$100 vs $1,000 vs $7,000 road bike TEST (WHATS THE DIFFERENCE???)

  • Am Vor 6 Monate

    The Vegan CyclistThe Vegan Cyclist

    Dauer: 23:44

    I took a $129 Walmart road bike, and put it through a series of tests against a $1,399 Schwinn Carbon Fastback, and my $7,000 Canyon SLX 9 with Princeton Carbonworks wheels.
    I used power pedals from Assioma so the power was consistent for all of the tests. I wanted to see what the difference was between a Walmart road bike, an entry level road bike, and a full on race machine.
    I talk through the tests and the results but I also go into the overall experience of each bike. Cycling is not just about speed, it's about the whole experience. So does a $7,000 road bike actually make that big of a difference? Watch the video for my thoughts.
    Also, of course there are variables that I cant control for. IM NOT PUBLISHING A PIER REVIEWED PAPER HERE DUDE. This is more for entertainment than actual science. But the bikes have enough of a difference between them that 100% of the time the results will show the same conclusion, just not down to the second.
    TEST RESULTS
    Flat (5.41mi)
    Walmart 16:18
    Schwinn 14:34 (-1:44)
    Canyon 14:01 (-33s / -2:17)
    Car 11:18 (-2:43)
    Rollers (4.7 mi -1,782 ft 2.4%)
    Walmart 15:59
    Schwinn 13:51 (-2:08)
    Canyon 12:41 (-1:10 / -3:18)
    Car 7:33 (-5:08)
    Climb (4.7 mi 3,455 ft 4.2%)
    Walmart 25:03
    Schwinn 23:10 (-1:53)
    Canyon 20:54 ( -2:16 / -4:09 )

    Descent (2.2 mi -1,660 ft 4.3%)
    Walmart 6:34
    Schwinn 6:07 (-27)
    Canyon 5:27 ( -40 / -1:07 )
    Spin to sprint
    Walmart 7:22
    Schwinn 6:32 (-50)
    Canyon 5:12 ( -1:20 / -2:10 )
    Shot climb (0.1 mi 217 ft 9.9%
    Walmart .59
    Schwinn .52 ( -7 )
    Canyon 48 ( -4 / -11 )
    Overal Loop (18.8 mi -)
    Walmart 1:11:14
    Schwinn 1:03:56 ( - 7:18 )
    Canyon 57:58 ( -5:58 / -13:16 )
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brettcorrea77
brettcorrea77

I would have watched but you are a vegan, cant trust you.

Vor 14 Stunden
Matt Thompson
Matt Thompson

but what if you put the same wheels on each bike

Vor Tag
Hamza Elsaid
Hamza Elsaid

Brake levers that doesn't work!!! And then every one shout out "save the environment" adding more weight to the bike that have no sense

Vor 2 Tage
Fernando Barrios
Fernando Barrios

Where is the cool chilli pepper route?

Vor 2 Tage
Dmitrij Vladimirov
Dmitrij Vladimirov

My canyon, my canyon, MY canyon, MY CANYON! Jesus, we get. It's yours. Calm down

Vor 3 Tage
Dark Pluviophile
Dark Pluviophile

The brakes bro.. The brakes!!

Vor 4 Tage
jason fifi
jason fifi

35 lbs?! that's insane!

Vor 5 Tage
Black dragon story
Black dragon story

I am not a racer,I will not have 1000$ saved anytime soon and it is just an insane amount of money to pay for something that I prob wont be using a lot. Meanwhile this dude spent 7k on a bike..... It would be smarter to just buy a 3k 3D printer and print my own bike goddamn.

Vor 5 Tage
NumbersGame
NumbersGame

I just bought a new bike today. Now, we don't have a Walmart in my country, but the price tag was cca 180 $, so I think i qualify as #TeamWalmart :D

Vor 7 Tage
Antreas Konstantinou
Antreas Konstantinou

A 7k dollars bike and no disc brakes?

Vor 8 Tage
Anthony V.
Anthony V.

Thank you to proving that expensive bikes are useless unless your a professional competitor. I will sacrifice ~10 minutes to save ~$6,900 dollars. Since I'm not competing, I get more of a workout because it's more difficult to transfer energy from the body to the bike onto the ground. Edit: No I dont have a walmart bike. I have a used 1993 or 4 diamondback sorrento that I purchased for 70 bucks. 🙃

Vor 8 Tage
Clayton Moorman
Clayton Moorman

17:39 haha

Vor 9 Tage
Honfy Lam
Honfy Lam

I'd imagine that a $400 road bike would be already monumentally better than the $129 bike without having to fork out an extra $1000.

