cupping and bowing because they are stored improperly

Vor 5 Monate
Christopher Perry
Christopher Perry

What would you build an indoor dining table with if you’re going for a modern rustic look?

Vor 5 Monate
C A
C A

A tip for staining beech without it looking patchy is to spray it on, then wipe it off. That's what we do to get a pretty good, even coverage for our pieces as we stain beech to be a few different browns and greys for our production furniture.

Vor 5 Monate
Ranjeet Banerjee
Ranjeet Banerjee

Hi Glad to see your video I am from India🇮🇳 an artist a painter and a sculpturist Now a days trying to make a violin with maple and spruce but can't get it. Could you supply it?

Vor 5 Monate
Andre44
Andre44

Every wood is better than pine

Vor 5 Monate
humlakullen
humlakullen

What about morning wood..?

Vor 5 Monate
humlakullen
humlakullen

@Woodworkers Source 😂... Touché!

Vor 5 Monate
Woodworkers Source
Woodworkers Source

It’s not nearly hard enough

Vor 5 Monate
William Howard
William Howard

lowes ,oak pine,poplar some construction red wood

Vor 5 Monate
Greg Rossel
Greg Rossel

There is alot more red oak than white oak. White oak can be used outdoors whereas red oak cannot. Other popular american woods are walnut, cherry, quater sawn sycamore (american lace wood), birch, hickory, redwood, cedar, spruce, box elder, and ash.

Vor 5 Monate
Unseen Thresh
Unseen Thresh

I know it's it is soft wood but do you think Hemlock i decent enough for a bed frame. I have 2-1/2 thick that's been dried for 2 years and planed on all 4s

Vor 5 Monate
Prakash Budhu
Prakash Budhu

Very helpful

Vor 5 Monate
Richard Martin
Richard Martin

Oh to do woodwork in the States. I love those timbers but they are almost impossible to source here (Australia) and if you can they are expensive. Sure, we have our fancy hardwoods which are mainly eucalypts and while they have lovely grain patterns they don't take clear finishes all that well and I don't like staining.

Vor 5 Monate
Peter Sedesse
Peter Sedesse

Really informative and concise, thank you.

Vor 6 Monate
Jason Talley
Jason Talley

I was just looking at you website today. Plan to put an order together soon.

Vor 6 Monate
Beakerzor
Beakerzor

thanks!

Vor 6 Monate
Wang Chung
Wang Chung

Awesome! New sub. Wish you were here in Appalachia. I'm sure the shipping would kill any chance of me being able to purchase wood from you.

Vor 6 Monate
george hyker
george hyker

Great overview! Thank you.

Vor 6 Monate
Seacoast
Seacoast

Thank you for the information!!

Vor 6 Monate
Woodworkers Source
Woodworkers Source

Here to serve 👍👍

Vor 6 Monate
Graey 22
Graey 22

Thank you for the great info! Out of curiosity would select pine boards be good for furniture building also?

Vor 6 Monate
Woodworkers Source
Woodworkers Source

Sure thing

Vor 6 Monate
slchang01
slchang01

Thanks for the informative video. I have been a weekend woodworker for almost 35 years. When I started in early 80s, hardwood boards were relatively inexpensive compared to the motorized woodworking tools. However, after late 90s, things changed significantly that the tool prices came down a lot, while the hardwood lumber prices went up a lot. I used to get my red oak from a wood mill shop for less than $1 per board feet green which I seasoned them in a shed. After I moved away and used up my stock red oak in 2000s, I checked the red oak prices at local lumber stores and was shocked by the prices. Since I do not have access to the lumber mill shop now and reluctant to buy the 4S boards, I thought about the Southern Yellow Pine than big box stores carry, which is stronger, stiffer, and heavier than the white pine. You have a point about the construction grade pine lumber, but if you know how to work with the SYP, it can be a good source of lumber for your woodworking projects. They are inexpensive, and can be selected at your heart's content at the big box stores that are straight, and clear. Besides, the boards (1.5" thick) can be planed down to the desired thickness that you can not do with the 3/4" hardwood boards. The finished projects are just as pretty, functional and sturdy.

Vor 6 Monate
martino amello
martino amello

I still use a lot of construction lumber to make furniture with, but I'll lay it right on the shop floor for several months, walk on it, kick it around, etc, but it's drying out all that time. When I'm ready to actually use it I'll run though the planer to flatten it, run it through the jointer and end up with some decent lumber. With hardwoods I'll typically use white oak, cherry and others. It goes up on the rack for a good while to dry out..