Vor 10 Tage
Mark Stengel
Mark Stengel

Science found eatibg a Standing Rib Roast or a Porterhouse Steak will give you more speed per mile. .02374 per stroke comined with polishing the kaniblic pins help greatly. Of course im kidding. I did enjoy watching your presentation re: 100 vs $$$$ road bikes. Looking at Cannondale or Bianchi but i do have limitations cervical surgery. Wel Made Presentation 🚲👍

Vor 10 Tage
kstiles2177
kstiles2177

One thing about that Walmart bike (I have one): The only thing maybe worse than the brakes on that bike are the tires, and the brakes are really horrible. I swear though that the tires have more rolling resistance than the lugged 26" tires on my mountain bike. They don't look like they would, but the tires really are horrible. I put a set of 700c x 32mm Continental Ultra Sports on it when the originals gave up and gained 8 miles an hour COASTING down one of the local hills. 8 miles an hour, that's an insane amount for a hill that is ~7% grade and a couple of hundred yards long. 1500 miles on it now and still running, but it's used as a daily commuter complete with racks...

Vor 11 Tage
ARNAUD GUIRRIEC
ARNAUD GUIRRIEC

Fucking bullshit this guys is a lier. There is no big difference between top bike and average bike, serious test habe prove it. This guys is arguing about more than 10% loool

Vor 12 Tage
GloomyWolf LTU
GloomyWolf LTU

This guy buys 7,000 dollar bike! Me: Can barely get on a normal bike

Vor 16 Tage
logithss
logithss

When your bike is 20 bucks😥

Vor 16 Tage
Azhel E’laj
Azhel E’laj

White ppl really just be having money to blow lmaooooo shitttt 7000$ on a bike???

Vor 16 Tage
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

If I didn't get my "BEING WHITE" check from the government every month, life would be SO DIFFICULT.

Vor 16 Tage
jeremiahwilliams629
jeremiahwilliams629

Great Schwinn commercial.

Vor 18 Tage
Thomas Rutschke
Thomas Rutschke

Would be interesting to do the test with the same tires (princeton) on all three bikes to see the impact

Vor 18 Tage
Jerome Mitchell
Jerome Mitchell

Wonder how it would ride with the 7k bike drivetrain on the 100 dollar frame?

Vor 18 Tage
Adam Frederick
Adam Frederick

Looking forward to my no name build Taiwan build. Carbon frame and wheels and hydro discs, under $1700

Vor 21 Tag
Ivan Dobric
Ivan Dobric

15 kg road bike wtf my mtb bije isn't that heavy

Vor 21 Tag
Nat King Currie IV
Nat King Currie IV

SUPER STUFF V!!!...Subscribed...

Vor 22 Tage
ABC kirja
ABC kirja

you can get $7k bikes for free bro

Vor 22 Tage
jeremias marengo
jeremias marengo

Love how you organized the data of the test, thanks

Vor 23 Tage
Ross Smith
Ross Smith

So if you get the $100 bike, that will make you a lot fitter quicker. Why. You have to put more effort in to get from point A to point B.

Vor 24 Tage
Ross Smith
Ross Smith

The Vegan Cyclist so what you’re saying is my $300 bike is crap, even though it gets me from point A to point B in probably the same amount of time as your $3000 bike. Don’t write a bike off just because it doesn’t have all of the bells a whistles on it. guaranteed my $300 bike will last a lot longer than yours, and it will still keep me fit

Vor 24 Tage
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

That sounds right, but its not. With proper training tools like a power meter, you can exert the same amount of energy, you just go faster. And you can do more miles and more time because it's more efficient

Vor 24 Tage
Andrew Zhu
Andrew Zhu

No disc breaks?