Vor 6 Monate
Pitts Chapel Farm
Pitts Chapel Farm

I do bent wood projects and soft maple is my go to. The stuff just works well. I use cherry too but the maple is easier to work with, less prone to crack, and has good memory. Thanks for your tutorial, great job!

Vor 6 Monate
Autodidactic Artisan
Autodidactic Artisan

Heres my list Poplar Doug fir Redwood Maple Walnut

Vor 6 Monate
SergioU
SergioU

Arce blando 2:19 Álamo 3:01 Haya (europea) 4:12 Abedul nudoso 5:01 Roble blanco 5:26 ¡SUBSCRIBED!

Vor 6 Monate
Juan Riptide Camacho
Juan Riptide Camacho

Dude, this is super informative since I'm thinking about making a twin size bed frame to accommodate my 9" mattress. Although I think I'll take a detour drying and hardening the wood by incorporating Japanese techniques and using raw linseed oil for finishing!

Vor 6 Monate
Juan Riptide Camacho
Juan Riptide Camacho

Fun fact: Skateboards are made from maple to allow them to take a beating but when the board doesn't flip properly and wacks you in the shin, we'll just walk it off!

Vor 6 Monate
Conrad DuBois
Conrad DuBois

Poplar does not have much of a grain pattern like most pine.

Vor 6 Monate
Mike and Molly Spivey
Mike and Molly Spivey

What wood is best for indoor farmhouse table tops?

Vor 6 Monate
J Elmo
J Elmo

Mark, you’re the best, always cultivating the woodworkers intellect on woods, techniques and finishing. They also are a great source for purchasing your project woods, great prices, ships to your door and very convenient. I’ve used them many times. Love the information packed videos! Many thanks.

Vor 6 Monate
Matthew Kolb
Matthew Kolb

talks way too fast. Whats the rush?

Vor 7 Monate
Ryan Sanderson
Ryan Sanderson

I’m from NB Canada and we have very few hard wood only ones we have that grow around here are, maple... and the rest is all soft wood, others hard woods are rare, ash, oak. But there is lots of beech around here but no one saws it we burn it in wood stoves

Vor 7 Monate
tom jens
tom jens

In my country hardwoods are like 3 TIMES more expensive than spruce/fir/pine. Strange thatin your country those are considered not expensive

Vor 7 Monate
John Page
John Page

Be careful using oak for outdoor projects. I built a bench out of recycled oak cabinets and because it was red oak it fell apart in less than a year. The red oak end grain absorbs water and it rots from the inside. In big box stores they do not carry white oak - at least around here in Calif. They can look identical but you can test which is which using sodium nitrite - see https://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-red-oak-from-white-oak/

Vor 7 Monate
Tommy Collier
Tommy Collier

thank you Mark, verry helpful.

Vor 7 Monate
TruthSerum
TruthSerum

Why not clear Alder? No knots and it's a great wood to work with.

Vor 7 Monate
david burns
david burns

as a long time cabinet builder and woodworker - i had no idea how much stuff i didn't know - thanks

Vor 7 Monate
emc14000
emc14000

Whats the next best wood up from knotty white pine in terms of hardness and cost? Reason is am doing full length mirror frame and the stupid knotty pine i bought keeps cupping twisting you name after i pour boiling water on it and clamp it down and put 25 Poumd dumbells on it. Nothing works!!!!!!! Thank you for nice vidoe

Vor 7 Monate
L P
L P

Mark, great review enjoying your content 👍. I have worked with white oak and poplar. To me poplar is really nice to work with and gel stains work great with it. I’m in SE Florida (Miami) and need to check my lumber store (not da Big Boxes) to see about soft maple and beech, like to give them a try. Thanks for sharing.

Vor 7 Monate
Charles Sciano
Charles Sciano

Thanks for the video Mark. I am brand new to woodworking, these videos are very helpful. So, thanks again.

Vor 7 Monate
Jacob Anderson
Jacob Anderson

You know what's funny? Walnut in my area is about $23 per board foot, and I can order Wenge for about $19 per board foot. Someone explain to me why a endangered Africa Hardwood is cheaper than Walnut

Vor 7 Monate
Darrell Baker
Darrell Baker

Thanks for tips. I find it very hard to get straight boards from home depot or lowes. I did notice that they are not dried out and when you get them home, they tend to start to bow. I built a lumber shed to try and store my lumber for future projects.