Vor 24 Tage
asdfkie
asdfkie

Get the best bike from every price bracket otherwise there’s no point comparing lol

Vor 25 Tage
asdfkie
asdfkie

You should have got a $500 Btwin triban 520 and see how close it is to the 1000 one

Vor 25 Tage
Your Mother
Your Mother

Personally, if you're a bigginer, get atlesst a 250$ bike or more. If you bike alot for fun and is one of your hobbies, get a 500$-100$. If you are a proffesional cyclist entering begginers compititions, get a 1000-2000 carbon bike. Or if you are one of the top cyclist s in the world, (or a rich bi**) get a 5000$-10000$ bike. If you are donald trump, hire a proffesional bike carpenter thing (idk what its called) make a bike with the best things :/ idk

Vor 26 Tage
bukkara tsuppa
bukkara tsuppa

Some of the cons of the walmart bike go actually good by me. Perhaps i'm not a road bike fan. I use bicycle for riding around Moscow, where i live. Traffic jams, pedestrian trails, etc. Dunno what i'd be starting with aerodynamics or tiny tires here.

Vor 27 Tage
walkinwithjesus
walkinwithjesus

how can you tell if someone is vegan? You dont have to, THEY will tell you. God the fucking joke is true.

Vor 29 Tage
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

When did I talk about plants in this video?

Vor 28 Tage
Paul Langmead
Paul Langmead

I think your downhill time differences probably have more to do with bearing quality and rolling resistance than aero, especially as your body is 80% of aero and that was constant for your tests. The Walmart bike should have had an advantage here with all the extra weight, so seems the bearings and tyres are coming into play.. Put the Schwinn's wheels on the Walmart bike and see what the difference is...

Vor Monat
john guthmahn
john guthmahn

For every lb saved on the bike that is always an extra 1000 dollars or so. How often have I seen some chubby riding a 7 to 10 thousand dollar bike pretending to be something he is not. It makes sense to make the investment if you are a professional or serious about cycling, but other than that it is a waste of money.

Vor Monat
john guthmahn
john guthmahn

@The Vegan CyclistThose Schwinn bikes are so prevalent that most everyone even the homeless possess a Schwinn.

Vor 29 Tage
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

Agreed. I couldn't believe how much I enjoyed riding the Schwinn. Now I LOVE my canyon but I prefer to ride something I am not so worried about crashing.

Vor Monat
kay poly
kay poly

Nonesense, I have never thumbs down your video before, I had to do it this time though. Never heard so much bullcrap. You know what? that 1k bike and your blind bling 7billion dollar bike is pretty much the same.the only thing you have to do is swap the crappy alloy wheels for some bang for the buck DT-SWISS wheels for a little less than 1k and vuala! and guess what? even if you don't swap it for carbon wheels, I still don't believe there is a 2minute difference between a 1k bike and a 7k bike. Stop it.

Vor Monat
kay poly
kay poly

@The Vegan Cyclist Your Bugatti Veyron is fast but a cent bow 335i with 420hp(chip tuned) or an M3 will smash most cars on the road and guess what? you don't have to pump gas every 12minutes or change a set of tires every other 400km, and if you do, they don't cost a leg and a arm if you know what mean.  Are carbon wheels faster, hell yeah, but I will get the dtswiss ones for below half the price of those 2.5k ones and the performance is pretty much the same if not better with the bombproof dt hubs. ok, it's no longer 1k anymore but 2k+ but hey! I guess so as you get a carbon frame, you're in the right ballpark cos all you gotta do is upgrade as you get more money but, I will never justify spending 7k on a bike. you stop getting performance benefits as soon as you cross that 2k - 2.5k line. I'm taking down the thumbs down by the way.

Vor Monat
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

K. The whole point of this video, and I did say it, is that the 1k bike is the best bang for the buck. The difference between it and my canyon in terms of experience, is nothing. But there is a difference in time but that doesn't mean much to most riders. And everyone keeps saying it's all about the wheels, sure, probably. BUT IF I PUT THEM ON THE SCHWINN THEN ITS NO LONGER A $1K BIKE. So yeah, $2,500 wheels would make it faster. But again, the Schwinn is a great bike and that was the idea.

Vor Monat
David Brittain
David Brittain

Only a complete mug would spend 7000 dollars on a bike! If you are not a pro, or even if you are, you will never, ever gain the benefit of all that extra expenditure. Bike porn for people with too much money to waste I'm afraid.

Vor Monat
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

And that's the point of this video. Showing that the $1,400 bike is the same experience as the canyon. I agree with you and recommend 99% of cyclists run a $2k because that's the sweet spot.