Vor 7 Monate
Richard Ayala
Richard Ayala

Red oak best for Bookcases??

Vor 7 Monate
Bill Life
Bill Life

Good video man!!!

Vor 7 Monate
Werner Verrezen
Werner Verrezen

Here in Belgium our choice is pretty much pine and oak. So jealous. ;)

Vor 7 Monate
escorza88
escorza88

Can you get any of this woods at the big box store?

Vor 7 Monate
NinjaxPanda
NinjaxPanda

Intro music is far louder than the actual information section. Otherwise, great content.

Vor 7 Monate
Isabela Ferreira
Isabela Ferreira

Hello, I am very interested in the American wooden construction method. In my country, this construction model is still very incipient, but I believe that it holds great promise for the future, as this method offers numerous advantages.

Vor 7 Monate
pjs-128
pjs-128

When staining and sealing wood a.k.a. black walnut I just made a table top out of do I need to seal with polyurethane the underside also and if I don’t will it crack

Vor 7 Monate
Frank Sulka
Frank Sulka

Incredibly thankful for what you do. I truly enjoy learning from your videos.

Vor 7 Monate
Jeff Normandin
Jeff Normandin

Any thoughts on American Beech? I’ve got a lot on my property that I burn in my wood stove. Could a cut up a log and use it for a bandsaw box?

Vor 7 Monate
Oscar Landicho
Oscar Landicho

On popler what is the best stain color to use to show the character grain of the wood? Thanks

Vor 7 Monate
KathyJ
KathyJ

where do you get all those woods? also Please which one works best for food cutting boards ? THANK YOU LOVED VIDEO

Vor 8 Monate
Mark Hurlock
Mark Hurlock

You forgot #6- Cherry! Easy to work with, and good for projects where a darker tone is desired.

Vor 8 Monate
Bama BEAN
Bama BEAN

Awesome video. Simple to understand and a lot of great information. I’m new to woodworking and subscribed to this channel. Looking forward to more 👍

Vor 8 Monate
Thomas Costello
Thomas Costello

good video Mark. Back in NC now but lived in Paradise Valley yrs ago and managed the bar at Rio Verde, fun times

Vor 8 Monate
Jesse Oaks
Jesse Oaks

It is very difficult to find good hardwoods in my area (Central MO) there are a few places but it has to be ordered. I know I can get it online but would love to see it with my own eyes before I buy it. It is an investment, not just a purchase.

Vor 8 Monate
Ben
Ben

I just started using Alder. I love working with it. I'm using it on my scroll saw. I did find it chips easily. Maybe it was just that piece of wood. Anyway, I'll continue to use it as it sands and finishes beautifully.

Vor 8 Monate
Kalichi Camacho
Kalichi Camacho

Very helpful

Vor 8 Monate
Robert Irwin
Robert Irwin

Ditto what Pingman2 said, really good information without a lot of stuttering around

Vor 8 Monate
versatile duplicity
versatile duplicity

Your website is shit !! Plus nearly nothing is better than pine

Vor 8 Monate
Juggernaut
Juggernaut

Great video

Vor 8 Monate
Chris Francis
Chris Francis

obviously the Big Box is not the best source for these types of woods. What do you recommend as a source?

Vor 8 Monate
Chris Francis
Chris Francis

@Woodworkers Source HAHAHA. I watched this video as it popped up as a related video of another and didn't even look at who the channel owner was. My Dad was definitely right. There is such a thing as a stupid question!

Vor 8 Monate
Woodworkers Source
Woodworkers Source

*clears throat* we recommend Woodworkers Source for these woods👍👍

Vor 8 Monate
Dave Bergeron
Dave Bergeron

In short notes: - Don't buy construction precut wood for furniture. They are wet and will deform over time. Not the same quality either. - Alternatives: 1, Soft Maple: inexpensive, clean, easy to machine, the hardness of walnut, sands quickly, carve and shape well, can die in bold colours, Not hard maple acts differently 2, Poplar: same as soft maple with a few differences, different colour varieties - can be inconsistent, fine-grained can give different finishes, dents easily, can be stained 3, Beech: does not stain well, bit harder than the other 2, machines better than hard maple, 4, Knotty Alder: lots of knots, rustic look 5, white Oak: hard and heavy, white colour, midrange price, good for outdoors, barrels, furniture wood, comes in different cuts.

Vor 8 Monate

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