Vor Monat
Grumbel Bumbel
Grumbel Bumbel

I have a giant full aluminium road bike, and compared it to a carbon bike with about the same weight. I picked the aluminium bike, because I HATE to lose power in the carbon. Aluminium might shake you hard, but I'm all about efficiency and the power that I could get on track with the stiffer bike, could be felt immediately. I would never ever get a carbon bike because of this.

Vor Monat
Alphonse Duponey
Alphonse Duponey

This brake levers on the 200 bucks road bike, oh boy, what a shame! And that weight... You should have tested a decent entry-level model aluminium road bike instead: For instance, the Decathlon B'twin that weighs 11,3 kg and is worth €260. This would have been interesting.

Vor Monat
Sterling Witherspoon
Sterling Witherspoon

“The BREAKS” 😅

Vor Monat
Jay Turberville
Jay Turberville

Dude - the WalMart bike does NOT have downtube shifters. Downtube shifters are located ... drum roll ... on the downtube. BTW, I agree with some of the other comments that a LOT of the performance differences between the WalMart bike and the other two on relatively flat or downhill sections is probably due to tires, wheel and hubs. The difference is probably from rolling resistance (cheap tires and maybe lower pressure?) and aerodynamics.

Vor Monat
RyansuBike
RyansuBike

I'd spend $100 on a good vintage Steel bike, spend another $70 on parts and it would be much better than a the walmart bike of course that would take some tools and know how but well worth it.

Vor Monat
Ian Mangham
Ian Mangham

Nice wattage

Vor Monat
Ian Mangham
Ian Mangham

Wow, 19 pounds is light for the 1k

Vor Monat
CycloFeed Ubox
CycloFeed Ubox

Now put the canyon wheels on the Schwinn and go again!

Vor Monat
Cody Slab
Cody Slab

*Next time make sure every bike and rider weighs the same, fuckwit.*

Vor Monat
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

Making sure the bikes weight the same would defeat the whole purpose and the rider is me, it's not different riders... I explained in the video this was a test of the whole package, it's not about isolating the frame for aerodynamics. Ps. Go fuck yourself

Vor Monat
Cody Slab
Cody Slab

*1. My wallet says that a 2 minute difference over 5 miles is insignificant* *2. My wallet says that you were being a pussy on the descend with the walmart bike and that it would take the same time for me and im a fat fuck.* *3. Paying 10 or 100(!) times more for a bicycle for the seconds difference -- you are a fucking tool, you could have a motorcycle for that money, if you want to fucking exercise - a cheap heavy bike is the way to go you fucking pussy hipster.* I am also quite confident you did runs on the cheap bike last so youd have worse performance for it, you fucking shill.

Vor Monat
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

Boy. You are a special kind of stupid.

Vor Monat
Saffin Alimamy
Saffin Alimamy

In my own opinion, if someone wants to cycle, $100 is more than enough, especially if they're not an athlete that goes to cycle races. :) PS, for people who are broke like me :)))

Vor Monat
MattSowi
MattSowi

I'm riding a 35 year old bike and dude much nicer than that crappy Kent even lighter you should try to get a vintage bike or 2 and compare what you get vs a new bike of similar money. So if I spend 300 and get a super nice bike from back in the day how much better is it to a new 300 dollar bike. Or is it better?

Vor Monat
Bluekid
Bluekid

The Kent was a pile of dog crap, owned it for a year then got a TCR now I'm rocking an aero spec. Should have stopped at the TCR the returns got small lol

Vor Monat
Mohammed Al-Mahfoudh
Mohammed Al-Mahfoudh

at 17:38 it suffices that the reflector on the saddle stem for walmart bike faces front/side of the bike instead of back to declare it unsafe :P

Vor Monat
Ghost-Faced Hindu
Ghost-Faced Hindu

I own the green and black Kent, the "Wal-Mart Bike". I love it, it'll need some lighter parts, but it'll do.

Vor Monat
Amfear Liathmor
Amfear Liathmor

This makes me wonder how an early 90s bicycle would compare. I've still got a Vitus 979 with a Sachs Ergopower New Success group set and ITM bars and stem, Rolls saddle and Campagnolo tubular rims, which I haven't used for about 25 years in the loft. I think I must have paid about £250 for the Vitus frame set back then. A blast from the past, with Sean Kelly on his Vitus 979. $7000 is just crazy. https://youtu.be/uqEnvZ1ynng

Vor Monat
quetzal coatl
quetzal coatl

There is no $100 bike, not even Walmart has it

Vor Monat
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

It was $120

Vor Monat
Joe Gatt
Joe Gatt

That mini bike your daughter was playing with at the end is begging for the chain to be tightened :)

Vor Monat
Chase
Chase

Thanks for the vid. Helpful.

Vor Monat
Timothy Lee
Timothy Lee

Thanks for the comparisons. No surprises. When you do your analysis, do it in percentages. Telling us the raw data is almost (not quite) unless. You should know this?

Vor Monat
Sam
Sam

I got mine for £275 and it’s perfect

Vor Monat
Jose
Jose

My bike cost £500 and weighs 11kg it’s pretty solid

Vor Monat
Jose
Jose

Should have been called $100 vs $1400 vs $7000

Vor Monat
Solo Tra la folla
Solo Tra la folla

In the end better buy a good bike, mate,,

Vor Monat
JohnRamirez007
JohnRamirez007

FANTASTIC work! Thank you. Your presentation has answered a lot of questions for me! GREAT WORK

Vor Monat
Iqbol Ash
Iqbol Ash

Thank you for science experiments !

Vor Monat
Ty Wert
Ty Wert

You look malnourished but at least you’re “enlightened”

Vor Monat
The Vegan Cyclist
The Vegan Cyclist

We live in a time where being overweight has become the norm, so anyone not seems unhealthy. But I have had my blood work done and I am all in the green. Check it here > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJR4OmtZOU

Vor Monat
mehdi jbuji
mehdi jbuji

Put playback speed 1.25 thank me later

Vor Monat
John Murray
John Murray

Too many numbers tell us in percentage difference next time - easier to compare and extrapolate. Also do a century test with some beastly climbs and shitty surfaces and tell us about how your body feels at the end on each bike and your mind body and soul too.

Vor Monat
slug cereal
slug cereal

my bike cost 15 bucks and i made it from a frame i found on the side of the road. it moves forward. sure it ways 30 pounds. do i care. no

Vor Monat
E
E

Oh yeah? Well, I raced professionally on that Walmart bike in the Alps. You are just too weak dude!

Vor Monat
Theoretical Cuber
Theoretical Cuber

Bruh

Vor Monat
Joe Colletti
Joe Colletti

Hey, thanks for making this video. Nothing really surprising in there on performance and experience-- marginal gains as you move, big fall off w Walmart. You were surprised the Walmart wasn't faster on the downhill since it was heavy. I'm wondering how much of that was caution? As shitty as those brakes looked, I wouldn't want to go balls out! Would be fun to put Chris Froome on the Walmart and see what he could do on it! You might need to point a gun at him to get him to ride it though....

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Drank der Nachtzicht
Drank der Nachtzicht

Pay to win

Vor Monat
Andrew Mack
Andrew Mack

so on the climb the 7000 dollar bike did it five minutes faster than the 100 dollar bike. 1380 dollars per minute faster ??? get the cheap one every day

Vor Monat
Jesse Shotland
Jesse Shotland

why do you have a setback post with your saddle slammed forward?

Vor Monat
yeral
yeral

I'm having anxiety with these choices.

Vor Monat
Peanut Butter
Peanut Butter

I’m a new bike person who just needs a bike to go a few blocks daily. I got a $100 Walmart bike. Can you talk about what to look out for in terms of safety and how to use the shitty gears and settings? And how do I know when it will fall apart? And how to check if the cheap brakes are any good??? Thanks

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livin' in chains
livin' in chains

Almost 16 kg??? 😲 Wtf

Vor Monat
Timothy Follis
Timothy Follis

Walmart 16 mph avg, Schwinn 17.8 mph and the Canyon 19.6 mph avg for the loop. So roughly a 2 mph bump for each bike.

Vor Monat
Jake Thompson
Jake Thompson

I have the Walmart bike and it is so terrible. Brakes started to fail on me going downhill, almost had to ride out into traffic. Gears constantly get stuck, the seat is horrendous. I’ve never riden road bikes though so I didn’t want to get a very expensive bike.

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John O RA
John O RA

Crazy how much fastet the Canyon is than the schwinn

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Squishy Awesome
Squishy Awesome

No disc brakes?

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